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4104423 No.4104423 [Reply] [Original]

ITT tell me about your experiences with the best 3rd generation console.
What are your favorite games, what are some hidden gems?
Can you believe it sounded like this in Japan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SJUE_X3F38&

>> No.4104431

>the best 3rd generation console
That doesn't look like NES to me though.

>> No.4104446

>>4104423
>the youtube link
Not a great example, Wonder Boy 3 wasn't exactly the toppest tier with it's FM music. There are games where the FM music truly blows away the PSG but this ain't one.

>> No.4104449

>>4104446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRoBMXRpHKI
Now this is what I'm talking about.

>> No.4104450
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>>4104449
Looks like a '70s prog rock band

>> No.4104451
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>>4104423
I'm still trying to find games on this thing I actually like. Guess I have to keep looking harder.

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>>4104450
Gloriously so.

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>>4104423
I had a NES in those days.

I remember seeing a commercial that said "wait until Phantasy Star comes out" and I never played it until a classmate lent me the Power Base Converter with the game. The game was as good as the commercial made it out to be. I have since played and enjoyed 4/End of the Millennium and Online.

My first interaction with the Master System (aside from seeing it in Toys R' Us) in actually playing one was at a friend of cousin's. I was jealous they got a more accurate to arcade port of Double Dragon than the one I had for NES. The did lend me the original Megaman for NES, which started my love for the series, and I eventually invited them to my place because people who loved video games back then were not as common. Those assholes stole some of my NES games, and my cousin was only able to recover one game for me. Basically Master System owners back then were little shits who wanted NES games.

I got a video game magazine from Kohls which turned out to be the first issue of EGM. It had Megaman 2 on the cover, and after the fun times I had with the first game, I had to get the 2nd when it came out. In that magazine, I saw a game called Mystic Defender which looked great in screenshots. Also had an image of some rad demon basketball game for the Master System. Now that I finally got a flash cart for the Genesis, I think I can try some Master System games for myself.

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>>4104450
>>4104465

>> No.4104758

>>4104423
What a shitty console

There's a few good games like the Mickey platformers and rastan but not much else

>> No.4104818

I loved the Master System. My original one had Sonic built in. Some of the later games look really great, like Aladdin and a great port of Shadow of the Beast. The 90s Master System games are definitely better than the 80s games. Master of Drakness, Ninja Gaiden, a good port of New Zealand Story, Sonic 1 and 2, the Mickey Mouse games, the Asterix games, Robocop vs The Terminator, Dracula, Batman Returns, Chase HQ, Forgotten Worlds. Lots of great games.
>>4104639
We're talking about the Master System, there are plenty of threads where you can ramble about your Nes.

>> No.4104898

>>4104818
>My original one had Sonic built in
You fucking what now? Was that a thing? I remember Master System as only having the bios snail maze and the SMS 2 had Alex Kidd onboard.

>> No.4104902

>>4104423

>Best 3rd generation console

Factually wrong. The NES was the best by a landslide.

>> No.4104904

>>4104902
I see humour is something that doesn't come naturally to you.

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>>4104898
Master System 2 with Sonic built in was what I had. It was definitely a thing.
>>4104902
I disagree.

>> No.4104957

My oldest experience I remember was my dad playing Tecmo World Cup 93, I loved the introduction of the game and I wanted to play football later this game probably had its responsability.
My oldest memory of my playing it was on Alex Kidd in Miracle World, I used to struggle against the monster with the bubbles in the first level. But one day, I discovered you can pass above, it took me a long time but I was so happy. After that the new place I struggled was the first boss. I used to give the pad to my mom she'd go to the cave.
I probably was 3 yo at that time and I still have it in my room.

Oh and because of me my dad bought After Burner with the joystick, I absolutely wanted a game with a plane, it wasn't After Burner that I saw in the adds but I loved this game.

>> No.4105053

>>4104446
How can you say no to that delicious bassline?

Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcZt-5dBD_4

>> No.4105272
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4105272

>>4104451
Either you're not looking good enough, or you have poopy taste. Here, I'll help you out a bit...

Best overall:
Penguin Land
Golden Axe Warrior
Fantasy Zone II
Battle Out Run
Dragon's Trap

Some good platformers:
Alex Kidd MW/SW
Sonic 1&2
Master of Darkness
Ninja Gaiden
Donald Duck 1&2
Asterix/Secret Mission

Fun Arcade Ports:
Alex Kidd's Lost Stars
Dynamite Dux
Hang On
The Ninja
Columns
Renegade
Wonder Boy
Rastan
Ghouls 'n Ghosts
R-Type

>> No.4105397

>>4105272
How dare you forgot Outrun? And After Burner? Dude I could kill you if you were in front of me. And no place for Psychic World? Neither Psycho Fox? Zillion 2? Phantasy Star?
You are looking for problems. I can not accept this. Don't be surprised if someone try to kill you soon.

>> No.4105402

And where is Shinobi? Lucky you I'm drunk enough so I didn't realize immediately.
You forgot way to many goty games to be forgiven

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>>4105272
>Battle Out Run

My nigga

>> No.4105441

NES library >>>>>>>>>> SMS library.

The NES has:

Super Mario Bros 1-3
Legend of Zelda 1 and 2
Mega Man 1-6
Castlevania 1-3
Tecmo Super Bowl
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out
Ducktales
Contra
Ice Hockey
Blades of Steel
Kirby's Adventure
Bionic Commando
Ninja Gaiden 1-3

>> No.4105461
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4105461

I owned an NES (like almost everyone in that generation) but I had a friend of mine in the mid 90's (1994-1996, then he moved away) who owned one. I remember when we called Video Game Exchange to see if we could trade it and the games for a Playstation and the dude on the other line laughed his ass off.

ANYWAY, though we mainly played SNES at my house - we still really enjoyed his Master System. Choplifter was a really fun game as were the Wonder Boy games. The controllers were strange that he had as the joystick was on the right side of the controller. It didn't take long to get used to them.

Besides Choplifter and the Wonder Boy games, I can't remember a single other game we played on it. It was weird playing this video game system that no one had ever heard of.

>> No.4105463

First console I've owned.

Altered Beast
Mortal Kombat
Ecco the Dolphin
Sonic the Hedgehog

later games were

Shining Force
Comic Zone
Adventures of Batman and Robin
Rocket Knight Adventures

I was more than content

>> No.4105465

>>4105441
NES is overrated. Master System is underappreciated and has a ton of hidden gems.

>> No.4105473

>>4105461
You had the arcade pad, never tried it but of what I've heard of; it wasn't good.
Honestly, I only had one original joypad but the d-pad broke around 2005, since then, I only used non-official pad, I even manage to buy the same as I had and it is really good. It's a pad for Megadrive (3 button) but I just love the d-pad.
>>4105441
Honestly, there's a good alternative for almost any game you listed. I don't know all these games but for most of them, I could suggest you just as good on the SMS.

>> No.4105479

>>4105465
To be honest, it also depends of where you lived, if I remember right, there was like 50 games on the japanese version, 150 on the american one and a slightly more than 300 in Europe and Brazil.

>> No.4105528

The best 8-bit versions of Ultima 4 and Populous are on the Master.

>> No.4105698

>>4105397
Psychic World is good, but it's not an SMS original, so it triggers my 'tism. Phantasy Star is alright, but I'm not bigly into jarpigs. Psycho Fox has irritating physics. After Burner plays like crap on the Master, the best AM2 port on the SMS was Hang On and GP Rider. Never really played Zil2 but the first one was a "meh"troid (see what I did there?),

>> No.4105706

>>4105698
True for Psychic World.
Psycho Fox's physics didn't annoyed me but I can't even remember the last time I played it.
After Burner I really love it, as long as you have the joystick the game is really nice, of course it is a big downgrade of the arcade version, but the game is really good especially if we consider its release date.
I liked hang-on but it was way too easy IMO.
Zillion 2 was more action oriented than the first one.

