Breath of Fire 2

[Anonymous No.4061342]

...... I don't have enough strength,
Give yourself to God
Pray to God! Praise God!
You must become God's strength......

[Anonymous No.4061371]

Are you working? You are working hard!

[Anonymous No.4061483]

What a bland game that despite its many perks somehow only achieves mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.4061616]

>>4061483
at least kitty is good

[Anonymous No.4062919]

>>4061483
it has better characters and story than most snes rpgs

[Anonymous No.4062967]

>>4061342
Check the catalog, we already have a general BoF threads for all the games.

[Anonymous No.4062972]

>>4061342

Bagina, heh.

Is that supposed t be this guy? Why is he talking to Ryu like that? Whats his story? How did he escape from under the dragon?

[Anonymous No.4062994]

>>4062972
i dunno. and what the fuck is Nikanoru?

[Anonymous No.4063005]

>>4062972
Yes, Barubary. He didn't escape the dungeon, Ryu and Bow entered it (as kids). Small monsters could escape or enter the dungeon, it's just the big ones that were trapped.

I loved how you could show Barubary some sportsmanship and opt to fight him on your own. I like when bosses have something personal against you, and are not just obstacles in your journey.

[Anonymous No.4063175]

>>4062994
It's a reference to Gabriel García Márquez's book El Otoño del Patriarca, where "Nicanor" is the name Death uses to call those who are going to die.

>>4063005
He's talking about how Barubary, who appears to be inside Infinity a couple screens before Deathevn, also appears on that cave at the start of the game. It makes no sense because Infinity is sealed by two different gates, the latter of which can only be opened by Ryu and is only opened at the very end of the game, and yet Barubary is somehow capable of running around anywhere without regard for either seal. It's one of the game's plot holes.

[Anonymous No.4063179]

>>4061483
>bland game
I mean, the translation is bafflingly terrible and the game as a whole is dated, but I don't think you can accuse it of being bland. The graphics and music are great, and there's lots of small features like shaman combinations and town building that make it enjoyable.

Also it has Katt.

[Anonymous No.4063186]

>>4063179
Thing about town building is that there is only one solution of setting up NPCs. Basically if you don't get a bakery and a weapon shop you're fucked.

[Anonymous No.4063195]

>>4063186
You're not fucked, those are just exploitable. You don't need them.

[Anonymous No.4063216]

>>4062919
Not true, and it wouldn't be saying much if it was true anyway.

>>4063179
Yeah, and despite all that those mechanics the game is still pretty boring. It's like the most elaborate JRPG to attain mediocrity despite everything it tries.

[Anonymous No.4063226]

>>4063216
Hmm, I disagree, and I think the fact that the series endured for much longer is a testament to the game's quality. There are many much worse JRPGs on the system. Would I rather be playing FF6? Sure. Would I play through BoF2 today? Probably not. In 1994, it was a good game.

[Anonymous No.4063240]

>>4063216
It's still an interesting with some good ideas. Overall I kind of agree with you, I find it overall kind of tough to return to BoFII now, but I still appreciate the ambition. If anything I am thankful as BoFII allowed us to get BoFIII, BoFIV, and BoFV which are all great games.

[Anonymous No.4063342]

>>4063240
5 has sold fuck all and it's where the series stopped for good 10+ years. Very bland artstyle, graphics and tedious gameplay based on alleged replayability. Setting is generic as fuck.
3 is as much slog as is 2 despite being easy. The last half of the game is unmemorable and filled with filler minigames just to slow your progress without any plot connections. Let's not feign forgetfulness here, buddy.
4 is way too easy where you never get to the point of using so much praised battle system to its alleged potential.

To the other retards ITT calling 2 on being unplayable today: 2 has randomizer patch released, and has anti-grinding patch released as well, so that should be an absolute non issue even to the likes of you.

[Anonymous No.4063362]

>>4063342
Wow, these are terrible opinions, I'm impressed.

[Anonymous No.4063365]

>>4063342
Still all better then BoFII. I would rather have easy but well crafted games then a game difficult for all the wrong reasons. Also fan made patches are a bit of a shitty to argue a game has more replayability, everyone is talking about the base game in general.

[Anonymous No.4063369]

>>4063179
>Katt
Seeing how the remake of Crash handles things and how people finally started to appreciate Coco, I kind of wish there was a remake of Breath of Fire II at least by a semi-competent dev. Imagine people reaction to Katt, that appreciation that was once stolen from her by circumstances coming back.

