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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4026857

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1467/42/1467421002740.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs only: http://www.mediafire.com/file/edy3dhdbp33pdg7/IWADS.zip
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1476/78/1476783249877.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent (dead)

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

SOUNDFONTS
https://pastebin.com/y0Mnk9s4

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.4032058

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

QUMP
-Mapping deadline reached; awaiting release?
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

OP
-2016 torrent of idgames archive is gone; needs replacement?

=== NEWS ===

[6-1] Project MSfiX'd update please start putting on a version number
http://www.mediafire.com/file/s1h0s2h63hfhab5/projectmsfixd_vr053117.pk3

[5-31] GZDoom 3.1 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=56686

[5-31] An old fan-fiction Doom bestiary was dug up; no actual resources but may or may not be of interest
https://web.archive.org/web/20170113212105/http://haunt.8m.com/beastiary/index.html

[5-31] New OBLIGE WIP
http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=533.msg4818#msg4818

[5-31] Rise of the Wool Ball announced
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1754356

[5-30] MetaDoom v4 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010

[5-28] Another Project MSfiX'd update; Doom monsters working again
http://www.mediafire.com/file/p21m3fwycfvh153/projectmsfixd_vr052717.pk3

[5-28] Hunter's Moon Version 2.9 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30942

[5-28] Anon release; an Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard skin
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uj4ikgv5m6psquy/Ahnold.wad?dl=0

[5-27] Call of Doom 0.85 released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-doom-cod-style-advanced-weapons-mod/addons/call-of-doom-v085-cod-style-70-weapons-for-doom

[5-26] Runic Division by S'Arais, pre-release 1
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94070-2-map-wad-name-pending-working-name-runic-division-pre-release-1/
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=56564

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, or want to contribute to the OP, please reply/backlink to the OP or this post.

>> No.4032075
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>>4032057
Nice OP.

>> No.4032110

>>4032013
>>4032029
i've always liked this interpretation, it was the way samsara depicted doomguy
coincidentally enough, now it's canon in doom 4

go figure

>> No.4032137 [DELETED] 

I made my first Doom map (UDMF format) over the course about a week and about 8 hours of work put in, a lot of which was actually learning how to map. I wanted to post it here so I could get some criticism on my mapping and what needs improving, which this obviously will being my first map. Don't expect anything nice or fancy looking. This map is based off the restaurant I work at.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9fr3msnobg7yyin/brewhouse.wad?dl=1

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>>4032110
There's lines and a bio for him in Q3A already.

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>> No.4032154

I made my first Doom map (UDMF format) over the course of about a week and put in about 8 hours of work, about half of which was learning how to actually map. I'm posting it here because I want you to play it and tell me what needs improving, removal, adding, etc. Don't expect anything special. This is based off the restaurant I work at.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/934t9fnrzz3atjk/brewhouse.wad?dl=1
Now with 100% more not-the-old-version-of-the-map!

>> No.4032178

>>4032154
And I fucked it up again!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ruf7mbapjo5umy9/brewhouse1.wad?dl=1

>> No.4032192

>>4032146
>>4032110
I cant find a vid with his lines anywhere

>> No.4032195

>>4032178
I just finished playing through the first version of it. It's not bad for a first map but I do have some criticism and advice. Idk if you fixed this or not, but it's very easy to get trapped in the red key switch room. And in general it's kind of boring. Pretty much everything is at one height, enemies often spawn as one horde of one type of enemy, and the textures are repetitive, and the gameplay is basically enter room -> kill all enemies -> enter next room. All of these factos add up and prevent it from being especially good. Needs more variety. Like instead of just entering a flat room and killing a few zombies standing around, there could be stairs leading up to the room and then there's snipers in elevated positions and pinkies closer by, etc.

Also I found the hidden armor and shotgun, good secets.

>> No.4032198

>>4032195
Oh man I didn't even think of entering the red switch room without the key, I never would have thought about it.
Will defiantly take the rest of your post into account when i make my next map.

>> No.4032202

>>4032192
http://www.rigelatin.net/q3a/quotes/doom.php

>> No.4032208

>>4032202
I was looking specifically for audio

>> No.4032210

>>4032208
there is no audio have you not played Q3?

>> No.4032214

>>4032198
Well if there's two open paths, chances are people are going to explore both lol

>> No.4032217

>>4031950
We're almost on the same specs, I have an i3 though and my monitor only reaches 1366x768
Have you tried the mod on software mode? It's faster than using the iGPU most of the time

>> No.4032219

>>4032210
.....no.... young fag with potato computer

>> No.4032221

>>4032219
do yourself a favor and go play it there's still servers up with people
https://youtu.be/T6de3nqBpFs?t=21s

>> No.4032224

>>4032214
I guess I missed it because I made the map and never though of exploring, instead I just ran through the map testing it and shit.

>> No.4032226

>>4032219
Start playing it, any 2005+ laptop should run Quake 3 easily

>> No.4032236

>>4032219
if you do play prepare your anus some people are too good at q3

>> No.4032263

WHERE DO GET BLOOD???

>> No.4032269

>>4032263
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=blood+game+download

>> No.4032271

>>4032263
Better question:
I remember there being a "So You Wanna Play Blood" pic. Does anyone have that?

>> No.4032273

BLOOD GAME DOWNLOAD

>> No.4032279
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Is there a mod like Hideous, that isn't so hideous?
>weapons do very high damage
>health is drastically reduced for you and enemies, you're both glass cannons (more realistic)
this means getting the drop on badguys and not getting shot are vital to winning, forcing you to strategize

>your movement is reduced to that of an actual human being
>you can't run around at 80 mph
this means you can't expect survive out in the open like you could in regular doom
>you can't carry 800 pounds of guns (you can, but you run out of stamina and can't move well)
this means that you have to rely on your partners to carry the other guns that you will need in certain situations
It also means you might have to have a "stash" you keep in the level that you go back to
>you have limited stamina
*>you have momentum and legs; you can't change directions on a dime, nor can you glide around like you're on a rocket powered wheelchair
these both realistically limit your ability to survive out in the open like a 1 man army, thus putting more emphasis on relying on strategy/your team
*>your turning/aiming speed is limited, and also heavier guns have more inertia, meaning they're harder to quickly aim around

>getting hurt actually hinders your abilities
>being at low health actually hinders your abilities
>bleeding is a factor
>healthpacks don't activate by walking over them: you have to apply them to yourself which takes time
just more reasons getting the drop on badguys, and not getting shot becomes important, and getting cover to heal actually becomes important

>you have to take reloading and magazines into account
>you can pillage ammo from guns, but those guns still exist and don't disappear when you do so

Hideous destructor basically
1. uses realistic gameplay to create a need for strategy
2. gives you some ways to apply strategy

But it's got kind of a painful learning curve and it can be hard finding people who want to play it, which sucks since concept is good for co-op

>> No.4032281

>>4032279
what is this faggotry
the reason i like doom is that it doesnt try to be "realistic" like fucking cod and instead prioritizes fun gameplay

>> No.4032284

>>4032281
The "realistic" mods can be fun, but on like 40% of maps. Gotta enjoy dem 100 chaingunners in Plutonia.

>> No.4032285
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>>4032195
Just finished playing and as >>4032195 pointed out, it's kinda simple and you go kill, go to place, kill more, go again and so. Also, it's indeed pretty easy to tell it's based on a restaurant kek
Maybe I'm a scrub but

>> No.4032289

>>4032281
but you can use realistic things to make fun gameplay if you do it right.

And this wouldn't be like cod at all, cod has health regen and you can get shot like a billion times, not to mention the linear level design, infinite spawning enemies, etc

>> No.4032292

>>4032285
Thanks, shitty PC. Anyways, maybe I'm a noob or something but the difficulty in the last room is way higher than the other rooms, I died several times to the point that I didn't ever bother with it and ran to the switch instead of getting 100%, so check that and either make that room less crowded or make the entire map more difficult, also give more health, the ammo is enough as it is.

>> No.4032298

>>4032281
Modern source ports of Doom make it really easy to mod, so provided you put in the effort, you can change the game to really radically different from the original.

People have even made entire new games built on ZDoom

>> No.4032306

>>4032281
Realism can be fun to a degree.
However I like being able to run like a cheetah and carry lots of shit, so Hideous Destructor is not really my cup of tea.

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4032334

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=56702

Space Hunter's finally ready. Feels good to have this thing launched.

>> No.4032339

>>4032334
awwww shit nigga

>> No.4032346

>>4032279
>Movement reduced to that of an actual human being
kek. Maybe a fucking pentaplegic. I did mandatory military bullshit (because old eurofag) and we moved way faster with all our equipment on. And it was much less optimized than today. And that was taking into account pacing and energy conservation.
People who believe this is "realistic" speed is people who works in a fucking office and thinks any weight carrying slows you down to a crawl. This meme needs to die when people aims for "realism".

>> No.4032348

>>4032334
Cool beans

Samson when

>> No.4032351

>>4032348
After Kustam, which will happen after this next big GMOTA update I'm gonna resume working on soon

>> No.4032354

>>4032334
Awesome! Can't wait to play it tomorrow.

>> No.4032356

>>4032346
That's what actually meant with the *'s next to that and the aiming inertia.
I think he fucked with the movement too much so I was hoping for a mod where it's a bit better than that, but I like his direction.

>> No.4032362

>>4032334
Please mention what maps are being shown in the trailer! I can't see them in the youtube description. I know BTSX E1 and Equinox but none of the others.

>> No.4032380

>>4032334

Good shit. Good work, Kegan.
inb4zhs2shitsonit

>> No.4032382

>>4032362
Ah shit lemme update the trailer description, but I used:

Vrack triolgy
Equinox
BTSX episode 1
UACultra

>> No.4032391

>>4032334
Noice. Now add Samus mode.

>> No.4032410

>>4032346
Endurance is a thing though, running with that shit tires you out.

Also, carrying all that shit for a long time wears your body out, it's extremely common for American infantrymen to have serious injuries and wear/damage from carrying so much shit day in day out. Lots of people have fucked up knees (especially doing jumps and landings), and it's not unheard of for people to shorten down a few inches in height from their spines compacting.

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>>4032334
This'll be fun

>> No.4032437

>>4032410
Yeah, but considering the battles are in real time, and you got a carry limit to begin with...it's still too fucking slow. Consider the character is slow as molasses with just the basic pistol and a couple rounds.
Not to mention, you aren't fighting all the time, or there are times you are just waiting or scouting the area. And a full campaign lasts just a few hours. You'd be pretty tired if that was real battle, sure, but there's a thing such as sucking it up to survive.
And, lastly, it's supposed to be a trained marine, not just some guy that carries 5kg and gets tired. It's like you are playing as a NEET instead of as a soldier.

>> No.4032439

Should I play Quake?

>> No.4032441

>>4032437
I never said HD was great, I don't play it, I just chimed in.

>>4032439
Yes, it's fun.

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>>4032439
Can you think of any good reason not to?

>> No.4032451

>>4032441
>>4032443
Using QuakeSpasm?

>> No.4032453

>>4032443
This is a trick question, there is no good reason.

>> No.4032456

>>4032451
QS is good, make sure you disable texture filtering for the authentic crunchy-pixel experience (put gl_texturemode gl_nearest_mipmap_linear in a text file called autoexec.cfg in your quake\id1 folder).

>> No.4032458

>>4032451
Whatever port you like, I use DirectQ

>> No.4032459

>>4032451
ezQuake with the big dawgs
you only become a man after winning 5 duels

>> No.4032460

>>4032456
Yeah, that's what I wanted. Thanks for pointers.

>> No.4032462

>>4032459
>ezquake
>for singleplayer
anon no

>> No.4032465

>>4032462
its all about that 1v1 my dude

>> No.4032468

>>4032465
q1 mp is unbalanced as fuck and its SP is far superior
i will literally 1v1 you right now

>> No.4032469

>>4032468
It's midnight for me but I will duel you tomorrow if you give me some info.

>> No.4032471

>>4032459
If he uses ezquake instead of a modern single player focused port, he won't be able to play good shit like Arcane Dimensions.

>> No.4032473

>>4032471
He should save the best map set for last anyways.

>> No.4032479

>>4032473
Have you seen the size of the Quaddicted archives? He'll die of old age before getting to it!

>best map set
>when it includes Crucial Error and Swampy Fuckbottom

>> No.4032620

>>4032441
Oh, believe it or not, I do like HD. It's still that some of the decisions are baffling. How can such interesting weapons be in the same mod that gives your player the agility of an octogenarian is beyond me. Vaecrius if you are reading this, if you used yourself as reference for speed and carrying weight, you are a wimp, my dude.

>> No.4032642

>>4032146
Wow that description seems so unfitting to how I envisioned doomguy.

>> No.4032643

http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1496187666470.webm

This makes me think of Evilution

>> No.4032646

>>4032643
Is he dropping the bass on a bass?

