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>Masterpiece tier
LeChuck's Revenge

>Great Tier
Secret, Curse

>At least you tried
Escape

>Eh it's... eh
Tales

>What the fuck you fucked it up tier
Remastered editions.

Adventure game thread.
Broken Sword, Dig, Maniac Mansion etc.

What's your favourite?

>> No.413108

>>413082

>Broken Sword

Hnnnng

>> No.413139

>>413082

ain't nothing wrong with remastered MI2. 1 on the other hand...

>> No.413143
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>> No.413158

I really wish all point n click games would just be released for the iPad. it's pretty much the perfect system for them

>> No.413161

>>413139

But... the bone song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X4aa-nn3IxI

It's horrible.

>> No.413172

>>413143

>That feel when TLJ works fine on windows 8 but Dreamfall doesn't, thanks to Starforce bullshit DRM

Feels bad.

>> No.413164

Switch SOMI and MI2, and Tales and Remastered then it's good.

>> No.413165

I post this all the time in these threads.

The best over all library belongs to LucasArts, but the best adventure game ever made is Sierra's Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers.

>> No.413183
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413183

>>413172
>windows 8

>> No.413194

>>413183

Don't look at me like that faggot. This is /vr/ not /g/.

>> No.413204

>Complaining about the Remastered Editions

Why?

>> No.413208

wait, why are remastered editions bad?

>> No.413228
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413228

>>413204

They look like shit and ruined a lot of the music.
I mean, they literally used Comic Sans here.

Voice acting was nice though.

>> No.413235

>>413208
>>413204
shit controls, terrible voice acting, fucked up ugly animations and general art style (see: >>413161)

>> No.413254

>>413228

You do realize you can use the original graphics?

>> No.413264
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413264

>Masterpiece tier
Sins of the Fathers

>Great tier
The Beast Within

>Great, except for cat hair mustache tier
Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned

>>413082
And I mostly agree with you OP, though I'd put Secret in masterpiece tier and LeChuck's Revenge in great tier, simply because I feel the first is a more timeless game. MI2 is more fun however, but some of the puzzles aren't for everyone and the ending is a bit controversial.
If Tales was as good on the whole as its last two episodes, it could have been comparable to Curse. Escape was kind of like an Al Lowe written Monkey Island game, which is funny but not really that MI like.

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413282

>>413235
>shit controls

Really, faggot?

>> No.413279

>>413228
I literally cringed when I saw that, having recently started a game in Monkey Island 1 on ScummVM.

>> No.413308

>>413282

But the remaster removes the UI so it is shitty to control.

>> No.413315

>>413264
I'm not sure if Monkey Island 2's puzzles are harder or if it's just more confusing 'cause you have so many items leftover in your inventory.

>> No.413304

>>413282
They console-ized the HUD in Monkey Island 1. It was really lousy. Pretty sure they did the same thing in 2 but I played 2 with its original graphics and kept the voice acting on (A feature left out of the first game's remake for some reason) so I'm not too sure about that one.

They really, really ruined the Steve Purcell artwork in the remakes, though. Ugh.

>> No.413320

>>413315
I've beaten that game countless times and I still have trouble with that stupid "If this is five" puzzle.

>> No.413324

>>413161
Much better version and the way it was intended to be heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHgRlsOvN3M

>> No.413334

>>413315

MI2 isn't linear so naturally it's more complex.

>MFW It took until I was 20 to realise you open a valve with a monkey because monkey wrench.

I felt like such a faggot. I never got that puzzle, my brother told me how to do it.

>> No.413350

>>413228

whydoesthisevenexist.png

>> No.413386

>>413324

Based MT-32

So glad SCUMMVM has (some) emulation now.

Not great emulation though.

