/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.3979415]

>Forever
What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.3979424]

>>3979415
Link never gets the Master Sword in any games that take place after this AFAIK. The sword you get in LoZ is the "Magic Sword" which is a different sword.

Nintendo might have altered the timeline since, but at the time AlttP was published this was the thinking.

[Anonymous No.3979437]

>>3979424
I refuse to believe there is a Zelda timeline, and each game is just a reimagining of the same basic theme and characters.

[Anonymous No.3979438]

BotW proved Nintendo doesn't give a shit about the timeline they themselves created.

[Anonymous No.3979442]

>>3979424
I think you meant "before" alttp, because he got the master sword in most Zelda games since alttp, besides mm and like 1 or 2 others .

[Anonymous No.3979461]

>>3979424

Link never gets it again, unless you're a fan of Aonuma's fucktarded timeline bullshit. The only games post-ALTTP are:

1. Link's Awakening (Noble Sword)

2. Oracle of Ages/Seasons (Noble Sword, Master Sword/Biggoron Sword is bonus cameo *only*).

3. Hyrule Fantasy (Magic Sword).

4. Adventure of Link (I forget, but still no Master Sword).

It's staying in that goddamned forest.

[Anonymous No.3979472]

>>3979437

That's your choice. I choose to believe the timeline is there just for an extra bit of neat lore for fans.

[Anonymous No.3979474]

>>3979438

I stopped following the series after Twilight Princess/Spirit Tracks. Skyward Sword completely turned me off.

[Anonymous No.3979479]

[Anonymous No.3979483]

>>3979479

No. >:D

[Anonymous No.3979516]

>>3979438
On contraire, it proved they care very much about it.

[Anonymous No.3979525]

The "timeline" is retarded, my dudes. Outside of direct sequels (and in-game references to previous games) there is no timeline.
>Zelda II follows The Legend Of Zelda
>Majora's Mask follows Ocarina Of Time
>Wind Waker and Twilight Princess both directly reference the events of Ocarina Of Time, obviously placing them after that game
>Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are both direct sequels to Wind Waker
>Minish Cap takes place before the Four Swords games, because it shows the sword being forged
>Skyward Sword is the earliest, as Hyrule doesn't even exist yet
Outside of these, you can place all of the other games anywhere you want. They're not all linked together, and Nintendo didn't have them planned out from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.3979538]

>>3979516
This dog sure does love Zelda

[Anonymous No.3979542]

>>3979415
>filters
reeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.3979545]

>>3979516
Fucking twitter, I can barely follow what he is talking about here.

[Anonymous No.3979565]

>>3979525

>Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are both direct sequels to Wind Waker

Phantom Hourglass is direct, Spirit Tracks has a different Link and happens some hundred years later.

[Anonymous No.3979571]

>>3979565
I don't want to start a big chain of non-/vr/ posts, but doesn't Spirit Tracks take place in the new land that Link & Tetra started? I thought they left to find new land after Hyrule flooded, and they settled there, and that's where Spirit Tracks takes place.

[Anonymous No.3979576]

>>3979516
>I wouldn't make light about something this wanton.
>9/11
I don't know why this is so funny to me.

[Anonymous No.3979581]

>>3979525

You're taking a statement of the obvious (that Nintendo didn't have them all planned out from the beginning) and trying to run with it. When the series started out, Miyamoto did not give a single tinker's damn about fitting the games into a timeline. However, sometime around the changing of the guard from Miyamoto to Aonuma, a rough timeline began to be formed. Eventually, this became an explicitly referenced thing in the Zelda universe, rather than a simple "Wouldn't it be neat if....?" or an elaborate cameo vehicle.

To this day, Miyamoto still thinks the notion of a timeline is needless nonsense. But one definitely exists now.

[Anonymous No.3979584]

>>3979571

Correct. Spirit Tracks covers the foundation and ascendance of Neo-Hyrule.

[Anonymous No.3979596]

>>3979581
>both Yoda and Obi-Wan both explicitly state that Yoda trained Obi-Wan in The Empire Strikes Back
>Qui-Gon trains Obi-Wan in the Phantom Menace
>not Yoda
>The creators can't be wrong, though!
>George Lucas had all six movies planned out from the beginning!
The creators can be wrong. There is no timeline, my man. They're making it up as they go. They didn't have fucking Wind Waker in mind when they were making Link's Awakening.