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>have a platform above a func_train
>want the train to not have shadows applied to it so it doesn't look retarded when it moves
>_minlight apparently doesn't work now for some retarded reason, so it always has part of it in shadow
>well the player should never see the bottom of this platform anyway, what if I change the bottom face to a sky texture and have it project light
>it works perfectly

I GUESS

>> No.4032661

>>4032058
see >>4032334

>> No.4032676

Any (zscript, preferably) modders here know how I can get the pitch where the player is aiming a weapon to apply to a FLATSPRITE? My beams keep coming out perfectly horizontal and I got no idea on where to get the player's aim pitch so if I am aiming straight up, the beam would be pointing up.

>> No.4032684

>>4032110
>it was the way samsara depicted doomguy
by keeping him same as the original? sorry i don't understand what you're trying to say here

>> No.4032687

>>4032676
That's easy, just "Actor mymissile = SpawnPlayerProjectile("Foo")" then "mymissile.pitch = pitch". Make sure to check for null pointers first.

>> No.4032695

>>4032687
Oh, damn, I can do that? zscript is fucking awesome then. Thanks fampai!

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>>4032479
AD is not the best map set (that would be Beyond Belief), but it has the best map

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>>4032208
https://clyp.it/fgajeyq1
This is the unused voice of Doomguy from Quake 3's PS2 port.
He sounds like an edgy anime character.

>> No.4032707

>>4032696
>best map
>not Terror fucking Fuma
It's everything a techbase level should be and ten times more on top of that, and is only possible without being a horrible slog due to the whole host of new Grunt and Enforcer type enemies Quoth/AD include.

>> No.4032714

>>4032705
That sounds AWFUL.

>> No.4032715

I'd like to make a small mod that displays enemy health that I'm facing at with a simple HudMessage text, but I have no idea how'd I get the script to detect a monster in front of me.

I looked at other mod that had an enemy health bar, but they seem to do with SBARINFO, which I think wouldn't work, since I want this to be universally usable with any mod.

Does anyone know of an ACS function that will return the information (enemy health and name) of an entity that I have centered on my screen?

>> No.4032723

>>4032714
I know, right? Thank fuck it wasn't kept ingame.

>> No.4032737

>>4032705
Sounds like Shadow the Hedgehog.

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How long until a mod adds the Hell Guard? D4T doesn't add it with an otherwise complete monster roster, and MetaDoom was doing direct model rips, circumventing the need for someone else to make sprites, and it still didn't get in.

>> No.4032756

>>4032715
I forked off GitHub a mod that does exactly this, along with modifying the entire HUD and adding floating damage numbers, see if it's of any use to you.
Original: https://github.com/j-palomo/JPHUD
Fork with a few tweaks/enhancements: https://github.com/coldcite/JPHUD
Select mod_friendly branch for HP bar/floating damage (toggleable) only, to use with other mods without the HUD.

I'm still in the process of adding support for properly displaying enemy names from other mods and stuff, without "support" it should work just fine though, only it will show the name of the class instead of the proper enemy name.

>> No.4032774

I just played the PC version for the first time and was disappointed in the ending.
I remember the console (32x) version having an actual ending level for beating the game with no cheats, instead you just jump on the teleporter and go to a room with enemies and die for ending.
Was expecting to go through the other chapters or something.

>> No.4032778

>>4032774
Should add 2 is really fun. I bought the collection, was stuck for like 4 hours on a map that had a door blocked red, blue, and yellow pillars, and I was only able to find the red and blue key.
Turns out you can fit through with out needing the yellow key which is not even in the map I don't think. My only complaint.
I

>> No.4032781

>>4032756
Ah! PickActor was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!

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4032787

>>4032057

> still no MEGAMAN 8BIT DEATHMATCH in OP pic

Pathetic. Nice servitude tho, retard. Trolls who forced megaman is bad meme are really happy.

Fucking faggot.

>> No.4032794

>>4032707
The key hunting and subsequent backtracking in Terror Fuma is clumsy as fuck. The map relies often on repopulation which it does in a highly arbitrary and unpredictable manner. It has numerous tedious arena segments, and the finale is one of the lamest things ever because it's too easy to just walk away and funnel the enemies to you. You can also game the spawn waves by keeping one enemy alive and delaying the next wave, allowing you to leisurely restock as much as you want from the respawning pickups. It's also too easy to go through most of the map with just the widowmaker, which you get very early on. Most ranged combat is against flying enemies so when you're not using the widowmaker, then you end up just using the shotgun instead of having to use the slow projectile nailguns. 200+ enemies in the game and I used maybe only 100 nails total and didn't use the thunderbolt at all, just shells, shells and shells. The widowmaker is used as a stand-in for the Doom II SSG instead of a late, high tier weapon like the rest of the AD maps used it. Terror Fuma feels like a Quake map for people who would rather play Doom II than Quake.

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>>4032781
Feel free to pick whatever.
I love small mods you can use alongside more "meaty" mods to spice them up.

>> No.4032832

>>4032737
Is there a Shadow the Hedgehg mod for Doom?

>> No.4032851

>>4032469
still waiting for that contact info

>> No.4032852

>>4032810
...Of course that zombie sprite is in there.
I totally forgot this is steal everything day, silly me.
It wasn't going to be limited to one thing, oh no siree bob.
The hell mod is that?

>> No.4032863

>>4032787
Humorously, the latest Intermission episode has a guest speaker who keeps going on about MM8BDM's development

>> No.4032883

>>4032852
>...Of course that zombie sprite is in there.
>I totally forgot this is steal everything day, silly me.
>It wasn't going to be limited to one thing, oh no siree bob.

what drama is this??

>> No.4032909

>>4032852
Complex Doom with that HP bar mod on top.

>> No.4032912

>>4032883
I woke up today to find the Project Brutality dev is trying to use another of DRLA's specific sprites; I've been waiting for him to go online to talk to him about it. He's already using one without permission. And now apparently there's SoloSpaghetti's Elite Sergeant sprites in whatever that is.

Sorry about venting like this, I'm just really really annoyed right now, and shit like this keeps happening today and annoying me even further.

>> No.4032916

>>4032909
Oh, of course it'd be comple domple. Silly me.

>> No.4032918

>>4032883
No clue.
I did some revenant edits for stuff and they are everywhere now, when I see them I just go like "heh" and feel nice because people felt it was worth using. No one ever asked me for permission or bothered to credit. I don't really give a shit desu, I made it to be used.
I don't get why people get butthurt over those things, if anything, see it as a compliment.

>> No.4032920

>>4032912
thanks for the explanation, no need for apology, your annoyance appears to be justified.

>> No.4032929

>>4032918
Yeah, I can understand that. That's a nice mindset to have.

In this case, it's that you can spend hours and a great deal of effort making unique assets for your or someone else's mod, to make it really stand out. And someone just comes along, swipes and repurposes it, often doesn't even give credit.

Someone just swoops in like a vulture, steals part of what makes your project unique, that you or someone else slaved over, and did none of the fucking effort.

>> No.4032947
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>>4032912
I think more projects and stuff in general should use GitHub or similar, sounds like it might fix part of the whole "authority" thing so many people seem to care so much.

>>4032918
>>4032929
I'm more in line with the first post sentiment though, but not giving at least a bit of credit is for fags.

>> No.4032958

>>4032918
yeah i mean in open source software you cheerfully reuse code without having to ask for permission first, the whole point of the licenses are basically "use/modify this freely. just do it, but give credit"

but on the other hand, for some reason the rules/expectations for program code and art assets are different. i've never been able to understand why. but i am not an art asset creator. (i do program, but am shit at it)

might explain why freedoom (art assets project with permissive software license) has long struggled with attracting contributions

>> No.4032985

>>4032748
I feel like the simplest way to do it would be a reskin of the lion guard thing with the shield

>> No.4032989

>>4032705
I guess I'm the freak here, because I like it, he sounds more subdued, less hammy, but still has some snark to him under all the trauma, better then brutal doomguy

>> No.4032996
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4032996

What are the best dosbox settings for blood?

>> No.4033023

>>4032996
press "u" for mouselook.

Thats pretty much it.

>> No.4033035

>>4033023
I meant 'settings' as in changing the config.

>> No.4033036

>>4032958
Probably because code is more of a tool to get shit done while art assets are a creative visual product. The end user doesn't usually see the code but they do see the art, so an artist is more emotionally invested in their creations. The programmer mindset is "I'll share my tools" while the artist mindset is "OC DONUT STEEL."

>> No.4033037

>>4033036
I'm an artist that likes being of use, I'm happy to be credited but all that matters is that people liked my work

>> No.4033061

>>4033036
it's more of an apples and oranges situation
programming is a science, while art is, well, art
objective VS subjective
you can optimize a bloated mess of a script to run smoother
but trying to improve sprites just makes it different
some will like it, other maybe won't
making the game run smoother makes it better for everyone

>> No.4033072

>>4033061
Not always, if a sprite doesn't convey an effect or animation correctly it's objectively bad, like if an imp's body didn't show up right of the cacodemons attack animation bugged out

>> No.4033076
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4033076

How many of you post on the Doomworld or Zdoom forums? What do you think of them?

>> No.4033078
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4033078

anyone know where the "shakeyourass" projectiles are inside PB? I hate modders who don't organize their stuff so I can steal it easier.

>> No.4033081

>>4033078
use a_quakeex
zdoomwiki look it up

>> No.4033085
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4033085

>>4033081
I just don't know if that will be enough to emulate the PB recoil since the mod also has some recoil ACS. I'm guessing you can't just copy ACS like that like you can do decorate.

>> No.4033086

>>4033072
Wouldn't those be programming errors though?

>> No.4033089

>>4032279
Anons's Aliens the Ultimate Doom
Also what is the speed of the player in HD? 0.5? Because I find 0.5 to be sensible.

>> No.4033091

what happened to the platformer thing?

>> No.4033103

>>4032912
>>4032916

>of course it'd be comple domple
>SoloSpaghetti's Elite Sergeant sprites in whatever that is

That sprite just a translation of the original former human with no further edits. Stealing is not something to shit on complex doom for. It has credits for every single fucking thing in it that's not made by Daedalus.

>> No.4033107

Hi people,

I present you a map I might or might not have posted a year ago. I only just recently discovered it and didn't remember whether I actually finished it - basically it was only some details to add/change and adjust difficulties. It is my second actual map I made.

Working title was "technotomb", it is based on the idea of a social primitive, but technologically advanced race of beings, so I could have stuff like computers and switches, but also stuff like torches and decay.

I would appreciate critique and tips on what to improve in the future. The map is balanced around UV.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dp722iv26qfudl/technotomb.wad?dl=0

P.S. "Mark the car" captchas suck, especially if it shows a parking lot or highway.

>> No.4033108
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4033108

FUCK WHY IS DEMONSTEELE SO SATISFYING

>> No.4033110

>i need a font for my mod
>i know! i'll make my own!
fuck me this shit is tedious

>> No.4033119

>>4033110

Keep going, it will stand out when it's done, trust me.

>> No.4033123

>>4033103
It was actually pieced together from multiple things and recolored. Hence the drum mag on the Assault Shotgun he is carrying, the DRLA weapon. And stealing is the number one thing I can shit on it for, last time I talked to Daedalus he basically told me to piss off because "I hadn't noticed he'd taken something" in time.

Well, I can't disprove what you're saying about credits, the comple domple I have is v21, so it's probably quite old. Sure as hell doesn't credit SoloSpaghetti or Blox in it though.

>> No.4033137 [DELETED] 

>>4033123
>muh credits

fuck off

>> No.4033142
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4033142

starting to become a bit of a VETERAN at this https://my.mixtape.moe/udibbd.webm

>> No.4033143

>>4033137
> i deserve peoples work for free with no recognition for their efforts
no, you need to fuck off and get rid of that bullshit attitude

>> No.4033145

>>4033142
Could Kinsie or someone add modding tools for Samsara, so this stuff could appear as the demon keys in the Consolation Prize version of Doom 64?

>> No.4033149 [DELETED] 

>>4032058

Strife came out on Steam

store.steampowered.com/app/317040

>> No.4033152

>>4033149
Thanks, bye!

>> No.4033157

>>4033149
strife VE is old news boyo

>> No.4033158

>>4033152

Read again, my little dude.

STRIFE

As in, the RPG/FPS game

>> No.4033159 [DELETED] 

>>4033143
you don't deserve shit that's the point
try and stop me from using your assets fag

>> No.4033161
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4033161

>>4033149
heh, nice one friend

worth the 9 bucks, wait for sale or just tpb? guy who made it seems cool, releasing source and all

>> No.4033163
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4033163

>>4033107
>P.S. "Mark the car" captchas suck, especially if it shows a parking lot or highway.

>> No.4033165

>>4033158
Leave an old man alone.

>> No.4033167
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4033167

>>4033158
Have you even played the game?

>> No.4033167,1 [INTERNAL]  [DELETED] 

like flies on shit

>> No.4033168

>>4033161
It's a great source port by Doom community veterans, and has a wee bit of extra content which is always appreciated.

