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This is the ideal Castlevania. You may not like it, but this is what peak game design looks like.

>> No.4103474

fuck off with your stale memes

>> No.4103476
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>> No.4103480

>>4103472
It should have been either called Super Castlevania(no numbers) or Demon Castle Dracula outside of Japan. Oh, and the fact that NOA and NOE ordered blood either removed or turned green is just stupid.

>> No.4103483

>>4103472
*Blocks your path*

>> No.4103552

>>4103480
Yeah, CV4 is actually, what, the eighth CV game?

>> No.4103615
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>>4103472
So "peak game design" means easy now? This probably wasn't even supposed to be trolling was it?

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>>4103615
>le 4 is too easy meme

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>>4103472
This is the ideal Castlevania. You may not like it, but this is what peak game design looks like.

>> No.4103659

>>4103635
lel no, Bloodline fags are always the most obnoxious 3 is best

>> No.4103661

>>4103635
>Tower of Pisa
>good game design
Bruv...

>> No.4103663
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>>4103659
This is the ideal Castlevania. You may not like it, but this is what peak game design looks like.

>> No.4103724

>>4103661
whats wrong with that level the flood part is awesome plays like a clocktower level but with some urgency

>> No.4103731

>>4103724
The flood parts in stage 2 and the medusa tower and platforming around the tower in stage 3 sucked, but the rest of the game's level design is alright.

>> No.4103735

>>4103724
>clocktower
>no stairs

You just need to jump and nothing else, the medusa heads won't even try to touch you if you jump in time when the platforms above appear.
The "platforming" surrounding the tower is even worse though. I like the flying enemies but they could be a bit less obvious in their pattern.

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4103737

This is the ideal Castlevania. You may not like it, but this is what peak game design looks like.

>> No.4103847
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4103847

This is the ideal Castlevania. You may not like it, but this is what peak game design looks like.

>> No.4103851

>>4103847
>>4103737
this is starting to become a mini-meme

>> No.4103860

>>4103472
EIGHT WAY WIPPAN

>>4103737
This and the stacking block section were just obnoxious.

>> No.4103865

>>4103737
That god that level is optional.

>> No.4103931

I think we all know that Symphony of the Night is the best castlevania

>> No.4103937
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>>4103931
This is the ideal Castlevania. You may not like it, but this is what peak game design looks like.
I got you senpai :^)

>> No.4103941

>>4103937
>posting a Metroid game in a Castlevania thread

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>>4103941
Severe down syndrome: the post.

>> No.4103949

>>4103946
Sorry you have terrible taste and aren't good enough at games to appreciate real Castlevanias, famalamadingdong.

>> No.4103959

>>4103949
How the fuck is >>4103937
a Metroid game!?

>> No.4103983

>>4103959
Obviously is Metriod without her outfit you idiot.

>> No.4103991

>>4103983
NO you are the idiot. Metroid is not something that takes place in the Middle Ages. Castlevania does.

>> No.4104019

>>4103991
>muh aesthetics
SotN is pretty much just a Metroid game, with some RPG bullshit tacked on.

>> No.4104021

>>4103991
Jesus Christ, do you even know how wormholes work?

>> No.4104026

>>4104021
Oh, thank you for that reminder about wormhole time travel.

>> No.4104027

>You may not like it
Are you kidding? The chandeliers part is amazing, it's a short intermission for stage 6 anyway, but it's short and sweet. I love the music too.

>> No.4104534

>>4103626
Go ahead and name me an easier classicvania.

>> No.4104579

>>4103851
ikr? lol, so epic! you should start parrotting it now so everyone will know how totally hip and in touch with 4chan culture you are.

>> No.4104587

>>4104534
Uh, SotN?

>> No.4105114

>>4104534
I guess it depends on each person, but I find Rondo and Bloodlines to be on par (if not easier) than 4.
I also think Castlevania 1 is fairly easy, but probably that's because I've played it a lot of times. In fact, that's probably why we find all those games easy, we've played them a lot.
A newcomer will find any of them harder than the average game.

>> No.4105309

>>4104534
Rondo of Blood. Bible wrecks bosses, and the platforming is very basic and boring.

>> No.4105314
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This is the ideal Castlevania. You may not like it, but this is what peak game design looks like.

