/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4025508]

Will Compile Heart ever release a western retro Madou Monogatari pack?

I tried to play Madou Monogatari I (the one with the tower), but since I don't know Japanese I don't think I can beat it without using a guide and I won't be able to appreciate the story/characters as much.

[Anonymous No.4025524]

Super Kindergarten Kids (the fantranslated SNES game) pretty much remakes and improves on the first game. Other than that, yeah, no, it's not fucking happening, Compile Heart is a horrible company and they don't even own the rights to the characters anymore, that now belongs to Sega which is more interested in milking out the Puyo Puyo puzzle franchisae.

[Anonymous No.4025525]

Sega owns the rights. They released Puyo Puyo internationally for the 3DS and could do the same with the other games.

[Anonymous No.4025528]

Gotta talk it over with Sega.

Hey, maybe they'll listen. They cooperated with fans to make Sonic mania and ARE interested in making puyo more global.

[Anonymous No.4025532]

>>4025524
Yeah I read that about Sega, but I was hoping Madou Monogatari would be considered a different franchise because of how different the gameplay is. But yeah I guess you're right, the characters are the same.

>>4025525
The Puyo Puyo Tsu one right?

[Anonymous No.4025536]

Apparently there's a rerelease of the PC98 Madou Monogatari in Japan? What the fuck is this?
http://www.amusement-center.com/project/egg/special/package_madou123ars/

[Anonymous No.4025545]

>>4025532
You probably already know this but Compile Heart DID make a spiritual successor to Madou Monogatari on PS VITA, it's called Sorcery Saga.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcery_Saga:_Curse_of_the_Great_Curry_God

[Anonymous No.4025556]

>>4025536

Project E.G.G. (Engrossing Game Gallery) is a videogame compiler and publisher company. It was founded in 2001 in Japan with the objetive of compiling many old games series and port them to PC format. They are better known for making the compilations of Valis Complete in 2001 that was re-released as Valis Complete Plus in 2011 in conmemoration of their 10th anniversary.

[Anonymous No.4025558]

>>4025556
So it's basically Japanese GOG

[Anonymous No.4025562]

Arle makes silly expressions!

[Anonymous No.4025564]

>>4025562
I can see why she's so well liked.

[Anonymous No.4025569]

The games have simple writing but use very few basic Kanji which is kind of a pain.

[Anonymous No.4025591]

Okay I emailed Sega.
>>4025545
I actually did not know that. Damn, I hope that doesn't make an english Madou Monogatari I less likely.

[Anonymous No.4025602]

>>4025545
HEY this is the game this epic screencap came from

[Anonymous No.4025605]

>>4025602
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Anonymous No.4025608]

>>4025602
Yeah. I wonder if it's any good, I have a vita and all. I like da lolis but I HAET shit games and I hate deceptive bad games trying to lure me in with lolis the most.

[Anonymous No.4025615]

>>4025608
It got mixed reviews but then again the gaming press despises japanese niche shit so who knows?

[Anonymous No.4025621]

>>4025615
Urgh. I'll buy it once I've gotten my paycheck.

[Anonymous No.4025627]

>>4025621
Don't buy it, dude, Compile Heart sucks

[Anonymous No.4025631]

The thing is that Arle was drawn LIKE A REAL WOMAN in the 90s as opposed to modern anime which look like featureless moeblobs

[Anonymous No.4025634]

>>4025627
But... But bacon loli. Ah forget it, you're right. I'll just draw what I like instead and play some crazy taxi or something

[Anonymous No.4025643]

>>4025631
Yeah I'm glad Sega is making Puyo games but I gotta say, I prefer the retro aesthetic to the newer one where there isn't even that much difference between the characters.

[Anonymous No.4025645]

at first I was like

[Anonymous No.4025649]

>>4025645
but then I was like

[Anonymous No.4025663]

So there's a guy working on these apparently.

[Anonymous No.4025667]

[Anonymous No.4025678]

>>4025663
>>4025667
Neat!

[Anonymous No.4025895]

>>4025562
Arle is the cutest.

[Anonymous No.4025924]

>>4025645
>>4025649
These games are so good.

[Anonymous No.4026168]

>>4025508
>western releases
Not even once.

[Anonymous No.4026180]

>>4025508
>Will Compile Heart ever release a western retro Madou Monogatari pack?

Can't. They don't have the rights.

The closest they did was releasing a new Madou Monogatari, which was a remake / new version of Waku Waku Puyo Puyo Dungeon, and they filled it up with a whole new cast who looked different, had different names, but all of their personality was a carbon copy of the old characters. Shame that the new designs were godawful overdesigned anime moeblobs.

This was back in 2013, on the fucking Vita.

For what its worth - it was at least localized.