>> No.413392

The MI1 remake was my first Monkey Island

>> No.413393
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>>413315
>>413334
Don't get me wrong, I love the original and LeChuck's revenge equally.
But if only one of them would be eligible for the future video game equivalent of the National Film Registry, I'd point at Secret, simply because it's a more complete experience. LeChuck's Revenge assumes that you've played the first and features a set up at the end to a sequel we never got, but it's bigger, more challenging and often funnier than the more straight forward and fable like original.

>> No.413402

>>413392
mfw it was mine too

>> No.413407

>>413392
I-I'm so sorry...
Did you play it on a PC or console?
Did you play it in "arrange" mode or classic mode or did you switch between them on the fly?
Have you explored the series further since?

>> No.413421

>>413407
PC
Arrange
Yes, I played the 2 remake and a bit of 3 and Tales.

>> No.413431

>Classic that reinvented a genre
SoMI

>Best in the series
Revenge

>My personal favourite because childhood feels
Curse

>Not as bad as people make out but still bad
Escape

>Pointless but not criminal
Remakes

>Pirate themed adventure game with Monkey Island name slapped on it
Tales

>> No.413441

>>413235

>terrible voice acting

you take that back

you take that back RIGHT NOW

>> No.413450

>Masterpiece tier
MI2

>Awesome tier
SoMI

>Shit tier
everything else

>> No.413481

>Great atmosphere tier
Monkey Island 1

>Monkey Island 1 with less atmosphere but more character, locations, puzzles, and game.
Monkey Island 2

>Looks great and is decent but last quarter is shit.
Monkey Island 3

>wut
Monkey Island 4

>Decent games
Telltale's Island
Remakes

>> No.413513

>Masterpiece tier
the entire Polda series

>> No.413515

>>413441
Secret's remake had a lot of great talent like Rob Paulse, Cam Clarke, and Jess Harnell, along with a few other recognizable actors (Having the cast from Monkey 3 was great too) but the voice direction was awful. Awful, awful, awful. None of the delivery sounded like it should. Almost everything was off. The only person who seemed to really "get" how the lines were supposed to be said was Dominic Armato's Guybrush (Which makes sense considering how big of a fan of the games he is). There's countless instances that felt off but I can't remember too many off the top of my head. One that comes to mind is the Loom advertising pirate in the SCUMM bar. The way he's written makes it seem like he speaks with a very gruff tone in contrast to his character art, only replying "Aye" to everything you say until you ask him about Loom. I always imagined him to sound like a serious salesman when talking about Loom and lighting up. The remake gives him this really goofy, cartoonish sounding voice. It sounds...phoned in, I guess. A lot of MI 1's lines do.

MI 2's voice acting is so, so good, though. Everything line delivery is spot on and is exactly as I always imagined them to be spoken. I don't know who directed the voice acting for either games but they either got someone else or whoever was in charge really improved. Absolutely fantastic to the point where I honestly have a hard time playing it without the voice acting now. James Arnold Taylor is such a good Largo. A shame people only think of Tidus when they hear his voice (Another game with great talent ruined by bad voice direction)

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>>413082
>Masterpiece tier
The Devil's Playhouse
the comics

>Great Tier
Hit the Road

>At least you tried
Save the World

>Eh it's... eh
Beyond Time and Space

>What the fuck you fucked it up tier
Freelance Police (the cartoon show)

>> No.413612

>>413558
I loved Beyond Time and Space, Hit the Road, and most of Save the World but i'm just not feeling it with The Devil's Playhouse at the start, is there a point where it should get more enjoyable?

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413648

>>413612
Not the dude you are responding to but I feel as Beyond Time and Space is the most constantly great season of the episodic games, while The Devil's Playhouse starts of ho hum, but gets better and better with each episode culminating in the best finale of the series.
Save the World didn't get great until episode 4, but what an episode that is.

>> No.413664

>>413612
I just consider each season one solid game, so I'd say there's no point in judging it until you've finished each episode.

and season 2 felt too similar to season 1 to me, it just felt like more of the same and I felt a little underwhelmed by it

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>>413664
>felt
>felt
>felt

>> No.413714

>>413664
Though I'm not averse to you judging season quality overall, they are not like "one full game" due to their nature, just like a tv series is more the sum of its parts rather than a whole like a film is.
So, uneven quality criticisms are valid I feel.

