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3918339 No.3918339 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw last thread died a quiet death

Can we have a nice Diablo I & II thread? I remember these being regular about a year or two ago but I just now am starting to really get into the series so I think it would be cool for these threads to come back.

Post builds you like, cool items you've found, tips for dumb beginners like myself, etc.

>> No.3918358

>>3918339

trying to farm good items in D2 singleplayer must be hell (no pun intended)

>> No.3918362

PlayStation X has a great port of diablo 1

Best fighter build for 1?
Maybe I'm dumb I think I just put too many points into magic.

>> No.3918607

D2 isn't retro.

>> No.3918662

Am I supposed to turn auras off or do they still work with no mana?

>> No.3918909

D2 was my childhood, and is a nice thing to come back to, but it's not fun all alone, and none of my friends would buy it over 3(which I'm not interested in). How do you usually play it, single or multiplayer?

>> No.3918912 [DELETED] 

>>3918909
Just play 3 or PoE. Stop the autism

>> No.3918916

>>3918912
But i want to play 2, not 3. If i wanted to play 3, i would play 3. Simple as that.

>> No.3919000

This May's ladder reset I'm going to do my first ever regular ladder run. It never occurred to me to just play regular to avoid Best In Slot meta, gearing your merc, rune farming, crafting, racing to pick up socket items before anyone, dealing with Throne hot TPs, dolls, burning souls, and more endless bullshit. I just want to pick up incrementally better rares, slot gems, walk to Chaos, etc. BRING ME BACK.

>> No.3919019 [DELETED] 

>>3918916
Just play 3 or PoE. Stop the autism.

>> No.3919073

>>3919019
>i want to play an old game
>no, play newer game insted
/vr/

>> No.3919108

I really hope blizzards will remaster D2 after SC2, because I tried to play Diablo 2 on an LCD screen and let me tell you - it looks BAD.

>> No.3919121

>>3919108
>my screen is 7 years old
>new games are okay
>old games are okay too
Feels good

>> No.3919126

>>3919121
D2 looks ok on your LCD screen? What is it's resolution and size?

>> No.3919379
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>>3918912
>play Diablo 3

>> No.3919415

I miss this game. I still have it, but fuck the online is dead unless you count the spambots.

I'll just stick to PlugY.

>> No.3919449

Man, Diablo 2 was when I first noticed my addiction.

I would be staying up all night playing, then skipping school just to play it again all night long.

Trading, dueling, doing the Uber bosses (that was a hype fucking patch) I was so young and bad playing this game, but had the most fun.

>> No.3919473

I remember when I was a noob, I'd sneak into Secret Cow Level games after they'd been cleared out, and pick up all the trash loot, and sell it for money.

Too bad occassionally you'd find a little corner they didn't clear out, and have to run from a large group of cows.

>> No.3919761

I SENSE A SOUL IN SEARCH OF ANSWERS

>> No.3919886

>boss dies
>CLICKCLICKCLICKCLICKCLICKCLICK

>> No.3919902

>>3919886
can you imagine how many mice diablo and diablo ii have killed?

>> No.3920190

>>3919761
Moo.

>> No.3920201

>>3920190
I said moo.

>> No.3920468

>>3919108
Play in window mode. It's not the same but it helps

>> No.3920526

>>3919108
>I really hope blizzards will remaster D2
You can't trust them to not fuck it up.

>> No.3920531

>>3920526
Why not? They appear to have done a fine job with Starcraft.

>>3919108
They're doing Diablo 2 as well as Warcraft 3 after Starcraft, we just don't know which they'll be doing first.

>> No.3920759 [DELETED] 

>>3919019
>everyone who doesn't want to play diablo (((3))) is le autism maymay because i said so

I wonder who could be behind this post...

>> No.3920776
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3920776

Any of you lads try this yet?

https://diablo1.ovh.org/hd/

>> No.3921238

>>3920776
dead link?

>> No.3921260

>>3921238
Shouldn't be. Try http instead of https?

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>>3918339

>> No.3921276 [DELETED] 

Diablo 3 is trash and ruined the franchise. Why are we praising it?

