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4087534 No.4087534 [Reply] [Original]

What drives people on this board to hate this company?

>> No.4087536

>people on this board
It's just one shitposter that has a hateboner for them because they made games for Nintendo and a few /stg/ contrarian hipsters.

>> No.4087537

>>4087534
too popular

>> No.4087539

>>4087536
>they made games for Nintendo
You mean Sega, right? 80% of their retro games were for Sega consoles, so I can see Nintendo fanboys not caring for them much.

>> No.4087540

>>4087536
>one
Nope.

>> No.4087541

>>4087536
Didn't future Treasure members technically work on Contra 3 and Super Castlevania IV?

>> No.4087542

>>4087539
Yeah that's the logical thought, but there was one guy who gave the reason for him hating treasure to be that "nintendo fans like them".

>> No.4087558

>>4087542
You made that conspiracy theory up, nigga. Reality is people are just sick of seeing you treasurefags circlejerk over their less than mediocre games

>> No.4087563

>>4087558
>You made that conspiracy theory up, nigga.
I didn't, there was a thread to discuss Treasure, and the only arguments anti-Treasure guys had was "overrated", and "nintendo fanboys like them".
>Reality is people are just sick of seeing you treasurefags circlejerk over their less than mediocre games
Well, maybe people are also just as sick of seeing you anti-treasurefags having a hateboner for no apparent reason other than being contrarians.

>> No.4087570

Treasure fans have a weird victim complex where they think their games are hated more than they actually are.

Like there's this idea that the shmup community hates Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga, but you'd have trouble finding anyone who has a more hateful opinion than "Dodonpachi/Garegga is better".

>> No.4087576

>>4087570
>shmup community
Nah, just the guys who post here and on /vg/, who don't actually play much videogames, just shitpost all day.

>> No.4087586

>>4087563
That doesn't make any sense. Their only nintendo games was wario world, sin and punishment 1 and 2 and mischief makers.

>> No.4087592

>>4087534
I don't . Some "hardcore" gamers try too hard.

>> No.4087593

>>4087586
I know that it doesn't make sense, but that's what I've read man.
The same guy who said that was also very angry that people liked Mischief Makers and mentioned Smash Bros thread (back when people were still with that ballot thing)

>> No.4087594

>>4087563
>for no apparent reason
HOLY SHIT you just can't accept the thought that someone might not like your favorite shitty boss rush run 'n gun game. They must be UNANIMOUSLY perfect.

>> No.4087598

>>4087594
There's a difference between not liking, and having a hateboner.
There's people here who go out of their way to shitpost about Treasure every single chance they get.

For example, I don't care for, say, Doom, but I don't go to the general to shitpost all the time. Get it?

>> No.4087604

>>4087598
Sure is summer outisde.

>> No.4087609

>>4087604
It is in your region? Good, go out and have fun with friends. :^)

>> No.4087619

>>4087542
Probably just baiting. Any true SEGA fan would love Treasure.

>> No.4087620

>>4087534
What drives Treasurefags to make threads like this?

>> No.4087621

>>4087620
>>/vr/thread/S4087323

Here's why.

>> No.4087626

>>4087621
Fpbp, CAVE *is* the most overrated company.

>> No.4087634

>>4087621
>Treashit
I liked his other slur, Trashure, more.

>> No.4087639

>>4087634
Both seem like something an elementary school kid would come up with.

>> No.4087640

>>4087639
The precious part is you still got offended by it

>> No.4087641

>>4087640
Just because I pointed out your infantile humor doesn't mean it gets me offended, don't get so hopeful anon.

>> No.4087646

>>4087641
Why is it so hard to believe someone might dislike your favorite company?

>> No.4087671

>>4087641
t. offended treasurefag

>> No.4087674

>>4087646
>>4087671
I wasn't talking about liking or disliking Treasure, I was just commenting about the infantile humor, I'd say the same if someone said "Segashit" or "Nintenshit", it reeks of underage /v/ posters.

