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Which videogames capture the closure of the 16b era? That is, a game that displays the tricks and state of the art, but just before the whole thing passed away in favor of 32b?

>> No.3922792

>>3922787
Literal cuckold

>> No.3922793

Vectorman 2, unless you consider things like SNES SFX chips as a definitive part of the era. I don't.

>> No.3922802

>>3922793
Vectorman looks like SHIT.

>> No.3922807

>>3922802
Oh, you want the prettiest game instead? Should have mentioned that.

>> No.3922835

Panorama Cotton

>> No.3923051

>>3922792
I'm glad vr has something to say about this subject. Is BL the only game in which character doesn't get the girl?


>>3922807
That's not me. But i don't want to limite the thread to only the technical/visual aspect, however is one to be taken into account.

>> No.3923076
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3923076

Yoshi's island

>> No.3923285

Fuck Yoyo

>> No.3923289

Star Ocean

>> No.3923290

>>3922793
>unless you consider things like SNES SFX chips as a definitive part of the era. I don't.
See:
>>3923076

>> No.3923325

>>3922787
Can you tell me the name of that game? And is it worth playing?

>> No.3923327

I mean on snes tales of phantasia and star ocean are probably among the best looking. Tons of little tricks and a lot of use of foreground (could be seen as a detriment in some ways for play-ability though).

>> No.3923329

>>3922793
>>3923076
>>3923290
You guys are kinda mistaken.
It's not like the FX Chip made 3d polygons possible.
The SNES could do them by its own, but they ran at like 1 fps.
The FX just gave it more power to process them faster.
Doom worked bot because the maps were giant polygons.
YI also had polygons here and there but overall it was more because the game required more power.

So it was entirely possible to have a pure FX 2D game with absolutely no polygons.

>> No.3923335

>>3923325
Star Ocean and FUCKING yes.

>> No.3923338

>>3923325
Bahamut Lagoon. It's pretty good, definitely an underrated Square game.

>> No.3923350

>>3923335
Fucking shit it's Bahamut Lagoon, I need fucking glasses.

>> No.3923352

>>3923325
what anon >>3923338 says. Generic srpg, but the dragon system (you don't control dragons directly, you feed them with items) is worth it.

>> No.3923458

>>3923338
>>3923350
>>3923352
Thanks! I'll be sure to give the game a try later.

>> No.3923595

>>3923338
Great game

Wonderful, if cliched story mainly pulled by its strong characterization. A lot of fun and easy too.

>> No.3923726
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Yoshi's Island, no contest. Nothing 3D has managed to surpass it yet.

>> No.3923750
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Seiken Densetsu 3
Alien Soldier
Wonder Project J
Rendering Ranger

>> No.3923761
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3923761

>>3923750
Forgot to add Sapphire on PC-Engine as well.

>> No.3923802

>>3923750
I have been playing SD3 recently and it's broken as fuck. It's like there were too many bugs when the game was finished and they said 'fuck it' and released it.

>> No.3924156

>>3923802
the bugs never affected my enjoyment.
I hope this Switch collection fixes them though

>> No.3924219

>>3922787
Terranigma.

>> No.3924228

>>3923802
It's not a very good game.

>> No.3924231

>>3923076
Yeah, Yoshi's Island signified the lowest point and death of 16-bit to me as well.

>> No.3924251

I present to you, The Polygonizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhBSEN2xBhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw_h8J6vGXQ

>> No.3924290

Sega's System Y is probably the most impressive 2D 16-bit system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoGaj2HnVUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU4FuowTv6Q

>> No.3924363

>>3922787
These are my nominees.
>Star Ocean on Super Famicom for having:
voice acted segments; mode seven; sprites that look different on different locations; pushed amount of items it could hold; signified RPG fad

>Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 for:
filmed-first-then-made-sprites; being the game series that started gaming rating system; lore and secrets all over the game; the fighting game fad.

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>>3924290
Gorgeous.

>> No.3926578

>>3923076
Is yoshi's island the wind waker of super mario bros?

