is there any advantage of owning this if i already own a ps2 and ps3?

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Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:28:55 2017 No.4138917 [Reply] [Original]

is there any advantage of owning this if i already own a ps2 and ps3?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:32:31 2017 No.4138926 So you can play backup and import games

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:33:46 2017 No.4138932

PS3 can't do 240p, so if you're on a CRT the games will look like blurry ass. I also don't think it's 100% compatible with all games. PS2 can do 240p, and if you're murrican, you can just use component cables instead of RGB which is typically a lot cheaper.

Basically no, unless you want to hear that sweet sweet intro sound and want longer loading times. An argument could be made for PSIO as well, if that's what you're into.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:34:06 2017 No.4138935 >>4138917 The boot screen.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:36:01 2017 No.4138942

>>4138917
If you're an audiophile, the SCPH-1001 has amazing sound. Keep it as a cd player.

For games? Depends how anal you are.
>PS3 not the best emulation, slight input lag
>PS2 shit picture quality
If you don't really care about that stuff, then no.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:37:16 2017 No.4138945 >>4138942 >If you're an audiophile, the SCPH-1001 has amazing sound. Keep it as a cd player. Circa 1995.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:38:11 2017 No.4138948 >>4138942 how is the ps2 picture bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:41:36 2017 No.4138957 >>4138942 dont the ps2 slims use ps1 emulation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:47:31 2017 No.4138973 >>4138948 Unless you're playing through component or rgb euro scart, it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:49:15 2017 No.4138976 >>4138973 How is a PS2 connected via S-Video worse than a PS1 connected with S-Video?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:04:14 2017 No.4139005 >>4138917 I don't believe you can play the multiplayer components of PS1 games on PS2/PS3 if they require a link cable

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:15:28 2017 No.4139027 >>4138917 I hear a few games have compatibility issues on later consoles, so it might be good to have a ps1 around. as in random crashes and other weird behaviour.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:18:05 2017 No.4139032 >>4138917 The original PS1 model with the serial port on the back is still useful for your Game Shark. I used it to beat Batman Forever The Arcade Game. I couldn't beat that game without the Game Shark, I'm unable to use the Game Shark on a PS2 or PS3.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:29:06 2017 No.4139057 File: 96 KB, 602x618, ps1_dithering.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:01:20 2017 No.4139149 >>4139057 Yes well anyone with half a braincell already knows to stay well the fuck away from SCPH-100x models.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:03:06 2017 No.4139154 >>4139057 >>4139149 That's why you get 5500 model instead. Same DAC, new GPU, old faults fixed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:06:08 2017 No.4139164 >>4139154 Yeah I know. It's the all-round best revision.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:08:07 2017 No.4139172 Literally everything plays PS1 games, unless you need the serial port or are very very finicky about accuracy I don't see why I'd have one still hooked up. I threw my 3 consoles into a box many years ago and never had the need to hook them up again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:51:25 2017 No.4139265 >>4138973 well that's irrelevant since you can buy high quality or shit cables for both systems. >>4138957 apparently, but it works pretty well

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:28:31 2017 No.4141093 Bragging rights?

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:31:32 2017 No.4141102

>>4141093
About one of the most common, cheapest consoles ever?

I own one of these "audiophile" models I bought in 1996. It's a japanese model and has the smaller pad that was only released in Japan. I don't use it anymore because the lens died, back in the day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 20:54:06 2017 No.4141964 you could mod it and mess around with the cool error screens

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 20:58:26 2017 No.4141969

>>4138917
>is there any advantage of owning this if i already own a ps2 and ps3?

The PS2 laser tends to stop reading CDs (and PS2 games on CDs, or "blue-backed" discs) eventually. They're just not calibrated that well. So I wouldn't depend on a PS2 for regular access to my PS1 library.

Can't really comment on the quality of PS1 gaming on a PS3, but considering you can find PS1s dirt cheap these days, you might as well make the investment.

