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4069002 No.4069002 [Reply] [Original]

>dude lets make the towns more nonsensically designed and harder to navigate than the dungeons lmao

Why was this allowed?

>> No.4069190

I couldn't get past the bat during the tutorial.
That is all I have to contribute with about this game.

>> No.4069195 [DELETED] 

>>4069002
Who are you quoting?
>Why was this allowed?
What isn't allowed?

>> No.4069213

>>4069195
What is this faggotry?

>> No.4069225

>>4069213
It's from before your time.

>> No.4069416

>>4069002
It wasn't allowed, that's the reason of everyone favoring morrowind over daggerfall.

>> No.4069423

I never been able to really get in to Daggerfall and I don't know why.

>> No.4069530

>>4069416
No. Everyone played Ultima Underworld and System Shock instead.

>> No.4069681

>>4069213
some dude who decided to shit /vr/ with that shitty retort everywhere

>> No.4069687

Noob OP get GOOD!

>> No.4069692

>>4069213
It's summer so some idiot thinks he can trick the summerfags into thinking that greentext is only for quoting people or they're literally that new.

I prefer the vintage vs retro thing that's going on.

>> No.4071927

Daggerfall has the best video gaming towns ever.

Sorry you dont have a sense of direction.

>> No.4072959

>>4069692
>>4069681
the 'who are you quoting' meme has been around for like a year at least

>> No.4072962

if you want to find something you just have to ask someone wehre it is until they locate it on your map. it's not hard, OP

>> No.4072965

>>4071927
it has the most realistic towns because there are hundreds of buildings and they all look exactly the same

>> No.4073063

>>4069692
>>4072959
Some new

>> No.4073632

>>4069190
git gud

>> No.4076046

>>4072962

It's also pointless, tedious busywork.

>>4069190

The humans and skellington(s) in that dungeon are much stronger. It just gets worse and worse. You did well to stop at the bat.

>>4069423

It's because Daggerfall sucks.

(It's kind of awesome, but it basically sucks.)

>> No.4076170

>>4069423
It's a very shallow game. Beyond the initial experience of a couple of dungeons and one town, it's a boring slog and a chore to play. The worst example of this in the series.

>> No.4076595

When is Daggerfall Unity going to hit?

I want to fucking play this game.

>> No.4077028

>>4069002
daggerfall is a meme

>muh 25000000 square km map
too bad it's 100% flat terrain with radom tree sprites and rng cities, boot up minecraft and generate a world with the superflat preset and you get the daggerfall map

>muh 25000000 dungeons and towns
all rng, same shops with same items everywhere, all non shops buildings are empty and there is no reason to go inside anywhere ever unless you need to trigger a quest

>muh dozens of skills that were streamlined in the sequels
most of them flat out didn't work (like all stealth related) or just you couldnt trigger them eonugh times during the course of the game to be useful (all language skills), the only skill that wasn't broken or useless that disappeared when moving to morrowind was climbing

after getting out of privateer hold you already experienced everything the game has to offer

>> No.4077031

>>4077028
Can you rewrite that but replace the cancer with actual human speech. Preferably English. Or better yet just don't and don't post again.

>> No.4077067

>>4077031
So that poster is right. When ever someone has to attack the person rather than refute what they typed then usually means the poster is right and others just don't want to admit it since it is a game they hold dear to themselves.

>> No.4077074

>>4077067
Sorry your tablet speak baby post didn't get the reply you wanted.

>> No.4077076

>>4077074
I'm not that guy, but you seem to be wrestling with some issues that are in front of you.

>> No.4077079

>>4077076
Try /v/.

>> No.4077932

>>4077031
what i wrote is perfecly understandable so i just assume you have no arguments against my points? the game is half broken and unfinished (way more than other mainline tes games) and exhausts everything it has going to it in the first few hours, there's no way around it

>> No.4077956

>>4077028
>Daggerfall is a meme
>Almost nobody plays it outside /vr/ and old farts

Listen, the game is good, if you don't like it just play something else... you don't have to go mad (or shitpost) for something you're not forced to play - its okay if you like easy stuff, theres Skyrim for you.

>> No.4077964

>>4077956
>dud you don't like game because is HARD go back to skyrim xD
nice try, 99% of daggerfall enemies can be defeated by holding the key to walk back and swinging the weapon because everybody gets animation locked, once you learn the controls you just can't die in daggerfall

the game isn't good, it's steam greenlight tier at best and i'm being generous

>> No.4077987

>>4077964
>you don't have to go mad (or shitpost) for something you're not forced to play

:)

>> No.4078023

>>4072965
Exactly.

They dont look exactly the same, there is some slight variation.

Some days all i would do is quests for guilds that were all "go to this building and kill ghost/steal cup/exterminate rats". It was good fun. It was easy enough to know the guild was the big building down the street from the tavern which was next to the tree by the lake.

>> No.4078057
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4078057

Daggerfall is the only Elder Scrolls game I bothered to finish. It's damn good. Closest thing to a tabletop experience I've ever played. The music holds up really well with a modern soundfont.

