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413036 No.413036 [Reply] [Original]

how the fuck is there still no translation of Romancing SaGa 1 and 2

it's 2013

Are they just bad or something? Are they not worth playing? Their systems seem crazy.

>> No.413091

Because Romancing SaGa 1's remake is in English and the SaGa series in general isn't a popular one outside of Japan. Romancing SaGa 2 is suppose to be great, but really hard.

>> No.413105

>>413036
From what I've heard RS1 and 2 are absolutely horrific messes of coding, and translating them without a proficent romhacker is a moot task. The few translations that were already underway have shipwrecked soon after they started and for some reason nobody's been able to salvage the already existing translation data.

That being said however, RS1 is at least somewhat possible to experience in english thanks to the RS: Minstrel Song remake. I'm dying to play RS2 though, from what I've seen and heard it looks like the best of the series.

>> No.413102

>>413091
I'm just amazed there are untranslated roms left at this point like, AT ALL. Let alone for a fucking Squaresoft RPG.

How did we get shit like After School in Beppin and Adventures of Hourai High before this?

>> No.413118

Kenji Ito soundtracks are so good.
You can just listen to those battle themes over and over again and they never get old.

>> No.413116

>>413105
well fuck

anyone know how to romhack?

>> No.413134

>>413118
For some reason I've never been able to get into the soundtracks despite loving the games. They seem to have this odd 'spaniardish' vibe that doesn't suit me well.

>> No.413186
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413186

>>413134
I personally like Spanish guitar, and in the Romancing SaGa remake I really like the song Passionate Rhythm. Personally I don't find the music in SaGa Frontier 2 or Unlimited Saga clicking with me as much as the other games, especially when it comes to battle music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1OsApDSIw

>> No.413203

>>413186
all I know is that every remix of the boss theme from RSG 1 has blown my face clear off

>> No.413218

>>413102
There are so many untranslated 16-bit rpgs. You have no idea.

>> No.413236

>>413218
But how many of those have been made by Square?

>> No.413246

>>413203
I agree, hell even the standard battle themes. I don't even know which one I like the most, but I do have a fondness of both Passionate Rhythm along with Believing My Justice. When they chime in it is just perfect.

It is also great when you meet with the corrupted elemental monsters and their battle theme crops up when they start to talk with you right before the fight. Hell I love Kenji Ito's battle music.

>> No.413262

>>413218
no don't say that I'll cry.

how can we be denied them still. am I going to have to learn to romhack.

I don't care if they're not that good. We must know. They must be there to play.

>> No.413257

>>413036
Well 1 has a remake so you could play that.

As for 2 well yeah nobody ever seems finish it all the way.

>> No.413253

>>413102
>How did we get shit like After School in Beppin and Adventures of Hourai High before this?

I think you just answered your own question

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413303

>>413186
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1OsApDSIw
I hope you enjoy that song, you're going to be listening to it for a while

>> No.413331

started thread about this a few weeks ago. got same answers. Glad to see new thread im with ya brother will keep posting about this until we get some results

>> No.413380
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413380

>>413303
All three times. I flipped out each of their fights. It couldn't have been implemented so perfectly.

>>413331
With that said why isn't SaGa Frontier 1 and 2 on PSN in the west? I know they have it in Japan. How much would it cost them to put it up since they don't think it would be worth it? It is one game I would love to recommend to people who post such threads but the SaGa games just aren't on there.

Also what I like about a lot of the remakes for the SaGa games is that they stay true to their source while still being refreshing with adding concepts that were in later games (RS: MS a prime example with combination attacks and glimmers), or just updating certain game mechanics (ridding of random encounters in SaGa 2 remake). It is one of the few, if only series that when I hear there will be a remake of a game I can actually get excited about it since they go the extra mile.

>> No.413434

OP's image looks seriously like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

is it the same artist?

>> No.413426

>>413380
>With that said why isn't SaGa Frontier 1 and 2 on PSN in the west?
Because they are not very well known I guess?

>> No.413448

>>413434
the designs look similar but the style itself is all wispy I dunno

>> No.413458
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413458

>>413426
I'd assume such games like Vagrant Story and even the PS1 Breath of Fire games would be niche as well (Vagrant Story more so). So I just don't know why they'd do such a thing.