>> No.4033169

>>4032996

>>4033023 - forgot BMouse.

>> No.4033171

>>4033159
shove your hypocritical communism up your ugly ass

>> No.4033172

>>4033159
this is just bait.
you don't even mod.

>> No.4033174

>>4033149
foolproof bait
bait proven effective on fools

>> No.4033175

>>4033172
>>4033171
additional: now i'm pretty sure it's one guy replying to himself.

>> No.4033179

>>4033142
Whats the source on the musical bits? I recognise them from somewhere.

>>4033163
what is this?

>> No.4033180

>>4033174
yeah, you got me. i will take my ban for a false report with humble acceptance.

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4033185

>>4033142
>mfw they announced STRAFE I was all "wtf there is an old ass FPS already named like that"

>> No.4033186

>>4033179
Normal pickup sound is a mix of a Painkiller sound (because Samsara) and the very start of the Doom64 intro theme (because the SVE talismans are a big Doom 64 reference)

Got-all-three sound is a clip from the 20th Anniversary mix of the PSX Doom intro theme.

>> No.4033191

>>4033142
WHY ARE THE SOUNDS SO LOUD??

>> No.4033197

>>4033191
Turn your headphones down.

>> No.4033213

>>4033149
I love it. It made me take a second look before I got the joke. Good one anon.

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>>4033179
>>what is this?
Click "settings" in the upper-right-hand corner of the page. It gives you a captcha based on transcribing names signs instead.

>> No.4033239

>>4033216
>nigger nigger
that takes me a bit back
does that shit still work?

>> No.4033246

>>4033137
Sup Marquito.

>> No.4033254 [DELETED] 

>>4033172
i did mod for half-life and counter strike
only retarded faggots gave a shit about permissions to the point where people would sabotage their own mods in games like WC3 just so people couldn't open it up in the editor
if id had the same mentality there wouldn't be a doom thread

>> No.4033260
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4033260

>>4032996
I use this

>> No.4033265

>>4033239
sort of but it's less predictable which of the two words you are able to get wrong.

>> No.4033269

>>4032334

this shit is pretty fun, but I have some questions:

is it intentional that I lose the triple shot at the beggining of each level?

is there a way to NOT use the ice shot when firing normally to preserve ammo?

do i have to upgrade the missile to get the super missiles or is there a pickup for it?

what the fuck is the zoom weapon key supposed to do

>> No.4033280

>>4033107
I didn't get much of a tomb feel never mind a techno-tomb, if I hadn't read your description I'd have thought it was an E1 homage - green and brown walls aren't what I'd expect in a tomb, try marble or even rocky textures.

You should think about including pillars, sarcophaguses, treasure-rooms, trap-rooms, what would you expect in a tomb?

The trap that you did include, at the blue key, was neat but you did nothing with it unfortunately - put some pinkies or revenants down there, really drop the player into shit and make them think on their feet. I was also surprised that you didn't trap the player in the cage at the red key, such a great opportunity, definitely worth thinking about

Finally, as always, it's the barons. Be wary using barons when you're new to mapping as they are difficult to place interestingly; in your map the room is too spacious and there's nothing stopping me rushing the yellow door - maybe place ~2 barons behind the door with a vile and have the cages spawn plenty of imps instead? (same with the red key, it's easy to just run by the hell knights)

>> No.4033296

>>4033280
As I said, that was just the working title; maybe it was too misleading. It wasn't supposed to be much of a tomb-tomb, but rather some abandoned facility or temple or facility-temple. I tried to conceive a state of decay, of something horrible someone did there and you still see some remnants of it - with a lab, a depot (I hope it was recognizable as such), cracked ceilings and debris around the place.

You mean the trap with the drop, right? I put another trap there, but I wasn't sure whether people will fall for it or just pass it. Frankly, the trap you are probably talking about was just a setup for the other "actual" trap, which is skippable, though. Point noted, however, didn't think of doing something like you suggested.

But you are absolutely right with the yellow door (although the barons are also a trap). I always assumed people would try to get 'em all or die trying instead of just rushing, but yeah, maybe I was lazy in that regard.

Thanks for your feedback.

>> No.4033341
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DON'T INTERRUPT ME

>> No.4033349

>>4033341
Bill.wad when?

>> No.4033350

I love it when Oblige gives you a level with scarce ammo aside from rockets and fills it up with shitloads of cacodemons/chaingunners, and puts a bunch of revenants in monster closets.

>> No.4033357
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4033357

This was a waste of time.

At least I know how to get fonts into Doom now.

>> No.4033360

>>4033357
You have good taste anon.

>> No.4033363

Can someone help me remember the name of a map/megawad I played? All I remember is that MAP01 is a really dark open map with a large water area and a bunch of bridges.

>> No.4033364

>>4033357
Looks pretty good.

>> No.4033371

>>4033169
No I didn't, its not necessary. There was no Bmouse in 1997

>> No.4033373

>>4033357
lol

>> No.4033382
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>>4033349
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=9297

>> No.4033385
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>>4033239
In legacy captcha it does.

>> No.4033386
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4033386

>>4033357
Nothing is a waste of time so long as you learn something from it.

>> No.4033391

>>4032705
Sounds like nu-Quake's QuakeGuy

>> No.4033395

>>4032705
Reminds me of Caleb

>> No.4033401
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4033401

>>4032057

Heres the threadly reminder that you should get your Daily SLIGE Megawad, play it with a randomizer mod like DoomRL Arsenal for extra fun.

https://soulsphere.org/hacks/slige/

Remider that the wad in this website changes everyday, so tune in regularly for a new random challenge.

If anyone knows how to make good Doom demos so I can attach a webm to these posts it would be nice.

>> No.4033402

>>4033341
>fingers are nowhere near the trigger

>> No.4033403

>>4033391
I like nuQuakeGuy way, way more than that Doomguy. One of the only well-written and -acted characters in QC.

>> No.4033404

>>4033357

You have good taste, anon.

>> No.4033406

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyYTNZMoMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzIYVd-quA

>> No.4033407

>>4033406
>latefag

>> No.4033412
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4033412

>>4033403
You think so? Thought it was kinda forced.

Is the full game out yet? Played the beta, didn't think it was as cool as Q3 but it had its moments.

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>>4033406
Klesk is even making [ Autistic Screeching ] sounds, how appropriate.

>> No.4033415
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4033415

>>4033401
Yo that's pretty fuckin' sweet. Unlimited fucking doom wads.

>> No.4033420

>>4033415
you[ll quickly realise they're all pretty much the same

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>>4033412
>Thought it was kinda forced.
I mean I guess? I went into it expecting either "angry all the time" Ranger or "unhinged and nonsensical Shub-touched loony" Ranger, and was surprised to get something at neither extreme, just a sad, broken man who's spent over two decades stuck in the realms of the Old Ones and just really, really wants to go home.

For all the ANGERY RANGER jokes, I'm totally fine with Doomguy being the angel-powered unrelentingly pissed off bringer of death and Ranger just being some sad sack stuck as an eternal plaything of the Outer Gods who stopped being angry about the same time he realized he can't remember his name.

>> No.4033424

>>4033420
I figured as much, since odds are it's just piecing together random bits like a Snapmap level.

>> No.4033428

>>4032620
I agree, which is why I made the post in the first place wondering if there was a similar mod that didn't make retard decisions.

>> No.4033432

>>4033423
can i find voice clips online or do i actually have to play it?

>> No.4033434

>>4033423
not sure but i thought the angry characterization came from ranger's status bar face being a permanent grimace.

>> No.4033437

>>4033423
pretty much what i thought about NuRanger too
he seems rather calm and serene despite everything
and doomguy already called dibs man-shaped-ball-of-anger-with-the-mass-as-the-sun

>> No.4033438

>>4033424
slige is great if you like wood, monster closets, and waiting for lifts to go up a 32 unit ledge

>> No.4033439

>>4033174
>>4033172
What was it?

>> No.4033440
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4033440

>>4033415
I open the first door of the level and I already take it back, this is fucking terrible lel

>> No.4033441

>>4033440
Get the last WIP version of Oblige, maps look decent, and play okay, too.

>> No.4033447

>>4033440
THE ENTIRE FIRST LEVEL IS A LONG FLAT SHITTY HALLWAY

>> No.4033449

>>4033439
if you really care, you'll go to desuarchive or equivalent, and look up the post number.

>> No.4033458
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4033458

>>4033432
The NDA was lifted apparently so videos shouldn't be too hard to find, I thik his reveal trailer was also put up a few weeks ago. I still can't play myself due to the obscene upload bandwidth requirements but it's worth keeping up with.

>>4033434
More than likely, yeah. Not only does Quake 1 have even less backstory to work with than Doom (no continuing lore in other games, no intermission screens beyond numbers and the occasional paragraph that basically says "you touch the rune and lose a bit more of your mind," the instruction manual backstory doesn't even have anything to do with the rest of the game), but Ranger doesn't even get the suspiciously-looking-around animation like Doomguy, just various stages of pissed off, bleeding, and bleeding while pissed off. Only ones that differ are the maniacal grins for picking up a Pentagram or Quad Damage, aka "I can feel the old ones in my head and it is good" 'cause that shit sure ain't manmade.

>> No.4033459

>>4033447
At least it got the next-gen level design algorithms down pat.

>> No.4033460

>>4033439
an amusing variant on the theme of "[inappropriately aged non-retro game title] came out on [popular digital distribution platform]" where in this case the former was in fact one letter away from the usual so easy to misread.

>> No.4033463
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4033463

>>4033447
Map30 is just another shitty hallway runthrough, and Map31 and 32 aren't any better either.

C'mon, Slige-man, at least put in some type of randomly-situated Icon of Sin and a randomly-generated Wolfenstein hallway level since you're so good at entirely flat levels

>> No.4033472

>Recycled CP
unfortunate thread title...

>> No.4033473

>>4033472
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong thread.

>> No.4033474

>>4033463
lol listen to this

>SLIGE was listed on Doomworld's Top 10 Infamous WADs, due to the reason that the quality of the SLIGE-generated maps was so good that many unscrupulous mappers claimed that the maps were entirely their own handwork

it was soo good super high quality mapping

>>4033473
i just saw it on doomworld actually

>> No.4033475
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4033475

speaking of QC
i am making an LG that'll actually be balanced
because it's going to be used in SP, not MP

>> No.4033476
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4033476

>>4033473
>>4033472

>> No.4033480

>>4033476
can't wait for that dude to run for president

>> No.4033486

>>4033480
"ISIS, I'm Chris Hanson from Dateline NBC and the United States of America, why don't you take a seat over there?"

>> No.4033542

>>4033463

I'm not the one that runs the website.

>> No.4033550 [DELETED] 

>>4033439
crybaby modder whining about other people using his assets in a passive aggressive manner

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>>4033542
I know

>> No.4033560

>>4033553
Hello, Max.

>> No.4033582

how do i make bulletpuffs face the direction the shot went?
pitch wise, i mean. it resets to 0

>> No.4033602

>>4032479
The AD version of Crucial Error is fucking shit, especially with that shotgun mod that makes it no longer hitscan. The Bobs added were specifically there to be challenging to a normal shotgun, without it, it's nearly impossible.

Get the standalone version known as Mainframe Madness.

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>>4032058
[5-26]
Collecting some of the feedback for the map; with another bouts of feedback by Jimmy, I'm probably going to try and patch any game-breaking bugs and call it a map.

Texture and layout seem to be a problem in all of my maps, and one I'm never going to get over; doing so would be have to manditorily be the result of a collaborative mapping effort in the future, or it will remain how it is.

I Did this dumb thing in the meantime while giving the archvile room more cover

>> No.4033628
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4033628

So I installed NQuake. What do I do with my full version of Quake? Do I move NQuake or move Quake?

Or neither?

Halp.

>> No.4033637

>>4033628
If it's like other ports, just copy your Quake id1 folder to your nQuake directory.

>> No.4033638

>>4033447
>>4033463

Unfortunately that's all there is to SLIGE.

This is why people pick OBLIGE for randomly generated levels

>> No.4033640

>>4033614
>Texture and layout seem to be a problem in all of my maps, and one I'm never going to get over; doing so would be have to manditorily be the result of a collaborative mapping effort in the future, or it will remain how it is.
Why?

>> No.4033647

>>4033614
>doing so would be have to manditorily be the result of a collaborative mapping effort in the future
You really need to stop fucking pushing for collabs.

>> No.4033659

>>4033647
Calm the fuck down.

>>4033640
Because despite my continued efforts to do so; they fail to improve in any form, likely because I'm not making a mental connection and picking up on it or whatever the hell people mean by it.

image captcha:
STOP SIGN

>> No.4033664

>>4033269
>is there a way to NOT use the ice shot when firing normally to preserve ammo?
Not right now at least, I'm afraid, ice ammo is shell based so it should be pretty common.