[Anonymous No.3979613]

>>3979596

Whoever said they did? I can't tell if you're legit retarded or merely pretending.

And FYI, that's all creators *ever* do: make it up as they go along.

[Anonymous No.3979685]

>>3979613
>, that's all creators *ever* do: make it up as they go along.
Not him but that's why timeline in zelda is ratarded, they are separate works and trying to put coherence into that timeline implies the whole franchise is a huge single work that severely contradicts itself when they are mostly standalones using the same resources and plot because it's a sure way to the comercial success.

[Anonymous No.3979695]

>>3979685

You could use that for every single work of fucking fiction EVER that's been commercially serialized.

Do you not understand how retarded that argument is? Next are we going to claim there's no Star Trek timeline?

[Anonymous No.3979776]

>>3979525
>Outside of these, you can place all of the other games anywhere you want.

Outside of those? You just listed nearly all of them. The major ones you left out were the Oracle games (which explicitly reference LA at the end) and ALTTP (which leads into Links Awakening and is a prequel to Zeldas 1 and 2)

So there is no timeline, except the vast majority of the games clearly take place before/after other games in the series in a linear fashion to the point of that chronological understanding accounting for most games in the series.

I don't know what it is specifically about zelda that causes people to get so full of reality denial when it comes to pretty blatant timeline shit.

[Anonymous No.3979786]

I'm still waiting for the OFFICIAL explanation for how BotW fits into the timeline. They brought Ruto and Rito races into the same timeline, among other inconsistencies.

[Anonymous No.3979838]

>>3979424
>Link never gets the Master Sword in any games that take place after this AFAIK.

The Master Sword pops up again in the Oracle games, but only in the second game you play in a linked game, and only if you tell Farore (the Oracle of Secrets, not the Golden Goddess of the same name) a certain password, at which point she'll turn your Noble Sword into the Master Sword (or, if you still have the Wooden Sword, she'll turn that into the Noble Sword, and the Master Sword can be found where the Noble Sword would normally be). Thus, it's possible that this Master Sword is a fake created with permission from the gods, or that its existence in the Oracle games is a non-canon bonus.

It also appears in A Link Between Worlds, right in the Lost Woods where ALTTP's Link left it. Unlike the Oracle games, you actually do need it to progress, and as a result, this completely defies ALTTP's statement of it sleeping forever. It's possible that Aonuma and/or the rest of his staff forgot about that when making ALBW.

[Anonymous No.3980034]

>>3979437
I like to think of each not as the same story re imagined but each are just their own thing. Except for the ones that have a direct connection or have nothing to do with hyrule.

[Anonymous No.3980042]

>>3979461
It was like that until A Link between Worlds which should have been just a massively revamped ALttP. It mine as well be but it counts as a seperate game involving the Master Sword but I like to ignore that.

[Anonymous No.3980059]

>>3979525
I like to think just what you posted and that each seperate green text are a different universe aside from Wind Wakers and Twilight Princesses being part of OoT.
>Four Sword Adventures being after Twilight is retarded and should just have the Four Swords Saga be it's own thing

>Skyward Sword
>OoT-WW-PH-ST
>OoT-MM-TP
>MC-FS-FSA
>ALttP-LA-1-2

Oracles is it's own thing and 1-2 could be standalone.

[Anonymous No.3980063]

>>3979438
That makes two of us.

[Anonymous No.3980067]

>>3980059
Somehow I green texted the wrong thing.

[Anonymous No.3980070]

>>3979461
What the flaming fuck is Hyrule Fantasy? I'm about to Google it, but I have to express my complete confusion first.

[Anonymous No.3980091]

>>3979461
Not to indulge the timeline as meaningful, but isn't A Link Between Worlds in this timeline?

[Anonymous No.3980115]

>>3980070
Hyrule Fantasy is the first game.

