PSX models

[Anonymous No.4140609]

Hey /vr/, so I wanted to buy myself a Playstation 1, not because I want to get into collecting, but because of how much I miss my old games in the very late 90s.

I don't exactly like emulation and the occasional incompatible PS2 that struggles to run some games I am interested in (getting my sources here from Wikipedia).
I've already got a TV, but I am not quite sure which Playstation 1 model I should purchase. While I live in Europe, I noticed that most games on Ebay are from the USA.
Is it viable for a European to buy an NTSC console? And which model is currently considered the best one?

[Anonymous No.4140617]

Get one one with a mod chip or solder yourself and a rgb scart cable (without 60hz is black and white) and original memory cards. The old one scph 1001 or something had digital out and cinch outs, link cable port and parallel port for VCD and cheat modules. Worn drives can be replaced with new ones from ebay.

[Anonymous No.4140635]

SCPH-5xxx or 55xx.

Best DAC, they fixed the texture dithering issue, no fucked up CD drive, no overheating.

[Anonymous No.4140637]

>>4140635
This.

Don't fall for the "Audiophile" SCPH-100x meme. They are utter shit.

[Anonymous No.4140656]

>>4140617
>>4140635

Are there any good retailers or websites that sell modified PS1 models?

I can find a few decently modded PSX consoles, but their versions are unspecified.

[Anonymous No.4140669]

>>4140656
You'll probably pay through the nose tbqh.

An alternative would be to pick up any old gameshark type device and flash it with unirom. A single disc swap required then you're region free forever with no soldering.

[Anonymous No.4140702]

The correct answer is PSone.

[Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO No.4140707]

>>4140635
>>4140637
This or the PSOne.

>>4140702
This is a great alternative, but an SCPH-5xxx or 55xx is preferable in most situations.

[Anonymous No.4140735]

>>4140609
Go for either one of the PS1 that has a serial port on the back, if you want to plug in a Game Shark.

[Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO No.4140745]

>>4140707
Correction: I wouldn't go with an SCPH-5000 since unlike the other 5xxx models, this one is more akin to some of the earlier PlayStation 1 models, down to having a garbage CD drive, overheating issues and FMV skipping problems.
Thankfully, the SCPH-5000 was only released in Japan and the North American version which was the SCPH-5001 was much better in many ways.

The absolute best PlayStation 1 is still the elusive SCPH-5903 which was only released in certain parts of Asia, you will know these if they are white like the PSOne rather than grey like most of the other PlayStation 1 models, it also had the RCA AV out, parallel and link cable ports that the early models had, it also has the "audiophile" sound quality of the earlier PSOnes while having a similar DAC to the SCPH-5xxx models, which are better.
And exclusive to this version, it can play VCDs without any unlicensed third-party attachments, which is just icing on the cake
So, yeah, the SCPH-5903 is the best of both worlds; it has the "audiophile" sound quality of the SCPH-100x as well as the RCA AV, Parallel and Link Cable ports, while having the improvements from the SCPH-5xxx such as the best DAC, the texture dithering issue fix, the better CD drive and also fixing the overheating issue

The only problem is how to find it, it is very hard to find one and it's true luck if you manage to find one, and it is rarely certain if you found the right one

Thankfully, I bought one from this little shop owned by a Filipino immigrant near a restaurant where I went on a date once with my girlfriend, I bought it in great condition from him one day, he said he bought it while he was still in the Philippines.
After I bought it, I got it modded to remove the region lock and to play CD-Rs and it works really great, I also bought RGB SCART cables to use it on my BVM while routing the RCA audio to my 6.1 surround setup, it is now my main PS1.

Not my pic, btw.

[Anonymous No.4140748]

>>4140745
Was that the same Filipino immigrant who sold you that garbage Samsung HDCRT?

[Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO No.4140753]

>>4140748
Yes, he's the same Filipino immigrant.
But I think it's not an HDCRT, thankfully.
And I am planning on buying another Trinitron for my bedroom instead or maybe just buying a Samsung HDTV which can support 240p well in case the Samsung flat panel CRT doesn't cut it.

[Anonymous No.4140775]

>>4140735
This.

[Anonymous No.4140787]

>>4140669
This. Just get a gameshark OP.

[Anonymous No.4140849]

>>4140669
>region free forever
Does it play "backup" games though?

[Anonymous No.4140862]

>>4140635
>>4140745

What about the SCPH-7501? Anything majorly wrong with those?

[Anonymous No.4140873]

If you can't even buy and solder a PlayStation modchip yourself that you can order for $10 and free shipping, you shouldn't be on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.4140882]

>>4140873
Wut
I've thought this was a board to discuss retro games and retro consoles.

[Anonymous No.4140901]

>>4140849
Yes
>>4140862
Sony downgraded the audio DAC and generally cut costs for that revision. It's largely the same as the 5xxx ones though and at least retains the parallel port which was removed from 9xxx and PsOne. It would be my 2nd choice but not a terrible runner-up by any means.

[Anonymous No.4140943]

>>4140901

Nice, it's what i've got, and have had for some time. I'm hoping the PSIO thing will start actually being in stock at some point soon so I can get one of those and use it.

[Anonymous No.4140952]

>>4140862
The 7502 was always a good one for modding, though you can of course play all Playstation titles on any PS3

[Anonymous No.4140971]

>>4140952
But what about the quality?
I've once read that, while the PS3 emulates PS1 games, the PS2 actually has a a PSX included in it.

[Anonymous No.4140972]

>>4140609

>I noticed that most games on Ebay are from the USA.

Are you on ebay.com by any chance?