>> No.3926587

Tales of Phantasia has a full J-pop song in it. Pretty impressive for a SFC game

>> No.3926601

>>3923329
>The SNES could do them by its own, but they ran at like 1 fps.
Which made it virtually worthless. That's why people don't talk of the vanilla SNES as capable of polygons.

Sega Genesis on the other hand...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9v-9lGNJQ4

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To me it's quite literally Treasure Hunter G. The last squaresoft game ever made for the SNES (or super famicom rather), released in 1996. Seems to have a lot of prerendered techniques borrowed from SMRPG and had really cool effects. Also the gameplay is a unique tactical blend.

>> No.3926731

>>3922835
This is like the most underrated post in history of underrated post.
Nintendo pigs doesn't deserve you anon.

>> No.3926738

>>3922787
Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean on SNES (both Japanese exclusives) are the absolute bleeding edge of 16-bit console technology. You really can not beat either of them.

>> No.3926752

>>3926718
STING = Gods

>> No.3926758

Clock Tower is the first game that comes to my mind. It really is a game that couldn't have existed earlier in the era due to how experimental and different it was. I'm still amazed that they succeeded in creating something so tense and moody on the SNES.

>> No.3928190

DKC3

>> No.3928650
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>>3923051
>But i don't want to limite the thread to only the technical/visual aspect,

What else do we limit it to then? What else is this question even asking?

>> No.3929325

>>3926718
>>3926752
It's interesting that when you look at the credits for the game you see that there was a lot of staff from both Square and Sting directly working on the project, even if Square was only publishing it.

Sting and Square, quite a pair.

>> No.3929398

Sonic 3D Blast

>> No.3929645 [DELETED] 

>>3922787
>>3923051
Name the game please

>> No.3929647

>>3929645
scroll up

>> No.3929650

>>3929647
Yeah i fucked up

>> No.3929691

Rise of the Robots

>> No.3929857

Remember quite well how I expected Ceres in Final Fantasy VI to actually sing in that opera scene just because it started with "Oh" and got disappointed. How surprised I was with that intro in Tales of Phantasia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sK7W_vS__c

>> No.3929886

>>3926578
>Wind Waker plays almost exactly like Ocarina of time but with radically different art direction
>Yoshi's island has radically different art direction, and plays completely different from any other Mario game at the time
Probably not

>> No.3930084

>>3924290
Galaxy Force 2 is one of my all-time favorite games. I love you for posting it, Anon.

>> No.3930257

Super mario rpg
Sf alpha 3

>> No.3931036

>>3922787
Technically, isn't the psx still 16 bit? They simplu used 32 bit as a buzzword, if i'm not mistaken. Unleas i am...

So anyway, if we're purely talking about 2d snes games, then no game ever really took toe console to it's limits. Things like yoshi's island, street fighter alpha 2 and star icean come to mind, but i think better things were possible.

>> No.3931258

>>3929857
>Ceres in Final Fantasy VI
Let's get the ball rolling on this.

>> No.3933285

>>3929857
Is this the very first example of a weebshit video game? I never associated jrpg's from the 16bit and 8bit eras with anime until I saw that intro.

>> No.3933296

>>3933285
there's no actual distinction between "weebshit" and "not weebshit" in japan, it's all just "video games"

>> No.3933302

>>3933296
>there's no actual distinction between "weebshit" and "not weebshit" in japan

That's because they're all weebs you fucking retard.

>> No.3933306

>>3933302
You're fucking retarded.

>> No.3933309

>>3923051
Live A Live

>> No.3933310

>>3933306
kys

>> No.3933337

>>3933310
no u

>> No.3933387

>>3926578
Don't see it, Yoshi's Island is actually good.

>> No.3933768

>>3933387
What was so bad about Windwaker? Are you Adam Sessler or something?

>> No.3935068

>>3923051
Terranigma

>> No.3935113

>>3928650
sad that this was the last SNES game

>> No.3935120

>>3933768
Different Anon, but it had 2 fun dungeons, and the rest either had buddy ball and chains or were uninteresting.