[Anonymous No.3980146]

>>3979474
Skyward Sword was the point that I stop caring about it. It makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.3980160]

>caring about the Master Sword
>don't mind that Hyrule's map changes around(Lake Hylia, deserts, Death Mountain, Kakariko Village) like it has climate change on steroids
Where is Snowpeak in ALttP?!!!!

[Anonymous No.3980526]

>>3980115
>tfw link never uses this fucking rapier
WHY

[Anonymous No.3980538]

>>3979786
>>3979838
>>3980042

I just disregard everything after Twilight Princess/Spirit Tracks. That's when the series just became inexcusably shitty, and they couldn't even be bothered with phoning it in anymore.

[Anonymous No.3980541]

>>3980070

Zelda 1 had a subtitle too in Japanese, believe it or not.

[Anonymous No.3980546]

>>3980091

Not if you stopped giving a fuck before then.

At some point the mediocrity has to stop, and for me that was with wagglan.

[Anonymous No.3980547]

>>3980160

All readily explainable by shifting geopolitical boundaries.

Or if that's too "autistic" for you, gameplay/story segregation.

[Anonymous No.3980632]

>>3979415
Don't dig into it to deep, they just phrased it that way so the player would feel accomplished.

[Anonymous No.3980650]

>>3979472
>the timeline
>all classic Zelda games are tucked away in the "loser branch" of a retard who couldn't into beating Ocarina of Time

Of course they HAD to do this, because the classic games are "oldass and shit" and the kiddies would protest too much if it were made different...?

[Anonymous No.3980657]

>>3979516
>post-future soft reboot
umm... ok

[Anonymous No.3980687]

>>3980650

A three-way split timeline makes no fucking sense and I'd honestly just ignore it.

[Anonymous No.3980691]

>>3979525
The Oracle games were made to snugly fit in between ALttP and LA - at the beginning Link interacts with the Triforce he acquired at the end of ALttP, and at the end of a linked Oracles game he sails away in a boat, which leads to the beginningo of LA. Years ago (way before the official timeline was published) I pointed that out in at the Zelda Dungeon forums where a possible timeline was discussed in a lengthy thread - this idea was basically rejected by anyone else, almost everyone insisting that LA is a direct sequel to ALttP and the details mentioned are coincidental and irrelevant. With the Nintendo timeline published, it was confirmed I had been right after all.

(Interestingly, if you treat ALttP/Oracles/LA as a whole, Aghanim and Ganon appear in each of the parts - both make their "proper" appearances in ALttP, then they appear in "gimped" forms in the Oracles (Aghanim as a miniboss in one of the dungeons, and a braindead resurrected Ganon at the end of a linked game), and finally they appear in "shadow" form as nightmares at the end of LA.)

[Anonymous No.3980697]

>>3980691

The two Oracles could also fit in at the very end of the timeline after Zelda II. The only requirements for a placement of the OOx games are:

1. Child timeline.

2. Ganon dead.

3. Triforce-wielding monarchy.

[Anonymous No.3980712]

>>3980697
Ok, but you have to admit that while the direct jump from the end of ALttP to the beginning of LA (he saved Hyrule, acquired the Triforce, and now he's suddenly in a boat in the middle of a sea?) was a bit puzzling, the beginning and end of a linked Oracles games tied them together very well - I believe that it's wasn't coincidental, and that it was done intentionally by Nintendo/Flagship to create this continuity between ALttP and LA (and leave it to figure out to those paying attention to such details). When I reached the end credits of a linked Oracles game and saw Link sitting in that boat while others are waving goodbye to him, I immediately thought of the beginning of LA with him in the middle of the sea, then remembered the Oracles beginning where he rode up to the Triforce shrine and the ending of ALttP where he acquired the Triforce in the first place, and suddenly it all made sense.

[Anonymous No.3980715]

>>3979415
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forever

[Anonymous No.3980717]

>>3980712

Oh, I'm inclined to favor that placement as well. Just pointing out there is one other place it could fit.

[Anonymous No.3980731]

>>3979786
It's a soft reboot. It's so far in the future that's another whole story. Every past game 'happened' in some way, like you know, a legend told many times.

[Anonymous No.3981047]

>>3980546
Except LBW was a return to quality.

