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Anonymous Mon Apr 24 04:19:07 2017 No.3943297 [Reply] [Original]

Hardest rpgs?

What are the hardest rpgs you guys have played? Preferably games that are difficult due to their puzzles or decisions in combat, not just boring grindfests.

Action or turnbased, Western or Japanese, doesn't matter, just looking for some good hard rpgs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 04:53:10 2017 No.3943321 >>3943297 I really like the concept that game but it's way too tough even for wizardry standards. Were the ports easier?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 05:06:06 2017 No.3943336 >>3943321 Both the PCE port and the arrange mode on the PS1 have features to make things easier like non-random summons and being able to issue commands.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 05:38:56 2017 No.3943369 Chaos Strikes Back is hard as hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 17:38:06 2017 No.3944604 >>3943321 I can't wait for someone to translate the arrange mode for the PS1 versions of 4 and 5.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 18:00:56 2017 No.3944646 File: 1.07 MB, 1200x1200, Throb of the Demon's Heart is actually an unrelated spin-off and not a version of Wizardry IV, the rest of the post is 100% accurate though.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3943297

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 18:01:59 2017 No.3944648 >>3943336 >PCE port >of Wizardry IV I don't believe you. Prove that this exists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 18:19:07 2017 No.3944685 I cannot seem to wrap my head around blobbers in general.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 18:21:37 2017 No.3944689 >>3944646 Speaking of, are there any fan translations for any of the Japanese-only Wizardry games? Would like to give them a go since I enjoyed KMT and the like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 20:14:42 2017 No.3944892 >>3944648 Japan fucking adores Wizardry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-cq1IB1eYI

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 04:38:17 2017 No.3945730

I think the hardest I actually beat is Wizardry V.
Facing three mirror matches before the last boss with no practical way to rest in between was a tough nut to crack. The game also relies less on bad luck instant death encounters than its predecessors.

>>3944892
>>3944648
It's pretty much a bonus in Wiz 3. You don't even get to select it directly from the start menu.
Note that the PCE Wizardry don't have the English options from the other Japanese Wizardry ports.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:43:31 2017 No.3946826 >>3944689 http://www.romhacking.net/?page=translations&genre=&platform=&status=1&languageid=12&perpage=20&title=wizardry&author=&transsearch=Go

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:01:29 2017 No.3946961 >>3944689 Yeah, but there are no walkthroughs or maps for most of them. It kind of feels like being on the frontier

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:09:57 2017 No.3946973

>>3943297

>rpgs
I take it we're not including roguelikes, then? NetHack, SLASH'EM are pretty insane to me. They have all the features of an old western RPG except (a) more simiplistic (b) barely any or just comedic story and (c) permadeath

If we're not including roguelikes, Early Fire Emblem, Shin Megami Tensei or Advance Wars games probably fit this description. Obviously an RPG can be difficult via requiring grinding like the first Dragon Quest but strategy RPGs seem more legitimate imo as dying in Etrian Odyssey is your own damn fault.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 00:56:17 2017 No.3947796 >>3946961 There are Japanese guides. I used one when I couldn't figure out how to get the bomb in Gaiden 1. You have to combine a watch with a treasure chest. http://infoseek_rip.g.ribbon.to/hkaityo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/wiz/wiz1ba01.html#g1b01

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:35:27 2017 No.3947992 FTL Hard as balls

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 03:49:32 2017 No.3950379 >>3943297 I'd rather a Hardest non-RPG thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:59:47 2017 No.3950721 Romancing SaGa 1 and 2 FF Brave New World Soujinengi pre weekend

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 08:57:49 2017 No.3950841 >>3943297 Hardest I've personally played? I dunno ADOM probably never got close to beating that shit

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:22:43 2017 No.3951826

>>3944646

Wizardry 4 also to this day imho has the best twist of a game EVER with that complete nowhere turnaround which ironically after biting yourself through these incredible hard floors puts you right back where you started and then with all those multiple endings, then three extremely overlookable ridiculously hard to get "real" endings with the swords- which again are just a masquerade to the REAL REAL ending...

So let me ask you /vr/
Have you forgotten something?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:31:21 2017 No.3951838 Rage of Mages 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 21:09:45 2017 No.3952670 >>3944689 The Wizardry Gaiden games as well as a couple others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:40:00 2017 No.3953487 >>3944604 Don't they have the option to play in english? Wizardry 1-3 have it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 05:55:46 2017 No.3953554 >>3950721 Fuck off with that weeb crap.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 06:00:59 2017 No.3953562 >>3953554 Go back to Bioware general.

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