>> No.4105787

>>4104423
It was always that weird outlier that I knew existed but had never seen in real life and no one I knew had one.

>> No.4106110

Why do Americans ruin every Master System thread? We don't care about your Nes, we don't care that you thought it was unpopular, we don't even care about bloody Phantasy Star. Why do you have to force your stupid culture into everything?

>> No.4106115

>>4106110
if op wasn't such an autistic yuropoor then maybe amerifats wouldn't counterattack m8

>> No.4106201

>>4106110
Because this is an American site, so you're obviously going to get a bunch of murrkan shitposters. If you want a European safespace, make your own imageboard.

>> No.4106264

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cf6WPpkIkw&t=2m30s

>ninpo overflow glitch
Jesus Sega, don't you bug test your games?

>> No.4106283

>>4106110
Maybe it was OP's fault for opening with "best 3rd gen console". He was asking for console war bullshit.
>>4106201
>this is an American site
It's japanese now.

>> No.4106431

Bought one, loved the look, realized that most of the library is ports of arcade games that have since gotten superior ports, sold it. The SMS just didn't get the third party support to be worth playing nowadays. .

>> No.4106432

>>4106283
>It's japanese now.
Hiro doesn't give a fuck about the site and the administration team is still largely american.

>> No.4106434

>>4106264
Hated this, the runner is just trashing the game. Why even speedrun a game that you think is shit.

>> No.4106440

>>4106434
Ironic speedrunning is the newest epic meme.

>> No.4106442

>>4106432
>the administration team is still largely american.
Source?
Also Hiro made the best aprils fools, better than any moot ever did.
Moot was such a memekid to be honest. Hiro is older, has experience with chan boards (of course) and just has a more fitting sense of humor.

>> No.4106446

>>4106442
source is common sense

>> No.4106447

>>4106440
He should run Ninja Gaiden 3 US if he wanted a challenge. Even without scorch wheel spam SMS Ninja Gaiden is still easier than the Nintendo games.

>> No.4106465

>>4106431
Most of the 90s games weren't arcade ports. You did get a Master System 2, right?

>> No.4106468

>>4106447
The Nes ones were made by Tecmo, actually.

>> No.4106473 [DELETED] 

>>4106468
Yeah sure. I know, I suck at communicating.

>> No.4106482

>>4106468
Yeah I know that, I suck at communicating.

>> No.4106497

>>4104423
aww, that's cute.

Here's what a real synth sounds like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APQPRlnEAzY

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>>4106497
>comparing a 32-bit computer with an 8-bit console

>> No.4106753 [DELETED] 

>>4105479
oh so that's why americans on here always call it the worst console of all time. same with the Saturn. damn burgers and their stupid nintendos

>> No.4107587 [DELETED] 

Anyone else prefer the Master System to the Exodus?

>> No.4107597

No love for Black Belt? Or for the mind-boggling Streets of Rage port?

>> No.4107635

Putt Putter and Golfamania are really fun sports games for the Mark IV.

>> No.4107784

>>4106264
His entire argument for why its bad is
>The hit boxes aren't the same
True he said they're weird, but that's not exactly true. The hit boxes work just fine, he's just complaining that it isn't the same.
>Everything in this stops your momentum
Yeah, that's true enough. You're complaining about Speed running a game that doesn't speed run, though. Whats more retarded here? You for continuing to bitch about it, or the game, for not conforming to your speed running requirements?
>complains about a guy who randomly jumps and fires
You're complaining about enemies that are in a game you're playing. I can't take this guy seriously.

>> No.4107789

>>4107784
Just imagine being a poor sms fan, staying up late to watch his favorite console being run just to see this asshole bash it left and right. Being a Sega guy is suffering.

>> No.4107886

>>4107789
Are they any nicer towards Sega at European Speedster Assembly? Because in the yank speedrun community, they shit on Sega a lot.

