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3966924 No.3966924 [Reply] [Original]

is there anything more tedious than the first couple of hours of older rpgs?

>> No.3966936

>>3966924
Yeah, the first couple of hours in post-SNES RPGs, where the whole thing at best is 90% cutscenes, 10% gameplay.

>> No.3966941

>>3966924
Yes, the last couple of hours of any RPG.

>> No.3966953
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>>3966924
Yes. Try getting the maximum amount of points in the Desert Bus minigame from Penn and Teller's Smoke and Mirrors.

You have to drive all the way from Tuscon, Arizona to Las Vegas, Nevada at a top speed of 45 MPH. There's no traffic, hardly anything to look at, and if you go off-road, you stall and get towed all the way back to Tuscon (in real time, no less). Assuming you don't get towed, the drive takes eight hours, and you need to be alert and active the whole time. Reaching Vegas gets you one point, and driving all the way back to Tuscon gets you another. Unless you've sped the game up using tools, it will take you 33 days of continuous play to reach the maximum score of 99.

>> No.3966962

>>3966936
t. SNES fanboy

>> No.3966968

>>3966953
>The game that was made to mock Janet Reno.

>> No.3967039

The last 20 hours of later RPGs.

>> No.3967146

>>3966924
The first couple hours of opening cutscenes in modern RPGs.

>> No.3967220

>>3966936
So you only play SNES RPG's.

>> No.3967307

>>3966962
>>3967220
so are we just going to pretend that NES, SMS, Genesis, etc. RPGs don't exist...?

>> No.3967332

>>3966936
This. Even in games where this shouldn't be a problem, like the 3D Ys games, I still have to sit through a shitload of cutscenes and dialogue that makes any attempt at replaying them a chore and a half.

>> No.3967343 [DELETED] 

>>3966953
Did you also know that Super Mario Bros 2, wasn't even originally a Mario game to begin with? Instead it was a Japanese only game named Doki Doki Panic with completely different characters!

>> No.3967348

>>3966936
fpbp

>> No.3967394

I actually FF did a good job with the the intro actually, it's quite interesting, especially for the time. I really liked how they almost immediately throw you into a boss battle, whom you also fight as the final boss. It's also cool how it's revealed that the entire sequence was a prologue as the true opening that plays when the heroes are crossing the bridge.

In Mother you had two "boss battles" back to back like in the first five minutes? And you were left to your own devices soon after that to explore the world.

I think after the 80s there was a definite urge to create these sprawling epics and I don't blame them at all, given the context of the times.

Also, I think the start is actually the most fun in these types of games because they haven't gotten on your nerves yet. Especially if the game is going to be over 30 hours long, then maybe at that point it's not even worth playing because you can't trick yourself into believing you're a starry-eyed 12 year old again.

>> No.3968642

>>3966968
Wat?

>> No.3968703

>>3966924
the last few hours those rgps

>> No.3968864

>>3968642

http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/desert-bus-the-very-worst-video-game-ever-created/amp#

Its explained in the first half of the article

>> No.3968867 [DELETED] 

>>3967343
an upvote for you, my friend!

>> No.3971550 [DELETED] 

>>3966924 finger fucking your mom gets pretty tedious

bump

>> No.3972602

>>3967394
FF's start is also interesting because it's literally a ballsy jab at DQ I with "Yeah, saving one princess is shit-tier adventure. You've spent half a game on it, we're doing it in 15 minutes". Pity that the funds were so miserable it took too long to develop and DQ II came out before.

>> No.3972620

>>3966924
that's true for almost every rpg, classic to modern

>> No.3973002

>>3966924
The whole genre is tedious. Modern rpgs just replaced grinding with hours of cutscenes.

>> No.3973028

>>3966924
Final Fantasy honestly gets a bad rap. You spend FAR less time grinding in even the oldest FF games than you do in Persona 1.

>> No.3973167

>>3966936
This one of the reasons why the SaGa games are so good.

>> No.3973324

>>3966924
It is funny you use FF1 as an example, given that in less than 10 minutes you start killing and plundering dungeons, the main experience of the game.

>> No.3973346
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Life

>> No.3973601

loved the tedium of the original Dragon Quest

no teammates, no gimmacks, just take your hero, grind up levels, and save the kingdom. It's kinda comfy in a way

>> No.3973610

>>3973601
Word, I don't know why people complain about grinding so much, it's kinda comfy in a way.

>> No.3973616

>>3973324
Wut.

>> No.3973795

>>3973610
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Gee sure is comfy

>> No.3973808

>>3973795
It's not as braindead as you make it to be, you still need to watch out for your health, maximize exp gain vs time spent, etc.

>> No.3975159

>>3973616
Wut yourself. You can literally stroll right up to the Temple of Fiends at the start of the game. If you take two minutes to equip yourself first you'll even come out victorious. It will definately take less than 10 mins unless you really dawdle.

>> No.3975189

More tedious?

How about shit like today's RPG's which are basically "walk around for half an hour with nothing to do" simulators.

>> No.3975217

>>3973808
Once you've figured out the optimal way to gain experience, gameplay becomes braindead.

>> No.3975227

>>3966924
The remaining 30+ hours after the first two on newer RPGs.

>> No.3975307
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>>3966936
>the first two hours of forced tutorials in Skyward Sword

>> No.3977447

>>3975307
Interestingly enough there are hacks that disable the exposition altogether. More games should have that.

>> No.3977468

>>3973028
I have never understood people saying there's too much grinding in the FF series. I've played through the first 8 and am currently playing the 9th and I think the only times I've legitimately grinded on a first, blind play through is on my current run of 9(probably didn't even need to, I just felt like enemies were doing a bit more damage than I liked) and on 5 for some extra abilities. I usually do all the grinding I need by playing the game and doing side quests and shit.