Can we have a nice mid-late 90s PC gaming/hardware appreciation thread?

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Anonymous Wed Jul 19 13:22:15 2017 No.4131709 [Reply] [Original]

Can we have a nice mid-late 90s PC gaming/hardware appreciation thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 19 22:08:48 2017 No.4132762 >>4131709 No

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 19 22:09:46 2017 No.4132764 >>4131709 fuck you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 19 22:21:05 2017 No.4132786 >>4132762 >>4132764 >still bumps

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 19 23:39:38 2017 No.4132914 Why so much PC hate?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 19 23:59:14 2017 No.4132948 >>4132914 I dunno. Why are people being so mean? I don't have anything to contribute OP, but I support your thread and I hope it turns out nice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 00:13:04 2017 No.4132970 File: 70 KB, 600x428, milg4m_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Matrox doesn't get enough love in retro circles. Really made some of the best cards. My opinion the best of that decade with the g400 Max.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 00:14:52 2017 No.4132973 File: 541 KB, 1000x750, IMG_0010dn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4131709 Bumping with my 486

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 00:26:51 2017 No.4132990 >>4132970 It was always shit for glide, OpenGL and directx, just shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 00:31:18 2017 No.4132995 >>4132990 How was it shit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 01:15:08 2017 No.4133053 File: 752 KB, 5184x3360, 12-25-2009_017.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4131709 Me and my bro playing some Master System around 96ish. Our lovely beast 486 in the background.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 02:59:58 2017 No.4133173 >>4133053 you guys look zombified kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 03:14:56 2017 No.4133192 >>4132973 dude that is glorious

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 03:28:10 2017 No.4133212 >>4133192 Thanks! I'm planning on replacing the Creative speakers with monitor mounted ones though. Only because space restrictions. Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 09:40:59 2017 No.4133602 >>4132762 >>4132764 salty

Anonymous Thu Jul 20 09:43:20 2017 No.4133607
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>>4132970
Man Matrox was god-like in 2D. Crisp, rich output.
And g400 was a decent performer. Not the voodoo3 3k tier but still. Oh, and first consumer card with EMBM.
>>4132973
>>4133053
Sweet rigs bros.

Also, topic related question. Is there any way to pair Vortex2 card with ISA-sound card? Is there some kind of manual?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 09:47:00 2017 No.4133610 >>4133607 >Not the voodoo3 3k tier but still. It's above Voodoo 3.

Anonymous Thu Jul 20 09:52:53 2017 No.4133620

>>4133607
>Also, topic related question. Is there any way to pair Vortex2 card with ISA-sound card? Is there some kind of manual?
Under DOS?
What's the other card?

You configure the ISA card, either by it's PnP utility or jumpers to one address and the Vortex 2 via DOS drivers to another.
It's as simple as you would install both cards individually, in the end just be sure they aren't on the same addresses (IRQ, I/O, etc).

Then it's just either changing the setup for a game to one(or even both, i.e. FM on one card, MIDI on other.) or for older games the BLASTER environment .

If we are talking Win9x, then it should be even simpler, for Windows applications, Windows itself should properly configure both cards and you can either select between them in the sound control panel or if the program/game supports, in it's own settings, unless you still want proper DOS support, then you need to do the DOS driver part I just told you also.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 11:24:12 2017 No.4133758 File: 111 KB, 1042x785, computerroom2001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4131709 our computer room circa 2001, hardware is 1998 ish

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 20 14:18:42 2017 No.4134037 File: 1.43 MB, 2560x1440, 20170708_204550.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My old Compaq with a Pentium II, running Windows 98.

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 01:09:51 2017 No.4135334

>>4133771
>Under DOS?
Mainly DOS, but running some games in Win9x/Me would be also nice.
>What's the other card?
AWE64 Value
>You configure the ISA card, either by it's PnP utility or jumpers to one address and the Vortex 2 via DOS drivers to another.
And what about Vortex Sound Blaster emulation thingy? Should I somehow disable it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 01:24:52 2017 No.4135357 >>4131709 i like to get a mid late pc laptop so can run old late 90s game like duke nukem and doom, any suggestion?

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 01:48:16 2017 No.4135385

>>4135334
>And what about Vortex Sound Blaster emulation thingy? Should I somehow disable it?
You can use them on different addresses, then it won't matter.

Wait, do you just want to use the AWE64 for DOS and the Vortex for Windows?
Then there's no problem, just don't load the DOS drivers with the Vortex and load the AWE drivers for DOS just like you would by default.

Else if you wish to use both cards at once, just install both drivers for DOS and select with the game's setup or BLASTER environment between them.
For Windows programs you already can switch with the control panel between them (or the game if it supports) when you have both cards in and Windows has drivers for them both installed.

It's not rocket science, have as many sound cards as you want, only restriction being that they don't use the same addresses. (In DOS, for cards that use software initialization, you can have several configured to the same addresses as well, just have the drivers initialized via script instead at startup.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 01:49:24 2017 No.4135387 File: 384 KB, 743x740, lifebookB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4135357 LifeBook

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:06:08 2017 No.4135408 >>4135387 ok cool looks nice i have a look on ebay

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:15:24 2017 No.4135421
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>>4135408
It's nice indeed.
I like it because, it's small, but still has a proper keyboard, fast enough (mine is a 300MHz Celeron with 64MB RAM) to handle any DOS game, has a good LCD panel (looks shit on the picture) and a fully Sound Blaster compatible sound card with internal stereo speakers.

The battery cells can be replaced, I also have a CF (more battery life and great speed boost) card in mine for the hard drive, the somewhat old battery still lasts over 40 minutes playing Doom.
It also has two USB ports and I have a USB WiFi stick on one port inside mine because the free space replacing the hard drive with a CF card provided.

It also has a touchscreen that works inside Windows only and the huge nipple pointer is a great mouse replacement.

Dock also comes in handy for connecting to serial and parallel port, VGA monitor, floppy drive, PS/2 mouse/keyboard.
PCMCIA slot that also works with WiFi and external CD-ROM drives.

So yeah, for a DOS gaming laptop, it's my favorite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:22:27 2017 No.4135431 >>4135421 whats the model?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:28:00 2017 No.4135442 >>4135431 B142

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:32:47 2017 No.4135449 >>4135442 you dont know were i can buy one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:37:52 2017 No.4135456 >>4135449 Nope, sorry. Unless you live in 2001.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:40:46 2017 No.4135457 >>4135456 damn and i was just there too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:46:28 2017 No.4135460 >>4135457 There are other models too that are internally and externally similar, just lacking the touchscreen.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 02:51:18 2017 No.4135470 >>4135460 i dont really car about a touch screen

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 08:56:05 2017 No.4135890 >>4135385 You are awesome, anon. Many thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 16:21:54 2017 No.4136671 >>4133771 I will always remember that guy who got mad when we made this joke in highschool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 19:22:24 2017 No.4137081 >>4133607 >Man Matrox was god-like in 2D. Crisp, rich output. This. The RAMDAC on their cards is ace. I don't think anyone had a sharper VGA output than Matrox.

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 19:36:50 2017 No.4137107
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This is the model my family had in 99. Much civ 2, sims, sim city 2000, harry potter sorcerers stone, and later on age of empires 2 was played on this thing. Lots of napster downloads too. That tiny 8gb hard drive was just about packed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 19:48:04 2017 No.4137129 >>4137107 >Dat fuckin Gateway tower They have a shitty plastic power button that breaks super-easy. Used to get calls about them all the time. I'd bet you can still call in to this day and get a free replacement part.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 20:35:07 2017 No.4137202 How do you guys feel about using a more modern CRT with an older system? I feel like it's probably too hard to find a real nice period correct CRT that still works, but I do have nicer modern CRTs from like 2004.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:24:59 2017 No.4137373 >>4137202 I like smaller 15" CRT screens with analog picture control knobs for older machines.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:27:12 2017 No.4137378 >>4131709 Anyone having hard time finding reasonably priced CRT monitors that aren't broken/garbage?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:36:59 2017 No.4137393 >>4137378 Not really, recently I've gotten a few old ones and even passed some offers for newer professional CRTs that I already have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:49:04 2017 No.4137812 >>4132970 I've got a Millennium in my DOS box right now. Love that card. It's also an amazing card for Win3.1. I'd like to get the 4MB expansion board for it but holy fuck those prices.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:27:08 2017 No.4137856 >>4137812 >g400 >for DOS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:40:49 2017 No.4137863 >>4137856 He's not talking about a g400, young one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:40:57 2017 No.4137864 >>4137856 The original. As in G-nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:56:48 2017 No.4137879 >>4137864 >G-nothing not even g-spot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:59:55 2017 No.4137889 >>4137879 Well the card would certainly tickle mine if I had one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 04:04:18 2017 No.4137893 >>4137889 kek