>do i have to upgrade the missile to get the super missiles or is there a pickup for it?
Yeah, grab a rocket launcher and you'll boost your missiles

>what the fuck is the zoom weapon key supposed to do
Have you found a screw attack yet? It's a BFG tier weapon and it makes use of the Zoom key

>> No.4033665

>>4033659
have you tried studying existing maps

>> No.4033668

>>4033665
Always.

>> No.4033690

>>4033664

ok, thanks man

what about losing the triple shot? maybe its a bug or something

>> No.4033695

>>4033690
oh shit right, yeah, the effects of Spazer is only for the duration of the stage you find it in, I mean have you seen how much damage you can shit out with that thing? It pretty much makes any level you find it in free.

>> No.4033751
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4033751

>download new GZDoom
>On Windows and macOS the system's MIDI synth is no longer the default. Instead, FluidSynth and a small soundfont are now included to provide better default playback quality.
>start playing Doom 2 just to test it out

I don't know why I hate it

I know its better, objectively, empirically. But fuck me I can't believe I'd rather have the default Entryway music.

>> No.4033754

>>4033751
Use the arachno soundfound, my man my dude my bro.

>> No.4033760

>>4032146
>exposed male navel
You think they'd just go with armorized abs.

>> No.4033772
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4033772

Any solid scary/survival horror WADS?

Or shit that feels like a horror movie? I'm feeling ready to sweat and count my bullets.

>> No.4033780
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4033780

>>4033772
Anon's ATUD. New version will come out soon.

>> No.4033801
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>>4033780
I liked parts of it, but i'm looking for a good map pack to play it with.
I fucking loved The Aliens TC reboot using his weapons and NPC's though. That was batshit amazing.

Still looking for more, can never have enough solid horror wads.
Already beat City of the Damned: Apocalypse and that one is also pretty great.

Same with Zombies: Epidemic edition, for the most part.

>> No.4033814

>>4033751
then switch it to microsoft gs wavetable. the change was because there's plenty of midis that straight out don't play on the old default

>> No.4033827
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>>4033801
I really want to get into mapmaking so I can make maps that play well with this mod.
The random spawning makes a lot of map packs almost unplayable, particularly ones with lots of teleporters or ones that rely exclusively on ambushes. It can really shine if you make a map that takes it into account, though.

I'm thinking about making hubs instead of conventional maps with lots of alternative ways to reach an objective, which in a mod like this is very welcome, since that can give you a way to bypass hordes or even lone enemies if you are low on ammo or something like that. Also lots of pipes, vents, and places where they can come out of the GODAMNED WALLS etc.

>> No.4033832

>>4033827
You might want to check out EYE Divine Cybermancy for map ideas of that nature. The maps are as huge and cluttered as the game is awful.

>> No.4033845

Hey Kinsie, in Metadoom v4, when a sector rises from a sector with a nukage flat, it still plays the nukage footstep sound despite the sector having an entirely new flat.

I'm using GZDoom 3.1, Metadoom v4, and I found the problem in DTWID-LE.wad (E5M3, in the room with the red key. Pretty sure the extra MAPINFO-exclusive levels are supposed to be vanilla compatible.)

>> No.4033849

>>4033772
Played Legacy of Suffering awhile back, thought it was pretty cool. Its fairly linear with scripted events, has that Doom 3 style going with dark corridors and spooky spawns.
Music is neat too when it kicks in.

>> No.4033856

Does anyone have a solution for Doom RPG's scripts breaking in the latest GZDoom? It says Runaway script terminated and all the menus stop working. I could downgrade GZDoom but that causes issues with revenant sounds. Maybe fixing that would be easier...

>> No.4033862
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4033862

Do you guys ever stream on twitch? I'm trying to get into it. Watch me play through TNT Revilution.. I have no friends.

twitch/jcr9001

>> No.4033865

>>4033186
>the SVE talismans are a big Doom 64 reference

Wait, what?
Those sprites are in the original Strife IWAD, I'm sure of it.

>> No.4033868
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>>4033827
>and places where they can come out of the GODAMNED WALLS etc.

Hearing them in the fucking walls was the epitome of the creep factor for the TC reboot for me. It's pretty much a bug on Doom's end, but the motion tracker never stopping on some levels because one of them was hiding SOMEWHERE never stopped creeping me the fuck out, especially once you ended up triggering something which sends that pack in after you.
If not for some of the weaponry being pretty overpowered, TC 2017 might be the best Aliens experience on PC.

The Trilogy TC feels like it is really getting there at times, but it's like 80-90% there currently. Hub maps in this kind of mod would be amazing, and more open ended maps tend to work really well for survival horror wads. Ducking into a room to run from enemies to find more ammo and a pack to bring you up to half health always feels good.
Hell, Terminator: Future Shock and Skynet have an entire gameplay element based around that with scavenging buildings so they don't have to place health kits and ammo traditionally.

>>4033849
I'll check it out in a bit. Replaying Zombies: Epidemic edition and it is much, much better than I remember. I just wish I knew what all the items do as it's rather hard to tell with some of them.

>> No.4033875

>>4033862

I stream weekly, but it's mostly just working on stuff/mapping. I like to watch folks play, though. It's fun to see them go through maps.

>> No.4033887

>>4033875
>he admires god players while he himself humps the same wall 3 times each room and misses every single switch and door

>> No.4033891

>>4033887
>god players
i think everyone admires god players, anon

>> No.4033892

>>4033875
What's your twitch? I like watching people make maps

>> No.4033893

>>4033887
Who doesn't admire god players?

>> No.4033896

>>4032057
Those Doom wad packs are dead. Guys have a better link?

>> No.4033901

>>4033036
Oh, well, that does make sense (>>4032918 here) as I happen to a FOSS programmer. Sure, I can do competent art compared to most programmers, but I always treated it the same way as my code.
People will just help themselves to free stuff, it's how it is, so if they happen to choose yours over others, it means you did a decent job.

Credit would be nice, sure, but I noticed most do it more out of laziness than actual malice, so no point getting angry over it, thus my attitude about it.

>> No.4033915

>>4033892

twitch(.)tv/terminusest13
I don't often map, but this weekend I'll do mapstuff just for you, anon.

>> No.4033918

>>4033915
looking forward to it

any other anons want to share their twitch?
maybe we can get a regular stream/mapping night going.

>> No.4033920

What if Microsoft worked with Night Dive Studios to make Perfect Dark EX?

>> No.4033930

yo term, you got painkiller item sounds you could drop here?

>> No.4033936

>>4033920
>Bill Gates promotes it by dressing up as Joanna Dark with fake boobs and all and pretending to be her before walking in front of the camera a la that one Doom promo thing he was in

>> No.4033941 [DELETED] 

>>4033936
>Have Ballmer do it

>> No.4033942

>>4033930

Sure. I'll upload the entire Painkiller sound collection, in case folks need the weapon/menu sounds for things.
It's uploading right now, but should take about fifteen minutes or so before it's ready.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zpiom4237atk5kl/Painkiller.zip?dl=1

>> No.4033945

>>4033936
Have Ballmer do it.

>> No.4033948

>>4033942
noice man

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>>4033942
wow the sound design in painkiller was revolutionary and way ahead of its time

>> No.4033957

>>4033952
>It's uploading right now, but should take about fifteen minutes or so before it's ready.

>> No.4033958

>>4033952
t. someone who didn't read the post

>> No.4033959

>>4033952

Still uploading, friend.

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>>4033957
>>4033958
>>4033959

boi is my face red

>> No.4033968

>>4033960

It's fine, anon. It should be uploaded now, so give it a shot again.

>> No.4033983

>>4033942
>item sounds
>500MB
Dayum. Either that's really high quality, or that's a lot of sounds.

Thanks, man, I'll have to give this a look.

>> No.4033986

>>4033983
Almost 5500 files. wew

>> No.4033989

>>4033983
>>4033986

I uploaded the entire sound collection. Painkiller has a lot of sounds.
The majority of them are for different level ambiences and the monster sounds, the items are actually very much in the minority.

>> No.4034014
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4034014

Who here thinks they got DOOM right?

>> No.4034017

>>4034014
I don't recognize any of these references because I'm not a fuckin' weeb.

>> No.4034026

>>4034014
I do.

>> No.4034029

>>4034014
I guess these are idol games or some shit? Which one is Doom supposed to be?

>> No.4034030

>>4034014
>[email protected]

I have no opinion on the Doom one, but I do want to see an entire boxart of that.

>> No.4034032
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4034032

Someone on the doomworld forums pointed out my dudes proportions were fucked. It's a bit better now.

I should sketch things out first. It's been a while since I did anything 2D though. Rusty as fuck.

>> No.4034035

>>4034029
Doom appears to be K-ON!!

>>4034030
Battlefield appears to be [email protected]

>> No.4034036

>>4034029
They're anime, I recognize [email protected] as [email protected], and World of Tanks as Girls und Panzer.
Dunno about the rest.

>> No.4034037

>>4034036
Upon closer inspection, Rainbow Six Siege is styled after Kemono Friends.
The paw print gave it away.

>> No.4034046
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>>4034037
>Rainbow Six Siege
>styled after Kemono Friends.

Would unironically play and enjoy.

>> No.4034063

I've been searching a gameplay mod that was popular a few months ago in zandronum but can't seem to rembmer it's name. I remember it mainly focused in making you avoid direct combat -landmines and grenades were a big chunk of that, iirc- because your character was so fragile.

>> No.4034119

>>4034063
Complex Doom has a lot of that going on because enemies are so dangerous

>> No.4034137
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4034137

>Blood birthday
>OP is yet another bone meme

>> No.4034147

>>4034137
don't worry, blood's getting the treatment it deserves

>> No.4034151

>>4034147
Blood doesn't deserve to be forgotten fag.

Shadow Warrior does however, and that game got a fucking update.

>> No.4034157

>>4034147
>>4034151
And here we have it.
The most wrong opinions possible.

>> No.4034167
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>>4034157
Says the dude who loves dick jokes, bland weapons and anime girls

Blood at least had an interesting setting, interesting weapons and pretty good level design, as well as a protagonist we couldn't have now because he'd be seen as too edgy to be likable.

>> No.4034169

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3obKYvJrxM&ab_channel=DooMero

>> No.4034171

>>4034167
>he doesn't love dick jokes and anime girls

>> No.4034173

>>4034167
>Says the dude who loves dick jokes and anime girls

You clearly do not belong on 4chan.

>> No.4034174

>>4032221
so many characters dab in this game

>> No.4034175

>>4034167
>Says the dude who loves dick jokes [...] and anime girls
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>> No.4034179
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4034179

Does Episode 2 of BTSX improve eventually? I'm currently on Dirty Water and so far has felt like a huge slog through Bone City.

>> No.4034181

>>4034167
You don't like dick jokes or anime girls? I don't think we can be friends, I'm sorry.

>> No.4034183

>>4034181
>>4034175
>>4034173
>>4034171
Shadow Warrior is the Sharknado of retro shooters.

>> No.4034185

>>4034167
>doesn't like dick jokes or anime girls
>likes lmao so bloody and edgy characters.
hmmmm

>> No.4034190

>>4034183
and blood is the Ghost Dad of retro shooters

>> No.4034192

>>4034190
>>4034183
Doom is the Mortal Kombat: Annihilation of retro shooters

>> No.4034195

>>4034190

Quake is the Robocop of Retro Shooters

>> No.4034196

>>4034185
>>4034190

>likes lmao so bloody and edgy characters.

Caleb actually works though because it's an comparatively silly character in what is basically a grimdark setting. Blood is Evil Dead 2 to Shadow Warrior's Adam Sandler comedy.

>> No.4034198

>>4034196
no, sorry, blood has already been established as Ghost Dad

>> No.4034201

>>4034196
>Blood is Evil Dead 2 to Shadow Warrior's Adam Sandler comedy.
What? No.
Blood is Ghost Dad.
He just said, dude, you can't go changing that.

>> No.4034203

>>4034195
What.

>> No.4034204

>>4034195
>>4034192
>>4034190
>>4034183
Wolfenstein is the Goodfellas of retro shooters.

>> No.4034206

when /doom/ got invaded by the faggots from Blood community forums?

>> No.4034207
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>>4034198
I wrote that comment first though

baka y'all can enjoy your shitty retro FPS where the first level is a fucking boat section in a build engine game

>> No.4034208

>>4034207
>b-baka
thanks, senpai
it'll be tanoshii as fuck

>> No.4034210

>>4034204

Unreal is the Jurassic Park of retro shooters.

>> No.4034215

>>4034210
>>4034204
>>4034195
>>4034192
>>4034190
>>4034183
But what one is the Citizen Kane?

>> No.4034217

>>4034215
The Terminator: Future Shock

>> No.4034218

>>4034215
by process of elimination of movie/games already correlated, the only surviving one is hexen

hexen is the citizen kane of retro shooters

god help us all

>> No.4034219
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>>4034218
Can't argue with that.

>> No.4034220

>>4034195
Unironically this.