If I had to think of any advantage, I guess owning a PS1 makes it easier to play imports and backups. You can either chip it or use a swap CD, neither method being expensive. This is more difficult to do with a PS3.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 04:15:06 2017 No.4142605

How do I into disc swapping?
I've got a PS2 which I can swap discs on. I've switched to using a HDD for PS2 games, but I've got nothing to play PS1 games.
As I understand it, swapping PS1 games only works if the game you swap from has a larger table of contents than the game you are swapping to. Won't this cause issues with games that use a lot of CD audio (since that uses a different TOC layout?) What would be a good cheap game with a large TOC?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 04:23:23 2017 No.4142617 I'm not tech-savvy, but I remember growing up my ps1 was a lot more reliable than my ps2 I'd get the red screen if I so much as looked at my ps2 funny while my ps1 seemed indestructible

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 05:08:37 2017 No.4142656 >>4139057 Does this happen in other games too? Because I have a 1001 and never seen this kind of thing

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 05:49:05 2017 No.4142691 [DELETED]

>>4142656
It should happen in just about every game, just more noticeable in some games than others.

The reason for it is that the PS1's GPU in older models does texture modulation with vertex colors (e.g. Gouraud shading) with 5 bits per color, while later models of the GPU do it with 8 bits per color. The loss in precision from doing 5 bit modulation causes "jumps" in the color transition causing texture banding.

It will only affect textures getting modulation. Won't affect Gouraud shading when used without textures. Also the problem isn't really noticable with bright colors, only darker ones. So even though Spyro is a heavy user of texturesd with gouraud modulated colors, you're unlikely to see an issue since that game uses bright colors. Tomb Raider uses darker ones so it's clearer there.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 05:50:36 2017 No.4142694
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>>4142656
It should happen in just about every game, just more noticeable in some games than others.

The reason for it is that the PS1's GPU in older models does texture modulation with vertex colors (e.g. Gouraud shading) with 5 bits per color, while later models of the GPU do it with 8 bits per color. The loss in precision from doing 5 bit modulation causes "jumps" in the color transition causing texture banding.

It will only affect textures getting modulation. Won't affect Gouraud shading when used without textures. Also the problem isn't really noticable with bright colors, only darker ones. So even though Spyro is a heavy user of texturesd with gouraud modulated colors, you're unlikely to see an issue since that game uses bright colors. Tomb Raider uses darker ones so it's clearer there.

Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Mon Jul 24 06:43:59 2017 No.4142743
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>>4138942
>>4138945
>>4139057
>>4139149
>>4139154
The SCPH-5903 is the best one, bar none.
They look like SCPH-1001 models but have whiter colors more akin to the PSOne models.

It has the new GPU, same DAC and fixes in the 5500 models and the "audiophile" sound quality, RCA AV, Parallel and Link Cable ports of the earlier consoles; truly the best of both worlds.
And it can play VCDs without modifications, to boot.

Just mod it with a PSOne laser and maybe a modchip to remove the region lock and also add the ability to play burnt games and you have the best PlayStation 1 experience.

The only problem is how to find an SCPH-5903, since they were only released in certain parts of Asia, and that they are ridiculously rare, even in said parts of Asia.
Looking it up on eBay gives you zero results most of the time, but when they come up, they are more or less the same price as most PS1 consoles.
I was very lucky when I found it on this Filipino immigrant's little shop near this fancy restaurant, and I bought it for very cheap, and it was in a very great condition, to boot.

Also, they only play Japanese games without modifications.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:11:35 2017 No.4142773
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>>4142743
VCD playback and RCA ports are fucking worthless but even if you valued them you could just get pic related which works with 5xxx and 7xxx revisions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:15:31 2017 No.4142779 >>4142743 I mean, I'd understand even wanting to watch VHSs for that warm fuzzy feel, but VCDs? It's like watching sub-240p youtube or worse.

Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Mon Jul 24 07:19:32 2017 No.4142783

>>4142773
>>4142779
I just said that VCD playback is just some nice icing on top of a very delicious cake and isn't the main draw for me.

It's the fact that it combines everything good with the 5xxx models and the 1xxx models which makes this version the best.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:24:22 2017 No.4142789 >>4138926 Nope, got a Breaker Pro for that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:15:49 2017 No.4142830 >>4142773 RCA gives better audio

>>	Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Mon Jul 24 08:17:08 2017 No.4142831 >>4142830 This.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 11:37:40 2017 No.4143126
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>>4142783
But there's literally nothing good about the 100x.