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 04:45:07 2017 No.4137940

>>4131709
I've installed Win98 on hp nc6000 and i was surprised how bad compatibility was when compared to e.g. properly configured pcem emulator.
Seems like mobile Pentium and some poor dx7 ati card was just too much, although maybe just gpu drivers lacked. I was still able to play some 3D games so it was worth it, now i know how stupid i was for giving away old hardware...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:14:59 2017 No.4137986 >>4137940 What did you expect? Windows 98 was super seated several times already when that laptop came out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:17:55 2017 No.4137992 What are some good 2D side-scrollers/platformers for DOS/Win9x?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:21:07 2017 No.4137996 File: 459 KB, 1000x750, IMG_0006jjr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4137992 Jazz Jackrabbit is one of them for sure

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:42:39 2017 No.4138082 >>4137992 Apogee had several good ones. Duke Nukem was a damn fine side scrolling action game series before it became the meme spitting shit it was after 3D

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:49:19 2017 No.4138089

I've been lugging around my AST-86 for decades now. It's down in the basement. Don't even know if it works anymore. I'm afraid to see, I would be heart broken if it's dead.

That thing didnt come with a soundcard or CD-Rom drive. 2MB of RAM. upgraded to 8MB.

When we bought the CD-Rom it came with a Lucasarts pack with Loom and Monkey Island.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:59:03 2017 No.4138101 >>4137986 >super seated Phoneposter pls go

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:00:55 2017 No.4138104 >>4138089 >When we bought the CD-Rom it came with a Lucasarts pack with Loom and Monkey Island. Hardware promo games are never this good anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:05:25 2017 No.4138109 >>4138101 Not a phoneposter, just an ESL idiot. superseded*

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:04:07 2017 No.4139975 >>4133053 are you sure thats not your mom

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:09:47 2017 No.4140587 File: 1.23 MB, 1920x1080, elsa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Picked this up at local flea market. How fucked I am?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:19:19 2017 No.4140602 >>4140587 >3.5/4 PCB

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:09:04 2017 No.4140650 >>4140587 geforce 256 sdr, if you just have to run the OG geforce. But other then thats its a pretty useless card

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 10:37:26 2017 No.4140769 >>4131709 Maybe

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 11:19:35 2017 No.4140795 >>4133212 Im more of a fan of having separated speakers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 11:23:28 2017 No.4140801 >>4140587 I love hoarding these, dont care if theyre powerful or not. Stash them away in case you need a spare part for when youre old, thats what I do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 13:20:11 2017 No.4140960 >>4140801 I got a crate full of AGP cards, another one full of PCI and ISA ones, that's just graphics cards

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:20:15 2017 No.4141074

>>4140960
That sounds awesome. I have invested some hundred euros in hard-plastic boxes of all sizes and labeled them so I can store everything in categories too. Have one for GPUs but its around 20, 25 cards and mostly AGP, I had to put them in individual bags because I found a lone capacitor that broke off from I wonder which board.

Also I had a crate choke-full of IDE cables, they wouldve lasted me a lifetime but I think the guys that helped me move when I closed down shop stole it (along with a whole p4 PC with my best AGP card in it). I was so proud of my IDE box I found it with unsold/broken stock my supplier gave me to throw away. The p4 they stole was a beast too, heaviest case I had.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:30:09 2017 No.4141096

>>4141074
Yeah, I should do that too, the cards are just laid on top of each other in a box.

Mine are all in anti static bags too, I never planned to gather so much of them, they just piled up until one day there where shitloads.
Then I have a pile of hard drives, IDE, SCSI, SATA, just laid on top of each other in a corner. A crate with IDE and SCSI CD/DVD R/RW drives and another box with floppy drives, 3.5" and 5.25".
Also a small cupboard with all kinds of other cards, from 8-bit ISA floppy controllers to PCI and PCIe WiFi and ethernet cards, with all kinds of shit in the middle like TV tuner cards, etc.

I never asked for this.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:32:12 2017 No.4141104

>>4141096
Let's not forget the box of memories.
From single DIP chips to SIMMs, DIMMs up to DDR3.
All shapes and sizes.

Most aren't even in anti static bags because there where thrown there without thinking.
I have sorted through them and tested some rarer ones, like 64/128MB SIMMs and put them at least in bags.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:44:33 2017 No.4141164 File: 14 KB, 350x221, IMG_2151.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My first PC, bought just after I left home in 1999, was a Packard Bell Club like pic related. 64mb RAM, 6gb hard drive, integrated graphics. Still managed Flight Sim 2000 though.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 22:43:08 2017 No.4142134
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>>4137107
My grandpa had a similar one.
>>4141164
I remember Packard Bell had a bad reputation but my other grandpa had one that we played on frequently. Think it was a Pentium MMX.

My old laptop has a Pentium II 366 MHz and a fairly pathetic ATI chip built in. It does have DOS sound compatibility in 98, but it it has XP installed atm. In Windows 98, I typically lose the sound blaster after entering/exiting games a few times and have to exit to DOS or restart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 02:18:40 2017 No.4142457 >>4141164 >was a Packard Bell Club like pic related Is this the one with built-in Voodoo3 chip? Also, fucking love that mid-late 90s blobby styling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 04:54:41 2017 No.4142639 File: 27 KB, 400x361, xb830005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just noticed that some OEMs folded IDE cables like a fucking paper. Is there any guide for this kind of cable management?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 06:02:47 2017 No.4142706 >>4137856 And the G400 also has drivers for Win3.1 and tools for DOS. Certainly not the best DOS card, but far from the worst.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 06:04:37 2017 No.4142709 >>4140587 Elsa, nice. The "empty" area is for a flatpanel daughterboard. If you are lucky, you can find one and use DFP/DVI.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 06:10:53 2017 No.4142719

>>4142639
If you have a cable like that and try to straighten it, you have a good chance of snapping the internal wiring. Same goes for if you try and force a straight cable into that shape. The copper is usually thin spun fibers and pliable, but after 15 years it becomes brittle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:39:23 2017 No.4142797 File: 19 KB, 576x312, roundata.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4142639 Just get this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:42:16 2017 No.4142801 >>4133602 gay af

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 09:23:19 2017 No.4142915 >>4142639 >>4142719 Heat it beforehand. Start bending it over something not just folding it in your hands. 40-pin cables ain't gonna snap shit, 80-pin could.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 12:27:10 2017 No.4143243 >>4137992 Bio Menace

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 12:34:05 2017 No.4143252

>>4137992
Jazz Jackrabbit 2, the first one requires a patch to run on anything faster than 200 MHz because of a bug in the Turbo Pascal compiler dealing with timed loops.

>>4135421
I miss small laptops. I would love to get an 11.6" laptop with integrated graphics good enough to play the latest Battlefield (on my laptop I have to scale down the resolution 50% on 1366x768). Of course most /vr/ Windows games will run fine on any netbook.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 12:42:06 2017 No.4143267

>>4142134
Windows 98SE is going back on it. I haven't tried Steam yet but I doubt it will work. Almost all web browsers don't work without SSE2 processor support. It does run pretty well with XP but honestly this machine is only good for DOS games. If anyone needs help getting sound working on their machines, I might know how because it took me a few years, and I finally realized that the 2000/XP drivers actually work under 98 (WDM-based) and support sound in DOS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:38:17 2017 No.4143713 File: 427 KB, 1322x950, 1499718591480.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4131709 Go to >>>/g/61540079 >>>/vr/ hates PCs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:47:04 2017 No.4143727 >>4143713 is that a dissapearance of haruhi suzumiya poster

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:13:34 2017 No.4145024 >>4143713 And /g/ is full of /pol/ bullshit, also hate vidya-related stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:28:18 2017 No.4145036 Probably going to be throwing away a bunch of late 80s early 90s hardware in the coming weeks. What sort of things are worth keeping? Pretty sure I want to trash my old beige CRTs. I have much nicer (but newer) CRT monitors.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:12:10 2017 No.4145089
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>>4145036
>Probably going to be throwing away a bunch of late 80s early 90s hardware in the coming weeks.
>Pretty sure I want to trash my old beige CRTs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:12:54 2017 No.4145092 >>4145036 Donate them. Don't throw them away.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:22:35 2017 No.4145110 >>4145024 >/pol/ bullshit >hate vidya-related stuff you're talking about /retro/ not some GPU thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:42:16 2017 No.4145140 >>4145092 I don't want some stinky fat neckbeard to have them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:43:48 2017 No.4145143 File: 63 KB, 960x540, compaq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] one of my "luggables" running windows 95 with LCD screen

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:50:06 2017 No.4145149 >>4145143 Really cool anon

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:51:54 2017 No.4145152
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Posted this on GTA and vintage photo thread, now posting it here because it's related. It's my little brother, me, and my dad in his home office somewhere in the late 90s. Brother is playing GTA1. Sadly I can't remember the specs, but I think it was considered high-end at the time because my older brothers played all the latest games on it.
Dad's office/computer room had all kinds of computers, mostly ancient ones that ran on MsDOS.