>> No.4087675

Y'all niggas, just because someone said your game is shit does not detract from the quality of the game. It does not magically make it suck or force you to enjoy it less. There is nothing wrong with crtiicism

>> No.4087681

>>4087675
Criticism is great, in fact I can point many flaws in Treasure games.
The problem with anti-Treasure guys is that they lack a critique sense, they just call it shit and that's it.

>> No.4087683

>>4087681
Again, why does a juvenile slur offend you so much? Just ignore them, dude, they're teasing you.

>> No.4087693

>>4087683
When did I said it offended me? I was just replying to this anon: >>4087634

>> No.4087720

After you play Alien Soldier/Gunstar Heroes, you have two options: admit that every other run and gun is lazy and uninspired, or attack Treasure. It's the same with Ikaruga and shmups. The creativity Treasure brought to game design is challenging for insecure people. No other company gets attacked the way they do because no other company made games the way they did.

I don't waste my time with second-rate games. Elitist? So what?

>> No.4087724

>>4087720
I genuinely don't like weapon switching in Alien Soldier, it's slow and imprecise. Sure you can get used to it and I did.

>> No.4087749

>>4087720
Gunstar on the same level as Alien Soldier and Ikaruga? Assuming you're not baiting and just using hyperbole, I'm curious to why you think that.

>> No.4087754

>>4087724
The dash is even worse. On most bosses it's a "get out of jail free" card and trivializes them.

>> No.4087764

>>4087720
Don't forget Mischief Makers (best use of grappling in a 2D sidescroller), Sin & Punishment (a unique blend of run 'n gun and rail shooter), Bangai-O (literally its own genre) and Yu Yu Hakusho (first four-player fighter).

Treasure... is brilliant.

>> No.4087770

>>4087754
yeah if you lock a boss against the corner of the screen and hit him with a burning dash it totally rapes their health bar in seconds

>> No.4087774

>>4087764
Yu Yu Hakusho is shit. OH SORRY DIDN'T MEAN TO TRIGGER YOU FEMANON I'M SO SORRY I'LL REFRAIN FROM RAPING YOU WITH OPINIONS

>> No.4087905

>>4087774
Sure, if you tourneyfag it, but as a casual brawl with friends it's amusing.

>> No.4087912

Shitposting aside, is there a single retro Treasure game that can be considered actually bad, broken or unplayable?
The only one that comes to mind might be the Working Designs version of Silhouette Mirage for PS1, but that's WD's fault, not Treasure.

>> No.4087924

>>4087912
Gunstar Heroes is pretty buggy and a lot of the game just feels like a tech demo to me. Still wouldn't call it bad, though.

>> No.4087926
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>>4087534
Because people like you are easy bait for even the most retarded fisherman.

>> No.4087979

>>4087912
>The only one that comes to mind might be the Working Designs version of Silhouette Mirage for PS1, but that's WD's fault, not Treasure.
Funny story to that. The original Japanese version of SM on PSX, untouched by WD, is actually worse than the WD version, and Maegawa personally praised Vic Ireland for improving the game's technical flaws.

>> No.4087987

>>4087912
There are a few I'm not a fan of. Guardian Heroes Advanced kinda blows and the Bangai-O sequels are nowhere near as good.

Stretch Panic is the only game of theirs I think is straight up bad though.

>>4087979
Having played both, I disagree but whatever.

>> No.4088065

>>4087987
Have you played Dragon D-Drive yet?

>> No.4088073

>>4087924
Treasure games did have a bit of a demoscene vibe, I can't quite explain why,

>> No.4088106

>>4087534
i visit /vr/ like once or twice every two weeks and there's always a thread asking about Treasure

it doesn't matter, contrarians exist everywhere. stop worrying about gay nigga shit

>> No.4088868

>>4087926
It's more than just bait. It's some autist with a hateboner for Treasure.

>> No.4088873 [DELETED] 

When will Treasurefags realize they are the worst fanbase on /vr/ followed closely by Metal Slug

>> No.4088923 [DELETED] 

>>4088868
>muh boogeyman
lel

>> No.4089557

>>4087534
The adrenaline rush of poopyposting.