>> No.4107897

>>4107886
>they shit on Sega a lot
Source? 1 guy mentioning flaws on Ninja Gaiden doesn't represent the whole community, also he wasn't shitting at Sega, he was just commenting about flaws in one game.

>> No.4107908

>>4106497
aww, that's cute.

Here's what a real synth sounds like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEQdUPcu_j0

>> No.4107916

>>4107897
Well, off the top of me head, most Castlevania runners absolutely despise Bloodlines. Contra runners aren't that fond of Hard Corps, either.

>> No.4107965

>>4107916
Bloodlines isn't as catlevany feel compared to any other classicvania (excluding the really awful ones) it feels more like an average genesis side scroller.

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>>4104423
>ITT tell me about your experiences with the best 3rd generation console.

Okay. What specifically do you want to hear about pic related?

>> No.4108562

>>4108491
Did you own one? Were these popular? I think I've heard mention of Atari after the original once and then never again. Strengths? Weaknesses? Good games?

>> No.4108586

>>4108491
Any good non-ports for the 7800 I should check out?

>> No.4108604

>>4105272
>I forgot fucking Columns

I love Columns, what the fuck is wrong with me? I should have known the Master System had one. Thank you, anon. I admit I didn't look very hard, I am a fool.

>> No.4109134

I grew up with a Sega Master System II we bought when I was about three or four years old. It still works, but the sound has some issues, so I've bought a Sega Master System with composite which has way better image. Games still play nicely. I've been playing Wonder Boy III, but I quit yesterday after dying to the final boss, man that fight is hard.

I only had 12 games, but I used to borrow some games from friends. It feels kind of weird buying them now. They're pretty cheap compared to NES games though, but the console is a bit pricy.

>> No.4109504

Any good Master System homebrew games worth checking out?

>> No.4109535

>>4107916
They sound like fags

I have a question about Master Systems, help plz:

I got a Genesis flashcart and tried to play Monster Lair, but my guy won't move, he just twitches back and forth rapidly. He stops if I unplug the controller, but, I tried two controllers, no change. Other games work fine. Can you solve this mystery?

>> No.4109568

>>4108586
Midnight Mutants is the only good original game and its still a mediocre Zelda clone, about as good as Golden Axe Warrior for the SMS.

>> No.4110765

Can we all agree that NES wins in terms of quantity, but Master System is easily superior in quality when you compare its best games to NES' best games?

>> No.4110827

>>4110765
I'd say they are similar in quality, I prefer the Master System though.

>> No.4110850

>>4110765
I don't think so, NES has a lot of good games, and not limited to 1st party only.

>> No.4110853

>>4104423
It was my very first console. I bought it to play shinobi and wonderboy at home. The magic didnt last very long as both games are pretty dull compared to the real thing. The funny thing is i kinda got hooked on the built in hang on. Sold it after 6 months and got a mega drive instead. Missed hang on after, lol.

>> No.4111494

How come the SMS doesn't have any original strategy games, beat 'em ups, puzzle games, or sims? Seems like the only genre it did well was platformers.

>> No.4111514

>>4110765
I can't say that. I can think of a handful of games I like (all regions) a lot, and I wouldn't have them beat the NES's top stuff. I haven't played some games that are fairly well regarded though, like The Ninja or Rastan.
>Sonic 1 (great, really solid platformer)
>Sonic Chaos (too fucking easy though, even by Sonic standards)
>Hang On (smooth and satisfying)
>R-Type (amazing port for the hardware)
>Space Harrier (ugly as sin port, but it's surprisingly okay, and features Haya-Oh as the true final boss)
Oh, and Shinobi (and Alex Kidd in Shinobi World).

There's other good stuff too (I tried Asterix once and it seemed pretty good, but I haven't played it since).
Galaxy Force on SMS is kind of sort of okay,

still dunno why anyone likes Battle Out Run

>>4105397
After Burner SMS would actually be okay but [actual spoiler:] you can just hold left for like 12 stages and nothing will hurt you once. It's kind of hard to legitimately play the game when you know this, since you'll naturally tend to the left because it's safer.
Outrun has awful janky slope transitions and I hate it on SMS for that.
I played Psycho Fox for like ten minutes and never wanted to touch it again. It handles like ass.