Dad died about month ago. I will always remember how me and my brothers played computer games in his office room all day every day. Sorry for ruining it with censors, I don't think it would be appropriate to upload recognizable pictures of my family.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:55:05 2017 No.4145157 >>4143713 Elite: Dangerous having shallower gameplay and less content than the original Elite is not quite the same thing as being retro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:55:11 2017 No.4145158 File: 2.06 MB, 8320x1184, pwLvkag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4145149 thanks. heres about half of the other crap I have

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:02:00 2017 No.4145168 >>4145158 Kek, it's you! How's it going? Is that a up to date picture?

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:04:35 2017 No.4145170
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>>4145152
>Dad died about month ago. I will always remember how me and my brothers played computer games in his office room all day every day. Sorry for ruining it with censors, I don't think it would be appropriate to upload recognizable pictures of my family.
>initializing hugs
It's okay anon, we're here for you!
So sad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:07:35 2017 No.4145173 File: 121 KB, 960x960, suuc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4145168 nah its pretty old, dont have an up to date one yet heres more of the compaq for now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:17:30 2017 No.4145180 File: 1.99 MB, 2000x1500, IMG_0002jz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4145173 >dat gravis gamepad kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:30:33 2017 No.4145186 >>4145180 yep found it at a thrift store. never knew there was a joystick that went in the Dpad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:34:08 2017 No.4145192 >>4145186 Same here, I've seen it with the joystick before though but mostly when you find them these days it's broken off or missing. Not the strongest thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:41:41 2017 No.4145201 >>4145152 Nice memories. I used to play the same with my younger brother, we'd alternate between GTA, heroes of might and magic 3, sango fighter and Pokemon on the no$gmb emulator

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:43:08 2017 No.4145202 >>4145192 They were like this even new. Basically they were one-time use. The instant you lost eye contact with it after removing it from the controller it quantum tunneled to the same dimension your socks go to when they disappear from the dryer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:49:15 2017 No.4145207 >>4145202 That's when I keep mine in a faraday cage when I take it off. It seems to disable or at least suppress it's interdimensional teleportation abilities.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:54:36 2017 No.4145213
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Here is something pretty weird I found today. old fight stick that has an adapter on it to plug into a super nintendo, and it works great like that. However the default plug is a female gameport connector, so if I got a gender change adapter I could technically use this on old pcs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:57:30 2017 No.4145214 >>4145213 Fucking ace

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:03:45 2017 No.4145218 >>4145157 Now that's what I call pink tainted nostalgia googles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:09:59 2017 No.4145225 File: 21 KB, 640x400, where are the accept and decline buttons.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4145157 >>4145218 I don't know about 1984 but it's certainly shallower than Frontier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 08:40:46 2017 No.4145408 >>4143713 comfy, they actually do talk about games >>4145024 >also hate vidya-related stuff. doesn't look like it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:42:29 2017 No.4145712 >>4145143 Beautiful machine! Specs? >>4145036 >Pretty sure I want to trash my old beige CRTs Good luck getting the trash people to take them.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:56:39 2017 No.4145738

>>4145408
>also hate vidya-related stuff.
>doesn't look like it

A few years ago the threads were pretty autistic. I used to post with a tripcode and my green spraypainted Athlon machine. The OP had a long list of "acceptable" and "not tolerated" items. It was terrible. That guy eventually moved to /vr/ making an late 70s- early 90s computing general with the same pasta and eventually abandoned it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:56:53 2017 No.4145739

>>4145036
>Pretty sure I want to trash my old beige CRTs. I have much nicer (but newer) CRT monitors.
If they have analog controls or still a nice picture, you'd be a retard to trash them.

Older Trinitron tube or even shadow mask tube CRTs are great, specially smaller 13/14/15" ones, I also have several new 19"+ professional Trinitron tubed CRTs from different vendors, great for things like late 90's early 2000's gaming but useless with something like a 486/Amiga and older where the output resolution is low and looks shit on a big display that delivers a lot of detail. Specially the analog controls are a must when your computer and monitor change modes with different frequencies all the time and the picture misalignes, far easier and faster to calibrate.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:24:50 2017 No.4145761
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I want to play the original Diablo on Linux. Setting it up in WINE is a pain in the ass, and it doesn't work well in an XP Virtualbox. Should I try VMWare, or bite the bullet and go with Win95 in DOSBox or PCem? No, I'm not going to dualboot and reboot into Windoze just to play it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:32:45 2017 No.4145774 >>4145761 PCem is great for 9x virtualization. VBox is garbage for retro OSes and officially does not support them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:35:56 2017 No.4145781 >>4145761 Wine. Literally the easiest method and Diablo works fine with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:37:39 2017 No.4145783 >>4145738 Nobody liked those thread, nobody even counts them as real /retro/ threads. The proper /retro/ threads where always just containment threads and not generals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:38:49 2017 No.4145785 >>4145738 >That guy eventually moved to /vr/ making an late 70s- early 90s computing general with the same pasta and eventually abandoned it. They became even more autistic when it was on /vr/. Like, real, physical autism in the form of text.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:53:03 2017 No.4145805 I have a question. If i wanted a laptop capable to run full speed every DOS/W95 game up to the latest 3d accelerated games, what would i need?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:54:13 2017 No.4145806 >>4145805 Not a MacBook

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:58:46 2017 No.4145814
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>>4145805
Some Pentium 3 Dell. Like a Latitude, IIRC games like Quake 3 with OpenGL still ran fine on them.

I'd go for it this way, find what's available for you to buy and then check if they have proper Win9x drivers and if their GPU can do proper OpenGL and if games like Quake 3 work and work fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:14:15 2017 No.4145841 >>4145781 What version and fixes do you use? This is for the original Diablo btw, not some mod or D2. I just want to play the original game.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:18:22 2017 No.4145858

>>4145814
I'd like to find something like this, but with a nipple mouse, resolution scaling, and Soundblaster compatible audio with FM synthesis. I could even do without the nipple mouse just as long as the other things are covered. Pentium III would be cool but I'd settle for Pentium II or even Pentium 233MMX.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:21:36 2017 No.4145864

>>4145858
The one in the pic related has a nipple mouse.
All of them should also have SB compatibility and a Fn key to scale to fullscreen.

>Pentium III would be cool but I'd settle for Pentium II or even Pentium 233MMX.
Well, you just said you wanted something that would run every Win9x game with 3D acceleration at full speed, good luck finding a P2 or P/MMX machine like that.
Else I would have recommended >>4135387 from the start.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:23:12 2017 No.4145868 >>4145841 No idea about Wine nowadays, don't use it anymore, but I can't imagine it actually loosing compatibility. Else it was just plain Wine with the plain game installed from a unpacked ISO and using no-CD crack, didn't have any problems.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:24:32 2017 No.4145871

>>4145864
>you just said you wanted something that would run every Win9x game with 3D acceleration at full speed

I said I wanted something LIKE what that guy wanted, not the same as what that guy wanted. I care more about running DOS games accurately. If I could run Quake 3 as well, that would be a bonus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:25:55 2017 No.4145878 >>4145868 >I can't imagine it actually loosing compatibility. Don't kid yourself. There's a reason PlayOnLinux has dozens of different versions available to use. WINE is a clusterfuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:26:18 2017 No.4145882 >>4145761 >WINE is a pain in the ass that's the first time I hear that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:26:25 2017 No.4145883 Was still a child, but my first PC gaming experiences where on a Gateway 2000. Loved the thing, remember old games like Descent and Realms of the Haunting.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:28:30 2017 No.4145889

>>4145878
But isn't that fixed by just using different engines or prefixes? I mean it's literary one click operation that you have to do once.
Just try plain Wine install without any configuration or then at least DirectX if it won't run, I'm pretty sure it will just work fine.