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413730

I used to love Torin's Passage as a kid. Thought it had some amazing locales, especially lands two and three.
I've never seen anyone else mention it though.

>> No.413737

>>413558
>masterpiece tier:
Crash bandicoot 1-3
>great tier
CTR
>at least you tried
Wrath of cortex
>what the fuck you fucked it up
Anything post wrath of cortex

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413895

Fate of Atlantis always does the trick for me, I love everything there is to love about this damn game.

>> No.413927

>>413895
SQUAB.

>> No.413971
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413971

Fate of Atlantis

>> No.413970
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413970

I liked Simon the Sorcerer 1 and 2. The first one had a lot of slow walking around and the second had some nonsensical puzzles and a lack of Chris Barrie, but I think they're good games. Art-wise they've got some of the greatest pixel backdrops I've ever seen.

Then along came Simon the Sorcerer 3D which fucked it up, and now some German company is making Simon games with no idea what the hell they're doing.

>> No.413980

>>413895
Nice hat.

>> No.413998

>>413558
The cartoon wasn't so bad considering the quality of other video game cartoons...

>> No.414002

>>413737
>wrath of cortex
>literally the first one but better
why?

>> No.414009

>>413970
That snoring sound.

>> No.414043

>>413970
That moment when you realised Simon was Arnold Rimmer. For many of course it was an early realisation, but still. That moment.

>> No.414086

Chzo Mythos is one of the best horror adventure games series there is.

By that I'm stating how pitiful horror video game genre is.

>> No.414094

>>413143
Needs The Last Express in awesome at least.

>> No.414126

>>413183
Doesn't win 7 have the same problem with starforce?

>>413143
Funny, I'm a huge P'n'C fan, and have played a dozen games. But I never touched any Myst game, and now I just can't get it to work on win 7

>> No.414243

>>413515

oh yeah, the voice acting for the SOMI remastered edition is mostly rubbish apart from Dominic Armato as Guybrush and Earl Boen as LeChuck, they're always great

MI2's is excellent

>> No.414280

>>413172
man, if I could go back in time and play only TLJ... dreamfall sucks.

it ends on a HUGE cliffhanger with lots of loose ends. I can only imagine the rage of people who played it back in 2006. 2014, when dreamfall chapters comes out, will be 8 years of waiting for the story to conclude.

also, it has lame and nearly nonexistant gameplay. they should have sticked to P&C

>> No.414283

I never played LeChuck's revenge, but I remember Secret fondly. Did I fuck up?

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414413

>>413998
Yeah, but it could have been a lot better, even in a G format. Pic related, one of the most forced characters in the history of animation.
>Have to have someone for the kids to related to
Fuck no.
Earthworm Jim the animated series was better.

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414426

>>414086
Though it's not bad, it's far from the best when it comes to adventure games.

>> No.414438

>>413730

Torin's Passage is wonderful! I still have the CD-ROM and play it every now and then. :)

>> No.414498

>>413304
>playing monkey island on a console

There's your problem.

>> No.414520

>>414498
Um, no, console-izing the HUD is the problem. I'm playing it on the computer.

>> No.415219

>>413431
Sums me up quite well too.

>> No.415316

i liked escape from monkey island the music was really nice and you could shoot yourself in the past and cause a time paradox

>> No.415436

WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LIKE ME !

>> No.415645

>>415436
Probably because you're ugly.

>> No.416046

>>413254
This. If you don't like new graphics, the old school mode is literally one key press away.

>> No.416061

>>413320
The day I got through that puzzle I no longer feared any game.

>> No.416116

>>414283
Just play them in order again, what's stopping you?
Or skip the 1st if you feel like it.

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>>413143
I decided to expand upon this. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that I sometimes get an urge to catalog and graphic adventures are something I've played more of than the average person.