>> No.4089565
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>>4088868
And that's why you're the catch.

>> No.4089570

>>4089565
>I-I-I was just pretending to be a sperglord that spams /vr/ with "[insert treasure game here] is overrated" all the time

Sure thing, champ.

>> No.4089790

it's a meme. it's a solid company. great rental games.

>> No.4089808

>>4087534
>What drives people on this board to hate this company?

Because this is, by design, a board with little to discuss. The same fucking arguments, in the same fucking posts, about the same fucking games, on the same fucking consoles over and over and OVER AND OVER AND OVER

I can't wait to have '16-Bit Console Sound Hardware Autism War Thread #765890658'! This time, with what is most likely the same person posting audio from the Genesis Ren & Stimpy game as proof that the Genesis sound hardware is dogshit for at least the fifth time this year alone!

And what about those Ebay SNES Cart Price [Autistic Screeching] threads! Magnifique! Ages like a fine wine!

In this kind of environment, it's fucking inevitable that you'll find people posting contrarian bullshit FER DA LULZ I'M AN OLDFAG 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE LAST SUMMER

>> No.4089824

>>4088073
Because sometimes they were more interested in pretty graphics or being unconventional design than having engaging gameplay, Gunstar Heroes is alright but some parts like the dice palace and shmup stages are pure boredom and are there just to make the game "different" to other run n guns

>> No.4089932

>>4087534
Treasure fans are sensitive little tulips who think there's some hate crusade actively targeting them.

>> No.4090008

>>4089932
It's more like there's a guy who tries to flamebait, gets ignored or post deleted by mods, and then complains that "treasurefags" this or that.

>> No.4090024

>>4090008
Quite a vivid imagination you've got.

>> No.4090030

>>4090024
Except it happens a lot. Check the archives.

>> No.4090094

>>4087534
>/vr/ is one person

>> No.4090239

>>4090094
It is just one turbo autist posting really fast and replying to himself, alone. I know because I am that autist.

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>>4087536
>>4087539
>>4087542
>>4087563
You don't understand. They made games for Nintendo, as in, not the consoles, but games that would appeal to people that like Nintendo games. Sega fans/arcade game fans hate on Treasure because they casual-ize their style of games. This is why they're considered mediocre: they don't capture what arcade-style games are really about when they're made more accessible. That's why people complain. They make Sega/arcade games for people that don't like Sega games.

Or at least, that's my theory.

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4090364

>read through thread
>take pills to get my sanity back
>begin typing this post
>type the following-
>games aren't shitty when you play them enough to "git gud" to where the difficulty means nothing to you anymore
>solve the captcha
>hit post

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>>4089570
I'm not the one doing the trolling, twinkletoes. I'm just saying you shouldn't take such easy bait.

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>>4090323
>Sega fans/arcade game fans hate on Treasure because they casual-ize their style of games.

I'm not so sure. I'm way more of a Sega fan than Nintendo (don't like most big N franchises like Mario etc) and Treasure is one of my favorite developers.

>> No.4090920

>>4090654
I'm not the one taking bait, dumbass. I'm just pointing out an observation of some irate failtroll's autistic tantrums over a dev that triggers him.

>> No.4090929

>>4090920
>I'm not taking the bait, I'm just biting at that worm on a hook and giving it a good tug to show the guy in the boat I mean business!

>> No.4090938

>>4090929
So why does Treasure trigger you so much, anon? Still mad that Gunstar Heroes was a Sega exclusive? Or are you just an STG tryhard that hates them because Ikaruga is liked by many people?

>> No.4090945
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>>4090938
lol swing and a miss. I fucking love Treasure games.

>> No.4093332

>tfw really want to love Treasure's games but haven't had a chance to really get into them aside from Sin & Punishment 1 and 2 and Mischief Makers
>consider those games to be among the best you've ever played
I downloaded Ikaruga and Gunstar Heroes, but with the former, it ran like shit on my toaster laptop. The latter was hard as fuck to control on a keyboard and gave me hand cramps. I do plan on giving those another go sometime but in the future.