>> No.4034225

>>4034218
>slow paced as fuck
>everyone knows about the final twist
>technically fantastic
>paved the way for better games/films

By god, it checks out.

>> No.4034226

>>4034157
>shadow warrior
>better than blood
>dude lets just give a bunch of enemies instant missile attacks and but them in narrow corridors lol

>> No.4034235

>>4032479
>>4033602
I like Crucial Error. I think it's better than Terror Fuma because it has lots of good psychology and demands skilled movement in its encounters. Terror Fuma's encounters feel largely plain and haphazard in comparison.

>> No.4034237
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>map spawns arch-vile right next to you

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>>4034237
>regular Oblige generated map turns into slaughtermap without warning halfway through

>> No.4034273

>>4034237
>>4034242
have you friends tried that new WIP version?

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>>4034273
Yup. But up until yesterday I was still using the ancient version 6.

>> No.4034381

Man, For something thats meant to be a TNT sequel/tribute, TNT Revilution sure reminds me of Memento Mori II a lot.

Also lol at idgames basically forcing them to make it require TNT.wad instead of Doom2.wad, despite the project leader's past insistence on using doom2.wad.

>> No.4034396

>>4034063
Oh! And the pistol was a six-shot. Please if I can't find it's name it'l bugger me for weeks.

>> No.4034401

So I see there's a lot of shitposting about Blood. I just want to ask: what's the best modern port or way to play it? I'm just thinking of GXBlood at this point.

>> No.4034407

>>4034381
>Also lol at idgames basically forcing them to make it require TNT.wad instead of Doom2.wad, despite the project leader's past insistence on using doom2.wad.

Probably for the better, as I'm sure making a TNT sequel require Doom2.wad would've created confusion among the demo recording scene (Doom 2 uses complevel 2, where as final doom is complevel 4).

>> No.4034449

fucking fucksticks is there a mod like HD that doesn't make you move like a fucking parapalegic FUCK?

>> No.4034450
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>>4034449
>wanting slow and steady gameplay in Doom of all games

>> No.4034452
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>tfw too dumb to quickly complete maps the first time I play them

>> No.4034456

>>4034452
Par Time is for speedrunning, and some mods don't even change them from Vanilla Doom's par times.

>> No.4034457

>>4034179
BTSX being a boring slog is a long running joke, so no.

>> No.4034458

So I want to map a city themed map/maps, where can I find a texture pack to use? Are there websites dedicated to these kind of things?

>> No.4034460

>>4034452
oh jesus christ fuck this archvile map in Plut 2

>> No.4034463

looking for a mod with a spite randomizer, just for aesthetics rather than more game play

>> No.4034465

>>4034463
Smooth Doom

>> No.4034468

>>4034463
colorful hell

>> No.4034471

>>4034179
>BTSX Episode 2 a boring slog because of revenants

People like you are boring.

>> No.4034478

>>4033772
see, this looks identical to the icon of sin. It's just in a higher resolution.

People should look at this when they try to make HD sprites.

>> No.4034480

>>4033845
I didn't write the footstep script, Zombie did, and he used GDCC or whatever, which I've never used before, so I can't really do much about it myself. Sorry. Maybe if Zombie does that ZScript rewrite he was pondering at one point...

>>4033865
They are (for two of them, anyway), but the pickup messages are straight from Doom 64.

>>4033920
There's already a modern port for Xbox 360. It will never get a PC version because the company that made it (4J Studios) is now a key part of the Minecraft factory.

>> No.4034506
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4034506

You're playing Doom when this guy comes up and slaps you on the ass, what do you do?

>> No.4034507
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>>4034506

>> No.4034508

>>4034506
BFG it until its dead

>> No.4034512

Let's say I want to make a map that uses Duke 3D textuers, and I downloaded the textures from Realm 667, and they came in a .wad file. My question is: how can I put those textures into my wad so that I can simply load the wad using doom 2 as a base without having to bundle the duke wad with the map?
Adding to this, is there a way to only include certain textures, like say the ones I actually use in the map, so my wad isnt 20 MB large with 80% of the textures going unused?

>> No.4034514

>>4034449
Nope, but with the console you can use Turbo to increase your speed.

>> No.4034526

>>4034508
>wasting BFG on a single martian

>> No.4034530
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>>4034506
I turn around and punch him for slapping me in the hip b- ass. Slapping me in the ass, with flesh on it.

>> No.4034536
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>>4034526
>Letting that unbalanced piece of shit run amok for even a second instead of putting him down instantly

It's like you WANT to die.

>> No.4034559

which map set is best for play with meta doom?

>> No.4034569

>>4034559
The logical conclusion would be DTWID, DINO, D2INO, Switcheroom, and D2TWID.

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>>4034530
Oh hey Boner! Come dance with me!

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>>4034530
Oh hey Pvt. Boner! Come dance with me!

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>>4034530
>>4034530
Oh hey Pvt. Parts Boner! Come dance with me!

>> No.4034582
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>>4034580
>>4034578
>>4034575

>> No.4034583
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>>4034580
3rd times a charm.

>> No.4034585
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>>4034530
Oh hey Pvt. Johnson "Boner" Parts! Come dance with me!

>> No.4034587

>>4034512
Hello?

>> No.4034589

>>4034583
>>4034582
is
>>4034585
sorry. the joke has to be perfect.

>> No.4034591

Hold on a minute, I downloaded a Roland SC-55 soundfont for fluidsynth and it doesn't load, what gives? It loads with other soundfonts.

>> No.4034592

>>4034589
jesus fuck my brain is dead.
didn't mean to imply samefaggotry; i meant i didn't think the joke was sufficient.

>> No.4034594

>>4034589
Go to bed, anon

>> No.4034595

>>4034591
https://a.pomf.cat/sqhqzz.sf2
This sc55 soundfont works for me

>> No.4034596

>>4034591
wait nevermind, I fixed it.

>> No.4034598

>>4034569
thanks, never heard of Switcheroom but after seeking it out it looks perfect

>> No.4034603

>>4034595
Thanks anon, I downloaded mine from here. http://www.mediafire.com/file/gbxaqsyxlyy6x3t/Roland+SC-55+Soundfont.7z
yours sounds a bit better though.

>> No.4034612

>>4034603
I got mine here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tmN1a3cDMg and unpacked it with SFPACK

>> No.4034635
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>>4034449
Call of Doom 0.85c
http://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-doom-cod-style-advanced-weapons-mod/addons/call-of-doom-v085-cod-style-70-weapons-for-doom

>Health kits can only be picked up, must use them manually.
>Most health pickups in a map have been replaced with ammo.
>Green Armor does not exist. Only blue armor, which is rare.
>You are squishy, but so are monsters, thanks to guns.
>Guns need to reloaded though, so you need to be strategic about using them.
>You can throw guns at enemies to stun them.
>You can use up one SMG's ammo, toss it aside, pickup another one on the ground and use it's full ammo supply instead of reloading.
>Made in glorious nippon by a japanese modder, folded thousand times to perfection.
>Can be used without Brutal Doom too.

This shit is fuckin intense yo.

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>>4034594
I can't.

>> No.4034684

>>4034635
>Can be used without Brutal Doom too.
Scratch that one. It actually does rely on brutal doom. My bad.

>> No.4034717

Hey Kinsie, how would you feel about MetaDoom appearing in the Cacowards?

>> No.4034720

>>4034717
I'd say there's little chance of that, but now that I think about it there hasn't been a lot of standout gameplay mods released this year outside of D4T.
And I can almost guarantee D4T won't get anything, since it's pretty much an offshoot of D4D.

>> No.4034723

>>4034720
Well, since your latest update kinda "finished" your mod, while also having some neat features, it could be great.
You even did documentation on zscript intermission.

>> No.4034724

>>4034723
Not Kinsie, just a bystander offering thoughts.

>> No.4034726

>>4034724
Ok

>> No.4034734

>DWmegawad Club is playing Newgothic Movement 2 and Deus Vult II

This should be fun to read.

>> No.4034873

>>4033751
You're just too used to it. Micro$oft MDI is genuinely the worst of the worst there is.

>> No.4034887

>>4034587
>how can I put those textures into my wad
SLADE. Somebody mentioned some time ago that it can also remove unused textures from a wad, so there you go.

>> No.4034895

>>4033832
What's wrong anon? Something bothering you?
Are your legs OK?

>> No.4034896

>>4033832
EYE isn't awful, it's just genuinely depressing.

>> No.4034898
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>>4034896
What's so depressing about using your cyber legs to clear small building and backstab a french cyberdemon with a fucking power hammer? I never thought the story was all that depressing, after all in the very end, even if you break your cycles of guilt, you can choose to continue cycling, you pretty just embrace the madness because nothing makes sense other than gaining Brouzouf

>> No.4034902

>>4034734
That sounds fun. I think I'll join in.

>> No.4034912

>>4034898
The game world's set up to be pretty quiet, dreary and empty, especially more so when you figure out the meaning behind it all.
Also good job breaking the seal and disappointing Circe.

>> No.4034914

>>4034896
The game itself isn't the best but it's got a lot of good ideas. I'm wondering if any of the maps could be remade in GZD but they'd probably hit some kind of limit pretty quickly or end up running like ass.

>> No.4034925

>>4034242
>comfy oblige map
>walk into the teleporter
>suddenly surrounded by the horde of mancubi and hell knights
>a fucking archville guarding exit switch

>> No.4034948
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4034948

To the modders around here:

Is something like pic related possible?

I'll suck ya dick if you make it mod.

>> No.4034950

>>4034948
Pretty sure there's already stuff like that with hp bars and floating numbers and all.

>> No.4034951

>>4034948
Also interested.

This is the closest I've found:
>>4032756
>>4032810
>>4032947

>> No.4034952

>>4034950
My google-fu must be weak. Can't find anything...

>> No.4034958

>>4034948

Yes, ZDoom wars does exactly that with some units.

>> No.4034962

so close, yet... https://my.mixtape.moe/bbpxfw.webm

>> No.4034963

>>4034962
>https://my.mixtape.moe/bbpxfw.webm
context?

>> No.4034969

>>4034963
Just seeing if certain code ideas work before I commit to them for a bigger mod.

>> No.4034973

>>4034969
What mod?

>> No.4034974

>>4034962
Can you do it the other way around?
>Doom II: TURBO

>> No.4034991

>>4034962
Universal Bullet Time Addon Mod? : O

>> No.4034992

>>4034635
These white pixels are ugly though.

>> No.4034997

>>4034635
I really like whole idea, but sprites are horrible. Not only they have white pixels, but also dev fucked up scaling, so now we have jaggies. Ruins whole mod.

>> No.4035010

>>4034992
>>4034997
>caring about muh graphics on a game from 1994

Aren't you guys playing doom for the gameplay like I am?

>> No.4035036
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>>4034991
>Bullet Time

>> No.4035054
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>>4034506
I find that in many situations like these, there are some very simple but effective solutions.

>> No.4035110

>>4035010
Doom has very beautiful graphics, and that horrible, horrible, lazy rip of a model stands out like a sore thumb.

Model rips have been done for Doom mods since the 90's, and it hasn't always been pretty, but generally, people try to at least clean the sprites up so that they aren't lined with a bunch of errant stray pixel fuzz, because that just looks too shit.

>> No.4035118

What exactly is knee deep in zdoom and why do people seem to dislike it?

>> No.4035121

>>4035010
I'm with the other guys on this one. If you're making a mod at least clean up your sprites. It's not a mountaindew&doritos 420 noscope mod.

>> No.4035130

>>4035118
It's a remake of the first episode of Doom but with Zdoom features all over the place. People hate it because muh purity and they haven't figured out that they're not obligated to play it.

>> No.4035136

>>4035110
>>4035121

Huh, I guess I am the only one who cares about gameplay more than graphics.

Well whatever, give it a try anyway. I predict you'll appreciate it once you get going with it.

>> No.4035154

>>4034225
final twist in hexen? wut?

>> No.4035158

>>4033371
Yes it is. Mouse look is fucking awful.

>> No.4035163

>>4035130
actually people hate it cause of shitty level design filled with switchhunting, shitty encounters, and overall making what's usually a bite-sized little distraction a giant boring slog

>> No.4035172

>>4035136
Nobody is debating that gameplay > graphics. Everyone is just asking a lazy-ass modder to clean his sprites, that's all.

>> No.4035173

>>4034948
I think PRBoom+ can do just that out of the box.

>> No.4035175

what are the hottest wads of 2017 lads?

>> No.4035176

>>4035175
The ones that didnt come out yet

>> No.4035179

>>4035175
Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard.

>> No.4035190

>>4035118
Hunting for keys and switches all over the god damn place, way too many enemy types bloat the monster roster, unfair encounters. Too many keys, I know I already said it, it bears mentioning again. Silver key, green key, orange key, it's fucking madness

>> No.4035191

>>4035190
>>4035163
These, it has some neat tricks but by the time you finish it you feel not triumph but exhastion

>> No.4035197

>>4034396
Isn't that the "Shut up and Bleed" mod ?