>> No.3936809
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>>3922787
GBA games in general

>> No.3936813

>>3922787
you google shit like snes library, genesis library, whatever library sort it by year and done.

>> No.3936829

>>3935113
Yeah but Sufami had a better death with Metal Slader Glory: Director's Cut (2000) and Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 (1999).

Also, AFAIK, this is the last Genesis game as well. It's sad. They didn't deserve this shitty game.

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>>3936829
People are still making Genesis games but they're even worse than that. All just crap like this and that pos belt scroller that was getting shilled here.

>> No.3936849

>>3936838

I thought Pier Solar was good?

>> No.3936879

>>3936838
They aren't official games, though.

Is Pier Solar this bad? I see a lot of praise on Sega fansites but the opinions are kinda mixed on other places.

Paprium looks good but generic imo.

>> No.3936909

>>3936809
GBA is 32bit. It's probably the closest thing to SNES2 that there is though.

>> No.3936939

>>3936838
>belt scroller

???

>> No.3937026

>>3936939
It's what Japan calls beat em ups.

>> No.3937047

>>3937026
That's stupid, they're called Slam n' Whams.

>> No.3937069

>>3937026
I think he was asking what belt scroller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3CTqTzkgZQ

>> No.3937128

>>3937069
I don't remember what it was called, just that it looked really bad. Maybe that's what your link was... this pos can't load yt.

>> No.3937139

Just got my sd2snes and a pvmeme, what are some /vr/ approved rpgs?

>inb4 vs recommended
i'd like some non reddit opinions

>> No.3937195

>>3922835
I coming over to suck your dick tonight, anon.

>> No.3937258

>>3937047
As a kid kid I called them walkie sockies. Because you walk and sock people.

>> No.3937290

>>3937069
Are you implying that Paprium is a piece of shit? Because it has the potential to be the best console beat em up ever made, equaling at least Streets of Rage 2. On the technical aspect alone, that new custom chip for audio is a huge bonus and the music is awesome, check out the samplers.

>> No.3937318

>>3937290
>Because it has the potential to be the best console beat em up ever made

Considering they're all garbage, that's a low bar to shoot for.

>>3937258
>>3937047
>>3937026
Stroll 'n Spam
Just pick your best move and use it over and over till you win!

>> No.3937338

>>3937318
>calling SOR2 garbage
>calling Turtles in Time garbage

Found the tasteless underage.

>> No.3937343

>>3937338
Sorry I don't like boring games?

>> No.3937349

>>3937343
Just say you don't like the genre, but don't call trash games that are objectively excellent.

>> No.3937373

>>3937349
I guess we'll just have to disagree on it being objectively excellent. I find SoR 1 and 2 dull as fuck. But that's pretty much every one of these games I've tried.

To each their own. If you like it, more power to you.

>> No.3937397

>>3924290
Imagine if the Genesis had identical hardware to this, sort of like the Neo Geo, but I guess that it would have been prohibitely expensive back in 1988.

>> No.3937403

>>3924251
Is this by any chance the hardware that runs Ace Driver Victory Lap? I remember seeing that game back in the day in my local arcade and I was blown away at how awesome it looked, and how smooth it looked, not having any notion of what FPS was, I just knew it was better than what consoles could do.

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FF6

Suplexing the train was one of the best moments in the game

>> No.3939039

>>3937397
It had three 68k CPUs, SuperScaler GPU, and a boatload more RAM than the NeoGeo.
>>3937403
No, the Polygonizer was System 21. Ace Driver ran on System 22. Believe it or not, System 21 had two 68k CPUs. It used a bunch of Texas Instruments DSPs for doing 3d. It had a bunch of other custom chips as well. I can't seem to find any info on how much it cost when it was initially released, but I'm sure Namco spent a fortune making it. It predates Sega's Model 1.

>> No.3939851

>>3939039
I didn't mean that it was identical in hardware to the Neo Geo, but the same business model of having identical hardware at the arcades and at home.

>> No.3940528

>>3922802
I've been saying that for years.

>> No.3940531

>>3940528
You've been wrong for years.

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>>3933337