[Anonymous No.3981219]

>>3980538
b-b-but botw....

[Anonymous No.3981352]

>>3979437
OoT and TP are directly referenced in BOTW

[Anonymous No.3981615]

>>3980691
So are we supposed to think that Zelda and Link have amnesia in Oracles? Because they don't recognize one another at all and in both English and Japanese Zelda clearly talks to Link as if he's meeting him for the first time ever.

The Oracles games weren't made to fit anything, the sailboat at the end is the only thing that connects them to LA if at all.

[Anonymous No.3981790]

>>3979438

[Anonymous No.3981815]

They introduced the Master Sword as a kind of McGuffin and concluded that story. But then the writers realized the story of the series is paper thin and they needed to use it again, so they brought it back for every subsequent game. Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.3981816]

>>3980526
>tfw no games that let me be a musketeer and wreck shit with a fancy rapier

[Anonymous No.3982210]

>>3980546

Skyward Sword really isn't as bad as you people make it out to be but whatever. You're just gonna think your negative opinion is superior no matter what anyone has to say.

[Anonymous No.3982240]

>>3979596
Obi-Wan immediately references Yoda's teachings ("But Master Yoda said I should be mindful of the future.") in his first lines to Qui-Gon in TPM. Then, in Attack of the Clones, we learn that Yoda instructs a vast majority (if not all) of the Younglings before they become Padawans.

[Anonymous No.3982247]

>>3979437
But they have the same legend about the same boy defeating evil. It's like a dream world.

[Anonymous No.3982259]

>>3981815
Hrrmmm... And you predicate this theory on what exactly? The "Forever" bit isn't in the Japanese version and ALttP offers tons of foreshadowing into the series backstory. Your theory has no legs with this in mind.

>>3982210
It had an entire conspiracy theory invented to defend it called the "Zelda Cycle" that corrupted even the creators themselves. It is that bad.

[Anonymous No.3982290]

>>3982247
Well, legends are mythical after all.

[Anonymous No.3982297]

>>3982259

>It is that bad because of things having fuck all to do with the gameplay or core story elements of the game

I played it on hero mode, had the upgraded sensor bar, and loved the game.

Your opinion is not absolute, fucktard. Ain't the best 3D Zelda and I don't want wagglin again, but its still a fine game that works and is pretty fun, with story moments that tugged at the heart and actually helped make Zelda lore make sense.

I'm speaking to a unmoving wall though. You'll always hatefuck the game and smell your own fart of an opinion.

[Anonymous No.3982298]

>>3982290
What I mean was there's a precedent in a lot of Zelda games so it can't all be isolated.

[Anonymous No.3982305]

>>3979596

You can be trained by more than one person you autist. Yoda did train him.

[Anonymous No.3982317]

>>3981352
You mean that one cutscene? Every Zelda game is referenced there. You can hear Zelda in other dubs, like the german one.

[Anonỿmous No.3982341]

>>3979415
they meant "we have no idea how long we can ride this train so we're going to close shit out here and now"

[Anonymous No.3982414]

>>3982259
Yes it does say "forever" in the Japanese you stupid faggot.

https://youtu.be/Lw6d3MVCQ5Y
@7:33

[Anonymous No.3982435]

>>3982210

Dude, I actually owned a goddamned Wii and tried this shit. Wagglan sucked ASS.

[Anonymous No.3982470]

>>3979581
>the changing of the guard from Miyamoto to Aonuma

Around what time/game did this happen?

[Anonymous No.3982480]

>>3982470

Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask.

[Anonymous No.3982670]

>>3982414
The Japanese version of ALttP GBA doesn't.

[Anonymous No.3982687]

>>3979437
Before Skyward Sword I would say this is wrong and that there's an implied truth to the timeline theory

now the timeline theory is fucked by the idea of the Failure timeline and that time travel is some silly random shit that happens whenever constantly in SS

[Anonymous No.3982692]

>>3982687

The solution is to ignore Nu-Nintendo and all their stupid bullshit.

[Anonymous No.3982790]

>>3982670
And the SNES does. What's your point faggot?

[Anonymous No.3982835]

>>3982790
Must be obviously that it's not canon. The original point, you dip.