Might want to enable virtual desktop though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:30:39 2017 No.4145893 >>4145882 I must be retarded then. I fucking hate using WINE. >>4145889 I know about using different prefixes. If you say it's that simple, I guess I'll just have to give it a try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:30:45 2017 No.4145894 >>4145871 I though you ARE that anon. Should have specified. Then go for the LifeBook if you want ease of use also. Most Pentium era and older laptops have horrible screens anyways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:31:51 2017 No.4145897 >>4145893 Well, it was simple when I used to use it, also Google is your friend. It is a one time thing to configure it if you run into problems and after that you will be able to play the game any time without problems. Good luck!

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:34:34 2017 No.4145902

>>4145894
What's the highest end game the Lifebook could manage? Can it do DOS SVGA stuff like Carmageddon, Build engine games, or Descent II?

>>4145897
Google may be my "friend" but it can't answer questions the way actual humans can. Anyway, what crack do you recommend for noCD?

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:41:11 2017 No.4145917

>>4145902
>What's the highest end game the Lifebook could manage?
Can't really say, Unreal Tournament will still run fine and so will Quake 3, but I think only with software render.

>Can it do DOS SVGA stuff like Carmageddon, Build engine games, or Descent II?
Yes, those are no problem. Like SVGA Duke3D at 800x600.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:43:10 2017 No.4145921

>>4145902
>Google may be my "friend" but it can't answer questions the way actual humans can.
What are you doing with Linux if you can't use google as your bitch?

>what crack do you recommend for noCD?
Google? That's what I did.

http://www.gameburnworld.com/gp/gamefixes/diablo.shtml

https://www.gamecopyworld.eu/games/pc_diablo.shtml

You're going to run it in Wine, being afraid of viruses should be least of your problems.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:52:42 2017 No.4145945

>>4145917
Last I checked, Q3 requires 3D acceleration. Not that that matters too much, I like UT better, and Q2 can scratch my quake itch pretty well.

>>4145921
You misunderstood my point. You can't interact with Google the way you can with a discussion forum or a chat room. You can find information, but at a certain point you have to be able to ask specific questions.

Anyway, I was hoping you would be able to point me towards the specific crack you used, but it sounds like I'm not going to get the answer I'm looking for. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Contrary to popular belief, WINE is not a reliable sandbox, and Windows malware could theoretically do some damage run in it. I'm doubtful this would apply to something attached to an ancient game crack, but you never know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:53:36 2017 No.4145948 >>4145945 >Last I checked, Q3 requires 3D acceleration. Nope, Quake 3 has software mode too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:55:04 2017 No.4145951 >>4145948 OK, but would it run at an acceptable speed on a Pentium II?

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:55:15 2017 No.4145952

>>4145945
>You misunderstood my point. You can't interact with Google the way you can with a discussion forum or a chat room. You can find information, but at a certain point you have to be able to ask specific questions.
I got your point, I'm just saying you can't hope others to play software support for you, specially if you yourself use something like Linux that is way more work then doing the equivalent on Windows or macOS. That learning how to use Google even more effectively than just asking others and figuring out shit for yourself will be much better for yourself in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:58:12 2017 No.4145954 >>4145951 Give me a minute and I will deliver to you this information.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:01:19 2017 No.4145961

>>4145952
There's a number of reasons I don't use modern versions of Windows. Its update system is shit, its current UI is absolutely horrid, and to top it all off, it's basically spyware. Using Linux with KDE gives me a much better experience in a number of ways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:03:19 2017 No.4145967 >>4145961 I didn't say you shouldn't be using it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:08:36 2017 No.4145974 >>4145967 That's true. I did try going back to Windows recently because I was getting sick of all the extra work I had to do with Linux, but the interface and the godawful update system drove me back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:12:25 2017 No.4145982 >>4145974 I personally use several different operating systems and platforms daily, so yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:41:19 2017 No.4146036 >>4145951 >>4145954 Pretty darn horrible, keep away. I did try on a PII based Celeron though and not even a real PII.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:47:43 2017 No.4146053 >>4145761 Shit son, there is a sourceport. Stop dicking around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:57:07 2017 No.4146069 >>4146053 >The code is still a bit of a mess, and unfortunately libRocket doesn’t work, so there’s no GUI at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 01:40:56 2017 No.4147209 Bump.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 04:50:42 2017 No.4147370

>>4146053
No shit there's no sourceport, I wouldn't be asking otherwise.

>>4146036
The Mendocino Celerons, like the 300A on up, were actually superior to the "real" Pentium IIs because their L2 cache ran at a faster clock speed. It's only the Katmai Celerons that were slow, since they lacked any cache.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 04:54:07 2017 No.4147372 >>4147370 *it's the Covington Celerons that were slow, my bad. Those were the ones completely lacking L2 cache.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 08:59:34 2017 No.4147605 >>4137812 How does it run Jazz/Keen/Doom/Quake? Some tests like https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/ aren't in favor of Matrox, but most DOS based benchmarks are.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 09:59:26 2017 No.4147675
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>>4147370
>The Mendocino Celerons, like the 300A on up, were actually superior to the "real" Pentium IIs because their L2 cache ran at a faster clock speed.
I'm curious, is it possible to OC Mendocino on something like 440lx boards?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 11:39:35 2017 No.4147842 >>4147605 It's overkill for any 2D DOS game. It has some limited 3D capability but that's not what the card is for. The main thing about it is the fantastic ramdac and crisp output.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 12:09:47 2017 No.4147886 >>4147842 Jazz Jackrabbit and Commander Keen are notorious for having poor compatibility with different video cards, namely scrolling issues.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 12:11:06 2017 No.4147890 >>4147675 I've run a 333 and a 533 on an LX board. I think you can overclock them through the FSB, though stability might not be that great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 12:28:09 2017 No.4147916 >>4147886 Keen has been patched and I've read about Matrox users not having issues with Jazz on certain configs (a cache thing).

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 13:08:47 2017 No.4147972

>>4145774
>VBox is garbage for retro OSes and officially does not support them.
I think it still supports NT 4, 2000, and XP, under which Diablo should work. 95/98 are are not supported and have issues.

>>4145858
My Pentium II 366 laptop can run UT at low res and Quake 3 with some graphical glitches. Quake 3 is the only picky one, if you have a fast enough processor, UT always has the software mode. The screen is 1024x768 and scales well.

>>4147370
The Durons were also very good budget processors but came out around 2000. I think AMD's budget offering around 1999 was still the K6-2 which reached up to 500mhz and was discounted to compete with the Celeron.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 13:39:34 2017 No.4148006 >>4147886 I run Jazz 1 & 2 on a Matrox millennium without issue. Haven't tried the Keens on it though.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 13:52:15 2017 No.4148023
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How loud was the typical PSU fan in 1980s home computers?
Which computers had unusually loud cooling fans?
Which computers had unusually quiet cooling fans?
Which computers had no fans in them?

When did retro computers start having fans on the CPU?
When did retro computers start having fans on the GPU?
When did retro computers start having case fans?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 15:00:24 2017 No.4148142 >>4131709 This image needs a glass of iced cold Coca-Cola sitting on a coaster to be complete

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 15:06:32 2017 No.4148158
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It is hard for me to appreciate old PC hardware because there is very little distinctive about it. Everything except maybe analog electronics on a sound card can be 100% emulated with modern software/hardware... because the underlying architecture is more or less the same. For this reason it's hard for me to get excited about shitty old graphics cards and outdated CPUs. I mean, a modern Intel processor can still run 8086 code.

Concerning consoles, where the architectures are much more varied and unique, I understand the interest.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 15:27:47 2017 No.4148196

>>4147972
>98/95 not supported

And this is how you know a VM is shit. It should not matter which OS the guest is running. All it needs to do is simulate standard hardware and the guest will just work. VBox simulates a SB16 and PIIX chipset. It used to simulate a standard VESA interface. Shit should just werk.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 15:41:01 2017 No.4148223

>>4148023
PSU fans are just loud all around. It was a given with computers.
CPU fans became common with clock multiplied 486s (eg DX4) and Pentiums.
GPU fans became common with post-voodoo2/rage pro 3D accelerators
Most pre-built already had case fans from the get go. Enthusiast builds had them as soon as enthusiast OC builds first became a thing, which is around when 3D cards were popularized.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 15:47:18 2017 No.4148240 >>4148196 >All it needs to do is simulate standard hardware and the guest will just work. that's the problem, hardware standards changed over time. also drivers that go with the hardware

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 16:00:59 2017 No.4148268 >>4148158 There have been a lot of subtle changes over the year. The so called PC backwards compatibility is superficial at best.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 17:05:49 2017 No.4148452 >>4148240 They have hardware profiles for the relevant eras. eg: SB16, Vesa gfx, etc It just doesn't work properly because it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 17:10:02 2017 No.4148462 >>4148240 It simulates an Intel PIIX3 chipset and sound blaster 16 for OSes like DOS and 9x. You literally just install those drivers. Except then it still doesn't work right because it's VirtualBox.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 18:03:52 2017 No.4148570 >>4148196 It's the display drivers. I can get it to boot/install and use sound fine. I got NT 3.51 to work too. You'll have to use a generic VESA display driver or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 18:10:57 2017 No.4148587 >>4148570 It actually used to simulate a period video card but at some point they decided to roll their own virtual card and removed the option so now retro OSes get fucked.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 19:57:18 2017 No.4148807

>>4148158
You can fully emulate most /vr/ consoles too, but that doesn't make the hardware any less interesting.

