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Is using widescreen hacks in 3D games wrong?

>> No.4133267

>>4133263
based
which emulator?

>> No.4133270

>>4133267
It's a feature in the GlideN64 plugin, so you can use any emulator that has support for that plugin.

>> No.4133273

>>4133267
>>4133270

Just keep in mind that it doesn't work with every game. From my testing it works with Mario 64 and Zelda games, but doesn't work well with Banjo and doesn't work at all with DK 64

>> No.4133274

it's not wrong, but if you have issues like objects popping into the 4:3 region or UI elements being drawn that are supposed to be hidden off-screen then it's really uncomfy.

>> No.4133283

>>4133274

>objects popping into the 4:3 region

This is the only issue I have with this widescreen hack. But it doesn't bother me too much either. I don't expect it to work perfectly.

>> No.4133293

>>4133273
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't DK64 have a standard option of playing the game in widescreen?

>> No.4133334

>>4133263
Yes, only idiots would want to use a widescreen hack. Why is it so fucking difficult to just play at the original intended aspect ratio?

>> No.4133338

>>4133334
Say that in the Doom general

>> No.4133342

>>4133334
For the same reason people use upscaling and perspective correction with PSX games.

>> No.4133343

>>4133342
So retardation then, thanks for confirming

>> No.4133357

>>4133283
This would actually be a deal breaker;

That said I'm sure I've seen Dolphin allow for widescreen hacks that don't have pop-in

>> No.4133358

>>4133343
fuck having black bars each side of your screen when you don't have to

>> No.4133361

>>4133358
This is the worst form of normalfag autism. You probably watch movies cropped to fullscreen

>> No.4133381

>>4133361
Fullscreen is 4:3 ya fucktard

>> No.4133386

I just usually stretch them.
I dont give a shit about aspect ratios

>> No.4133387

>>4133361
enjoy your tunnel vision

>> No.4133391

>>4133381
I was talking about saying "muh black bars" like it meant something at all. And "fullscreen" crops wider movies to 16:9

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4133392

Why is this non retro garbage up?

Nobody cares about your fan homage "updated" game hack. This wont play on retro hardware and has nothing to do with the original game being emulated.

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>>4133391
No. Fullscreen crops widescreen movies to 4:3. Look up fullscreen dvds, they where phased out years ago.

>> No.4133414

>>4133403
It depends on what was the original aspect ratio you retard

>> No.4133418

so much retardation in this thread. /vr/ seems to be worse than other boards for this kind of thing

>> No.4133419

>>4133334
This. Widescreen is a designated shitting ratio anyway.

>> No.4133421

>>4133414
Nope. Its 4:3 it was phased out of DVDs years ago.

>> No.4133424

>>4133414
You reek of summer.
>>4133403
>>4133381
/vr/ kids don't even know how DVDs were made these day.s my god. Good work confusing them.

>> No.4133432

>>4133421
If you have a 16:9 TV it crops it to fill the TV. Have you ever used one before?

>> No.4133436

>>4133358
>black bars
jesus fucking christ this is the absolute dumbest shit. black bars are just empty space, functionally no different to the edges of the screen. how much of a pitiful brainlet do you have to be to not be able to just not pay attention to them?

>> No.4133437

>>4133432
What?. if you buy a fullscreen dvd and use it on a 16:9 tv, you'll have black bars on either side, hence why your post was retarded.

>> No.4133440

>>4133381
"Fullscreen" does not mean "4:3" you imbecile. It means "taking up the entirety of the screen".

>> No.4133442

>>4133436
sure, you can ignore them, but if you have the OPTION to fill that space with a greater FOV, then why the fuck not?

>> No.4133443

>>4133440
Fullscreen in the context of movies is 4:3. always has been, kiddo.
>>4133432
The TV does. The aspect ratio is still 4:3. You really never used a DVD before have you?
>>4133267
>based
>>4133361
>normalfag autism
>>4133436
>brainlet

Summer is real.

>> No.4133449

>>4133443
>Fullscreen in the context of movies is 4:3. always has been, kiddo.
No, what you're talking about is an inaccurate marketing term used by some DVD publishers before widescreen TVs were the norm. It doesn't actually hold any meaning and is not used in the film industry. Please shut the fuck up, you have no idea what you are talking about.

>> No.4133452

>>4133442
>then why the fuck not?
Because it's not how the game was FUCKING DESIGNED TO BE SEEN

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>>4133440
>taking up the entirety of the screen
Yes, on a 4:3 screen. Not on a 16:9 as widescreen is not always 16:9.

Just google this shit, tons of examples. Fullscreen is a term used when widescreen tvs where new to help people know it wasnt widescreen. When widescreen tvs got more popular the phased out fullscreen. Jesus nerd, you sat on the Internet you can look this shit up.

>> No.4133458

>>4133449
If I buy a fullscreen movie that means it's 4:3. Laserdisc, vhs, beta, and DVD. You're a fucking idiot. Seriously how young are you?

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>>4133449
>is not used in the film industry.
>marketing term used by some DVD publishers before widescreen
You a fucking idiot son.

>> No.4133464

>>4133462
>posts a DVD from before widescreen TVs were the norm
Thanks for proving my point.

>> No.4133469

If you watch a 16:9 movie on a 16:9 TV it's going to be fullscreen

If you watch a 4:3 movie on a 4:3 TV it's going to be fullscreen

Retard

>> No.4133470

>>4133464
Find me a single full screen dvd or blu ray thats in 16:9

>> No.4133472

>>4133263
A lot of 3D games have widescreen support in them to begin with, so as long as the hack isn't causing graphical errors and you like how it works, there's nothing wrong with it.