[Anonymous No.3982852]

>>3982687
You're not entirely wrong there. ALttP and OoT established an initial lore, and it was mostly created by Koizumi (the guy in charge of Mario now). But then, the Capcom games roll out and the guy directing those games didn't gave a fuck about continuity. Both Oracles games got OoT and MM stuff all over the place, and Minish Cap was another prequel. Guess who is the guy directing the new Zelda games now.

[Anonymous No.3982932]

>>3982835
>caring about canon
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.3982976]

>>3979516
>I wouldn't make light about something this wanton. 9/11
>9/11
kek'd

[Anonymous No.3983063]

>>3980160
This thread just made me realize that Hebra is in the same location as Snowpeak, and is thus probably the same thing.

Huh.

[Anonymous No.3983115]

>Zoras lives in water.
>In a world covered by endless water...
>they turn into fucking birds.

Bullshit.

Yoshiaki Koizumi sould have the franchise for him, and not Aonuma.

[Anonymous No.3983174]

>>3983115
They lived in fresh water though. Try dumping goldfish and frogs into the ocean and see how well that goes.

[Anonymous No.3983186]

>>3983174

The theory goes that the three goddesses took pity on their race, and so the Zora became the Rito to better survive the new oceanic world.

[Anonymous No.3983432]

>>3982852
lol, Zelda's uncle got eaten by rats, that's why he disappears so fast in the game

[Anonymous No.3983446]

>>3983432
I didn't know Zelda even had an uncle, where can you find him?

[Anonymous No.3984561]

>>3980059
Oraces is well established to be after alltp and before LA, all 4 games are the same Link

[Anonymous No.3984567]

>>3983446
This is 2 minutes into LttP where you acquire a sword and shield from your leaky uncle before he shits his pants and dies.

[Anonymous No.3984592]

>>3983432
>Zelda's uncle
ESL phoneposters were a mistake.

[Anonymous No.3985053]

>>3979415
>What did they mean by this?
that ganon is dead forever and the master sword is never needed again

[Anonymous No.3985345]

>>3984567
Well yeah but I'm wondering about Zelda's uncle.

[Anonymous No.3985545]

>>3982852
>the guy directing those games didn't gave a fuck about continuity. Both Oracles games got OoT and MM stuff all over the place

The just had to shovel the OoT/MM bullshit into the Oracles because people would expect it to be in Zelda games after they were introduced a few years prior. But yes, games taking place between ALttP and LA surely would have done better without it.

[Anonymous No.3985547]

>>3985345
Oh come on. If the playable character of Mario games is Mario, they it follows easily that the playable character in Zelda games is Zelda, and the playable character in Metroid games is Metroid.

[Anonymous No.3985562]

>>3979437

Every time I see the Zelda timeline it just gets more and more retarded.

This shit is why I always prefer Ys. Just a straight forward time line about some red headed adventurer exploring the world getting into different world saving quests every game. Outside remake shenanigans everything is nice and clean with no bullshit.

If you don't want to retire the character just build a damn world around them not some constant vaguely defined kingdom

[Anonymous No.3985591]

>>3985053
Until the next game, of course :^)

[Anonymous No.3985634]

>>3985562
What is there, 8 Ys games? How much time has past through those games? Just how old is Adol?

[Anonymous No.3986152]

>>3985634
Ys 1 took place when he was about 16. In Ys 7 he is 23. No idea with Ys 8. According to an artbook once considered the bible of the series, he dies at 63.

[Anonymous No.3986247]

>>3986152
Ys 8 takes place very shortly after V, so Adol's probably 20, 21 at the latest.

The artbook you mention is probably quoting the manual for the first Ys game. The developers always had big plans for the series, and it's clear they often plan new games based on this information.