To me, there's a lot to the experience that's lost by just running games in DOSBox or whatever. Assembling a complete system from a box of ancient parts, setting jumpers, hearing the floppy drive sounds and audio from a real OPL3, seeing the glorious mode 13h graphics on a real CRT, etc.

It's not for everyone, I'll admit that, but for me nothing is comfier or more rewarding than old PCs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 04:39:26 2017 No.4149761 >>4147370 For synthetic benchmarks, sure. They only had 128KB of cache against 512KB the PII's had. Anything that took advantage of it still ran faster on the PII. They make great overclock cards though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:50:01 2017 No.4149884 >>4149761 >cards Kek, I was thinking of Slot1 CPUs Great CPUs*

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:40:23 2017 No.4150242

>>4149761
>synthetic benchmarks

It was measured on game performance for the most part, where the cache's full clock rate and lower latency was a large asset despite the smaller size. Because let's face it, that was the major use case for Mendocinos. They pretty consistently kept up with a PII at the same clock rate for gaming. The fact that they also took a 50% overclock (something a PII couldn't do because the cache couldn't deal) without breaking a sweat essentially meant you could match a $600 CPU with one that cost $180.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:49:26 2017 No.4150260

>>4150242
>they also took a 50% overclock (something a PII couldn't do because the cache couldn't deal)
bullshit, cache didn't limit the overclock potential
they overclocked pretty much the same, the PII just needed better cooling and a little more voltage, in return it gained fastly higher performance for the same clock

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:09:54 2017 No.4150285 >>4145225 >hang up kek

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:52:09 2017 No.4150434

>>4150260
>bullshit, cache didn't limit the overclock potential

Have you tried OCing an early Slot1 PII?
OC potential around that time was generally not tied to the chip's thermal envelope but instead to cache or chipset stability. The CPUs themselves had enormous headroom, voltage bumps completely unnecessary, and this is the whole reason monster OCs became possible when they moved cache on die with Mendocino.
First hit in Google: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/120288-29-overclocking-cache
You can search up more yourself. Having the cache beside the die through an interconnect instead of on-die hobbled the P2's OC potential and this was widely known.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:55:00 2017 No.4150439 File: 1.73 MB, 3608x3000, DSC_0510.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4145158 i have the same case that 3rd of the left

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 15:33:51 2017 No.4150615 >>4150260 >>4150434 Upping cpu voltage on those pentium 2s would be a terrible idea you'd probably cook the cache chips.

Anonymous Fri Jul 28 01:25:36 2017 No.4151758
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>>4150439
Man it's kinda tempting to assemble a mid 90s AT-build. Got some SS7 AT motherboards lying around but finding a decent case with clock display and working PSU is one hell of a quest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 01:55:24 2017 No.4151797 Is XP the latest OS you should install on a PC that's intended just for pre 2002 or so games? I don't know what Windows 7 compatibility is like for older games. (specifically Morrowind, Diablo 1+2, Deus Ex, Warcraft 3, Half Life and it's expansions)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 02:33:26 2017 No.4151838 >>4151797 it really depends on the games some work fine on a modern machine with Win7 x64, some need a bit of tweaking or patching to work correctly, some don't seem to work at all

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 04:19:36 2017 No.4151939 >>4151758 >AT-build >working PSU Use any AT PSU, you don't need to use the case PSU if you do a standard AT build

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 04:46:16 2017 No.4151963 >>4151758 >and working PSU There are AT adapters for more modern PSUs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 06:59:57 2017 No.4152082 >>4151939 >Use any AT PSU, you don't need to use the case PSU if you do a standard AT build The problem is AT PSU are really hard to come by nowadays. >>4151963 I've never heard about that. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 08:00:15 2017 No.4152150 >>4152082 >The problem is AT PSU are really hard to come by nowadays. They are literary power wires, nothing is stopping you from using an ATX PSU

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 16:42:49 2017 No.4152913 bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 19:54:46 2017 No.4153243 >>4145207 Time traveler here looking for a Gravis gamepad. I'll get yours one day. Your faraday cage won't help you once I find a frequency it doesn't block

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 07:28:25 2017 No.4154227 >>4153243 Wrong decade anon, go back 20 years and you can find one much easier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 15:24:19 2017 No.4155006 >>4152913 k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 17:05:08 2017 No.4155270 >>4145143 That's a truly nice rig.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 07:16:29 2017 No.4156558 >>4150439 >>4151758 moar cases like that

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 08:52:01 2017 No.4156646 File: 1.97 MB, 2000x1500, IMG_0003486spkrside.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4132973 >>4133212 I fucked up, didn't I?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 09:35:59 2017 No.4156694 >>4156646 does it really take over 10 days to load DN3D on your machine?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 09:38:23 2017 No.4156697 >>4156694 >load Dude, it's just 2 frames. The CPU clock display is in Hertz and not MegaHertz.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:03:00 2017 No.4157329 >>4148023 >How loud was the typical PSU fan in 1980s home computers? IBM PC/XT/AT used a 110V/220V fan in them, go figure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:12:18 2017 No.4157793 >>4156694 kek

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:17:52 2017 No.4158136

>>4131709

> Might be picking up an old Vectra VE from work
> Literally sitting on a shelf in a backroom covered in dust
> Boss says he thinks there might be "some files" on it that are important so we'd need to transfer those first

Seems like the average model is packing a Celeron 400 and 32MB of RAM, but some go as far back as P2-233s so who knows. Gonna make sure he's serious and then order an IDE to USB adapter.

Should make a nice native DOS gaming machine with the ability to go up to decent mid to late 90s 3D gaming with the addition of a decent graphics card.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:29:02 2017 No.4158152 >>4131709 jesus fuck on dosbox all you have to do >drag and drop install.bat >type load.com Voila!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:30:09 2017 No.4158154 >>4158152 >jesus fuck on dosbox calm your horses anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:43:56 2017 No.4158184 A shitty fx5200 is okay for a PII 450Mhz?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:57:40 2017 No.4158213 >>4152150 The only problem are the modern atx psu lacking the -5v for ISA slots. Some old soundblaster will have issues or will not work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 01:29:36 2017 No.4158328 >>4158184 Not period accurate, but totally fine. >>4158213 >-5v Man, just got a 300W FSP with -5 rail and my mobo immediately reported that voltage on -5 is way below nominal. Fuck my luck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 03:47:15 2017 No.4158495 >>4158213 >>4158328 Pin 18 on the ATX 20-pin carries -5V if it's connected. Alternatively you could mod a modern PSU and run a wire to invert 5V and carry it down to that pin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 08:22:28 2017 No.4158689 >>4158213 Are you, sorry to say, retardo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 17:46:42 2017 No.4159636 File: 327 KB, 1920x1080, abitkt7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ah fresh recapped motherboard with panasonics

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 17:59:31 2017 No.4159662 >>4159636 Nice!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 18:05:34 2017 No.4159672 Question for you guys. I'm building a PIII IBM Aptiva with no AGP slots. I've only been looking at Voodoo3 2000 and 3000, but have been having a hard time trying to find one? What would be suitable PCI replacements?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 18:10:48 2017 No.4159682 >>4159672 Voodoo 3

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 18:15:41 2017 No.4159702 >>4159672 geforce4 mx, they should be real cheap. Add voodoo2 if you need glide

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 18:20:10 2017 No.4159719 >>4159672 All of my good retro gfx cards are AGP except for my Voodoo3 cards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 18:35:56 2017 No.4159740 >>4159672 3dfx made PCI versions of all their cards, so the 4 and 5 may also be options.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 20:28:29 2017 No.4159957
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>>4132970
I don't know where he got it from, but my Dad, handed me a Rage Fury Pro that he got from someone who never opened it. This was in 2009. I said, whoa... Now I can play all the games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 02:39:08 2017 No.4160658 >>4156646 Oh shit. That garvis pad takes me back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 07:20:40 2017 No.4160874 File: 28 KB, 425x282, 965354666.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4159636 Time to pencil-mod my Duro... Oh wait, that's not retro.

