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Okay, I know Wiley showed the blueprints for Zero to Protoman, but we never actually saw Protoman and Zero both on-screen at the same time. Their color schemes are pretty similar, Zero has the long blond hair where Protoman had the long yellow scarf, and they even gave Zero the Break Punch in a few games. Also the name "zero" has similar connotations as "proto" in reference to being the predecessor.
We know that Dr. Light used Megaman to build X, was it ever confirmed or denied that Wiley used Protoman to build Zero?

>> No.4030089

>>4030073
>was it ever confirmed or denied that Wiley used Protoman to build Zero?

Nope. Most of whatever happened in between the classic and X series has been purely left up to speculation for years.

>> No.4030114

The great thing is that Zero proves that Willy DID eventually surpass Dr Light's creations.

>> No.4030125

>>4030114
Considering Dr Wily represents Albert Einstein along with the manhattan project and the allied forces in ww2 and Dr Light represents Japan i find it a fitting analogy. They were surpassed and now the weapon that was made to destroy them now protects/keepaneye out for them

>> No.4030128

>>4030114
I've always thought the Light/Wily rivalry was kind of ambiguous. It's actually not that hard to argue the idea that Light and Megaman were protecting the rights of "true citizens" to destroy slaves, and Wily was rescuing robots who didn't want to die.

>> No.4030447

>>4030073
What? This is all wrong, Mega Man is blue.

>> No.4030657

>>4030073
It was never confirmed that light used Megaman to build X.

Not once. Jeez OP. Im all for stirring up discussion but...why bring this lie up again?

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It's just that MMX re-hashes classic MM, with a new coat of paint and a couple of new gameplay mechanics. The classic and X series (at least up to X6) are very close.

For MMX they re-used as much as they could from the classic series, and yes that includes making a new Protoman, with a different name, a different coat of paint and a couple new things, but the same role, conotations, and even colour schemes.

You shouldn't try too much to draw conclusion story wise though. Especially because
>Mega Man
>story

Anyway have some Protoman.

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>> No.4030702

>>4030073
I once emailed Capcom about pretty much this same idea and the reply I got was essentially this:
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>> No.4030729

>>4030073
Didn't MMX5 or MMX6 showed that Willy created Zero?

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>wearing shades on top of shades

You can't top Protoman's cool

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>> No.4030768

Protoman is literally the coolest dude ever.

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>> No.4030815

>>4030729
4 implied it (heavily).

>> No.4030816

i wonder why they waited until mega man 9 and 10 to let you play as protoman. you could play as bass in rockman and forte a long ass time ago.

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>>4030816
Don't worry, I'm working on that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aBfyDwifhQ

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>> No.4030860

>>4030829
cool

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>> No.4030924

>>4030114
That's lame to compare those 2 creations, megaman has been built at the beginning and zero at the end, it's normal that at a moment Megaman start to be obsolete. Also X wasn't totally completed due to the death of Light. The most impressive thing about Light that he was able to copy his personality and his genius into a machine to be able to keep upgrading X and somehow finish his works.

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>>4030073
Your entire motivation for linking the two is that they are both red. You could have wrote anything in the OP but that's the truth of it. Stop and think of how dumb that is. Also X is not Megaman and Wily shows the Zero blueprints to Bass.

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>> No.4030998

>>4030815
It was actually implied as early as 2, in the original Japanese version anyway. When you defeat Sigma he refers to Zero as the last of Wily's numbers.

>> No.4031002

>>4030998
didn't know that. got a screenshot?

>> No.4031010

>>4031002
Not on hand, but if you can read Japanese just look up a playthrough and read Sigmas dialogue after his viral form is beaten.

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>>4031056
And on MMX3 ending...

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>>4031065

>> No.4031229

alright, so what's the japanese precedent for "the main character must kill his best friend"? and what was the resolution? i'm not a weeb, so i don't know.

>> No.4031240

>>4030998

Mega Man Power Battle 2 pretty much confirms Zero is Wily's creation.

>> No.4031242

>>4031240
Spin off games shouldn't count.

Otherwise we know where megaman ended up, he's quint.