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Can we have an Umihara Kawase thread?

In particular, I am interested in any and all information regarding Den-Sen, in case there happens to be anything out there aside from that one video on the demo disc.

I also hear that the original prototype of Umihara Kawase was for Sharp X68K. I wonder if it's even remotely possible to get our hands on such a thing nowadays.

>> No.4133413
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Something neat:

This guy's project to make stages from Shun in real life using cardboard and such.

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Something else neat:

This other guy that made some rather high-quality cut out drawings of Umi.

>> No.4133512

>>4133412
Are there any... uhm... l-lewds?

>> No.4133784
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>>4133512
Depends, how lewd are we talking here?

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>>4133512
Here's an official lewd from the Umihara Kawase artbook

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>>4133787
It also has some high quality non-lewd art

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>>4133787
Which artbook? I know there are some 'perfect guides' and stuff with a bit of artwork, but I didn't know about an actual artbook.

For official stuff, there is a nude hotspring scene in the ending of Umihara Kawase Shun, though it's ridiculously tiny when it plays in-game. I'd love a higher quality version of this video.

>> No.4133802

>>4133413
Ooooohhhh! That's so cool.

>> No.4133812

>>4133798
It's called the "Umihara Kawase Almost Official Book", and it's by the game's character designer, Toshinobu Kondo. There was another one released for Umihara Kawase Shun, but I don't have it.

>> No.4133817

>>4133413
Nice. Fuck that jump to the second exit though, i've only ever made it once.

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>>4133812
Toshinobu Kondo is such a cool guy.

One time I ended up at the Studio Saizensen office, and had a chance to talk to him. As soon as I said my name, he recognized me for an incredibly embarrassing email I had written back when I was first learning Japanese saying how much of a fan I was.

At the end, I asked him for an autograph, and he pulled out a pen and drew an amazing little sketch of Umihara for me.

>> No.4133834

>>4133828
Oh that's so cool.

>> No.4133871

>>4133787
Now I'm imagining what people would say if this was posted anonymously on /ic/.

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>>4133871
You can't win em all.

>> No.4133895

>>4133871
>le LOOMIS!! meme

>> No.4134613

>>4133828
Fucking boss

>> No.4134678

>>4133412
Are you the anon who requested some Den-sen fanart some time ago?
Someday I'll deliver it man, I promise.

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>>4134678
That's almost definitely me, yep.

>> No.4135402

How can i play shun? I only have a psp and vita. I have a very bad almost literally broken laptop from 2011 that i'd rather not have to use

>> No.4135403

>>4135402
Do you have a Japanese account? You can get 2nd edition from PSN, works perfectly on both PSP and vita. But vita's d-pad is so good that that's definitely the way to go.

Do not play the PSP game.

>> No.4135409

>>4135403
ah ps1 psn classics didnt even cross my mind. I do have a jp account, thanks anon

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rom hacking scene is stagnant

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Testing to see if I'm able to post.

>> No.4137123

If anyone here is smart enough to figure out how to get the alternate exit in Field 15 on the SFC version, can you please share your secret? There's a few videos on youtube but I can't reproduce the method.

>> No.4137134

>>4133828
That is amazing. What else did he say?

>> No.4137163

>>4137123
You need to swing to the right and reduce the rope length, it's kind of hard to explain. You have to release the rope or you won't be able to grab the ledge.
The other way to do it is to run on the platform on the right and gradually reduce the rope length, so that when you'll jump, you'll bounce back to the left. But with this method, you won't be able to take the shortcut on Field 24.

>> No.4137890

>>4133828
Cool, nice to know such a nice guy made one of my favorite fap materials

>> No.4138092

Why are her tits so big? She could squirt milk out of her titties like a Super Soaker and she would not run out for a long time.

>> No.4138591

>>4137134
Some really cool stuff that I unfortunately should not share with /vr/.

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>>4138092
Oh come on, they're not THAT big.

>> No.4140798

So, is the first PS1 game the place to start ?

>> No.4141072

There are just 3 games which all play similarly. They're all on steam as well now iirc. For Shun (PSX), I believe the DS/PC port has the most content.

>> No.4141318

>>4137123
You need to latch onto the upper corner of the wall, then carefully lenthen the rope until you can just barely touch the ground below you. The trick is getting just the right rope length; You should have a section of red, a section of white, a section of red, and then about four pixels of white.

Hop to the right, and run against the rope. Go as far right as you possibly can, until the rope is completely taut (this should take a few seconds), then jump to the left (do not release the rope at any point).

I can give you a replay file, if you have the Steam version.

>> No.4141394

>>4138592

With boobs that big, why doesn't she slap the monsters around with them?

>> No.4141423

such an amazing game

>> No.4141448

>>4141394
In woman vs fish hand to hand combat women always lose, ask the fisherman's wife.

>> No.4141574

>>4141318
Do you reel in the rope when you jump?

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>>4141318
>>4141574
Turns out you don't. Thanks for the strategy, here's a pic from my artbook.

>> No.4141701

>>4138591
Disappointing but understandable. Thanks anyway.

>> No.4142085

>>4141072
People praise the DS port for some reason, but don't play this version. They fucked up the music and the watercolor graphics were considerably scaled down.

The PS games (either first or second edition, both are cool for their own reasons) or the steam port would be the way to go.

>> No.4142173

>>4142085
I played the DS port to 100% completion. It's nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be.

>> No.4142180

>>4142173
Let me rephrase a bit nicer.