>>4142830
>>4142831
That has been proven many times to be the opposite of truth unless you remove the shitty capacitors and op-amps in the output stage. The multi-av audio out is superior unless you fancy doing audiophool mods.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 11:49:58 2017 No.4143169 >>4143126 I don't hear any difference, even when there is no sound playing and I put my reciever on max there is no difference compared to multi-av audio

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 11:57:16 2017 No.4143186

>>4143169
If you can't hear a difference...good for you. I can assure you there is one though and it's not in the RCA's favour.

The point is that there is zero point in preferring a 100x over 500x, 550x or even 750x. It has no advantages and a myriad of problems (shit laser module and proximity to PSU, 5-bit textures vs 8-bit, "audiophile" price gouging).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 12:56:30 2017 No.4143297 File: 17 KB, 207x253, 14c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4143186

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:14:46 2017 No.4143341 what's the consensus on 900x models

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:18:41 2017 No.4143347 >>4143341 Shit. All of the downsides of a PSone with none of the benefits

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:19:49 2017 No.4143348 >>4143297 http://dogbreath.de/PS1/output/output.html http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/31123-playstation-cd-player.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:46:20 2017 No.4143391 >>4143348 All those are from audiophiles

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:48:52 2017 No.4143397 >>4143347 What are the downsides? it's the only model I own and I wanna mod a ps1 but if I'm gonna go that far I want at least a good model

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:50:06 2017 No.4143402

>>4143391
Okay, well assume (like you're going to anyhow) that the outputs are identical quality. You still have all the other drawbacks of the 100x to contend with.

In the end I don't give a monkey's what you use but don't come crying here when it craps out on you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:52:09 2017 No.4143407 >>4143397 No parallel port for Gamesharks etc (no-solder modchip if you flash it with unirom) Lower quality audio DAC Slightly softer video output

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 08:36:15 2017 No.4145404 >>4138973 >not using component What kind of fuckwad would ever do that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 11:54:06 2017 No.4145652 >>4145404 One with a display that accepts RGsB.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 11:59:53 2017 No.4145661 my modded ps2 doesn't play warez ps1 games. also ps1 supports original non-analog controllers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 23:48:20 2017 No.4147007 File: 35 KB, 800x553, ps1pad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4145661 >also ps1 supports original non-analog controllers You can use your PS1 controllers on the PS2. I even use my OG japanese tiny controller on the PS2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 04:38:52 2017 No.4147359 File: 291 KB, 1920x1080, prebeach.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4138917 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbiI0Xkt2AQ

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 04:44:06 2017 No.4147362 >>4145661 >also ps1 supports original non-analog controllers I use my digital PS1 controllers on my PS2 all the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 11:44:30 2017 No.4147851 File: 553 KB, 486x289, 8o4htiy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4147007 rare/10

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 15:27:06 2017 No.4148194 >>4138942 STOP THIS MEME THERE IS NO LITERAL PROOF

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 15:31:50 2017 No.4148204 >>4138942 >>4148194 KEEP THIS MEME GOING ALL THE RETARDS ARE SCRABBLING FOR SHITTY 100X CONSOLES AND KEEPING MY BELOVED AND FAR SUPERIOR 5XXX CHEAP AND READILY AVAILABLE

Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Wed Jul 26 20:25:47 2017 No.4148871
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>>4148194
>>4148204
>not going for an SCPH-5903 when you come across one
>not having the audio quality of the SCPH-100X while having all of the pros of the 5XXX models
SCPH-5903 master race, laddies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:46:55 2017 No.4148939 >>4138917 How does a SCPH-7501 compare to the SCPH-5XXX series?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 23:10:09 2017 No.4149270 File: 95 KB, 620x620, ed8115ba594772a06ee4c774314930c2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4148204 >>4148871 WHERES THE PROOF?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 23:13:34 2017 No.4149273 >>4138917 I have psx scph-9002 what are the opinions on that one?

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 23:34:19 2017 No.4149306
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>>4148871
5xxx has exactly the same audio quality as the 1xxx anyhow owing to its identical DAC.

Good work overpaying for that 5903 Swiftboy. Hope you enjoy MPEG-1 movies with hardcoded subs which come on two discs...

Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Thu Jul 27 04:01:00 2017 No.4149736
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>>4149306
I bought it for cheap, I find that it's often pretty cheap when it comes up online.
Especially since the Filipino immigrant I bought this from didn't know it's value and he sold it to me for very cheap.

For me, the main draw is the RCA ports that the 1xxx models have, not watching VCDs, since my Sega Saturn does a pretty good job for that.
And the RCA ports offer superior audio quality, plus it makes it easier for me to connect to my surround setup.

Also, I have many childhood VCDs which were imported from Malaysia, Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore and the Philippines, but they're currently in a box in the attic.
I boxed them up when I moved away from my parents.

The only VCD I have outside of the attic right now is my Hong Kong VCD of Laputa: Castle in the Sky, which I only bought so I have a VCD in my Studio Ghibli collection, and also because Laputa: Castle in the Sky is my favorite Ghibli film alongside Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind.
I may import the Hong Kong dual-audio re-release VCD of Howl's Moving Castle just to experience how VCD handles multiple audio tracks, as well as the other Studio Ghibli VCDs.
And maybe also The Force Awakens since I am also an avid Star Wars collector, and finally, (500) Days of Summer since maybe it's an open-matte version unlike the DVD/Blu-ray which is in CinemaScope, by the way, there is an open-matte version of (500) Days of Summer but it's only being shown on TV.
But maybe, they will be the only pieces of my VCD collection if I don't open the ones in my attic.

Also, some VCDs, mostly the ones from the Philippines, have no hardsubs, so maybe I'll buy (500) Days of Summer and The Force Awakens there instead when I go there, but I will still have to buy the Ghibli VCDs in Hong Kong.

And by the way, I already have both Blu-rays and DVDs for all of the Ghibli films.
I also have the 3D Collector's Edition Blu-ray of The Force Awakens, as well as a Blu-ray and a DVD of (500) Days of Summer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:51:28 2017 No.4150432 >>4149736 >the RCA ports offer superior audio quality NO. THEY. DO. NOT I honestly don't know how I can put it in terms that your peanut-sized brain can comprehend. THEY. DO. NOT

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:56:02 2017 No.4150441

I have a PS1 and a PS2. I never considered the idea of using my PS2 for PS1 games but as of late, not owning a CD burner and having the mcboot thing there anyways, I considered the possibility of playing ps1 vidcons over that.

I have 2 problems though

1. I heard that PS2 image quality is somewhat worse, even with the same cables. Is that true? I actually never tried it and I'm a lazy fuck to even compare them. I -do- have RGB SCART.

2. That said, is there any device in the market that will somehow adapt a PS3 controller to PS2/PS1? I just don't have any official gamepads and I got so used to the sixaxis that I have my doubts about them originals having the same kind of d-pad and such.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 18:24:44 2017 No.4151004 >>4150432 Because some audiophile sites say so? The ones that in first place claim that the 100x series are the greatest CD players because of their DACs?

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 18:32:28 2017 No.4151013

>>4150441

>1. I heard that PS2 image quality is somewhat worse, even with the same cables. Is that true? I actually never tried it and I'm a lazy fuck to even compare them. I -do- have RGB SCART.

So I recently played through SotN, started on my 100x, then the unit died, finished on my PS2 Phat. Honestly,I couldn't see any difference in video quality connected to my PVM via RGB.

>>	Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Thu Jul 27 20:09:50 2017 No.4151160 >>4150441 I'm not sure if you can use DualShock 3 controllers but the Component video is apparently very noisy. RGB SCART is more or less identical, though.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 20:16:18 2017 No.4151172

>>4150441
You need to google your No1 question.

People will toss opinions at you. The fact is the ps2 consoles have varying internals but ultimately come out better than ps1 in raw output capability. The issue is how the internals handle said ps1 before tossing it out.

So many asshurt individuals have their opinions about ps1/2/3 on their respective hardware vs their successors console/s, but there are facts out there to be had, and you should find them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 20:44:12 2017 No.4151210 File: 288 KB, 300x281, 1356691079746.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >People itt still passing around the PS1 audiophile memes

Anonymous Fri Jul 28 04:56:27 2017 No.4151971

>>4151172
>>4151160
>>4151013
Many thanks, I think I will both do a bit of research and try it out anyways. Doubt there's any difference between running PS1 games the freemcboot way and the legit way through discs in regards to image quality.