They could make a new rpg or dungeon crawler or rogue-like that way, but it wouldn't be the same.

[Anonymous No.4026186]

>>4025528
>Hey, maybe they'll listen. They cooperated with fans to make Sonic mania and ARE interested in making puyo more global.

They made Sonic Mania because taxman and stealth gave them a complete modern game engine. If it weren't for that, they'd still be selling poorly emulated copies of the sonic games on Steam, because they can't be arsed to put any effort in anything that may or may not work. With the brunt work of the programming done by the fans, all they need is 1 guy to build decent levels and 2-3 artists to do new animation and level art. That's pennies.

>>4025545
That doesn't play like the classic madou monogatari games at all though, it's a rogue-like with random dungeons. The Saturn/psx game Waku Puyo Dungeon was like that too.

[Anonymous No.4026189]

>>4026180
It's just not the same without the waifu, is it?

[Anonymous No.4026190]

>>4026186
To be fair madou monogatari was pretty generic, it was only the Megadrive and Snes remakes that tried something fresh with the battle system.

[Anonymous No.4026196]

>>4026186
I liked Waku Waku Puyo Dungeon because it seems to feature Arle in her Puyo~n design.

[Anonymous No.4026220]

>>4026189
My problem isn't that, but that the new designs are shit. They go full Ar Tonelico on a cast that consists of characters like:
- Witch (a witch)
- Minotaur (a minotaur)
- Zombie (a zombie little kid)
- Incubus (an incubus, who fails at his job)
- Harpy (a girl in a robe with small wings who sings in an awful voice)
- a flea
- Siamese twin Siamese cats
- a giant fish with legs and arms
- a mermaid (looks like a mermaid)
- generic demon nobility (called Satan...)
- various blobs of different colour
- a white knight
- an elephant
- a dark knight
- a genie girl
- a succubus
- a snotty bitch who does karate
- a mage apprentice girl
- her pet Pikachu

About the most complex designs in the series were Satan and Draco Centauros, and she's a generic demon/dragon human girl too. Every design in the game was exceedingly simple, and that was part of its charm imo. Especially since the game sometimes goes surreally dark, like that game with the freaky zombie ending, or the Saturn RPG where they have to deal with motherfucking Yog-Sothoth.

[Anonymous No.4026225]

>>4026220
Sounds like if you played the original, there is no reason to play sorcery saga at all.

[Anonymous No.4026228]

>>4026196
same here, see my old pic. One day I'll really have to finish it; to get the final ending you have to beat the game with all 3 players and then do a 100-floor marathon on the last tower. Which is pretty damn hard when I can't even read the Japanese status messages (so I don't notice when my characters get hungry, which is fatal cause they deal 1/10th the damage).

>>4026225
It's in English, and iirc a different game, that just looks and plays largely the same.

can't tell cause I don't even know wtf the story of Waku Puyo Dungeon is.

[Anonymous No.4026229]

I swear I will play the entire series SOMEDAY. I just need to make up some free time and brush up my Japanese machine translation skills.

[Anonymous No.4026239]

You creepy lolicon weebs.
Compile has other RPGs too, you know.

[Anonymous No.4026282]

>>4025562
>>4020516

[Anonymous No.4026390]

>>4026239
Any with the non-numerical health and magic?

[Anonymous No.4026395]

>>4026390
They're still numerical in MM, just not displayed.

[Anonymous No.4026621]

>>4025562
How does Arle's cheek feels like ?

[Anonymous No.4026627]

>>4025558
In a sense. EGG started as a project by Bothtec, one of the oldest Japanese PC publishers until it folded around 2004, and then its EGG employees made another company (D4 Enterprises) which now operates EGG, and owns most of Compile's games. They don't have the rights to use Madou Monogatari characters in anything new because SEGA took all that when they got that Puyo Puyo.

>>4026239
Geo Conflict series, Wander Wonder, and El Dorado are super cool for late Compile. I just wish it was easier to really play them since EGG hasn't updated the originals at all.

[Anonymous No.4026630]

>>4026627
That copyright situation sounds ridiculously complex.

[Anonymous No.4026760]

>>4025602
Wtf why would they send a bib and baby tableware.

[Anonymous No.4026761]

>>4026760
They are IRONIC pedos.

[Anonymous No.4026897]

>>4026621
like a giant marshmallow

[Anonymous No.4026908]

>>4025562
Arle a cute!

[Anonymous No.4026952]

>>4025545
Spoiler: it sucks

[Anonymous No.4027016]

>>4025562
Seriously though her facial expressions are the best part of the Mega Drive game. I really love the whole concept of the UI and how it affects the game's feel; it's even more impressive that they did it with a genre like a first person dungeon crawler rpg.