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 07:59:26 2017 No.4160908

>>4137996
>>4143252
Any tips on getting the CD version to work on PII processors? The patcher I used for the shareware version (TPPATCH) doesn't detect the executable.

>>4142134
Got the exact same laptop, upgraded it with an 80GB hard drive and a DVD drive. Works great for W95/early W98 games and DVD playback. Sound drivers are decent, with EAX / A3D support using VXD drivers. Not as good as a true SB Live or Vortex2, but it works.

DOS sound compatibility is annoying - you can only get proper DOS sound using WDM drivers in a DOS box, and the drivers often glitch out in some DirectSound games - I've had issues in Tomb Raider 2 (no sound) and Unreal (crackling with DSound enabled).

The built-in ATI Rage Pro - based chip works wel for most games, save for more demanding games and DOS games like Commander Keen 4 (which exhibit scroll issues).

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 09:56:20 2017 No.4161035 Remember TV-Wonder?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 10:00:09 2017 No.4161041 >>4160874 im planning to do that to my athlon but im going to use conductive paint instead. Its totally retro because im going to run mostly 90s games on my machine

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 12:49:55 2017 No.4161321 >>4150434 Katmai PIIIs wern't much better - running the cache outside spec by 30MHz (CPU frequency of 560MHz vs 500MHz) caused memory test issues on mine. (main RAM was in spec and good: it was PC133 running at PC100 (112 OC)).

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 15:24:46 2017 No.4161580 >>4145143 > airport security > sir, we're gonna have to ask you to open that up and login

>>	Fedorasubs Tue Aug 1 15:55:48 2017 No.4161642 >>4148570 >generic VESA display driver Which is shit comparable to running safemode in 256 colors.

>>	Fedorasubs Tue Aug 1 15:58:42 2017 No.4161647 >>4145761 >I'm not going to dualboot and reboot into Windoze just to play it. >Muh stallman Maybe you need to go back >>>/g/

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 16:25:23 2017 No.4161698 >>4161580 Jokes on them, there's no login.

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 18:31:46 2017 No.4161928 [DELETED]

>>4161642
It's actually exactly the same fucking thing. What do you think safemode is even using for graphics, if not the generic VESA driver?

This idiot namefag too dumb to even use a tripcode is constantly spreading misinformation and pushing childish opinions with an unproductively aggressive attitude. Everyone knows to ignore this shit, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 18:34:22 2017 No.4161935 >>4161928 kek

>>	Fedorasubs Tue Aug 1 21:07:24 2017 No.4162205 >>4161928 Nope.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 11:12:18 2017 No.4163371 >>4132914 PC a shit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 16:37:06 2017 No.4164094 >>4161642 32 bit color works using VBEMP under NT 3.51. I can even play Unreal, UT, Deus Ex! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRS1UU8QPc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPy1XKq0Dog

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 23:49:09 2017 No.4164991 >>4164094 Topkek

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 04:18:09 2017 No.4165340 File: 27 KB, 640x480, 501948092_1_1000x700_korpus-chieftec-dragon-kiev.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dude selling two of these for 12 UDS each. Should i pull the trigger?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 07:30:48 2017 No.4165525 >>4165340 classic early 2000 case perfect for athlon xp or pentium 4. Looks like a cheiftec dragon but there where more brands with that style.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 10:32:29 2017 No.4165718 >>4165340 For 12 bucks? I'd do it. One for a retro rig, one for a sleeper. Watch the shipping prices, though.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:15:31 2017 No.4165769 [DELETED]

>>4131709
>PC Gaming
>PC
PC's aren't a natural gaming device. A lot of PC elitists tend to be Pretentious Cucks who think they're better than console gamers. Besides everyone of my friends owned a console for gaming. I never knew anyone who owned a computer during the mid-90's except for this fat ugly virgin friend I had who was always in his basement. I always came to him for help on my homework assignment, which is where the internet came in handy.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:15:59 2017 No.4165772

I was thinking of building or buying a 486 DOS rig and a 95/98 rig. Anything I should keep in mind when shopping around for prebuilt ones or selecting parts for them? Should I also consider making or buying an XP machine? Not entirely sure what the OS-hardware-game overlaps are for eras. I heard in places that I may as well make a DOS-95 machine and a 98-XP machine instead of going for the DOS, 95/98, and XP eras individually. But that doesn't sound like the best idea in terms of compatability, but I only started building PCs for gaming in the early 2000's (used prebuilts for DOS-98 eras) so I don't know shit about buying and making retro PCs anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:19:22 2017 No.4165774 >>4165769 >I never knew anyone who owned a computer during the mid-90's except for this fat ugly virgin friend I had who was always in his basement. >IT WASN'T A THING EXCEPT IT WAS Fuck off retard. Gaming PC ads even go back into the early/mid 90's.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:19:57 2017 No.4165776
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>133mhz FSB and 133mhz SDRAM is literally hard bottlenecking my Pentium III 1.4-S Tualatin

15 years later and I'm still mad. Fuck Intel for crippling the Tualatin just to make the Pentium 4 look good

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:20:39 2017 No.4165778 >>4165769 here's your (you)

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:21:11 2017 No.4165779 >>4165772 When you go for prebuilds you're probably gonna find shitty builds that are overpriced. Just build it yourself. (i.e. 486 with cache missing, Win9x machine with shitty PCI sound card, etc)

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:36:00 2017 No.4165790

>>4165779
Figured that was the case. Are there any particular specs to target for a 486 build and a win9x build, and any problems to be aware of? Mostly concerned with the choice of motherboard, graphics card, sound card, and CPU. Thinking 486DX2 for the dos build and a Pentium 2 or 3 for the win9x build. Although basic searches sometimes say Pentium 4 instead of 2 or 3.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:52:25 2017 No.4165820

>>4165790
>Thinking 486DX2 for the dos build
That's good. 66MHz or 80MHz DX2.
Get a VLB motherboard with a VLB graphics card and VBL I/O, storage controller. Fill up the cache, 256KB.
You can also get several sound cards and use them depending on the game and a DreamBlaster if you want to keep it cheap.
You can also go for autismo stuff like CF card storage, etc.

>Pentium 2 or 3 for the win9x build.
Go for a 133MHz bus board. Most commonly Socket 370 board, but some Slot 1 boards exist too.
Some nice Coppermine P3 paired with some GeForce 4 series card and a Voodoo 3 or two Voodoo 2's in SLI.
Vortex 2 and a Audigy! sound card.

>Pentium 4 instead of 2 or 3.
Nah, don't. More mess then it's worth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:53:49 2017 No.4165825 >>4165820 Forgot to say, Turbo option will be important too for the 486. That together with disabling cache is needed for some older games to play fine.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:56:14 2017 No.4165834

>>4165790
For DOS a high spec 486 or early Pentium. Something with software set cache/bus preferable for dealing with earlier speed sensitive titles. Good VESA compliant video card. SB compatible sound card with a good wavetable card or daughter board.
Modern windows can still deal with XP era games so you shouldn't need a separate system for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:57:55 2017 No.4165838 >>4165834 >Modern windows can still deal with XP era games so you shouldn't need a separate system for that. Glide emulation a shit A3D emulation a shit EAX emulation a shit Games needing patches a shit >XP era games 1996-2001 is no XP era, son

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 12:53:03 2017 No.4165901 >>4165769 Depends where you lived, here in the uk we had more pc's as they were considered 'educational', my first console was a ps2. Computers saw more use in those early years prior to the ps2

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 12:57:15 2017 No.4165908 >>4165901 don't encourage bait

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 12:58:08 2017 No.4165910 >>4165901 Actually I lie, we had gameboys but they sucked until gen1 pokemon. All my friends had shitty P1 / AMD shitboxes, except the weird kid down the street who had a nes and an acorn risc pc, but his family were christfags so go figure

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 12:59:49 2017 No.4165914 >>4165910 >christfags wasn't everybody back then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 13:01:13 2017 No.4165918 What can I do with a shit Packard-Bell 607G with a Cyrix MII, 64MB ram and a 5 gig hard drive any ideas what I should throw in this thing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 13:03:40 2017 No.4165926 >>4165918 That's very nice anon. Throw in a CF card and proper Sound Blaster. Maybe even a nice SVGA PCI card.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 13:06:33 2017 No.4165928 >>4165926 Is there any benefit to CF card over say a sata - ide adapter

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 13:08:03 2017 No.4165931 >>4165928 CF card is native ATA CF card is flash storage

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 13:13:14 2017 No.4165946 >>4165926 Thanks man I really was debating on whether I add a AdLib or SB card but I guess either would be fine

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 13:16:27 2017 No.4165951 >>4165946 AdLib is a little too old for a machine like that, AdLib would be more suited for a PC/XT/AT or 386. Some Sound Blaster or compatible with a Wavetable header and board would be the way to go.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 13:37:41 2017 No.4166007 >>4165838 He specifically asked about an XP box for later games in his previous post, sperg.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 13:46:30 2017 No.4166026 >>4166007 Woooooooooooow r u for rly? See >>4165790 >Thinking 486DX2 for the dos build and a Pentium 2 or 3 for the win9x build. He wasn't talking about XP since a long time anymore (>>4165772) You should have replied to that (>>4165772) post then.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 15:07:32 2017 No.4166178

>>4165774
>Butt-hurt Pretentious Cuck Disaster Race Virgin detected

Funny thing is the one friend who I knew owned a computer, never played games on it. He had a Playstation 1, Sega Genesis & SNES. PC gaming just wasn't up there with console gaming, because a lot of PC games were click & point games. Boring.