>> No.4035209
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4035209

I know the duke nukem 3d world tour port sucked but is the new Alien World Order episode any good in terms of level design?

>> No.4035223

>>4035209
Not really. It's basically levels from people who last made some mapping ages ago.

>> No.4035224

>>4035209
>I know the duke nukem 3d world tour port sucked

It's better than Megaton. Also after release, they patched it and fixed all the main issues people were complaining about.

> is the new Alien World Order episode any good in terms of level design?

Maps range from good to great.
2 of them, Mirrage Barrage and Golden Carnage, shine out and are really great.
The rest is 'only' good. Mostly the other maps feel like usermaps, but good usermaps, with really good gameplay flow.

If you like DN3D it's worth the price. 20 years after release, new maps by some of the original level designers + new musics by one of the original composers? Totally worth it, a "retro" fan dream come true

>> No.4035226

>>4035224
Since when did you worked for Gearbox?

>> No.4035227

>>4035224
>and fixed all the main issues people were complaining about
So they re-released all the other games they pulled from the stores?

>> No.4035234
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4035234

>>4035224
>It's better than Megaton

wut

>> No.4035247

>>4035234
Port is better than Megaton because it's literally a fork of eDuke32 with different lighting code and backported timerewind feture from XBox port.

release itself sucked because of all removed content and intentional incompatibility with eDuke32 mods.

>> No.4035298

I'm ashamed to admit the only way I could beat Plut 2 was by playing on i'm too young to die

>> No.4035337

>>4035298
i assume that means you started at the beginning and carried weapons through each map until the end. no pistol starts or whatever. will you play it again, or do you only ever play wads once?

>> No.4035349

>>4035337
I may play it again when I acquire proficiency.

>> No.4035373

Caco went to /aco/

>> No.4035378

>>4035373
Did he come back?

>> No.4035381

>>4035378
He started posting on his blog again.

>> No.4035384

>>4035234
Megaton was full of glitches. Not only existant glitches were much easier to pull off, but it also introduced new ones. There is a reason speedrunners used it.
This isn't the case with WT.

Megaton used a forced 3D renderer, which even if it was improved on, was still innacurate with the game's original look. Not only WT has a better 3D renderer (without counting the dynamic lights), but it also offers the possibility to use the original 2.5D one, which wasn't the case in Megaton.

Worldtour has true widescreen support. Megaton's "widescreen" was a zoom in.

Megaton's online has a lot of latency.

That's for the main points

>>4035247
WT has the same Steam Workshop support as Megaton.

> intentional incompatibility with mods

More like it wasn't worth bothering with, and they were right, because frankly everyone who plays and makes mods use EDuke32. Noone, absolutely no-one, would use WT fo mods.

>> No.4035390

how come when i summon reavers and crusaders in doom they appear invisible how do i make them visible

>> No.4035392

>>4035390
Load the sprites

>> No.4035395

>>4035392
i how do that?

>> No.4035396

>>4035384
So yeah, the only real downside is the absence of the original add-ons.

Frankly I suspect the reason behind this is because the rights, or a licence, are probably hell to acquire. Who the fuck even knows which publishers own those add-ons nowadays...
I could be wrong but I have guessed that Megaton included them, but without asking the rights owners or paying anything for them. Frankly, it seems that whoever owns those add-ons, don't even know they do, or don't care, but that still doesn't make it right.

>> No.4035398

>>4035395
add whichever wads they're in to the command line / launcher / whatever else you use to load the game

>> No.4035402

>>4035396
Isn't the maker pettily pissed off with the duke franchise, and tries to kill it regularly?

>> No.4035406
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>>4035398
I don't have to rip them out of strife and put them in a separate wad? Because I've tried loading strife with Doom and all it gives me is texture errors.

>> No.4035410

>>4035381
Is he actually drawing Doom stuff, or is he still drawing horse dicks?

>> No.4035412

>>4035406
oh right yeah you're gonna have to extract them then. maybe someone's done it already and they're on realm667 or something.

>> No.4035429

Also this song comes to mind when I summonfriends on console.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-gYOrU8bA

>> No.4035468

>>4035410
He hasn't drawn any futa in a while, if that's what you mean.
Nothing of that draenei either.

>> No.4035487
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4035487

I can't help but find the legs kinda cute.

>> No.4035490

>>4035487
Because they end in what looks like big rubber hooves, did the cyberdemon get a composite form or is it still just the 64 version?

>> No.4035510

>>4035190
>>4035191
>>4035163
Glad to see some people felt the same way. The levels are so fucking gigantic and labyrinthian it's a chore to play.

>> No.4035517
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>>4035197
It is.
Thanks Anon. Have a wizard spider.

>> No.4035520

>>4035490
>>4035487
I love Kinsie's mastermind, but I think the legs should have ended in pointy feet like the N64 arachnotron's for consistency sake. But then again, that might not have been his priority so, eh.

>> No.4035540
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4035540

>>4034014
>>4034017
>>4034026
>>4034029
>>4034030
>>4034035
>>4034036
A little research reveals that the first one is Love Live School Idol Festival.

>> No.4035553

Does anyone here have realaim.pk3 and footsteps.pk3? The dropbox links aren't working.

>> No.4035562

>>4032057
>Scythe 2 levels are designed to be completed quickly
Do I just need to git gud?

>> No.4035565
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4035565

>mfw trying to find the first few Doom .wads I've ever played, as they introduced me to the wonderful world of Doom and Doom modding ten years ago.

The sad part is they're probably all complete garbage and not worth all the effort if I do find them.

>> No.4035570

>>4035562
That's Scythe 1 anon.

>> No.4035576

>>4035540
>little research
pffft, yeah right
todokete

>> No.4035578

>>4035562
>>4035570
they were made quickly, certainly. but completed quickly? aside from one notorious example, you can take as long as you want

>> No.4035591

>>4035576
No, I seriously had to run the names of different cutesy anime through google images until I tried Love Live, including ones that I should have known to exclude, like Sailor Moon. You are a hipper weeb than I, Anon.

>> No.4035593

>>4035565
>first wad was doom 2 extreme with nashgore
i want to play it again and just revel in the stolen iwad levels and dehacked-ness with lightposts spewing blood

>> No.4035595
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>>4035517

>> No.4035603

Smooth Doom or Beautiful Doom?

>> No.4035607

>>4035603
Comfy Doom.

>> No.4035610

>>4035603
I like smooth doom. Try that. Look at beautiful doom if you don't like smooth. I've never played with it.

>>4035607
pffftttahaahahaha

>> No.4035615
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4035615

Does anyone happen to know of any wads out there that work with gameplay mods so that autosaving happens when you get a keycard? I've tried using fas-key_autosave.wad but it doesn't seem to work with any that I've tried.

>> No.4035673
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4035673

What's a good map to play with these?
I feel like playing something slow paced.

>> No.4035729

>>4035673
> two enemy and weapon changing gameplay mods

>> No.4035730

>>4035673

Dissolution is the first thing that comes to mind.

>> No.4035750

is there any mod that makes monsters in project brutality act and do damage of the vanilla monsters? I wanna use the traditional weapon set but those monsters just fuck me up

>> No.4035754

>>4035750
wait what
you want vanilla weapons and vanilla monsters
so you play with mods
???

>> No.4035758

>>4035754
i like the gore and the eriance weapon sprites look nice, okay?

>> No.4035772

>>4035758
I'm pretty sure there's a vanilla monsters option somewhere in the settings.

>> No.4035779

>>4035758
Okay I figured it out. Go to the Project Brutality settings in the main menu, then go to Global Settings. Then in Advanced Monster Spawns, disable all the monster variants you don't want. Then in Configure Monster Abilities, disable all the special abilities of monsters you don't want.

>> No.4035795

>>4035779
This is close, but some things are still in there, like the hitscanners being more accurate and not really hitscanners, and the pain elemental exploding, etc. The only mod that does exactly what i want is johnny doom, guess i'll stick with that and wait till the next version of PB maybe adds it

>> No.4035801

>>4035795
The only other thing I can think of is to get the ketchup mod, which adds Brutal Doom's gore without any gameplay changes, and as a bonus lets you play it with some other gameplay mods with little-to-no interference.

>> No.4035803

>>4035758
Sounds like it'd be good to just use ErianceWeps and Ketchup.

>> No.4035840

>>4035673
Playstation Doom

>> No.4035847
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4035847

How do I make an SNDINFO lump?

>> No.4035853

>>4035847
By making a file and naming it SNDINFO.

It's that easy.

>> No.4035862

>>4035853
in text?

>> No.4035869
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4035869

>>4035862

Yes.

>> No.4035871
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4035871

Just finished UAC ultra with Space Hunter, fun as all shit.

man, this wand weapon is fucking scary, it can stunlock cyberdemons and masterminds until they give up life

>> No.4035873

>>4035869
github confuses me, how do I download the predefined sndinfo from there?

>> No.4035880

>>4035873

...What in the world are you trying to do?

>> No.4035889

>>4035880
Trying to make an SNDINFO lump, but I don't know how. Do I just make a text document, import it then that's it?

>> No.4035890 [DELETED] 

>>4035880
You speak like reddt

>> No.4035893

>>4035889

You just make a file in your wad/pk3 named SNDINFO. That's it.

>> No.4035904

>>4035893
I click "new entry", name it SNDINFO and that's it? Is it suppose to be labeled "marker"? Just making sure for a friend.

>> No.4035915

>>4035904
now edit is like you would a text file
slade has 'view as text'
open with notepad, don't need to save it as .txt

>> No.4035920
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>>4035915
open with notepad where?

>> No.4035924

>>4035920
> open with slade
> OR
> open with notepad
you have it open so shut up and get to work
we ain't paying you to sit around doing nothing all day

>> No.4035930
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4035930

>>4035924
i do it right? The sound still doesn't play.

>> No.4035931

Besides Equinox, what are some good map wads with terrible music?

I want to listen to other things while I play but I dont want to miss original music when its present

>> No.4035935

>>4035930
>i do it right?
you've never actually said what you're trying to do aside from make a sndinfo file and i'm starting to think you're intentionally playing dumb.

>> No.4035938

>>4035930

That is indeed a SNDINFO file, yes.

>> No.4035941

>>4035931
>Equinox
>Good
I hope you like archviles my dude.

>> No.4035942

>>4035941
archviles are cool and fun, so yes

>> No.4035943
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4035943

>>4035935
it's my first time making a wad, im making an sndinfo file so i can spawn strife people in doom

>> No.4035948

>>4035943
did you include the actual sound files?

>> No.4035951

>>4035943

In that case, you don't need an sndinfo file at all. The sndinfo file is automatically loaded in gzdoom.pk3.
What you need are the sound effects.

>> No.4035956

>>4035941

I hate archviles as much as the next guy, but the maps give you plenty of cover to pull the cool pro strats

>> No.4035958

>>4035956
The last level is nothing but archviles. Archvile after fucking archvile, generally in pairs or even trios.
At least that'sthe last level I played.

>> No.4035965
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4035965

Playing D4T + Jap Doom megawad


its fucking insane and hard as fuq

>> No.4035967
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>>4035948
>>4035951
yes I include the sound files. When I spawn the strife actors through console they don't make any noise.

>> No.4035970

>>4035965
>Jap Doom

I think I know what that actually is, but that gave me the idea of a Doom mod where you go around shooting WWII era Japanese stereotypes in the face.

Their buck teeth could be shards of armor.

>> No.4035978

>>4035970

Japanese community project for doom, it was their own DUMP.

and they know how to make good maps.

also the snes-ish shooter soundtrack

>> No.4035984
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4035984

The rocket launcher trap room in The Pit really isn't as hard in the PSX version.

In some ways I'm relieved I wasn't gangbanged with machineguns and shotguns, yet I'm also kind of disappointed that I was let off so easy.

>> No.4036000

>The Space Pirate thread has a new post
>it's from some dumbass
F U C K O F F

>> No.4036012
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4036012

>>4032705
I actually am a huge fan of this.

Most people imagine Doomguy as either a mute wall-humper or a boisterous roid-raging Liquid Brock Lesnar, but I can actually hear the PTSD in his voice in this incarnation.

It's refreshing, at least.

>> No.4036034

>>4032705
Sounds edgy but I like it, to be honest, better than the "RIP AND TEAR RIP AND TEAR" personality forced into him with stuff like Brutal Doom

>> No.4036037

>>4035615
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ox8sv6jkinuhbjh/autosavekeys.pk3?dl=0

Here's some hacky ZScript that should work

>> No.4036039

>>4036034

one of the best things that Q3 and now NuDoom did to him is giving a "im getting tired of this daemonic shit" personality

AKA, samus without the PTSD shit

>> No.4036040

how are the temple of the lizardmen wads?

>> No.4036041
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>>4032705
>https://clyp.it/fgajeyq1

Heero Yuy is that you?

>> No.4036046
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4036046

>>4032705
>"He died. In my arms. He cried, y'know, said he didn't wanna die... Then he did."