>literally WoW-Diablo style
>just mashing cooldown abilities while hack and slashing
>stupid story that was dumb before it even got released
>oh the barbarian is the same as the first one
>oh btw the warrior from the first game and the witch had sex and made this baby who is now the devil
>oh btw this game is shit

>> No.3921327 [DELETED] 

>>3921276
>oh btw the warrior from the first game is suddenly king Leoric's other son who is never mentioned anywhere is the previous games
>oh btw no offline and LAN play, fuck you

>> No.3921336 [DELETED] 

>oh btw the warrior from the first game is suddenly king Leoric's other son who is never mentioned anywhere in the previous games
>oh btw no offline and LAN play, fuck you

>> No.3921341 [DELETED] 

>>3921327
>oh btw the barbarian isn't the same anymore, that was dumb, our bad
>oh btw the rest of the story is still shit, but we're sticking with it anyway
>oh btw the game is easy as shit you can beat it your first time in one sitting without any help and never have to go out of your way for healing, or repairs, completely without a guide, on the hardest starting difficulty there is

>> No.3922016

why's everyone talk about diablo 3

am i on /vr/ still?
did i accidentally click on /v/ instead?

>> No.3922025

>>3922016
Eh, stuff tends to spill over sometimes. Don't pay it much attention.

>> No.3922227

>>3920776
Any lads who are up for playing some D1 HD multiplayer let me know.

http://diablo1.ovh.org/hd/

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I wonder if anyone has this gem on their shelf.

>> No.3923303

Questions: -
Is version 1.13 ramped up in difficulty compared to 1.09?

Is there any way to add sockets to armor besides as a reward for that one quest per run-through?

Is there a way to keep all your stats, but clear your quest log to abuse bonuses?

Any good mods?

Anyone beat this game solo through hell difficulty level? (I know one guy who did it on 1.09 with a paladin. Freaking autistic fuck...)

>> No.3923304

>>3923303
Shit, this was all meant for D2.

>> No.3923694

>>3918358
It's a real nightmare.

>> No.3923902

>>3923303
>Is version 1.13 ramped up in difficulty compared to 1.09?
Not really.
>Is there any way to add sockets to armor besides as a reward for that one quest per run-through?
I think there's a cube recipe to re-roll items to have sockets.
>Is there a way to keep all your stats, but clear your quest log to abuse bonuses?
Aside from literally using a character editor to manually clear your quest completion status, I don't think so.
>Any good mods?
Median XL is probably the most "comprehensive" and well-maintained mod out there.

>> No.3923984

>>3923303
>Is version 1.13 ramped up in difficulty compared to 1.09?
Vastly. Everything in hell has retarded levels of health, and rare aura-enchanted enemies spawn practically every few steps in any direction.
>Any good mods?
No.
>Anyone beat this game solo through hell difficulty level?
Yes, in single-player mode where it's virtually impossible to get high runes to drop. I had to run it with mostly rare and low-level unique gear. I think the most damage reduction I ever managed to have was in the area of 25%.

It's not as bad with a paladin since they have shields with good resistances, and you can socket those with perfect diamonds or combinations of whatever gems you need to offset your lowest resistances.

>> No.3924262

>>3923303

theres a cube recipe to socket armor

>> No.3924356
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3924356

any lads what are up for some D1 HD multiplayer:
50.34.216.174

>> No.3924367 [DELETED] 

To be honest family, playing Diablo 3 couch co-op with your IRL 3D wife is a lot of fun.

I thought /vr/ was mostly people who had transcended their virginity rather than embraced it. Guess not.

>> No.3924374

>>3924367
i feel like this is a bait post

having a wife and playing diablo (((3))) are not mutually forced-inclusive. you're not required to play a shitty meme game just because of the lass. wouldn't you rather play a good game instead? maybe some D1 or D2 over LAN?

but like i said, you're probably just a bait anyway

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>>3924367

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>>3924374
>le parentheses meme
>claiming other people are baitposting

Here is your reply and your costanza reaction image.

>> No.3924410 [DELETED] 

>>3924408
it's not a meme, kike.

>> No.3924414 [DELETED] 
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>>3924374
>>3924410

>> No.3924426 [DELETED] 

>>3924414
nice try jidf

>> No.3924435

>>3923902
>>Is there any way to add sockets to armor besides as a reward for that one quest per run-through?
>I think there's a cube recipe to re-roll items to have sockets.
But I take it whatever special effects the items has gets destroyed?

>>3923984
>Is version 1.13 ramped up in difficulty compared to 1.09?
>Vastly. Everything in hell has retarded levels of health, and rare aura-enchanted enemies spawn practically every few steps in any direction.
I thought so. Damn it got unfair in a hurry on hell level.