Given that apparently there's a mod for the PS3 controller on PS1/2 but it's certainly more expensive than just getting an official dual shock 1/2, I might go for that instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 05:13:28 2017 No.4151983 File: 27 KB, 256x255, Monkey_Hero_Cover_6355.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You can only play this on a psx

Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Fri Jul 28 05:45:57 2017 No.4152021

>>4151971
Apparently, there are some glitches when playing PSOne games on the PS2 which aren't present when played on a PS1.
Some games which have this are Symphony of the Night and Final Fantasy V.
Take note that these glitches are minor most of the time like in Symphony of the Night but there are some cases where the glitches are worse like in Final Fantasy V.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 05:52:53 2017 No.4152025 >>4152021 I see. I plan to play SoTN, but I'm not too bothered about FFV particularly on PS1. Maybe FFIX, though I doubt the method I'm going to attempt to use is compatible with multi disc games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 05:54:14 2017 No.4152028 >>4152025 you wont notice anyway. SoTN is broken as fuck but that's part of the charm.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 06:01:50 2017 No.4152039 File: 918 KB, 1024x576, Yorick+The+Destroyer.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4152028 Well, at least it's not the PSP version through an emulator

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:14:31 2017 No.4153703 just bought a scph 7501, how did i do bros?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:15:15 2017 No.4153704 >>4153703 You fell for the meme, congraturations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:19:35 2017 No.4153715 >>4153704 that bad huh. at least i it was cheap...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:19:36 2017 No.4153716 >>4138917 There are a few games that can have problems running on either the ps2 or ps3. Try looking up a compatibility list, I don't think any of the games though are ones you'll be upset about losing them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:20:13 2017 No.4153718 >>4152039 That was so cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:23:40 2017 No.4153723 >>4153704 why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:30:12 2017 No.4153730 File: 1.02 MB, 2856x1904, post-1754-1169311964.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Never really used this, thoughts on the smoothening the ps2 does for ps1 games? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZFyW48d2A0

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:33:35 2017 No.4153736 >>4153730 it makes me wish the guys behind bleemcast somehow managed to finish what they started.

Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:44:12 2017 No.4153762

The original PS1 is aesthetic as fuck and has that sweet boot up sound. Beyond that there's no real reason to keep it around besides the handful of games that don't work on PS2 and 3, and I don't think there's any overlap between those two lists anyways besides FFV (which is a shit port to begin with).

>>4153730

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:45:59 2017 No.4153767 >>4153730 Tried it with my recent playthrough of MGS1 and the difference was minuscule enough that it didn't really matter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 11:36:47 2017 No.4154539 >>4153730 I like it but it breaks some games like FF7.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 15:04:37 2017 No.4154964 >>4151004 I already posted links to the relevant schematics. It doesn't take an "audiophile" to figure out that passing signal through crappy op-amps and capacitors degrades it vs a straight feed to the output.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 15:06:06 2017 No.4154972 >>4138917 Depends on if the consoles you already own are backwards compatible

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 18:09:02 2017 No.4155438 >>4138917 No

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 18:10:46 2017 No.4155442 >>4138926 Nah, you can softmod any PS2 with a memory card and play games off of a USB thumbdrive. It even works on PS2's that have destroyed lasers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 18:34:18 2017 No.4155475 >>4154964 But is the difference in sound hearable atleast?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 18:43:18 2017 No.4155494 >>4138917 Probably some obscure compatibility issue

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 18:48:00 2017 No.4155509 >>4155475 Yes Now you can call me an audiophile (in an insulting context of course)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 18:50:06 2017 No.4155516 >>4155442 But does it work with PS1 games?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 18:51:12 2017 No.4155520 >>4155509 How does it compare to playing PS1 games on PS2?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 10:00:55 2017 No.4156735 >>4155516 Nope, you have to use swap tricks again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 11:45:15 2017 No.4156864 >>4156735 What about in a debugging station (TEST PS2)? Does FMCB work with those just the same as a retail console?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:26:52 2017 No.4157253 is ps2 slim bc with ps1 emulation based? because i swear ps1 games on the ps2 slim look darker to me. i have the 9000 series btw

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