>> No.4133474

>>4133469
>If you watch a 16:9 movie on a 16:9 TV it's going to be fullscreen
No thats called widescreen

>> No.4133475

>>4133454
>>4133462
>double click on 16:9 Youtube video
>"you are now in fullscreen mode"
Whoa...

>> No.4133476

>>4133470
You're not going to find any because they stopped using that term when they realized how retarded it was

>> No.4133478

>>4133263
Yes, because it implies that you're not using a CRT.

>> No.4133479

>>4133475
We're talking about DVD's not your tablet baby youtuber.
>>4133469
Incorrect, child.

>> No.4133480

>>4133474
Now you're mixing up everything. If you watch a widescreen movie on a widescreen TV it's going to be fullscreen

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4133484

>>4133480
>If you watch a widescreen movie on a widescreen TV it's going to be fullscreen
Really, how young are you? Widescreen doesn't mean fullscreen on 16:9 either, kid.

>> No.4133485

>>4133479
>We're talking about DVD's not your tablet baby youtuber.
No, YOU are talking about an arbitrary marketing term used in the early 00s that has absolutely no meaning and has since been discarded. Furthermore, it has no actual relevance to the topic of this thread, so please stop now.

>> No.4133487

>>4133452
all it's doing is slightly reducing the amount of tedious camera moving you're doing

>> No.4133489

>>4133474
are you fucking serious?

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4133490

>>4133485
So because you don't care about old movies and only your dank youtube and tablet that means we should throw a standard out? Don't think so, kiddo. Don't think so one fucking bit.

Just because you consider old movies to be old and shitty doesn't mean we're all underage retards. It is still and will remain a relevant standard. Many times the only way to watch a movie is a fullscreen dvd/vhs rip.

>> No.4133494

>>4133480
Not even, most widecreen films aint even in 16:9, hell batman dark knight changes ratios through out of the film, all of which are widecreen. If there's a fullscreen edition of the film, its all in 4:3. That button on youtube uses the same word but isnt what the term was used for when marketing films when we where tranitioning between aspect ratio standards of televisions

>> No.4133495

>>4133484
"Fullscreen" like the name implies mean that the screen is full. You can have any kind of aspect ratio fullscreen.

The "fullscreen" DVD examples you're providing are aimed at retards, people retarded enough to prefer watching zoomed-in cropped versions of movies because "muh black bars". They used a retarded definition of the word "fullscreen" so that the retards target audiance can understand, and stopped using it when 4:3 TVs stopped being the norm and it was no longer needee. "Fullscreen" isn't the same thing as "4:3".

>> No.4133497

>>4133495
>"Fullscreen" like the name implies mean that the screen is full. You can have any kind of aspect ratio fullscreen.
Not in the context we're talking about.

>> No.4133503

>>4133495
Just because the term isnt great doesnt stop it being correct and the original poster who used it, used it incorrectly.

>> No.4133504

>>4133443
>Summer is real.
So is your virginity.

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4133507

>>4133504
SICK

>> No.4133518

>>4133494
I was simplifying for "Mr Fullscreen"

>>4133497
You mean the context of the retards who prefers cropped movies and misunderstand the meaning of words? sure

>>4133503
Yeah, "fullscreen" for those DVD examples above is correct sure, but that doesn't make of fullscreen a synonym of 4:3.

>> No.4133519

>>4133518
>You mean the context of the retards who prefers cropped movies and misunderstand the meaning of words? sure
The context of people born before 1990.

>> No.4133520

>>4133476
No they stopped using that term when 4:3 was phased out

>> No.4133530

>>4133518
>but that doesn't make of fullscreen a synonym of 4:3.
Does when you are talking films.

>> No.4133573

>>4133274
>>4133283
You just gotta find the right GameShark code to fix the widescreen culling (Super Mario 64's is 8127D55E 4740 8137A456 46C0, for instance).

>> No.4133593

>ITT: one DVD autist tries to impose his words of vidya kiddos
And the whole thread goes to shit

>> No.4133623

>>4133593
it's truly a sight to behold

>> No.4133628

Fun fact : many n64 games have a widescreen option, and surround sound

>> No.4133678

>>4133628
i recall goldeneye had it

>> No.4133685

>>4133263
What do you mean by wrong?
Wrong as in not as the developers intended or wrong as in it would be considered cheating depending on the game you play?

I don't see the point in doing so. The hud will stay centered so that will annoy me forever.

Do whatever you feel like doing, anon.

>> No.4133696

>>4133293
You're correct

>> No.4133781

You see more than what was intended by the developers, the challenge was built with a certain area of visibility, you are cheating by seeing ahead. It's not acceptable.

>> No.4133794

>>4133263
Only if it's horizontal plus and not just anamorphic widescreen like shitty movies.

>> No.4133890

>>4133573
Oh, shit ,thanks. I was lucky to actually notice this post in the middle of all the shit. Thanks again, this will be useful.

>> No.4134246

>>4133573
Hey, you got the code for OOT too in any chance?

>> No.4134251

>>4133593
Just admit you're wrong next time. Nothing wrong with it. Now being proven wrong and still having an argument cause you are a stubborn chilld, is actually autism.

>> No.4134940

>>4134251
How am I wrong? That was my first post ITT and it was very accurate. The only flaw is I may have underestimated your autism.

>> No.4134978

I don't mind it in something like GZDoom but I tend to stay away from it in emulated console games. The fact that you have to deal with either a centered or stretched HUD is a dealbreaker for me.