>> No.4036049

>>4036012
>roid-raging Liquid Brock Lesnar
Fucking kek. Now I'm imagining Doomguy's voice cracking against the Cyberdemon.

"You're here. I'm here. LET'S. DO. THIIIISS!?"

>> No.4036054

https://zdoom.org/downloads

So what's this QZDoom?

>> No.4036060

>>4036054
Use a fucking search engine.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/QZDoom

>> No.4036072

Question, was Tei Tenga going to be inhabited? or formerly inhabited, if so what do you think its [former?] residents may have looked like? I ask because im thinking of a level involving the "Tei Tengan Ruins"

>> No.4036074
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4036074

>>4032705
>DOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMmmmm
*holds up spork*

A large portion of those lines are fucking cheesy but I like the delivery. And I gotta admit that his laugh is pretty creepy.

>> No.4036082

>>4032705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6rkXGikuNA

>> No.4036083

>>4036072

Tei tenga became Argent N'Dur

>> No.4036086

>>4036039
>AKA, samus without the PTSD shit
AKA, Samus. Other M never happened.

>> No.4036089

>>4036083
see i was thinking of a setting that had both, Argent D'Nur having fully fallen, while Tei Tenga was more... of an outpost into reality

>> No.4036097

>>4036046
> max payne in hell
> there was nothing i could do. he was dead. i could tell by the accusing stare of his eyes.
it's not too far now is it

>> No.4036108

name minor nitpicks that bug the crap out of you way more then they should in mods you like

>> No.4036119

>>4036108
When a mod has wooden or stone doors and such, and they make the standard door noise.

When a mod "cheats" to make a bridge by using those 2D bars. I mean I get why they have (or, more accurately, HAD) to do it, but it looks dumb as hell.

>> No.4036120

>>4036108
How hammers on guns are depicted in general, either as double-action at all times, or as single-action at all times, or the hammer just stays cocked at all times and seems to cock by itself even after dropping on an empty chamber (either in the case of an automatic, or on a revolver).

I'm guilty of these, by the way.

>> No.4036126

>>4036108
Sprite inconsistency. Things like HD model rips alongside standard doom sprites, or Doom 64 stuff alongside Doom stuff.
Meta Doom is guilty of this, but I understand that converting all of the new enemies and weapons to the "classic" style would take forever.

>> No.4036130

>>4036108
in D4T which I otherwise consider the better mod, I hate their design for the Barons and much prefer what D4D and meta doom use, but also the cacos don't bleed blue outside death sprites, that... is just, fucking annoying

>> No.4036136
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4036136

Mommy shambler and her kids

>> No.4036148

>>4036126
>3D models converted to sprites

Looks like shit anyways. It looked like shit when Donkey Kong did it, it looked like shit when Doom 64 did it, and it definitely looks like shit when modders do it.

>> No.4036150
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>>4036136
I wanna pet a Shambler

>> No.4036152

>>4036148
what's a mod with spritework you really like?

>> No.4036158

>>4036108

-an arsenal of centered guns and side-armed guns
-side-armed guns in general that always use that fucking sprite for the left arm

>> No.4036165

Does anyone have a working link to the latest version of Droplets? The links on the forum post died.

>> No.4036176

>>4036158
>Reloading animations that clumsily try to implement Doomguy's existing arm sprites, and ends up making it look like he's punching the gun a lot

>> No.4036182
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4036182

Take this.
https://youtu.be/io9K6sSHz8w

>> No.4036195

>>4036182
>No monster pain/death noises when slapstick happens until the cannon part.

3/10

>> No.4036203

>>4035175
Stardate 20X7

>> No.4036205

>2017
>still no .WAD about Doomguy fighting Nazis in hell

>> No.4036206

>>4036148
>It looked like shit when Donkey Kong did it

I actually kinda liked how Donkey Kong Country did it.

>> No.4036218

>>4036205

just load ww-nazis with anything

>> No.4036224

>>4036218
Are you playing as Doom Guy in that?
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=52102
Load this with a Weapons only Smooth Doom.

>> No.4036231

>>4036148
The models they used in Doom 64 looked like shitty action figures to begin with, so that didn't do it any favors. It worked better with DKC because the characters are cartoony.

>> No.4036234
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4036234

>play wad
>Revenant spam

I love Plutionia, but fuck Plutonia for starting this shit.

>> No.4036245

>>4035175
TNT Revilution, as its practically finished now.

>> No.4036248

>>4036245
>start up TNTR
>first level
>symmetrical quadrilateral coutryard littered with zombiemen and imps

Dropped. How banal and tedious level design like this is acceptable is beyond me.

>> No.4036250

>>4036108
Mod author doesn't speak english fluently, either as a joke or for real.
SPEAK AMERICAN REEEE

>> No.4036251

Commander Kenn is cute! CUTE!

>> No.4036258
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>WAD has a Dead Simple tribute/redesign/copy

>> No.4036260

>>4036234
>yet another "guys i hate revenants" post

Yawn.

>> No.4036262

>>4036258
What if I make a map that looks like it's a Dead Simple clone, but when you shoot the enemies turn out to be cardboard cutouts and then you just go into a normal level?

>> No.4036263
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4036263

Guys, I'm retarded
How do I play user maps in succesion?
I'm trying to play Duke it out in D.C., but I have to play each one indidvidually.

>> No.4036284

>>4036262
that would actually be cool

>> No.4036290

Does anyone known the name of that 3 hour movie made in Quake? I forgot.

>> No.4036294

>>4036290
The Seal of Nehahra

>> No.4036297

>>4036294
Oh cool thanks.

>> No.4036298
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>>4036195
I just like the start of it with his head on it, Only so much entertainment I can absorb when I am making teh vidya... I do it for /retrofps/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U0IgG-S7r0

>> No.4036307

>>4035984
A lot of the really tall vertical areas were cut down in size for the PSX game.

For the best, I'd say. I prefer the new layouts there.

>> No.4036335

>Get prboom
>Play TNT
>This happens
s1.webmshare.com/Lne8N.webm

What'd I do wrong?

>> No.4036341

>>4036335
TNT's map02/15 midi is bugged by default. Most source ports fix this. What version of prboom are you using?

>> No.4036342

>>4036335
For some reason this midi has trouble being played back properly on certain occasions. Doom95 also had the same issue. I honestly wonder why this happens though.

>> No.4036347

>>4036341
2.5.0 on Windows.

You know, aside from the ear-grating droning at the beginning, I kind of like it.

>> No.4036354

>>4036347
There's also one-note droning after that that should not be there.


On another topic: what is the name of no-bug-abuse speedrun (when person just quickly beelines for all the parts that are absolutely necessary to finish levels the regular way) ?

>> No.4036357

>>4036347
Why are you using regular PrBoom anyway? Its gone nearly a decade without any updates. PrBoom+ is the way to go.

>> No.4036361

>>4036357
I wanted something that was close the the vanilla experience, but I could disable the annoying vertical mouse movement that plagued me on DOSBox and Chocolate. I didn't realize there was a PrBoom+.

>> No.4036364
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4036364

This is probably the most horrifying thing I've ever seen for doom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J9GsXXrCWg

>> No.4036370

>>4036364
Do I look like I know what a .wad is? I just want to play a god-dang Doom level.

>> No.4036371

>>4035984
What gameplay mod is that? Is it tacticool?

>> No.4036375

>>4036361
>but I could disable the annoying vertical mouse movement that plagued me on DOSBox and Chocolate
>Chocolate
You can disable vertical mouse in Chocolate.

>> No.4036386

>>4036364
I actually kind of dig those zombiemen sounds

>> No.4036390

>>4036364
Still quieter and better audio quality than Brutal Doom.

>> No.4036391

>>4036390
>2017
>still having a le Brutal Doom hateboner

>> No.4036393

>>4036391
>implying there arent still legitimate reasons to hate brutal doom in 2017

>> No.4036394

>>4036393
>>4036393
Oh there are, I just don't see why he had to bring it up when literally no one was discussing it.

>> No.4036401

>>4036394
I was making a joke at the audio. No need to get so defensive.

>> No.4036407

>>4036335
>use gzdoom
>set up fluidsynth with that soundfont that apparently was used to compose the original soundtrack
>play tnt
>get this
https://webmshare.com/play/QPK1R

>> No.4036420

>>4036407
Something is definitely wrong wity the instrumental level mixing.

>> No.4036429

I'm still having troubles with SNDINFO, I already ripped the sounds, put them in a sound folder in the pk3 file. Then I went here to paste the names and such for the SNDINFO file
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Predefined_sounds
but it still continues to not play the sounds.

>> No.4036432

>>4036407
>set up fluidsynth with that soundfont that apparently was used to compose the original soundtrack
Name of the soundfont?

>> No.4036436

>>4036432
Patch93_SC-55_1.9.sf2
I will try that one included with the latest gzdoom release tomorrow and try how it sounds.

>> No.4036440
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Fuck these guys in particular.

>>4036371
Immoral Conduct, it's a really old Edge gameplay mod from like 2002, that was given a proper ZDoom port a while back (the original ZDoom port of Immoral Conduct was a horribly stripped down DeHacked mod that was basically nothing like it).

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48036

It's reasonably tacticool, in some ways, enemies (particularly enemies with guns), hurt you a lot, and your armor wears down fast, you really want to run behind cover, duck incoming projectiles, run like shit if a cyberdemon is shooting at you, etc.
The guns are kind of atypical for Doom, there's no real good BFG equivalent, but on the other hand, your guns can put out some pretty good hurt, especially your hand grenades and grenade launcher (which can fire powerful teargas canisters with alt-fire), there's also an automated turret gun that is incredibly helpful if you know you're going to get into a big fight.

It is however very bloated and it's age shows, so I'm doing a gradual work-over of it, one to make most (if not all) guns centered, as the mod mixes centered with angled, this is a no-no by today's standards, and I think centered fits better for Doom.
Another is to consolidate the arsenal, because there's a lot of redundancy and questionably useful weapons. There's like four shotguns for instance, and there's three different pistols, one which can be dual wielded (which is it's own weapon), the minigun is too clunky to be useful. The hand grenades are SUPER good, but they are their own individual weapon and I want them to be used with a quick button, as well as the road flares.

I'm an experienced procrastinator though, and I doubt I'd even classify as mediocre as a modder, so don't expect to see it finished any time soon.

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>>4036440
didn't that wad also gave birth to this skin?

>> No.4036442

What are some good doom soundfonts? Where can I find some?

Also is there a program that can easily play midi files with whatever soundfont you want?

>> No.4036445
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The music here is awful btw.

>>4036440
It also has sort of a quasi-tacticool style, yet also feels a bit like an 80's action movie in some of it's aesthetics, which I feel fits Doom in a particular way.

>>4036441
I think it did, yes.
Thankfully, the ZDoom conversion doesn't have the functional NPC Allies spawning from player starts, so I don't have to fucking see that graphic.
(I think also those guys make the game a bit too easy).

>> No.4036447

>>4036441
what's wrong with the stock, that rifle looks like a dildo
i aint tryin to play my doom with no deel-doe
maybe if the mod is like brutal doom: shove it up your own ass edition

>> No.4036454

>>4036442
There's a pastebin in the OP.

>> No.4036458

>>4036454
thanks

>> No.4036467

>>4036442
I use 8mbgmsfx. I prefer using soundfonts that don't take much space and I think that sounds better compared to other stuff like Timgm6mb and GZDoom's soundfont.

>> No.4036471

I feel so conflicted about D4T, I love the level of polish, extra content, and new sprites, but I feel the Doom 4 style of gameplay just doesn't mesh well in most Doom maps. Things become a clusterfuck too quickly and monsters are on your ass.

>> No.4036476

>>4036440
>Enemies have a finite yet random amount of rounds in their guns, and reload when they run out

That's very cool

>> No.4036478

>>4036476
I've barely noticed this happening.

Occasionally I've spotted a sarge stop and put shells in his gun, but it's so brief it might as well not matter, because he'll level his gun at me immediately.

>> No.4036480

>>4036407
They didn't use a soundfont when they made the original midis. they used an actual SC-55.

Unfortunately. none of the many attempts at emulating the SC-55's sound through a soundfont has been 100% accurate. I often like to think its because the people who make them only compare a small handful of midis, rather than doing any extensive testing.

>> No.4036482

>>4032996
set memsize=64 in the dosbox config because OUWB complains theres not enough memory, otherwise, cycles set to max and its fine

>> No.4036501

>>4036442
foobar2000 with foo_midi

>> No.4036508

whats the difference between Alien Trilogy and ATUD? graphics?

>> No.4036510

>>4036442
Arachno soundfont.

>> No.4036525

>>4036440
Sounds great, keep us posted on this! I loved Immoral Conduct and Don's Challenge back in the day.

>> No.4036532

>>4036445
>>4036447
does anyone actually have a good version of that, either as player choice or for a story specific concept

>> No.4036547

>>4035158
I finished blood using just U and didn't notice any problems. Played just like it did back in the day.