[Anonymous No.4140976]

>>4140609
Just don't fall for the DAC meme.

[Anonymous No.4141046]

I'd recommend getting the original model the Psone is great looking but the lid for the discs is known to stick as well as the open button play it safe with the Og

[Anonymous No.4141612]

>>4140882
Taste for old electronics goes well with repairing and modding things.

[Anonymous No.4141618]

>>4140971
No, a PSX includes a PS2

[Anonymous No.4141912]

>>4140609
get a ps1 with the serial number <7000

pre 7000s are the good models, pre-5000s are the best. Those you can disc swap or use the media player menu to play imports. Purists believe those to also have the god tier audio. Jury's been out on that one for 25yrs.

7001+'s start to get cheap parts built into them and eventually are 100% region locked without a specific gameshark/action replay CD.

[Anonymous No.4141937]

>>4141618
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_(console)

>The PlayStation (officially abbreviated to PS, and commonly known as the PS1 or PSX) is a home video game console developed and marketed by Sony Computer Entertainment.

[Anonymous No.4142308]

>>4140656
Just buy a modchip, they're like 5 bucks and the ps1 1001 was my first soldering experience and it turned out just fine.

[Anonymous No.4142589]

>>4140952
Basically the 7xxx series of PS1s slightly downgraded the DAC.

It's still using a AKM DAC like the earlier models, but those DACs received different gradings for quality. The earliest models up to and including SCPH-5502 got an "A-grade" DAC while the SCPH-7xxx got an "B-grade" DAC. The difference between the two is fairly minor - it's still AKM, a good brand.

From the SCPH-9xxx and PSOne, Sony basically threw whatever was the cheapest shit they could get their hands on.

There are two main advantages to the SCPH-7xxx. The first is a music visualizer. The second advantage only matters if you are a PAL user - basically the SCPH-7xxx doesn't require a crystal oscillator to output 60hz in color unlike the earlier models, which makes modding a bit easier.

[Anonymous No.4142724]

>>4140745
from what I can tell, the PSOne has the best laser of them all and can have it transferred to earlier models with little to no modding

[Anonymous No.4142732]

>>4141937
>taking the bait

[Anonymous No.4142735]

Thanks everyone, I appreciate your input to this subject.

[Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO No.4142736]

>>4142724
Yeah, I also had a PSOne laser modded into my SCPH-5903.
And then again, I also modded it to remove the region lock and to get it to play burnt games.

[Anonymous No.4142774]

>>4142589
>The second advantage only matters if you are a PAL user - basically the SCPH-7xxx doesn't require a crystal oscillator to output 60hz in color unlike the earlier models, which makes modding a bit easier.

I have a chipped PAL 7xxx model. From what I've gathered, burned NTSC """backups""" will run at their native 60hz, right? What would be the point of modding it to output 60hz (with a crystal oscillator or otherwise)? Would it be so that one could play original PAL releases at 60hz?

[Anonymous No.4142784]

>>4140971
PS3 upscales PS1 games. You can turn it off, but it will look way worse.

But in any case, I've never played a PS1 game on PS3 that didn't work properly. Sony really strived to make it as accurate as possible, to the point where the games retain their original framerate (unlike on a PC emulator where you can improve it).

[Anonymous No.4142848]

>>4142774
>Would it be so that one could play original PAL releases at 60hz?
No, if you want to play original PAL discs forced into 60hz then you'd use a boot disk like Breaker Pro or whatever.

Basically older PS1 PAL console if they are modded for 60hz will display that 60hz picture in black and white (i.e. neither PAL nor NTSC). That's because it generates a PAL clock by dividing the built-in oscillator by a fixed number. When you play a 60hz game the system clock gets divided by a different number, generating a frequency that is neither PAL nor NTSC.

You then have to install a new crystal oscillator that always generates the PAL frequency. So whether the game is 50hz it'll always output PAL (for PAL50 or PAL60).

For SCPH-7xxx I believe it already comes with the oscillator that is always fixed to PAL no matter what. So you're seeing PAL60, not NTSC when you play a 60hz game.

[Anonymous No.4142882]

>>4141937
>not getting the joke
PSX was also a media player that INCLUDED a PS2

because he first used PS1 and then changed to PSX, like he would be talking about the actual PSX meme box instead of the PS1

[Anonymous No.4142935]

>>4142848
Ah, nice. Thanks for clearing that up. So basically my SCPH-7002 already does what it's supposed to.

[Anonymous No.4142942]

>>4142882
It's not a joke. It's a stupid fucking meme.

[Anonymous No.4145145]

>>4142942

[Anonymous No.4145663]

>thread gets massively trimmed
>PSX bullshit is left untouched

GJ

[Anonymous No.4146150]

Alright. Now I have a question:
Can I possibly use the Light Gun with a model that doesn't have the RCA outputs on the back?

[Anonymous No.4146215]

>>4145145
this antiquated meme should be clinically dead by now

[Anonymous No.4146234]

>>4146150
Yes

[Anonymous No.4147162]

>>4146215
As long as babies continue to get mad about it it will continue. And the palpable assmad will continue to give me pleasure.

[Anonymous No.4147781]

>>4141912
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
Later model 5xxx are the best, 7xxx are second best. Audio being god tier was always a meme, the PSX was just a decent CD player back when most cheap consumer CD players were subpar. Any CD player from 2002 would be about the same quality audio-wise. Even then the hardcore audiophiles will tell you that the PSX requires some modification to remove some audio problems due to vibrations. Jury's been out on that one only on gaming forums where people repeat shit they know nothing about.