>> No.4105315

>>4105314
RACIST

>> No.4105363

>>4104587
>classicvania
Of course the metroid clones are easy as fuck

>> No.4105803 [DELETED] 

>>4105309
You don't even *need* sub items to be OP in 4. The whip is already too good for any of the sub weapons to matter. Oh and full jump control? Christ that game is trash...

>> No.4105806 [DELETED] 

>>4105803
Nice memes, but the full air control is even more broken on Rondo with the fact that you can do backflips and moonwalk.
I mean, look at speedruns of Rondo, doing backflips is faster than walking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOKkDRx30rk
And the guy abuses the moonwalk mechanic.
I mean, that's not even a bad thing at all, I like both Rondo and IV, thankfully I'm not some sexless poser who tries to get e-credit for being "hardcore" on a taiwanese paintings board, but still.

>> No.4105810

>>4105803
Nice memes, but the full air control is even more broken on Rondo with the fact that you can do backflips and moonwalk.
I mean, look at speedruns of Rondo, doing backflips is faster than walking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tm6d6H2sRA
And the guy abuses the moonwalk mechanic.
I mean, that's not even a bad thing at all, I like both Rondo and IV, thankfully I'm not some sexless poser who tries to get e-credit for being "hardcore" on a taiwanese paintings board, but still.

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4105815

that's cute sweetie. Now let the adults handle the thread

>> No.4105823

>>4105815
>easiest classicvania ever
>adults
Well I guess adults don't have enough time to get good at games so they choose the easiest ones. Enjoying those autoscrollers yet gramps?

>> No.4105829

>>4105823
>because a game isn't as hard as CV1 or CV3 it's bad!
I bet you have a hateboner for Rondo as well

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>>4105810
>I mean, that's not even a bad thing at all, I like both Rondo and IV, thankfully I'm not some sexless poser who tries to get e-credit for being "hardcore" on a taiwanese paintings board, but still.

This might be the most tryhard post I've seen here all summer.

>>>/school/

>> No.4106008

>>4105947
It's just autist-kun, he gets triggered when anyone shows the slightest sign of subjectivity toward games.

>> No.4106061

>>4105947
>>4106008
t. triggered poser "hardcore" e-gamers who want credit online from other anonymous people but they never even break any record

>> No.4106084

>>4106061
I'll have you know I have the WR time in Amigavania any%, champ.

>> No.4106286

>>4103626
It is the only reasonable complaint you can make about the game.

>> No.4106290

>>4106286
Only 1/3 of the game can be considered easy, and most of the bosses. Then again, most of the bosses in most CV games are really easy, too.
Then again as >>4105810 said, maybe we just find it easy because we've played a lot of CV games, if you come from the NES games, then the 16-bit games will seem easier (except for DX SNES)

>> No.4106293

>>4106286
It's my main complaint, really.

>> No.4106304
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CV4 and RoB are my favorites, and yes I've beaten CV1 (both loops), CVIII (all paths), X68K (all 6 loops) and Dracula X (all paths, all maidens).
Fuck Haunted Castle though.

>> No.4106310 [DELETED] 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lASzhXSD5us

>> No.4106339

>>4106304
Now do a naked MSXvania run.

LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

>> No.4106346

>>4105315
How is a chibi artstyle racist?

You're just being anti-Japanese now.

>> No.4106385
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>>4103472
This is the ideal Castlevania. You may not like it, but this is what peak game design looks like.

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>>4106385
Agreed, Dracula X is true castleki-
>that filter

>> No.4106410

>>4106404
I know it looks like trash here, but believe it or not it looks better that way when it's in motion and I'm sitting much further from the screen.

>> No.4106423

>>4106404
technically, it's an overlay

>> No.4106430

>>4106404
You may not like it, but this is what peak game filters looks like.

>> No.4106673

For me the ideal castlevania doesn't really exist.
It woud be a game like castlevania IV, but with the graphics and music of SOTN, and the character choice of castlevania III.

>> No.4107286

>>4103472
bloodlines was superior.

>> No.4107307

>>4107286
>slowdowns even though supposed "Blast processing" claim
>autoscrollers
>diagonal whipping done wrong
>boring boss fights
It's an okay game but not superior to any of the other 16-bitvanias.

>> No.4107315

>>4107307

>diagonal whipping meme
>not picking Eric

It's the best CV game.

>> No.4107319

>>4107315
>playing Castlevania with anything other than a whip user.