>Anyone beat this game solo through hell difficulty level?
>Yes, in single-player mode where it's virtually impossible to get high runes to drop. I had to run it with mostly rare and low-level unique gear. I think the most damage reduction I ever managed to have was in the area of 25%.
Someone posted a mod in the last thread, I think, that made it where you would get XP for enemies playing solo as if you were playing 8-players. I think that also kind of affected the items but I'm not sure.

Thanks guys.

>> No.3924439

>>3924435
>Someone posted a mod in the last thread, I think, that made it where you would get XP for enemies playing solo as if you were playing 8-players. I think that also kind of affected the items but I'm not sure.
Yes, it's called /players 8
It works basically as if you were playing in a multiplayer lobby with 7 other non-partied players, in terms of monster stats, XP, and drop rates.

>> No.3924441 [DELETED] 

>>3924408
it's not a meme, kike.

>> No.3924442

>>3924439
Outstanding. Does it work with 1.09?

Also do you know if you can reverse going from 1.13 back to 1.09?

>> No.3924446 [DELETED] 

>>3924414
nice try jidf

>> No.3924448

>>3924442
Should work with every version from 1.09a onward. In 1.09a you could even set it as high as /players 64, but they revised that down to 8 in 1.09c

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>>3924448
Fantastic. Appreciate the help.

>> No.3924467

>>3924448
Was this that mod?
https://github.com/fearedbliss/Diablo-II--Vanilla-Frosting

>> No.3924469

>>3924467
Oh, I was just talking about using the /players X command in the vanilla game.

>> No.3924478 [DELETED] 

Daily reminder that /vr/ mods are Trumpcucks and this thread is further proof of that.

>> No.3924509 [DELETED] 

>>3924478
nice try jidf
go back to /utg/

>> No.3924513

>>3924478
>/vr/ mods
>[board] mods
FUCK off with this stupid MEME, dude. holy FUCK, when will this dumb and gay MEME finally die.

MODS ARE NOT BOARD-SPECIFIC. MODS ARE GLOBAL. MODS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GLOBAL.

>> No.3924536

Do people still play D2 on Battlenet? i have the original game but i've never tried Battlenet because i'm from South America and my internet connection was very shitty when i was a kid. I'd like to try it now, is it worth it?

>> No.3924583

>>3924513
take a chill pill

>> No.3924598

>>3924536

yeah there's still a decent community

>> No.3924625

>>3924536
Ladder reset in May

Right before then is usually relatively low in activity

>> No.3924628

>>3924583
NO

>> No.3924629
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3924629

Still mfing

>> No.3924631

>>3924629
V I D A

>> No.3924635

>>3924625
Ok, so i'll try it when the ladder resets, ty.

>> No.3924636

>>3924513
Posters aren't board specific either, but just like mods they frequent boards they prefer.

>> No.3924637

>>3924636
mods do not "prefer" boards. that is not real. that is fake.

>> No.3924670

>>3924631
Yeah, i'm from a spanish-speaking country.

>> No.3924689

Serious non-political question.
Can somebody running one version of D2 host a game with someone using another version, like the aforementioned 1.09 and 1.13?

>> No.3924740

>>3924689
Are you asking if, say, someone using v1.13 can host a game, and then have someone using v1.09 join it, and vice versa?

No.

>> No.3924774

Tried to run D2 on my pc(win 10) but the game and pc both freeze whenever i talk to an NPC. compatibility mode doesn't help. Anyone got a solution?

>> No.3924828

>>3924740
Dammit. Thanks though.

>> No.3924937

>>3924356
restarting lobby right now. back up in a minute.

>> No.3924945

>>3918916
Just play D3 or POE. Stop being a child.

>> No.3924948 [DELETED] 

>>3919379
Top quality post there. I am sure you played D3 even one bit.

>> No.3924956 [DELETED] 

>>3924945
>post got deleted
>repost because you're a whiny little meme-spouting cuck
haha fuck off, go back to /v/ with your "le epbin autism" meme. die in a bus fire.

>> No.3924958 [DELETED] 

>>3919019
>deleted
>>3924945

get fucking trolled on, kid. go back to /v/. fuck off with shilling your jewish kike game.

>> No.3924967 [DELETED] 

>>3924945
>everyone who doesn't want to play diablo (((3))) is le autism maymay because i said so

I wonder who could be behind this post...

die in a bus fire, jew.

>> No.3924990

>>3922227
Let's play sometime, anon-sama

>> No.3924991

>>3924990
I've got a lobby open right now, actually. >>3924356

>> No.3925045

>>3924356
closing lobby temporarily. probably will be back up in a few hours.