Hope someone gets a kick out of it, I guess.

>> No.418570

>>418542
why not make a more informative recommendation/introduction picture instead of pointless subjective tier lists?

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>>418570
That's... I'm going to do this.

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418610

>>418542
>Full Throttle being anything other than the highest of tiers

>> No.419665

>>418542
What about Discworld and Callahan's Crosstime Saloon?

Although I admit that the latter is not for everyone. The first major puzzle is the weakest part of the game, as far as I'm concerned.

>> No.419682
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>>414426
The days when you could just trace celebrity's faces and stick it in your game no problem.

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419684

Remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfT4j6ED3Lo

It's still stuck in my head, after all these years.

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> No mention of Zak McKracken.

What, why? Is this... too old for /vr/ or something?

>> No.419760

Completely agree with OP except for Curse. It should be on the "At Least you Tried" tier. Great animation and graphics, but overall scenarios started feeling dull and repetitive halfway. The puzzles aren't really great either. I also could never get used to voice-acted MI.

>> No.420019

>>418542
>Still no Last Express.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who played it on /vr/.

>> No.420137

>>419727
Not too old, probably just too obscure. I was a huge adventure fan myself in the early to late 90s, and I hadn't even heard of this until the internet came along in the late 90s.

>> No.420323

>>419684
Is that Boos or whathisname from Return to Zork?
I remember him. You could kill him with a knife or something IIRC.

>> No.420597

>>420323
Return to Zork was an adventure game with a weird open-world RPG sense of freedom, meaning you could kill anyone if you wanted, which really made no sense considering the type of game it is.

Anyway, I'm still nostalgic for it and other games like it and it would be kind of funny to see these indie developers making games just like it after they finally get tired of the 8-bit NES thing.

>> No.420617

>>420597
Yeah, it was kinda neat. The problem is if you did that, you'd usually permanently and irreversibly screw yourself over. Even if it didn't kill you, you wouldn't be able to complete the game.

>> No.420638

>>420617
>Even if it didn't kill you, you wouldn't be able to complete the game.
Exactly. It's a good feature in RPGs because even if you're closing off a side quest, you might be obtaining items from it and using it to finish the main quest. Or closing off the MAIN quest and just pursuing side quests, as Elder Scrolls fans like to do. An adventure game is a linear beast and it's kind of insane Infocom even made that possible in Return to Zork.

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420765

What does /vr/ think about this?, i think it deserves a try.

>> No.420780

>>420765
Supposed to be a genuinely good game.

>> No.420778

>>420765
Is that the one that is a bunch of minigames?
I remember playing one that was about spitting on people from the top of a building.

>> No.420794

>>420778
It has a couple minigames in it, but it's largely a point-and-click adventure.

>> No.420793

>>420765

I remember loving it as a kid, take that as you will.

>> No.420823

>>420794
Oh, I must be thinking of a different one then. Didn't know there was a B&B point & click adventure.

>> No.420834

>>420823
The company actually isolated those minigames afterward and offered them separately or on another CD-ROM.

>> No.421563

>Masterpiece tier
The voice acting in Sam and Max Hit the Road

>Great tier
The voice acting in the cartoon series

>What the fuck you fucked it up tier
The voice acting in Telltale's Sam and Max games (sorry, couldn't resist lol!)

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youth hides the key to salvation
one of the best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1WAA1lQ6vQ

>> No.421792

>>414043
I've only just had that moment.

Great merciful fuck.

>> No.421838

>>413143
>Myst IV worse than Myst V
>Myst V not "Shouldn't Exist" tier

End of Ages was total disappointing garbage. The tablet was gimmicky as fuck, the levels were short, the visuals were ugly due to procedural rendering, and both Yeesha and Esher were annoying.

Revelation wasn't great, but the only negative thing it really had against it was the acting. Uru and Myst V were honest attempts, but they took the series in an awful direction compared to the first 4.