>> No.4078081

>>4069002
There are a lot of naked titties in this game, so I'm willing to forgive some bad design.

>> No.4078086

>>4078057
>4:20 am
man what were you doin?!

>> No.4078151

Daggerfall is a hardcore game at the beginning, eventually you will understand how the game work and your character got a lot stronger.

>> No.4078228

>>4069002
I played through twice, once as a Nord warrior with magic restricted, joined the Dark Brotherhood. Everything was a struggle, but doable. Had to beat down all locked doors which was annoying.
Paralysis was pretty much a gauranteed death.

Second time was a mage with armour and wepons restricted. Accidentally selected redgaurd for the race and just atuck with it. Was nigh impossible until I learned an armour spell, then it was just too easy. All the spell variety made me essentially a god. I could fly and was invulnerable. Teleportation made 3 week long quests beatable in an ingame afternoon. Enchanted items had my MP at like 500 too.

I would definitely recommend it. Just rearrange the controlls into modern fps style and its great. Easily one of the most addictive games ever

>> No.4078351

>>4069002

>Why was this allowed?

I fucking hate this phrase. What the fuck are you going to do? Retroactively go back in time and disallow it? Fucking idiotic

>> No.4078506

>>4078351
really activates your almonds, eh?

>> No.4078512

>>4078081
Didn't Bethesda get sued back then because Daggerfall was released unrated after ESBR was a thing?

>> No.4079542

>>4078057
>image
Damn what an incoherent shitpost

>> No.4080590

Oh good a Daggerfall thread so I don't need to make one.

I used the installer found on UESP and it works fine, but the game has awful screen tearing anytime my character turns. Is there anything to help it?

>> No.4080676

>>4080590
>>4080590
toggle vsync

>> No.4080693

I played a bit of the beginning, I just made the strongest guy possible, ran away from the bats and mr screaming skeleton and found a magic sword and destroyed them all.

Then I went to Daggerfall and didn't really get any any direction on what to do next and got insulted by a Jester or something, what do?

>> No.4081827

>>4080693
People who can't finish the starting tutorial dungeon shouldn't really play older games at all. It's not hard. Go to enemy - hit it with sword. Rest to recover hp. Repeat. If it says there are enemies nearby backtrack until you can rest safely...

When it comes to complaints about game being filled with empty random things, nothing really stops you to following the main quest only. I take Daggerfall any day compared to for example Might & Magic series.

>> No.4081940

>>4081827
m8 the tutorial dungeon was easy for my magic sword wielding barbarian. Even though I was playing on my laptop with a trackpad that would confuse my attack swings for head movement all the time

>> No.4082035

>>4081940
I actually replied to wrong person. I was supposed to bash >>4069190

But anyway I'm playing Ultima VII now it's great and diddly awesome-dly

>> No.4082104

>>4080590
>awful screen tearing anytime
That's what vsync and CRTs are for.

>> No.4082181

I love Morrowind but I can't get into Ultima Underworld or Daggerfall. What am I missing? How do I git gud?

>> No.4084142
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4084142

>>4082181
You just need to try harder. It might be just the barrier that they feel bit more clumsy at first and then the sprite graphics. But if you keep playing for few hours you'll begin to appreciate the game more and how it feels.

I would recommend you to install crt emulation to get most out of how the games are supposed to look (instead of using shitty scaler as what most people seem to unironically be doing), and also recommend using MT32 emulator or good general midi soundfont to get most out of the audio.

So, it comes down to 2 things: 1) setting up dosbox and your gaming environment in a way it's as good as possible (including adding patches for proper mouse support and modifying keyboard controls to suit your own preferences) and 2) spending more time with the game than just 20 minutes before deciding if it's good or not.

Most people are too ignorant and lazy that they expect everything to be handed automatically to them without any effort. Take a look at these pixel shaders. I prefer the scanlines most as that reminds me of CRT, but most people don't ever do that because they are too stupid to customize anything in their game.

>> No.4084180

>>4069002
Why are you complaining about towns when the dungeons are much harder to navigate. You can literally get lost.

I enjoyed the fact that I could get lost (and it never lasted too long - always work out where you are eventually by careful map scrutiny or landmarks).

But still, the dungeons were fucking epic. I personally wouldn't complain about them because it really sets the game apart. But if you wanted something to complain about, I would have gone for the dungeons.

>> No.4084193

>>4069002
Is this game still playable for a cuck that only played oblivion and skyrim?

>> No.4084218

>>4084142
DOSbox doesn't simulate a real monitor, the clicks of a floppy drive or the feeling of a manual spread on your lap.

>> No.4084487

>>4084218
I know and the smell of beige plastic. But it's still there. You just need to close your eyes and imagine.

>> No.4086594

>>4084142
PC monitors don't have scanlines.

>> No.4086603 [DELETED] 

>>4086594
kys

>> No.4086635

>>4086594
>>4084142
>>4086603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlDVMeJeUig

They're not visible unless you're autistic or you want to burn out your eye sockets with your face next to the screen with a magnifying glass.