[Anonymous No.4063378]

>>4063365
Do you act like a monkey in the real life too? Don't feign ignorance here on me, buddy. The things I mentioned regarding at least 3 and 4 are objectively the truth and I am not gonna say them again just for you. You are just blinded by whatever you got it there are a kid, nothing else to add. Now you just pretend that fan patches don't matter, not even taking a glimpse at them... You are a hell of a person, need to say.

[Anonymous No.4063379]

>>4063362
I am pretty sure most BoF fans will agree on Quarter (not 5) being the worst game in the series.

[Anonymous No.4063381]

>>4063378
>objectively the truth
lawl

>>4063379
Speak for yourself, it's personally my favorite. I think it's a unfairly maligned work of genius.

[Anonymous No.4063385]

Speaking of 3, Rhapala or whatever it was called segment was slow and tedious without any actual events happening, I am not sure how people defend that. Threw the game at that moment, so I am not sure if there's anything else like this in the game.

[Anonymous No.4063387]

>>4063381
Fuck off from Breath of Fire II thread then.

[Anonymous No.4063403]

>>4063378
No, those flaws are true. BoFIV is my favorite and I agree, it is too easy. It also has some shitty padding near the end and there is little insentive to experiment with the dragon system as the default one works well.

All that said it is still a solid game with a top quality combat system, soundtrack, story, and art design.
>>4063381
Even those that despise it know that it is better then BoFVI. Anyone who would evem try to argue BoFVI isn't the worst shouldn't be taken serious.

I think over time BoFV has warmed up to more people. I also really like it and think its reputation is undeserved.

Also I hate to be that guy but let's maybe try to move disscussion to this thread >>4058361 to avoid cluttering the catalog.

[Anonymous No.4063405]

>>4063179
There's a re-translation patch that has been around for, like, 8 years:
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1384/

As for gameplay there're:
http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/1166/
and
http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/1180/

Monster editor should work with both versions (original and re-translated), but randomizer only works with original.

As for graphics, BoF2 has one of the best graphics for the system, it doesn't need anything.

[Anonymous No.4063407]

>>4063405
>that gif
>not completing the fight solo

[Anonymous No.4063958]

>>4063226
How about Glory of Heracles? Shin Megami Tensei? Live-a-Live?

There are many more obscure games than BoF2 that are leagues better than it. It's not the worst game on the system, just a painfully average game with latter-era SNES JRPG mechanics.

>>4063342
It has nothing to do with grinding lol

The game is just boring and forgettable.

[Anonymous No.4063980]

>>4063958
Live-a-Live might be the only that stands.

[Anonymous No.4063990]

>>4063175
>El Otoño del Patriarca

thank you, i've wondered about this for years

[Anonymous No.4063995]

>>4063980
>implying Glory of Heracles IV is less playable than BoF2
I doubt you've even played it.

[Anonymous No.4064013]

>>4061342
I'm playing this in a DSlite that's advance compatible, and I'm stuck in the statues tower.

[Anonymous No.4064152]

[Anonymous No.4064196]

>>4064152
is this the old or new translation?

[Anonymous No.4064259]

>>4064196
old.

[Anonymous No.4064267]

>>4063369
I challenge you kattfags to list three reasons why you like her "character" that don't involve her appearance.

[Anonymous No.4064669]

>>4064267
He has never even played the games, you seriously think he has? He likes her for her appearance only, as simple as that.

[Anonymous No.4064694]

>>4063958
>Glory of Heracles? Shin Megami Tensei? Live-a-Live?
None of which were available in English in the 1990s, Anon-kun.

[Anonymous No.4064816]

[Anonymous No.4066816]

>>4064694
Neither was BoF2

[Anonymous No.4066853]

>>4064694
I know.

Do you think we are still in the nineties? How is that relevant

[Anonymous No.4066956]

>>4066853
>Do you think we are still in the nineties? How is that relevant
I'm saying in context, the game was decent. I played it (still own the cart from then) back in the day, when JRPGs on the SNES were few and far between. Today, in hindsight, with all the fan translated games available -- yes, there are better games than BoF2. But back then, there weren't as many options. And I still think it's worth playing for fans of the genre. The person bringing up SMT and other fan translated games is disregarding context.

>>4066816
>Neither was BoF2
what? Oh, are you making a joke about the translation?

[Anonymous No.4067118]

>>4061342
Looking back, this game was pretty edgy for its time.

[Anonymous No.4067123]

>>4067118
Not really. The message isn't about religion in general being evil but about how it allows for easy manipulation of the masses.

[Anonymous No.4067661]

[Anonymous No.4068023]

>>4064152
Are you suggesting there is something wrong with this superior banter? It's a gem in absurdity if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.4068994]

>>4061342

As a kid I never figured out fusions or the village . Didn't even know about either

[Anonymous No.4069001]

>>4068994
Time to replay.