>>413434
I don't see any connection within the artists history. They are made by Tomomi Kobayashi. I can't seem to pull much else on her through a quick Google search.

>> No.413487

>>413458
>So I just don't know why they'd do such a thing.
Who knows.

Blame SE.

>> No.413494

>>413487
>Blame SE.
I always will.

>> No.413520

>>413102
Do you have any idea how massive the SFC library is? There exist a whopping 1442 games, plus 231 games on Satellaview. Compare that to the 784 games the SNES got.(250 exclusive to NA and 63 exclusive to PAL)

We aren't even halfway yet.

>> No.413602

>>413520
I actually had no idea it was that massive. Wow.

There's still mysteries and obscurities and new frontiers to find in there. Magical.

>> No.413674
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413674

>>413602
To be fair, a lot of them are about betting on horses(They really seemed to like that for some reason) and Mahjong rehashes.

As for obscurities, ever heard of the Sufami Turbo? It was an official peripheral made by Bandai. 13 games were made for it on these small cartridges, and you could insert 2 of them at once to transfer save files/unlock stuff.

>> No.413735

>>413674
I did, I've read up on it and the BSX.

I mostly know about the Sufami Turbo because of that carranger game with surprisingly good music.

And yeah, it sounds like MAME, there's a thousand games but they're all fucking majohng or sports or horses. And beyond that there's probably a ton of shitty poorly made platformers.

But still. What gems yet await the western world?

>> No.413782

>>413674
>Mahjong rehashes
I once watched a video on SFC games.

Holy shit almost half the games were some from of this.

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413826

>>413735
There is still the sad case of Heisei Shin Onigashima. It's a pretty unique game where you follow a story and make decisions based on the dialogue. It is literally impossible to translate this game because all characters are in a top to down format.

>> No.413841

>>413826
Well, you could place english characters in a top down format, as awkward as it'd look, at least it'd be readable for us...

>> No.413926
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413926

>>413841
The problem with that approach is that japanese sentences can be written with much less characters than english sentences, and would require more extensive coding.

This game would be much harder to translate than Treasure of the Rudras, and that was an amazing feat.

>> No.413989

>>413926
That's a shame as that does look kinda neat.

>> No.414738

>>413926
Harder than Rudra? Just because of vertical formatting?

I'm baffled. I'm skeptical, even. If you can swing it for a horizontal rectangle you can swing it for a vertical rectangle....

>> No.414860

Wait, the third is completely translated? I heard it's only partial...

>> No.414959

>>414860
I think everything except the ending credits and some of the text in one of the minigames is translated, but the translation is crabstick quality.

>> No.414987

>>414860
There are two translations available, one almost full and one partial (though more accurate).

>> No.415070

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFOw90kjf1E

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415431

>>415070
I like the Alkaiser one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_N1TFWh7ac

Also as always Sif is awesome.
>Instead of a bouquet I'll throw my ax.

>> No.415530
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415530

Supposedly the code of both Romancing saga 1 & 2 is VERY hard to hack. It's a shame cause the music is really, really good. Gideon Zhi it's translating romancing saga 2 but he really likes to take his time doing these kind of things, but at least he recently uploaded an image of the progress he has been done (pic related)
Kenji ito is truly an exellent musician too, i personally like this song a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xUfROU0Mt0

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415635

>>413434
I don't see the similarity, even with his more recent style. OP's picture has a very "90's-ish", almost shoujo-like bishounen characters while Araki went from 80's muscular type to something different (related picture) while always being very distinctly unique.

>> No.415730
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415730

>>415530
Sea hopper.

>> No.415742

>>415730
What game is this from? Art style looks neat.

>> No.415746

>>415742
The Romancing SaGa remake for the PS2.

>> No.415770

>>415746
Oh wow, never knew there was a remake. Thanks.

>> No.415792

>>415770
No problem. They pretty much re-hauled the game so concepts in later games made it into the remake (glimmers, combination attacks, black smithing).

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416204

>>415792
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFOw90kjf1E
>tfw we will never get rom hacks of Romancing Saga 3 from Japanese hacking groups in English.

>> No.416273

>>416204
>You'll never get mercilessly raped by Chaos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE081HwTbw4