>> No.4036552

>>4036532
There's a few female skins.
That's one of the quite early ones.

>> No.4036589

>>4036547
Thing is, Blood can only interpret vertical OR horizontal mouse input at the time, but not both.
If you move mouse diagonally it will move in a jagged-line fashion, especially noticable during swift aiming. Couple that with different vert-horizon sensivity ratio for a really awkward experience.

If you one of the players that are used to rely on autoaiming and dont move your mouse up/down all that much you may not notice this.

>> No.4036591

>>4036552
a pity they aren't much use outside vanilla gameplay

>> No.4036596

Does anyone know of a mod that increases the number of monsters in vanilla Doom/Doom II maps?

>> No.4036603

>>4036596
Maps of Chaos comes to mind.
I think I saw a straight up monster multiplier too, let me find it.

>> No.4036607

>>4036596
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48872

>> No.4036608

>>4032748
I think the cybermoose was officially universally settled as a bad design but I don't know how people overlooked this shit. how the fuck did they allow this shit over all the baller designs they had

>> No.4036614

What's your opinions on Temple of the Lizard Men 4?

>> No.4036615

oh god the metadoom's cybermanc looks awkward as fuck

>> No.4036618

>>4036074
>A large portion of those lines are fucking cheesy
They're all in normal Quake 3 as text chat lines, the PS2 port just includes unused audio versions.

>> No.4036642

>>4036618
They weren't good there either.

>> No.4036647

Vanilla enthusiast here, been tempted to try some gameplay wads finally, what are some essentials?

So far I've got:

Project MSX
D4T/D4D
Dreadnought and Space Hunter
MetaDoom
JohnnyDoom
Combined Arms
Final Doomer
That one with the weapon mods, DoomRL or something?

Any I'm missing besides those in the v7 graphic?

>> No.4036653
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Oh boy here we go again. I had some remarks earlier about the fatal draw death not being dramatic enough so I'm trying out different effects before the enemy explodes. I've already shortened the duration before they explode after recording this but right now I'm more concerned with the visuals themselves.

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>>4036603
>>4036607

Perfect, thanks!!

>> No.4036664

>>4036647
Nope, seems like as good a starting point as any.

>> No.4036683
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So I decided I want to add an effect where slain monsters fly back a little when killed, like in old school beat 'em ups.

Might have added a bit too much juice to this.

>> No.4036707

>>4036589
>Blood can only interpret vertical OR horizontal mouse input at the time, but not both.
So I've heard, still didn't have a problem or even notice it playing. I use mouslook and no autoaim like any normal person. Usually you're turning left and right to kill things, occasional up and down to fire at things on higher or lower levels.

>> No.4036710

>>4036683
That sword-throwing animation will always be my favorite thing ever.
Keep up the great work!

>> No.4036725

>>4036707
>no autoaim
you can not turn autoaim off in Blood IIRC.

>> No.4036742

>>4036725
Yep you're right. Not sure why other anon even brought it up, as you have no choice to 'rely on autoaim' or not. Blood works great out of the box for such an old game.

>> No.4036754

>>4036653
Oh, great, I'm looking forward to the next version of GMOTA !

>> No.4036770

>>4036653
If you're going Hokuto No Ken route, might as well make blood explosions.

>> No.4036775
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>>4036770
I didn't intend on having them fly THAT far back, here it is on a proper scale.

>> No.4036776

>>4036775
I meant the explosion animation though. The flying away is fine, and I'm pretty sure Hexen had it in some measure.

>> No.4036778

>>4036776
Well this is for just standard deaths, they gib pretty violently from xdeaths. but when killed under normal means, they're gonna dramatically fly backwards, because I love beat 'em ups and you'd knock enemies flat on their ass when KOing them

>> No.4036783
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I always thought this room was neat.

>> No.4036784
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4036784

Also I forgot how boring the second half of Doom 2 is.

>> No.4036785

>>4036784
>that boring urban level with blocky buildings
I really learned to appreciate Dick Kickem levels after I replayed Doom 2 when I was older.

>> No.4036787

>>4036785
Oh yeah, Duke did urban so much better.

>> No.4036793

>>4036787

I think the way duke made city levels is still the best way to approach them after all these years. It's not about making a huuuuge map with tons of building to explore. What you gotta do is make just a few places to visit and pack em with details and personality

>> No.4036794

>>4036440
From what little I played, it seems very good. Daring to subvert Doom's balance while also avoiding safety cushion mechanics like infinite ammo.

It may be just the kind of tactical-style mod I'm looking for. Unlike stuff like HD and the recent Special Weapons, it doesn't rape your movement speed and camera (recoil). Unlike RGA2 and its derivatives, there are no enemies that resurrect or go into "last stand". Unlike SUAB, managing your inventory and arsenal isn't cumbersome.

There are some elegantly simple mechanics that make weapons much more fun and engaging. The simple addition of an alternate melee swipe that is determined by chance makes using melee much more involving because the timing is no longer fixed to one form of attack. The pistols' altfire that trades accuracy for speed gives you a lot more mobility and flexibility in combat while still keeping Doom's slow weapon switch speed.

The balance is pretty all over the place though. Zombiemen and imps are relatively harmless like in vanilla, but sergeants and demons are turned into rape machines. But still, I'd rather have a mod with a unique balance than a safe one.

>> No.4036797

>>4036742
I meant is that people who are used to how autoaim works are less prone to movevtheir mouse vertically too much and therefore less likely to notice Blood's odd behaviour in that regard.

>> No.4036802

>>4036794
>Unlike SUAB, managing your inventory and arsenal isn't cumbersome.
I like SUAB a lot, but it has the same problem Immoral Conduct does, but a lot worse, the arsenal in IC is cluttered, but the arsenal in SUAB is SUPER cluttered.

I'd really like to take the best aspects of both of them and combine them some day.

>> No.4036803

>>4036784
What mod are you using?

>> No.4036805

>>4036794
>sergeants and demons are turned into rape machines
Shotguns always hurt you pretty generously in Doom, it's just that all guns hurt you more in ICD. I like that glass cannon aspect though, and it makes the infighting potential much greater.

Demons are a lot meaner, sure, but I almost never get bit because I've gotten the "Pinkie Bait Tango" down to muscle memory

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>>4036803
>>4036440

>> No.4036812

>>4036802
All I can remember from SUAB is that there are a billion ammo types and the ammo pickups are fucking all over the place and their icons are tiny and indistinguishable. What good aspects does it have?

>> No.4036815

>>4036806
thanks

>> No.4036830

>>4036607
>run it with nuts.wad
>its running normally
>press fire button
>gzdoom.exe has stopped working

>> No.4036831

>>4036812
Good stuff:
>really cool aesthetics and style
>awesome monster variety
>atmosphere
>a few of the weapons are actually pretty good

The bad stuff:
>the arsenal bloat, jesus christ
>ammo spawn and pickups
>a few of the weapons are actually really pointless

I mostly like it's aesthetics and atmosphere, the monsters are really imposing and intimidating.

>> No.4036837

when is quake rally coming back
or that other mod, the skateboarding one

>> No.4036841

>>4036364
This takes me back to the time of playing games on win95 and they didn't quite run right.

>> No.4036843

>>4036794
>>4036802
>>4036812
I was thinking about Wad+Gameplay combo in the veins of TotLM 3/4 and PRODOOMER (I know it sucks but idea is decent and effort put into it is staggering. ), where almost every level will introduce new weapon/spell to the player's arsenal, some times being completely new, but some times being direct upgrades over what player has now (think Mauser->Glock->OTs-27->futuristic pistol, or MP40->Thompson->M16->futuristic ass rifle)

secrets with secret weapons that could be either just interesting, but not particulary powerful toys to play with, or sidegrades (like vertical doublebarrel with more vertical spread than horizontal)


How would you deal with overbloating the arsenal? I thought about a special menu to enable/disable certain weapons/spells from being selected, but maybe there is a better way.

>> No.4036854

>>4036843
For ICD, I'm pretty much looking to just cut down and consolidate things.

>remove all the pistols and replace with just one new 9mm pistol that can have a silencer attached (more or less filling the same function as the starting one, but less ugly, no dual wielding)
>replace revolver with a revolver that's actually powerful to the point of actually mattering, rather than the current one that might as well not be there for what little difference it does
>remove all shotguns and have just one
>replace flak shotgun with something that better can pull off BFG duty, you are just completely crippled if you run into a slaughter situation unless you can run away and regroup (and hope there's ammo and grenades for you to deal with all of them)
>remove hand grenades and flares as individual weapons and just make them quick keys
>remove remote charges, I almost never use them for anything good and their spawn can be used for something better
>remove the minigun entirely, it's way too slow and clunky to be practical for the kind of glass cannon you are, the spinup/spindown leaves you vulnerable for way too long and you can put out just as good (if not better) damage with the rifles which have no delay before and after firing and which are fast to reload

An upgrade system like you suggested is really outside of the scope of what I'm looking to do, and outside of my skill and talent. I believe WildWeasel made a gameplay mod that sort of had an upgrade system though.

>> No.4036868

>>4036854
Will you come up with some way to visually differentiate the pistol's two fire modes?

>> No.4036870

>>4036868
The silencer? Yes, that will probably be a pretty easy part.

>> No.4036871

So where is h-Doom right now, and what would you like to see in it that that dev just isn't doing?

I ask because I had my own ideas buzzing about for a spinoff of the premis /d/OOM, in addition to a giant switch board of different kinks the players could turn on for theit personal experience I would want to include at least this
>monster girl sprites inspired by multiple designs of the demons through the franchise
>ability to choose your sex
>the monsters have their personal dom scenes for when they beat you, similar to how some monsters can brutalize you back in BD

The switch board would have lots of kinks to optionally keep on or off like
>loli/shota
>pegging
>homo and bi modes
>herms
>vore/absorption/unbirth defeats

Some power ups could be kinked up, like invincibility is "bimbo/bro" mode. Where you ignore damage through pure obliviousness, but I'm stumped for most others, also I'm saying all this with no sleep, so I'm probably not in my right mind

>> No.4036878

>>4036870
No, I mean the normal, accurate fire mode and the rapid fire mode.

>> No.4036879

>>4036871
>ability to choose your sex
sex as in "homosex, nohomosex" and like?

>> No.4036881

>>4036871
Mulling over ideas like that is pointless because they require so much spritework, spritework that will never get done

>> No.4036885

>>4036879
That was below, but what I ment was "are you a boy or a girl?" And depending on how the switch boards or power ups wind up working work, more options beyond

>> No.4036886

>>4036879
the only choices are "sure i guess" and "hellllll yeeeea"

>> No.4036887

>>4036547
Nobody cares. It's still awful.

>> No.4036890

>>4036881
Then I just have to Learn how to sprite, also fuck my niece for keeping me up like this, she's to blame for what I'm subjecting you to

>> No.4036891 [DELETED] 

>>4036890

>> No.4036893

>>4036886
>>4036879
I assume it would work like this
On some manner of slider
>strait, all monsters are opposite your characters sex
>bi, monsters have a 50/50 chance of either
>gay, all monsters match your sex
Which is dependant on the gender you picked at the start, bUT if he plans on making herms a seperate option. That might cimplicate implimentation

>> No.4036895

>>4036893
but herms just means it's ok for everyone
especially bi's

>> No.4036897

>>4036895
I'm not going to go into the science of it but many bisexuals like keeping the sexes well defined and dislike herms, hence why I see it being its own slider

>> No.4036905

>>4036878
I probably wouldn't even have those fire modes, rather it can shoot as fast as you can click.

>> No.4036906

>>4036881
Actually, it only requires *some* spritework.

>> No.4036910

>>4036905
Man, I don't agree with that design at all but hey, it's your mod.

>> No.4036915

>>4036647
Call of Doom

>> No.4036924

>func_trains always freeze for a split second at path_corners even with wait 0 so you never get a perfectly seamless loop
GOD DAMN IT

>> No.4036972

>>4036837
The hoverboard racing one? I think that was called Slide.

Quake Rally was awesome. I seem to remember a lot of different versions for it.

I remember one having a linear campaign that ended in a free for all battle at a farm with Cthon as final boss. Then when I next checked out Qrally it had a big hub world, and I never got round to finishing it.

>> No.4036983

>>4036647
Demonsteele
GMOTA
Project Brutality
Brutal Doom
Trailblazer
Russian Overkill

>> No.4036995

New thread.

>>4036991
>>4036991
>>4036991

>> No.4036996

>>4036647
Samsara

>> No.4037003

>>4036647
Might as well post it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY4UGtGzFgk

>> No.4037190

>>4036906

It still requires a not-insignificant amount, and spritework is the slowest part of any modding/devving endeavor.

>> No.4037346

>>4033474

READD THAT WAS WITH SARCSASM FRIEND

>> No.4037825

Has anyone made or ported an editor for Android? Seems like it might be fun to map on the go.

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