"Do you know by name Adol Christin?
Adol Christin .... Thousand and hundred years
ago he was born at the small unknown
mountain village.
Where is situated the north-east of Eulope the western end in Elashia continent,
He was a very brave adventurer, who had traveled all over Eulope and foreign countries
since at the age of 16 till the death of 63 years old.
He who was born at the poor peasant's boy was commonly acknowledged to be a curious
and active youth.
In particular he wants to know the outerworld.
One day he met the traveler who stopped in his village, from when he began to go to
his own adventurous trip.
In these days - only on feet and by ship - his sphere of activity was marvelous.
In the south Afroca continent, in the east of the Tigres of Orietta, the north pole, etc.
As far as we know, his spirit of adventure to unknown strange countries is astonishing.
Can lot of that he kept his adventurous diary concerning occurencies which he met
wherever he went.
His most important works "The five huge dragons in Artago" "Celceta the sea of trees"
"Kefin the city of sand" etc.
His works - more than a hundred ones - are presented in the basement of his birthplace and at present they are quietly asleep in a striking contrast to his activity.
When we read them, we can know his fooprint.
The following story is the part of start in "Ancient Ys Vanished" the story is the first
memorial to be translated and novelized.
The place of adventure is Esteria sleeping in the ocean floor.
The story will develop as he proceeds to the land.
Light and darkness, the disturbed and chaotic era.
We want you to read through the same feeling everything he experienced himself."

[Anonymous No.3986328]

>>3986247
(cont'd)

So, according to the Japanese materials, each game corresponds to a different journal of Adol's:

"Ancient Ys Vanished (Omen & Last Chapter)", (Ys I & II Chronicles, 17 years old)
"Celceta, sea of tres" (Ys IV: Memories of Celceta, 18 years old)
"Adventure journal of Felghana" (Ys III: Wanderers from Ys/The Oath in Felghana, 19 years old)
"Kefin, the city of sand" (Ys V: Kefin, Lost Kingdom of Sand, 20 years old)
"Guide to the Goethe Sea" (Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana, 21 years old)
"Searching for the Winged Ones" (Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim, 23 years old)
"The five dragons of Altago" (YS SEVEN, 23 years old)

Ys Origin is obviously an exception to this, as it takes place hundreds of years before Adol.

>>3985634
There are nine games out, Ys Origin + Ys I through VIII.

>>3985562
Ys' timeline isn't completely straightforward, not even in the retro canon, where IV always preceded III. The remakes haven't changed anything about the retro story outside of expanding it and condensing IV into a single game (bearing in mind that Dawn of Ys was never canon anyway).

[Anonymous No.3987292]

>>3979479
Nintendo originally said the third one when fans complained about it.

they made the retarded timeline to force people to accept that fact.

[Anonymous No.3987625]

>>3979437
Some are linked and others arent.

Its retarded fans that tried to act like they are ALL connected.

[Anonymous No.3987719]

>>3986328
>Ys' timeline isn't completely straightforward

The point is that everything else aside it's all the adventures of one dude and you don't have to reset the whole goddamn universe every time you make a new one. Just throw a dart at map and have Adol go on a new quest

[Anonymous No.3989087]

>>3980687
It could make sense in a lot of ways, just that the one Nintendo went with is stupid as fuck.
It could have been the original timeline that's the reason why OoT is the only time Link gets frozen to wield the Master Sword. Child Link went to fight Ganondorf with the Master Sword and got fucked. ALttP's Link's wish at the end of the game to undue Ganon's fuckery could have been why OoT Link freezes. Hyrule Historia shits all over that so though I guess not. My point being anything would have been better than "lol failure."

[Anonymous No.3989754]

>>3989087

It's stupid no matter how you shake it. Reincarnation is fine and good but even allowing for a shared penchant for green tunics the very notion they'd all be named Link is pushing things especially when Zelda and Gannon are simultaneously in the same boat and does nothing but short sell whatever flimsy characters they already have.

We're in a state of reboot that a comics company would find excessive. Nintendo is terrified to break the mold but at the same time refuses to let the characters change and grow.

[Anonymous No.3990046]

>>3989754
>Nintendo is terrified to break the mold but at the same time refuses to let the characters change and grow.
Really, it's just time to stop buying Zelda games, because it signals this is ok.

Of course, there will always be endless summer to prop up the bad behavior, so there is really nothing you can do.