>>4165901
True. I guess here in the U.S., it was more common to find console gamers than PC owners back then.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 15:21:20 2017 No.4166209

>>4166178
>>Butt-hurt Pretentious Cuck Disaster Race Virgin detected
REEEE, etc, etc

Yes, PCs still sucked at the time, microcomputers where the "PC" equivalent of gaming on computer, PCs only started to do so in the mid 90's after Doom and reached its gaming status in the turn of the century after getting proper consumer accessible 3D acceleration and games with support for it.

You literary knew ONE person who owned a computer in the mid 90's?
Fuck, even in shithole iron curtain countries actual PCs (not microcomputers) where common as fuck already.

>friend who I knew owned a computer, never played games on it.
Dumb friend not taking advantage of dial-up and all the fun things you could get off the net.
>because a lot of PC games were click & point games. Boring.
Boring opinion if you ask me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 15:28:44 2017 No.4166223 >>4166026 >aspergers intensifies

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 15:29:35 2017 No.4166226 File: 133 KB, 900x900, 1501691523199.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4166223

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 15:37:34 2017 No.4166262 >>4166026 >since a long time anymore >like 4 posts over 20min u wot m8

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 15:49:28 2017 No.4166296 Many thanks for the suggestions, guys. When I complete the builds in a couple weeks I reckon, I'll post results if I see a thread.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 15:49:56 2017 No.4166297

>>4165769
>>4166178
>Boring

>point and click games like Monkey Island series, Another World, FOTAQ are "boring"
>real time strategy games like Command and Conquer are "boring"
>first person shooter games like Doom and Duke Nukem 3D are "boring"
>first person games like Terminator Future Shock and TES DaggerFall are "boring"

Have fun getting only some of those games on console with ruined graphics and crippled controls.
Anyone owning a PC in the mid-90's not to also play on it would have been an idiot or literary a normie.

You would have been a pretty hardcore console fanboy if you had access to a PC but you literary limited yourself from playing it's games that didn't even have equivalents on your fanboi console. See how dumb it sounds now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 16:33:12 2017 No.4166397 >>4165769 You are a fucking casual this is literally what normie cucks believe gtfo

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 16:37:10 2017 No.4166408 >>4166397 This, that's something even today some 14 year would say who grew up with and Xbox.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 16:41:23 2017 No.4166418 >>4156646 it looks like a mech now

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 16:45:56 2017 No.4166428 >>4166418 Great, time to install MechWarrior now.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 16:57:58 2017 No.4166447 [DELETED]

>>4166209
It was the 90's, computers weren't common in every home yet. You're more likely to see one at school, a library or an office than at a friends home. As for whether or not my friend took advantage of what he could get off the net, if by that you mean pirating video games? Then no, probably because he preferred gaming on his TV. Can't exactly hook up a computer to a TV at the time. Especially since some games uses a light gun and requires a CRT TV.

>>4166297
All point and click games are boring. There's no denying that.

>First person shooter games
I don't play FPS games because they're all the same.

>Have fun getting some of those games on console with ruined graphics and crippled controls.
Doom & Duke Nukem look just fine on console, even the controls work perfectly on it. I may not like FPS games, but it's not like I haven't tried them before. Thanks to renting those games.

>Implying being a "normie" is a bad thing.
At least us normies get laid, unlike the Pretentious Cucks Disaster Race, being fat, ugly & angry all the time.

>You would have been a pretty hardcore console fanboy if you had access to PC but you literary limited yourself from playing it's games
Or maybe the mouse & keyboard was no substitute for a console controller. Plus anyone owning a PC, has to worry about meeting with it's minimum requirements to play games on it. On top of that Batman Returns for the PC is a boring point & click game, compared to it's SNES counterpart which was a beat em up.

>>4166397
>>4166408
>Angry Pretentious Cuck Disaster Race Virgin detected.
The real casuals here are the Pretentious Cucks who pirates so many games on their PC, but doesn't play the majority of them. What a waste of space. At least I play & enjoy every single game that I own.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 16:59:51 2017 No.4166451 >>4166447 >At least us normies get laid >willingly giving up wizard powers >>>/out/

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 17:01:22 2017 No.4166453 >>4166447 >you can only pirate games online >what is shareware

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 17:04:29 2017 No.4166459

>>4166447
>At least I play & enjoy every single game that I own.
Doesn't look like it, you just keep repeating the fact that you can't properly /vr/ and enjoy several platforms and just fanboy consoles and you do it hard like someone would have insulted your mother.

When you downloaded something over dial-up, you sure as Hell where going to play the shit out of it, shareware or pirated, doesn't matter.
Do you mean today? We are on /vr/, you might want to go to /v/ if you're going to talk todays games.

Have the (You) you're looking for so badly.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 17:06:58 2017 No.4166463
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>>4166447
Have another (You), this was just hilarious after reading it again.
You can have a few more if you keep it up, I understand you dream of derailing threads and thinking you're actually making someone raise an eyebrow with your shitposts.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 17:17:55 2017 No.4166483

>>4166447
>Doom & Duke Nukem look just fine on console, even the controls work perfectly on it.
nah, they are low resolution shit and the controls are horrible with controllers, strafing is way harder
also no way to play multiplayer with more than just two player split screen, useless

>At least us normies get laid
nah, everybody had a console, even the poor, ugly and dumb ones, only people with rich parents or people who made good money themselves had PCs, the kind that get laid all the time
you're watching too many movies kiddo

>Or maybe the mouse & keyboard was no substitute for a console controller.
it was no substitute, it was just superior for anything that wasn't a platformer or beat em up
and platformers actually controller pretty well

>Plus anyone owning a PC, has to worry about meeting with it's minimum requirements to play games on it.
sucks to be poor, how can you afford condoms??

>On top of that Batman Returns for the PC is a boring point & click game, compared to it's SNES counterpart which was a beat em up.
>The DOS version of the game, published by Konami, differs considerably from the other versions, in that it was not primarily an action game, rather an adventure game.
uhm, yeah, we know that some companies didn't make straight ports for every platform, consoles got the short end of the stick too more than they wished

why do you ignore the other games like Terminator Future Shock, Daggerfall or Command and Conquer? dumb or afraid of getting btfo too much?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 17:36:17 2017 No.4166514 >>4156646 Liked the old design better. This one looks like its gonna say 'help me obiwan, you're my only hope' at any moment.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 17:46:10 2017 No.4166527 >>4165820 >Vortex and Audigy Never had much vluck getting these two to play nice together. It's like they hate each other as much as their patent companies did and tend to take the whole '98 install with them.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:47:25 2017 No.4166615

>>4166527
Dunno, in Windows 98 it's out of the box if you have both drivers installed, then just pick with the control panel which one you want, depending if you're going to play a A3D game or a EAX game and for DOS you can configure one to A220 IRQ 5/7/11 and the other also to A240 IRQ 5/7/11, just don't' use the same as the first one. Not that you would want to use both at once for DOS anyways, so just don't install both DOS drivers.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:05:23 2017 No.4166647

Why was beige such a popular color for electronics in late 80's early 90's? It's so fucking ugly. Even worse than the chrome fad of the late 90's to early 00's

Like I can understand the wood grain fetish, it's not my thing but I can see how it would get popular. But beige? Jesus christ

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:12:57 2017 No.4166658 File: 479 KB, 1000x750, 1501801977668.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4166514 >help me obiwan, you're my only hope TOPKEK

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:14:02 2017 No.4166661 >>4166647 >Why was beige such a popular color for electronics in late 80's early 90's? it was a easy to reproduce color for the plastics, requiring no painting, just molding >I can understand the wood grain fetish that's autistic

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:27:08 2017 No.4166682 Report and ignore is a dead concept, innit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:33:02 2017 No.4166691 >>4166682 There isn't really a rule against plain stupidity, even if it might be bait, as long it's not breaking any rules. Ignore is boring, the thread would be dead if we just ignored.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 20:40:10 2017 No.4166795

>>4166691
I have literally never heard of the term "Pretentious Cucks Disaster Race" and the rest of the rhetoric is consistent with or similar to certain trolls from here and /v/. Responding to obvious bait is in no way constructive and actively harms the thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 20:45:14 2017 No.4166810 File: 18 KB, 451x451, 1500160473481.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4166795 Sorry Mr.Moderator.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 20:52:20 2017 No.4166820 File: 2.47 MB, 2094x3881, MSDOS-VR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 21:00:28 2017 No.4166837

>>4166820
Where is Hired Guns?
Where is Rise of the Triad?