[Anonymous No.4069226]

>>4069001

How did I miss them both? Don't want to make Sam mistake

[Anonymous No.4069275]

>>4069226
Shamans are in dungeons, in some cases you have to back to a dungeon after you've finished it
People for the village are in towns, though most are useless

[Anonymous No.4069434]

>>4069226
Partially use guide and play re-translation.

[Anonymous No.4069437]

>>4069226
Partially use guide.

[Anonymous No.4069727]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVPgvp7BvGt/

[Anonymous No.4069740]

>>4069727
>some random nobody said BoFII was in thier top five snes jrpgs
Wow, some meaningless information. Also this person has some of the most generic taste I have seen. These are probably the five blandest picks you could make, they probably don't even play fan translated games.

[Anonymous No.4070179]

>>4063179
A waifu does not make a game good.

[Anonymous No.4070184]

>>4070179
Katt: Hold my beer

[Anonymous No.4070650]

>>4069740
I'd agree with the one dude. BoF 2 was the tits.
w/e people think it's the shits. I like it.

[Anonymous No.4070667]

Played the absolute fuck out of BOF2. Even bothered to get the Boombada spell, along with the 9tailswhip and the NoTwinRP.
And still no Goo King Sword in 3.

[Anonymous No.4070701]

>>4070650
I wasn't saying saying BoFII was shit, I just don't understand the relevance of that list. It's just some guy's pretty generic list of top five snes jrpgs.
>>4070667
>grinding for the goo king sword
Absolute mad man. I believe there is a easier way to do it with the fairie village. I'll typically get the holy avenger and a few of the other ultimate equipment but the goo king sword is just too tedious even for me.

[Anonymous No.4070856]

>>4070701
Yeah, oddly enough I don't have the patience to deal with the number guessing game in the fairy village, but I don't mind killing thousands of NightRiders and Zodiacs for rare drops. Honestly, Boombada was the one I had the most difficulty with...

[Anonymous No.4071196]

>>4070701
>>4070856
Get out the Katt thread.

[Anonymous No.4071224]

>>4071196
*Get out of the Katt's thread.

>>4070667
Most of the ultimate stuff in the game is worthless anyway. The same shit you can archive through casting buffs. It's not even a matter of skill or anything to gather those, it's just tedious grinding because the drop rates are nuts. I'd say only Ryu's and Katt's ultimate weapons are worth it.

[Anonymous No.4071230]

>>4071224

[Anonymous No.4072237]

>katt instead of based cute winged wife aka Nina
damn furries, i say

[Anonymous No.4072259]

>>4063362
These are actually pretty accurate desu.

Breath of Fire has never been a great serie.s

[Anonymous No.4072356]

>>4072237
birb and snek are da bes

[Anonymous No.4072649]

>>4072259
Then fuck off dude. We're here because, despite the flaws of each game, we like these games.

[Anonymous No.4072652]

>>4072649
All these threads are is waifu-fagging. Don't act like it's not.

[Anonymous No.4072695]

>>4072652
Maybe this one but the other BoF thread has good disscussion.

[Anonymous No.4073197]

>>4072237
>>4072356
>>4072649
Don't you have a general thread? Katt is maybe the only reason people still look up to the series nowadays. Cut that and the series is completely dead and forgotten. See, the only way these threads are getting attention is through false flag ironic funposting when Katt is being posted.

[Anonymous No.4073202]

>>4073197
Honestly not sure if truly retarded or baiting.

[Anonymous No.4073214]

>>4072695
Funny but the only way that thread is going is through ironic posting and bump, bump, bump from one sole hipster. Doesn't differ much except the fact there's no quality art up there in contrast to here.

[Anonymous No.4073215]

>>4073202
Are you by any chance? I am completely serious.

[Anonymous No.4073221]

>>4073197
Cry more bb

[Anonymous No.4073237]

>>4073214
>furry
>quality art

[Anonymous No.4073430]

>>4073202
Imagine being this much of a spineless faggot.

This IS bait, right?

[Anonymous No.4073503]

>>4073197
>false flag ironic funposting

>being this assblasted

[S-A-G-E No.4073580]

>contribute to the thread
>get my posts randomly deleted
Love this hotpockery. Explain this, janitor. Explain this you goddamn retarded monkey and how do you leave stuff like these:
>>4073503
>>4072652
>>4070179
>>4068023
>>4064669

[Anonymous No.4073585]

Welp, time to stealthy destroy this thing for once.