>best CV game
Again, it's good, but not even close to being the best of the 4th gen, let alone the best in the series.

>> No.4107324

>>4107319

But it's fun to jump around on his spear.

>> No.4107332

>>4107324
>fun
Where do you think you are?

>> No.4107505

>>4107307
>It's an okay game but not superior to any of the other 16-bitvanias.
Superior to IV, not superior to the others.

>> No.4107806

>>4107505
You'd think a game released a few years after IV would indeed would be superior, but not even. Bloodlines is the worst of the 16-bit CVs. But don't jump on my neck, I'm not saying it sucks, being the worst 16-bit CV doesn't mean it's a bad game.

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>>4107806
Bloodlines feels like the proper first 16-bit step for Castlevania except that it came out in '94. If it and IV would switch release dates I doubt we would have nearly as much shit posting about these two titles.

>> No.4109423

>>4103626
Every new video game system, they make most game series sequels get easier.

Normies made video games mainstream by being easy, all the overrated sequals of any francise is easy.

Skill got replaced over time by entertainment level.

>> No.4109707

>>4109154

I don't mind Bloodlines at all. I love that game. Played it a lot at a friends house. Now, I got a hankering for that game again.

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>>4109707
>I don't mind Bloodlines at all. I love that game.
It's easily in my top 3 for Castlevania. I understand why fans of the series are so divided when it comes to Bloodlines tho.


>Now, I got a hankering for that game again.
Funny you should say that. I've been playing it on and off since yesterday. The animated series got me hyped af :^) and Bloodlines is the Castlevania I reached for.

>> No.4110012

>>4106304
Help me get rondo of blood running senpai. The psp version stops working when you rescue people and the pc engine roms are corrupted.

>> No.4110565

>>4109797

For me it was SotN. I could easily pop in the original or Simon's Quest, but there are too many elements of SoTN that are in the cartoon that made me go for that one.

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how has nobody brought up the only fucking 100% sensibly designed classicvania did seriously nobody play this game

>> No.4110591

>>4110583
>waaaah we want new classicvania
>game comes out, nobody gives a shit

>> No.4110601

>>4110583
How's this emulatable on Dolphin?

>> No.4110602

>>4110583
All of the Rebirth games are fucking incredible, although the Gradius one is a little too easy.

>> No.4110615

>>4110601
just find a wad file of it

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>>4110583
>autoscrollers
IT'S TRASH SON.

>> No.4110637

>>4110636
It's not that bad.

>> No.4111142

>>4109797
Update for anyone that cares.

Beat it on normal with John. Started playing expert with Eric and left off at the beginning of the Germany stage. I'll pick back up tonight.

I gotta ask something to all the Bloodlines fans out there. Other than wanting to play with the traditional whip, does anyone prefer John over Eric? His swinging technique is hardly used or useful unlike Eric's high jump.

>> No.4111310

>>4111142

More of a challenge.

>> No.4111468

>>4111142
I don't like how either of them control that much, but I always play as John because it plays like castlevania, I always found Eric's spear attack to be laggy, I guess it's to emphasize how the spear is heavier than the whip.
To be honest, yeah, the swinging is hardly used, but the high jump is also barely necessary other than that part on the tower of pisa. It's like they tried to implement new things to the CV formula, but it didn't go hand in hand with the level design.

>> No.4111820

Too easy which is a flaw.

>> No.4113269

>>4111468
>but the high jump is also barely necessary other than that part on the tower of pisa.

It's useful(or cheap depending on how you view it) in other areas unlike johns swing. I was able to practically skip the vertical gear area in Germany with his high jump. Playing with Eric is definitely playing with the game on easy.

>It's like they tried to implement new things to the CV formula, but it didn't go hand in hand with the level design.

Pretty much how I see it also. Could of done a lot more with it making playing as both characters more unique.

Made it to France where I promptly died. I always suck at the first section of this stage due to those swinging fucks. I'll try again tonight.

>> No.4113271

>>4111468
The high jump has a ton of invincibility frames making a bunch of bosses trivial.

>> No.4113741

>>4103615
Difficulty has nothing to do with the quality of game design. I know such a shocking revelation might give your geriatric heart a jolt because this is /vr/ and people have to feel special for playing hard old video games but the truth is the truth.

>> No.4113742

>>4104579
You sound angry.

>>4105314
This one's actually correct.