[Anonymous No.3990072]

>>3989754
>they'd all be named Link
Technically that's just the "default" name, he can be named whatever

>when Zelda and Gannon are simultaneously in the same boat
Zelda is the traditional name of all girls in the Hyrule royal family stated as far back as Zelda II, it's not uncommon for that thing to happen out of being that referential to past ancestors especially ruling families who want to invoke the prestige that previous Kings/Queens had. Examples like the Diadochi and Ptolemaic dynasty where they're all named Ptolemy and Cleopatra

Ganon is supposed to be the same guy across all games

[Anonymous No.3990709]

>>3990072
>Technically that's just the "default" name, he can be named whatever

technically that's BS and you know it.

>Zelda is the traditional name of all girls in the Hyrule royal family stated as far back as Zelda II

That's not impossible but it still feels disingenuous

Look let me put it this way. When someone asks you who your favorite character is and if it's one of the big three for whatever reason you shouldn't have to specify which version

[Anonymous No.3990732]

>>3983115
>In a world covered by endless water...
Mega Man Legends reference???

[Anonymous No.3990875]

>>3982259
>>3982670
>>3982414
Is this what being owned looks like?

[Anonymous No.3990878]

>>3983115
You forgot the best part

>they turn into birds
>that can't even fly without a third party to give them wings

[Anonymous No.3990912]

>>3979415
Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.3991293]

>>3979415
It means Fi has been a good girl and deserves some rest.

[Anonymous No.3991314]

>>3991293

Who?

[Anonymous No.3993132]

>>3991314
Skyward Sword.

Not retro.

[Anonymous No.3995269]

bump

[Anonymous No.3997274]

>>3979415
Forever the best zelda

[Anonymous No.3999619]

Is ALttP the comfiest Zelda?

[Anonymous No.4000710]

>>3985547
>needabiggerhook.png

[Anonymous No.4000795]

>>3986152
>>dies at 63

Adol confirmed for third worlder.

[Anonymous No.4000828]

>>3979415
>What did they mean by this?

> Implying that there is an cohesive Zelda storyline beyond the easy links (OOT > LTTP)

> Implying that the Official Timeline(s) are anything more than fanfiction garbage.

[Anonymous No.4000836]

>>3979525
>>Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are both direct sequels to Wind Waker

Doesn't mention OOT > LTTP. Ocarina of Time was (obviously) written as a video game retelling of the Prequel Intro of LTTP.

[Anonymous No.4000852]

lmao that the OOT > LTTP direct sequel Imprisoning War has been relegated to some 3rd-timeline bullshit that they forgot about when designing the original retarded 2-timeline bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4000949]

>>3980115
>>3980541
The Hyrule Fantasy is a tagline, not a subtitle, you stupid faggots.

[Anonymous No.4001097]

>>4000949
It is not a subtitle, but the title.

[Anonymous No.4001171]

>>4001097
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.4001593]

>>3979415
I like to think of it as a "so the story goes" Situation.

[Anonymous No.4001780]

>>3981352
As well as wind waker, they mentioned a great flood

[Anonymous No.4001787]

>>3979479
Your opinions aren't more valid because you put them in an overused format

[Anonymous No.4001794]

>>4000836
to bad those games are horrible and play like shit.

[Anonymous No.4002017]

>>3979437
I'm almost with you but obviously there is a vague timeline. The games are all reimaginings of the original despite the fact there is a timeline though.

Since Breath of the Wild everyone has been circlejerking and theorizing their dumb little faggot brains out trying to figure out where the timeline fits in, but they completely and utterly missed the part about Impa's dialogue which means ALL the original games are retconned and what really happened was was the story they tell you about guardians 10,000 years ago.

the fucking HYRULE HISTORIA has a disclaimer on it that says it's all just someone recording legends and not a literal bible for the timeline. It really is just reimagining the franchise over and over again. Even though there is a slight timeline (OoT splits off, LoZ is last, Skyward Sword is first) IT DOESN'T MATTER if Nintendo Can do whatever the fuck they want like add Beedle in everything ine very timeline, etc.

[Anonymous No.4004289]

>>4002017
>the part about Impa's dialogue which means ALL the original games are retconned and what really happened was was the story they tell you about guardians 10,000 years ago.
I don't think that's canon. It's already established that NOA made a lot of stuff.