Why have so many games that aren't close to being definitive versions on DOS? (this being a /vr/ guide, /vr/ is multiplatform not fanboy like platform focused)

I like being a dick, nice list anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 21:24:19 2017 No.4166871 >>4166691 >stupidity >getting upset over a post you think is bait A true anti-SJW never gets upset. Grow up kid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 21:26:07 2017 No.4166873 >>4166871 Calm your tits boy, nobody got upset, it was obvious bait.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 22:12:26 2017 No.4166946 >>4166871 You must be 18+ to browse 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 22:50:06 2017 No.4166996 >>4166946 I don't care if they browse, as long as they don't post.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 02:37:47 2017 No.4167460 >>4166428 You have successfully displayed the ability to do what I tell you to do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 02:43:34 2017 No.4167468 >>4167460 You didn't tell me to install MechWarrior, I could have picked any shitty mech game, but I choose MechWarrior. I HAVE FREE WILL.

Anonymous Fri Aug 4 03:15:22 2017 No.4167520
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>>4166615
>install SB Live and Vortex
>boot up, click start button but nothing happens
>can move the mouse but can't click anything
>after a few more seconds any mouse movements start causing the PC speaker to BRRRTTTTTT
>P&P up and configured itself into a conflict
>can't alter hardware settings in safe mode because lel win9x
>remove Vortex, start back up
>problem still there
>remove SB and replace Vortex
>problem still there
>have both cards removed
>problem still there because fuck you
>have to reinstall Windows to unfuck it
>try different slots and order/combination of setting things up
>same thing happens
>repeat until give up and toss the SB in a drawer because the Vortex sounds better
Probably what I get for using the IRQ hell that was the BH-6.

>>4167468
My dog does what I tell it to. I like my dog.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 03:19:12 2017 No.4167526 >>4167520 What exact cards where you using?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 03:22:44 2017 No.4167530 >>4167520 is that pic made with powerpoint or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 03:27:20 2017 No.4167538 File: 65 KB, 750x600, vistaban.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4167526 SB Live 5.1 and a TB Montego II. I think. It has been years. Fucking things caused an apocalypse together in that system every time. >>4167530 Vintage /g/ maymay

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 08:29:34 2017 No.4167786 >>4167520 I do believe you can set irq manually in bios

Anonymous Fri Aug 4 11:00:53 2017 No.4167956

>>4167786
Doesn't work on those abit slot 1 boards. You can set a slot to fixed IRQ for legacy purposes but a) you can't choose the resource and b) slots arbitrarily share resources with other slots and onboard components and there is no way to decouple them. Shit was called plug and pray for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 11:12:33 2017 No.4167983 >>4167956 I see, you could try to disable shit you dont use like serial port, onboard audio, usb, parallel port. If you already haven't

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 11:14:30 2017 No.4167991 >>4167983 That system was years ago. If there was a combination settings and order of installation that worked with both cards and still let me use everything I needed at the time, I never found it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 23:01:22 2017 No.4169523 >>4166658 Kekd and saved

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 07:20:31 2017 No.4170196 >>4167538 >>4167991 Never had a problem with Audigy! and Vortex 2 though

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 17:39:31 2017 No.4171249 bump for nice thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 18:19:16 2017 No.4171339 File: 145 KB, 800x942, 218137-klik-play-windows-3-x-front-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What was/is your '90s gamedev tool of choice? Did you manage to keep your old games?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 18:57:42 2017 No.4171398 File: 60 KB, 500x542, dead.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4166658 holy key my sides

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 11:28:46 2017 No.4172616 File: 261 KB, 640x480, pc-65187-21460174061.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4171339 Thanks, Don.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 23:09:09 2017 No.4173887 bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 23:27:41 2017 No.4173928 >>4132970 This card was complete and total garbage. It's what you bought if you had no idea what you were doing, lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 23:36:25 2017 No.4173948 >>4132970 do you post that in every thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 03:00:04 2017 No.4174274 >>4173928 >imblying g400 is bad and ENBM wasn't dankest shit since Glide Dude, you like wrong and shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 06:06:40 2017 No.4174512 >>4137992 Captain Claw

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 11:49:41 2017 No.4174892 >>4174274 >ENBM what's this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 19:04:34 2017 No.4175623 >>4174892 en ur bum lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 01:39:31 2017 No.4176347 File: 827 KB, 800x600, CxxgWdZ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4174892 Typo. EMBM actually - Environment Mapped Bump Mapping. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 01:41:06 2017 No.4176351 >>4176347 What game?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 05:29:53 2017 No.4176558 >>4176351 Millennium Soldier: Expendable

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 01:19:56 2017 No.4178201 File: 69 KB, 1280x720, yonoid2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey, /vr/, is it possible to find some sort of capture card with RCA-in for streaming video signal form retro consoles and also will run on PIII machine.

Anonymous Wed Aug 9 01:37:06 2017 No.4178231

>>4178201
What specifically are you trying to accomplish? TV tuner cards certainly existed back then if you're just interested in is playing games on a PC monitor. If you're talking about "streaming" over the Internet then the PIII isn't strong enough for that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 01:38:57 2017 No.4178235 >>4178231 >P3 is not fast enough to stream a 480p signal wut

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 01:43:02 2017 No.4178247 >>4178235 To encode 480p in real time to h.264 as required by streaming sites? I mean, you can try, but I doubt it's going to go well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 01:44:50 2017 No.4178252 >>4178247 >to h.264 uh oh >streaming didn't exist before 264

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 01:50:47 2017 No.4178263 >>4178252 What are you even arguing about? Of course it existed before that, but modern streaming sites like Twitch require h.264, and good luck doing that on a PIII. This is why I asked for clarification as to what exactly he wants to do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 01:58:17 2017 No.4178275 >>4178263 >twitch go away normie

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 03:18:10 2017 No.4178385 >>4178231 >What specifically are you trying to accomplish? Basically I want to play my playstation and dreamcast using my retro rig as TV. And actual tv is not an option.

Anonymous Wed Aug 9 03:34:01 2017 No.4178402

>>4178385
Dreamcast supports VGA directly with the appropriate adapter. For PS1, a tuner card is one way to do it, though you may run into latency problems since they were mainly intended for TV/VCRs, not games. There are also various scandoublers which convert 15kHz video to 31kHz with no latency, but they can be hard to find and expensive.

In general it's going to be less hassle to just find a small cheap/free TV, but it's up to you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 09:29:52 2017 No.4178725 >>4133053 Haha I wish I took more pictures like this from my childhood. Looks comfy af

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 12:23:13 2017 No.4178983 File: 1.03 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_9021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got it for $5. Has no power adapter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 12:36:04 2017 No.4178996 File: 254 KB, 1500x571, pcs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mostly Commodore stuff, but some PC's too.

Anonymous Wed Aug 9 13:49:01 2017 No.4179120

>>4145761
I used to watch my cousin play Diablo 1 because I was too young and didn't have a PC of my own. Either way, 2 years ago I found a mod that makes Diablo 1 run on Windows 7 x64.

My cousin still had the CD's so I installed Diablo 1 the original. Then I add the mod files from this website: diablo1.ohv.org/hd/?features

Heres a video. It mod adds a few enhancements but story and feel is are exactly the same as the original.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3MulO98znc

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 9 14:42:18 2017 No.4179213 There's a new thread about retro computers on /g/ too right now desu Just letting you guys know

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 10 01:16:34 2017 No.4180363 >>4178983 Jelly as fuck. Nice find, anon. Also, would buy one even if it's dead, just because how awesome it looks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 10 01:24:40 2017 No.4180375 >>4178983 someone already provided you the pinout start working on it

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 11 01:32:28 2017 No.4182598 File: 1015 KB, 2048x1536, MYl6fj04u68.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Comfy battlestation bump.

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