Batman Forever The Arcade Game on MAME

[Anonymous No.4194650]

I've ran into problems with this game. My PC may be powerful enough to run modern games, but when it comes to running a retro game like Batman Forever The Arcade Game on MAME, it runs like shit.

Here are the issues...
>It's laggy as fuck, the frame rate is a nightmare.
>No sound.
>There are glitches with the animation. Isn't Batman suppose to be behind the Batmobile?

Yet I have no issues playing the PS1 version of this game on disc.

Are you telling me that a PC like mine, that can play modern games, can't run Batman Forever The Arcade Game properly? Yet my PS1 can on an actual disc?

PS1 >>>>> PC

[Anonymous No.4194670]

>google Batman Forever arcade MAME
>first page of results gives me "Please note that this game has no sound and is very broken due to bad emulation."
I can't believe you typed out all that shit without even bothering to google.

[Anonymous No.4194686]

>>4194670
What I can't believe is that this game runs better on my PS1 with no issues. So much for the "PC Master Race" movement. Can't get arcade emulation right.

[Anonymous No.4194693]

>>4194686
It's not like the PS1 could emulate this game.
If you want to emulate the PS1 version on your PC you shouldn't have any trouble.

[Anonymous No.4194706]

>>4194693
Fair point, PS1 does emulate well on PC.

[Anonymous No.4194716]

>>4194650
MAME runs most games like shit, nobody is actually surprised about that.

SSF can run many STV games fine, except for two or three which have protection (Radiant Silvergun), or use extra hardware (Batman Forever uses an extra sound chip). And I'm not sure if it can get Bass Fishing running, since it's an STV game that uses a CD drive.

[Anonymous No.4194743]

>>4194716
Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.4194805]

>>4194686
>I can't believe this official port runs fine, but a pirated dump ran through an emulator designed by people who had nothing to do with the original game can't get it right!

[Anonymous No.4194821]

>>4194650
Just play it on a Saturn emulator. The image size is only like, 19 MB, and it runs great even on shit hardware. Not sure if Saturn > PS1, but 2D Saturn ports are usually better.

[Anonymous No.4194824]

>>4194650
you are fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4195104]

>>4194650
ABOUT MAME:

The developers of MAME are autists, and that should never be forgotten. MAME's intended purpose is not get games running and working, it's simply to successfully emulate all elements of the arcade hardware. They use an incredibly complicated, pointless way of getting arcade games to emulate, see the games being playable as a "byproduct of that".

It's the reason why you have separate emulators for Model 2, 3, Naomi, Atomiswave and a bunch of other arcade boards which may never been emulated on mame. All Mamedevs care about is roms being dumped; they don't care if they actually get working on it or not.

How bad is it? Primal Rage 2 was dumped for years, but despite the high demand for being playable Mamedevs wouldn't bother to work on emulation on it. One guy on youtube, called Gruntzilla94, took it into his own hands to get it working. Took the guy three years but he finally did it, mainly by doing "dirty" emulation. Without him, it's possible that we may have never seen the game playable otherwise.

Autism was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.4195564]

>>4195104
The emulation of the original Contra is fucking inaccurate. I reported it around a year ago and they never got around to fixing it. You're actually better off buying the emulated version on PS4.

[Anonymous No.4195572]

>>4194650
why don't you buy the pcb for this game

[Anonymous No.4195723]

>>4194650
They're two completely different games and MAME is the shittiest arcade emulator that exists, it's just that it runs the most games...well, "runs".

I stick with Nebula for everything I can, then Winkawaks if Nebula doesn't work, then Final Burn and if all else fails, then MAME or a console port...you should just stick with the console port.

[Anonymous No.4195731]

>>4194824
this guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.4195732]

>>4194824
OP ON SUICIDE SQUAD

[Anonymous No.4195986]

You have no comprehension of how emulation works, do you?

[Anonymous No.4195996]

>>4195564
>The emulation of the original Contra is fucking inaccurate. I reported it around a year ago and they never got around to fixing it.
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.4196113]

>>4194650
Dumb cunt the hardware is not emulated and emulation is not a port.

>>4194716
>MAME runs most games like shit, nobody is actually surprised about that.
Wrong just 3d games as mame does not utilize the gpu at all and relies 100% on processor.

>>4195996
>What's wrong with it?
I#d like to know this to.

[Anonymous No.4196142]

>>4195104
developers of MAME aren't gods that are magically able to make thousands of games work on their wonderous software - if they haven't bothered to work on the game you want to play since they have better things to do right now, then do it yourself and submit them patches

[Anonymous No.4196349]

>>4194805
>muh emulation
>muh PC can run your consoles/arcade hardware flawlessly
>dur

>>4194821
Good idea and yes Saturn ports of 2D games are superior.

>>4194824
>muh PC Master Race standards are being questioned.
>I must post this "jpg" to defend PC Master Race shit.
>This should teach the consolefag, dur.
Actual hardware > Emulation

>>4195104
True.

>>4195564
It's amazing how well arcade titles perform on PS4, PS3 and Xbox 360. (I assume Xbox One as well, but I don't own one).

>>4195572
Good idea.

>>4195723
Alright, I'll try that.

>>4195732
Nope. It's a cool movie though.