>>4104450
I wish this game was good.

>> No.4111524

>>4111514
>I wish this game was good.
It's better than Phantasy Star and any NES JRPG.

>> No.4111618

>>4111514
True for After Burner, that's why I loved this game so much when I was kid, it felt like I was super good.
I played Outrun after talking about it here and yes slope transitions are really bad.
Another good game is Astro Warrior, but I don't think it was release in cartdrige and it wasn't built-in in my Master System. So it's only what I've read about.
Fantasy Zone was a solid port too.

>> No.4114184

Any good platformy run 'n guns for this console?

>> No.4114464

>>4114184
Shinobi I guess counts. Honestly unlike the NES there were maybe one or two good games per genre on the SMS, if that.

>> No.4114487

>>4114464
there are nearly 300 games on this console
http://www.jeuxcollector.fr/fullset-listes/394-fullset-master-system-pal

>> No.4114497

So I'm confused. Did Aleste come out on SMS or MSX first?

>> No.4114503

>>4104423
I enjoy the quality of bait you post.

>> No.4114516
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>mfw United "56% White" Statesians always have to take a shit on Sega's best console

>> No.4114528

>>4114516
Never change, straylia-kun.

>> No.4114550

>>4114516
>If you don't fellate Sega's worst main console, you're a yank
Nah, enjoy your piss poor arcade ports australia.

>> No.4114571

>>4114550
>worst we aren talking about the Saturn

>> No.4114609

Everyone knows Dreamcast is the worst. Too many arcade and PC ports, gimmicky and "experimental" games that were shit, and it had a terrible third-party since Sega scared everyone off by killing the Saturn early.

>> No.4114614

>>4114571
At least Saturn had good arcade ports, unlike the masturd system

>> No.4114651

>>4104423
Isn't that what Brazilians resorted to because their country outlawed video games?
Also what Europeans resorted to because they're weirdos and Nintendo didn't give a shit about their market?

Yeah, real great games. Can barely find one worth playing, especially exclusives. Wonder Boy 3 is its best and it's not even close to as good as Metroid, a game barely in the top 20 list for the NES.

Block Dude on a TI-86 has better gameplay and controls than Alex Kidd. Most SMS games beg to be turned off in the first 5 minutes from stiff, awkward handling that punishes your brain with anti-fun.

Sega fanboys are delusional.

>> No.4114783
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4114783

Stop bullying the Sensei System!!!

>> No.4114845

>>4114184
Robocop vs The Terminator

>> No.4114894

If brazil has a fuckin million of these things and apparently still produces them (if thats bullshit let me know), why are they so expensive?

>> No.4115035

I had the 1st Master System with Hang-On/Safari Hunt built in. They offered Double Dragon for free, but you had to send off the proof of purchase to get it. Also got Phantasy Star for it, which was in fact, more expensive than the system. SMS Rampage kicks the shit out of the NES version.

>> No.4115061

>>4114184
Rambo (secret command in yurop) and The ninja are good.

>> No.4115063

>>4115061
sorry i forgot the platformy part

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Did you know? The first Cabal-like shooter wasn't Cabal, it was the Master System's Comical Machine Gun Joe.

>> No.4117470

>>4114894
Seriously, can anyone tell me why these go for around $70-80 if it is apparently the #1 console of brazil?

>> No.4117627

>>4104423
Amerifag here
Only ever saw one in my life. I'm an Army brat and a friend of mine's family had been stationed somewhere overseas and had one from there.

I got the impression that the hardware was better than an NES but it somehow had fuck all for games

>> No.4117640

>>4114894
Sellers like to act like it's rare though specifically because of it not being an NES.
A fucking half million have been sold in Brazil every year for the past 30 years yet they are "rare"...