[Anonymous No.4004296]

They mean that it's a NEVERENNNDIIING STOOOOOOORYYYYY

[Anonymous No.4004328]

>>4002017
When it comes down to it, it's a legend, and legends have as many tellings as storytellers, even if they all involve the same characters and themes. Just look at any mythology.

I mean, many of the early games are the same protagonist, it's in the plot in the manual, but it really doesn't matter if they change it up and fail to connect it to the original. But when I think about it like that, in many ways I think it would be much more interesting if a company would go out on a limb and come up with new material, even if it superficially resembles the old stuff. New ideas are needed, with companies like Nintendo mainly milking their close to 30 year or IP. It would be good for everyone.

[Anonymous No.4006387]

>>4004296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzE0Sq2-Yhg

[Anonymous No.4007662]

Not part of the discussion but does anyone know what would happen if I pulled the Green Gauntlet glitch in OoT with a Golden Scale and a 50 seed bullet bag instead of a Silver Scale and 40 seed bullet bag?

Speaking of that how come no one else found a glitch that lets Link wear different color tunics? If the gauntlet glitch just executes the cheat but with an in game means of setting it up I'm sure it's possible that there's a tunic version.

[Anonymous No.4007896]

The games are all connected, but they are just so far apart time wise that it's pointless to even consider story elements. It's like saying stuff taking place now has relevance to something from 10,000 years ago.

Yeah, I mean, you can find ancient artifacts somewhere and maybe talk about what you think happened, but no one knows for sure and it would be dumb to even have a Zelda game that takes place 10,000 years later connected to that one at all, anyway.

[Anonymous No.4008032]

shit like LoZ time line makes me love Legacy of Kain and TES timelines more than ever

[Anonymous No.4008750]

>>3979437
A link between the worlds is a direct sequel to ALTTP, it even has wizard guy whose name I refuse to type.

[Anonymous No.4008759]

>>3979479
>>4001787
I kinda think it's a compination between "Nintendo makes shit up on the go", and "official timeline"

[Anonymous No.4009693]

>>3979437
>I refuse to believe there is a Zelda timeline, and each game is just a reimagining of the same basic theme and characters.

It's true that there is no overall timeline, but most games were individually conceived of as sequels or prequels to previous games. So Zelda 2 is clearly a sequel to Zelda 1, OoT was meant to be a prequel to ALttP, and MM, WW, and TP were all meant to follow after OoT. But it was never clear how the NES games were supposed to fit in and OoT being a prequel to multiple games turned it into a huge mess.

[Anonymous No.4009709]

>>4009693
I think the problem is trying to unite all the games into a single timeline, which imo feels really shoehorned. my headcanon is that Legend of Zelda is a combination of sequels/prequels and spiritual successors. different games might be taking places thousands of years apart, or in different realities.

[Anonymous No.4012221]

>>4008750
Agahnim. Just remember it's not like Ghirahim.

[Anonymous No.4014313]

Where do you guys think the next Zelda will take place?

[Anonymous No.4014341]

>>4014313
Hyrule.

Anyway, if they want to be original, they'll have to do some sort of more urban setting. Nearly everything else has been done now.

[Anonymous No.4014365]

>>4014341
>they'll have to do some sort of more urban setting
That was one of the original plans for BotW

[Anonymous No.4015685]

>>4014341
I meant on the timeline.

[Anonymous No.4015702]

>>3979437
>I refuse to believe there is a Zelda timeline

Good man. I will not even consider it until there is a Zelda where you pull the Master Sword from the corpse of Ganon from WW.

[Anonymous No.4015720]

>>4015685
After BOTW. I think they're going to go for a more linear timeline from now on, that's why there's so many heavy hints that it takes place on some kind of convergence timeline. Now everything is canon.

[Anonymous No.4018082]

I wonder what the BotW DLC will be.

[Anonymous No.4020149]

>>3989754
You just basically admitted you don't care about the story. If they changed the characters, then you would just complain that there's no consistency, like people who think Wind Waker LINK isn't the Hero of Time. Waaaah! Suddenly Nintendo is just trying to force connections that aren't there is what you're thinking, right? Damned if they do, damned if they don't.