>>4195986
>You have no comprehension of how emulation works, do you?
Obviously you don't understand the point of this thread.

>>4196113
>Being this angry at me pointing out the flaws with emulation.

[Anonymous No.4196460]

>>4195564
>>4195996
>>4196113
Some of enemy behavior during the 3D stages is inaccurate. The rolling mines for example always veer to the right corner when they should be more widespread. Just compare any video of the game being played on real hardware to emulated versions.

Real hardware
https://youtu.be/o9YtlPDsxbg?t=70
https://youtu.be/0UB4SBmt_h4?t=47

Emulated on MAME
https://youtu.be/1U6G1krjI5o?t=71

Emulated on PS4
https://youtu.be/2OYrwL6tdU8?t=195

[Anonymous No.4196463]

>>4196460
Is PS4 emulation really that advanced? I thought PS3 emulation was just starting out.

[Anonymous No.4196482]

>>4196349
>It's amazing how well arcade titles perform on PS4, PS3 and Xbox 360. (I assume Xbox One as well, but I don't own one).
From my understanding, all the Arcade Archives releases of Konami games are handled by M2, who are known for their top-notch emulation.

>>4196463
There are no PS4 emulators on PC if that's what you're asking. I was talking about official emulated release of Contra on PS4.

[Anonymous No.4196498]

this thread needs to be deleted and op needs to off himself

[Anonymous No.4196502]

>>4196113
>Wrong just 3d games as mame does not utilize the gpu at all and relies 100% on processor.

But that would make it potentially 100% accurate for 3d games too, except for the fact that it sucks and can't emulate anything right. fucking Neogeo still has sound bugs.

[Anonymous No.4196550]

>>4196482
Ah. M2 did a fine job then.

>>4196498
>Butt-hurt PC Master Race cuckfirmed

[Anonymous No.4197252]

>>4194824
this guy knows.

[Anonymous No.4197337]

>>4194824
kek OP is a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.4197554]

>>4196550
you sound like an autistic child when you constantly spew that reddit meme. the only one bringing mustard race shit into this is you.

[Anonymous No.4197562]

If any MAME staff is reading this.

Please fix the graphical glitches in "Guardians/Denjin Makai II"

I will suck your dick. I mean it.

[Anonymous No.4197598]

>>4197562
>>4196460
You think putting up bounties will help? I know it's been a thing with RA on Bountysource And I wouldn't mind putting a bit of cash aside to have to get these guys to prioritize some fixes.
>Gradius/Nemesis sound emulation is broken
>NES and GB sound emulation is inaccurate
>Data East's Treasure Island standalone PCB PCB with improved graphics isn't yet playable

[Anonymous No.4197610]

>>4197598
>>NES and GB sound emulation is inaccurate
Oh sure let's waste MAME on emulating the 2 consoles with the most emulators.

[Anonymous No.4197621]

>>4197610
I'm not sure why the hell they decided to merge MAME and MESS together. I like them better when they were separate projects.

[Anonymous No.4198110]

>>4197621
but they are still released as separates if you want them.

[Anonymous No.4198868]

>>4197252
>>4197337
>>4197554
>Samefagging
>Using "autistic" as an insult
>Most likely doesn't know what autistic means
Go suck a dick.

[Anonymous No.4198931]

>>4198868
try harder, kid

[Anonymous No.4198947]

>>4198868
>this mad he didn't google before posting his shitty bait thread

Get fucked.

[Anonymous No.4199082]

>>4198931
>>4198947
>Samefagging again
>Edits screenshot via MS Paint to try and prove himself innocent.
>Still angry at me for making this thread.
Again I say, go suck a dick.

[Anonymous No.4199084]

>>4198947
He's too dumb to use google, you think he's going to do anything but rage?

[Anonymous No.4199086]

>>4199082
In the future, keep track of poster ips so you won't look like a total retard.

[Anonymous No.4200678]

>>4194805
What's wrong with that cat?

[Anonymous No.4202789]

>>4194650
Just tried it. Runs fine, 60FPS. Rubbish game though.
>>4195723
>MAME is the shittiest arcade emulator that
exists
OK kid. It's one of the most versatile and customisable emulators in existance and runs literally thousands of games.

[Anonymous No.4202838]

>>4202789
how's the sound quality?

[Anonymous No.4202868]

>>4197562
I think I heard that this is due to some screwup with the rom dump, and they haven't been able to get hold of another board to dump, it being super rare. Pisses me off too, I didn't even know about the alternate routes when I first played cus the emulation doesnt show them properly.

[Anonymous No.4204604]

>>4202868
I hope somebody finds a good working Batman Forever Arcade board & dumps the rom online. There's no reason this game shouldn't perform well on PC's.

[Anonymous No.4205059]

>>4204604
There is a good dump. MAME is the issue.

[Anonymous No.4205081]

>>4197598
>Gradius/Nemesis sound emulation is broken
>emulation gamers can't even play a 30 year old arcade game with proper sound production
>still cry "just emulate bro"

Emulation kids literally blown the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.4205094]

>>4198110
MameUI gets rid of MESS which is cool, but the official release merges them.

[Anonymous No.4205185]

>>4205059
Ah, okay.