It's still an amazing game, and it's definitely a playable version of it that is infinitely better than the PSP port.

But I prefer the PS1 and PC versions are better for the reasons I mentioned.

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>>4142085
I like the DS version because it has the most content of any Shun port and the bottom screen maps allows you to more accurately do long distance jumps since you're able to see the whole stage at once. Pic unrelated but it's pretty cute

>> No.4142704

>>4142224
>it has the most content of any Shun port
Apart from the low-res art (which is completely superfluous), it has nothing over the Steam port.

>the bottom screen map
Is for fucking casuals.

>> No.4142713

>>4142085
I don't understand its praise either. It doesn't help that every DS model (bar the original, the one with horrific viewing angles) has a craptastic D-pad.

>> No.4143214

>>4142713
>d-pad
That's a great point, too. I should have mentioned I was playing on an original 3ds, which has one of the worst d-pads I've ever used. That sure didn't help the experience at all.

>> No.4143350

>>4142224
Anon, I get that Umihara's charm is in a big part herself but the game is pretty good.
I also like to play games for the cute girls but the gameplay is first so I make sure to check all the versions to find the "best" one regardless of the extras which are (unsurprisingly given their name) completely irrelevant
Best Umihara experience would be the PSN/Steam version plus guidebook, having them both in a single pack but having the quality drop to a 30% isn't too good of a deal but still pretty convenient if that's the only way somebody can afford the game.

>> No.4144013

>>4142180
When I played it, the PC version didn't exist. It has some additional fields, so I think it's worth considering over PSX second edition. I'm sure the PC version is ideal these days.

>> No.4144064

Will there ever be enough people able to finish survival mode on sayonara to fill the steam rankings? Even this thread has more unique posters than the leader boards have players.

Actually, I would guess most of those 15 or so players are already in this thread.

>> No.4144154

>>4144064
The original game doesn't have this problem even though it sold less copies.

>> No.4144341

>>4144064
For a specific ending? I tried it for the first time and got like 12 minutes, which put me in the 90s for Ending 0.

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>>4142085
You can scale it to the original ratio in options although you'll see just a tiny portion of the screen.

I don't really have any issue with the DS port, after all it's the one cartridge game I've kept in my 3DS for the last 4 years.

>> No.4144531

>>4144387
>3DS
Double the shit scaling. Christ.

>> No.4144583

>>4144064
I did it on the 3DS/Vita versions. Not gonna buy the game a third time.

>> No.4144968

>>4144387
My wife is so cute.

>> No.4145027

Whats the best way to play the snes version if i dont have the cart? I was thinking wii snes9x on a crt. I do also have sayonara umihara kawase+ on vita which also includes the og game. But not sure if that was just a quick hack job or if its a good port.

>> No.4145104

All I think of when I play Umihara Kawase is that I wish the physics were more like that of Worms Armageddon's ninja rope. Hell I may even make WA maps out of Umihara levels if I find a nice map collecion of the game.

>> No.4145116

>>4145027
Vita port is a great version of the game, and is arguably better than the snes original. More accurate timer and the only version with a practice feature that lets you play fields you've reached in the main game.

>> No.4145119

>>4145104
>I wish one of the most unique games of all time was more like this other game

>> No.4145125

So what exactly was the deal behind the development of this game? They wanted to make a Bionic Commando-style game, but didn't have the cash to spare, so they photosourced images of aquatic animals for enemies and photos for the backgrounds, then added a tomboy one of the devs made in his personal sketches as the MC for the hell of it?

>> No.4145489

>>4145125
The game is nothing like bionic commando though. According to interviews though, the idea from the beginning was that they wanted to make something unique. They spent a whole lot of time writing background details for the character so they could make somebody relatable, and made sure that it would be reflected subtly in the character design itself, so that there wouldn't be any written story for the character.

>> No.4145580

>>4145125
The creator said that Bionic Commando wasn't an inspiration at all.

>> No.4145616

>>4145027
The SNES version has slowdown, play the steam/Vita ports instead (Steam has workshop support for replays and online leaderboards if you're into that stuff)

>> No.4147042

>>4145027
I'm not aware of any slowdowns on the original SFC version, but I recommend the DS versions that include both SNES and PS1 games, that's how I played and still play these games.

>> No.4147070

>>4147042
The SNES version has tons of slowdown. The first example that comes to mind is Field 42 because it throws your timing off (video: https://youtu.be/jK63629dc9k ), but it happens anywhere when your fishing line is "too long".

>> No.4147090

Anyone remembers dedicated Kawase imageboard?

>> No.4147187

>>4147042
>but I recommend the DS version that includes both SNES and PS1 games
Yes, and stop recommending it. Just because you have some weird fetish for the port doesn't make it the definitive way to play.

>> No.4147265

>>4147042
>I'm not aware of any slowdowns on the original SFC version
Aren't you acknowledging that you aren't qualified to recommend versions of the game with that phrase alone?

How can you play Umihara SFC and not run into its slowdowns? Even by the fourth stage the framerate will drop pretty considerably.

>> No.4147269

So what am I supposed to do in field 24 in Shun anyway? Perhaps I'm just blind but I can't see a way to open that locked door.

>> No.4147272

>>4145104
Worms Armageddon rope physics are casual tier for russians to jerk off to their autistic roper schemes

Liero/Umihara did it right

>> No.4147278

>>4147269
The squid don't kill you, so either catch them all or let them run into you.