Should I download Gunstar Super Heroes and that one Astro Boy game they made?

>> No.4093340

>>4093332
Try to play with a controller, not a keyboard.
I don't know about Gunstar Super Heroes, a lot of people didn't like them but I don't know if it's because they're bad games, or because many people just prefer the originals.
As for Astro Boy, absolutely, IMO it's one of their best games.

>> No.4093349

>>4093340
I'm getting back into emulation and shit, so I'll probably download Astro Boy and Gunstar Super Heroes very soon.

I also really want to buy a N64 and track down Mischief Makers. That was probably one of my favorite N64 games but I never did beat or own it.

Should I try Guardian Heroes as well? And there's Alien Soldier too. What about Radiant Silvergun? Can I emulate it or should I just buy it off XBLA?

>> No.4093403

>>4087534
Because if it's not a company which make obscure turds. People hate everything which is not obscure turd which only handful of enthusiasts know.

>> No.4093424 [DELETED] 

>>4093403
Makes sense since Treasure games were obscure turds some time ago, now they are just turds

>> No.4093440

>>4090945
At this point I don't think there's anything you can post in a Treasure thread that won't make someone start yelling "WHY DO YOU HATE TREASURE????"

>> No.4093442

>>4093440
Well, it's a logical reaction to having the same guy shitposting "WHY DO YOU LIKE TREASURE?????" every time someone mentioned a game by them.
Also, it's kind of silly to think all of their games are the same, within Treasure, there were different directors, artists, programmers, etc. Not all of their games are the same.

>> No.4095201

>>4093440
Yeah, that's called trolling. The guy is either doing it deliberately or he's just a crazy retard with a raging hate boner, but the result is the same. When you bite, it's all on you.

Just point, laugh and move on.

>> No.4096193

The company that made Dynamite Headdy can't be bad.

>> No.4096246

>>4096193
BUT THEY'RE OVERRATED AND I HATE THEM AND BNGUIDFADFAINDHFNUFUAIWNUIQNUFKDSBJUGIDSNFDAIFUBH

>> No.4096270

>>4096246
Strawmaning, really?

>> No.4096275

>>4096270
It's all gravy at this point

>> No.4096548

>>4096193
That game can't compare with the better action platformers on the console, it's alright tho

>> No.4096550

>>4096193
Such a crazy, inventive game.

>> No.4096587

>>4087534
I've convinced myself that all posts about Treasure here are just falseflags at this point.

>> No.4096604

>>4090323
This is the kind of autism you can only expect from a caveman that still thinks games are toys and not art.

>> No.4096605

>>4090945
I want to play this game so bad. Why is Saturn emulation so non-existent?

>> No.4096707

>>4096604
>video games
>not toys
t. insecure manchild

>> No.4096714

>>4096605
SSF has worked great for years, and mednafen is catching up fast.

>> No.4096864

>>4096707
Well meme'd, buzzword-kun.

>>4096714
Shit, really? How many years? I feel like I check fairly often and every time I do the consensus is they all suck.

I should try them out, then.

>> No.4096881

>>4096604
>speculating whether or not Treasure games fall into a specific category somehow relates to the classification of video games in general

>> No.4096918

>>4096881
The implication was that because they were "casualized" or less arcade-like that they were therefore mediocre, ignoring a shitload of factors in game quality.

>> No.4097071

>>4096604
Artist here, please vr don't try to talk about games as art. It's painful.

>> No.4097082

but light crusader was fucking great...

>> No.4097160

>>4097082
It appeals to a very different kind of gamer than their usual arcade style games so it's contentious with fans. Personally I love LC but always fpund Gunstar kind of dul. Each to their own

>> No.4098056

>>4097071
Please don't call yourself an artist and act like it gives you some authority. It's painful. Also, video games are objectively art. You are a very close minded and ignorant artist.

>> No.4098070
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4098070

I like that Treasure's fire logo has the words "video games" in it.
It's like, no bullshit, just video games.

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>>4098056