>> No.3925441

>>3925045
im going to try installing it and joining

>> No.3925457

>>3918358
Its not hard! Playing selffound is a really cool thing.
If you are experienced enough and know what to take and what to sell its really simple.
I played my assa until Hell 80 Solo hardcore.I only got problems when i was sleepy.
Once you reach nightmare you can do runs and get your stuff together. There are also plenty of cheap/viable runewords.

>> No.3925480

>>3924356
Does Tchernobog include all the quests? Last I heard it was just a test.

>> No.3925517
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I was playing through D1 on PSX last summer.
I felt overwhelmingly sad as I advanced through the game/story because I was doing it right after having played through D2 for the story and....I knew what would become of everyone.
Wonderful, wonderful games but so very, very, very sad.

>> No.3925776

>>3925480
Tchernobog includes some of the quests, but not all of them. Butcher, Leoric, Poisoned Water, Zhar the Mad, and Lazarus all basically work as intended, there's a few others that are kinda half-complete (ex. Gharbad the Weak exists, but he just attacks immediately and you don't get any free items from him)

>> No.3925778

>>3925441
Alright lad, lobby's back up.

I don't even know if I forwarded my ports right.

>> No.3925869

>>3925778
im surprised how good this mod works

>> No.3925878

>>3925869
Alright lad, I'm back.

>> No.3925950

>>3925776
Cool. I'll look into this when exams are over.

I enjoyed Belzebub, but was disappointment how it encouraged grinding. Diablio I was able to be completed in one playthrough without a problem. At certain points in Belzebub your numbers just aren't big enough no matter what. I do like that you can transfer items in between characters though and that each class has a handful of intrinsic abilities.

>> No.3926096

>>3924356
Restarting lobby. Back up in a few minutes.

>> No.3926137

>>3926096
im getting timeouts now for some reason

>> No.3926141

>>3926137
Really?
Alright, I'll restart again. should be up in a minute

>> No.3926143

>>3926137
Alright lad, should be back up by now.

>> No.3927194

>>3924356
Lobby is back up again, lads.

>> No.3927197 [DELETED] 

Bump.

>> No.3927231

>>3927197

>> No.3927907

Bump

>> No.3928461

Is the random generation on d2 lod good? if not is there any way I can turn it off?

>> No.3928473

>>3924948
I played D3 and it is hot garbage. Couldn't stomach it past act 3, and I wish I could legally oblige Blizzard to pay me for my wasted time.

>> No.3928553
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I can't imagine being a hammerdin. I have made a few for botting over the years but have never, personally, cast Blessed Hammer. Does anyone actually play this shit without being a bot?

>> No.3928964

>http://diablo1.ovh.org/hd/
tchernobug is really fun 2 player but id love to get a full party going.anyone else want to join? try it out lobby >>3924356 should be up soon otherwise i'll host

>> No.3929991

>>3928553
No

>> No.3930619

>>3918339
What's the best way to play it for the first time nowadays?
No mods with a ladder character or with mods?

>> No.3930651

>>3930619
The first time i played it was on ps1 and after that pc w/ no mods and i gotta say the most fun was in tchernobug. it makes the game a good amount better.

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>>3930619

if May or November, there is a ladder reset nearby so definitely play on the realm then.

If not, well, I've never played mods so I would be biased. But probably still ladder for a first play-through.

>> No.3931762 [DELETED] 

>>3924374
>le epic parentheses

What did he (((meme))) by this?

>> No.3931763 [DELETED] 

>>3931762
It's not a meme, jew.

>> No.3931764

Is Diablo 1 PS1 something I should look forward to?

>> No.3931794 [DELETED] 

>>3931763
>posts a meme
>"it's n-not a meme"

also
>48 second reply time
The truest autism.

>> No.3931797 [DELETED] 

>>3931794
>everyone who disagrees with me is a meme because i said so
not an argument.
fuck off with your typical reddit-tier response.

>using the autism meme that was invented by the british manlet cuck tripfag manly_tears on /v/ in 2009
fuck off back to /v/, you redditoid underage jew

>> No.3931842 [DELETED] 

>>3931797
>this entire post
>42 second reply time

A
U
T
I
S
MEMES

>> No.3931846 [DELETED] 

>>3931842
not an argument.
fuck off back to /v/ with your reddit-tier meme responses.

>> No.3931880 [DELETED] 

>>3931846
but anon
you are the meme responses

>> No.3931881

>>3931764
co-op is rad, but it's a little funky overall. I've been trying to find a copy.

>> No.3932029

>>3922016
Paid shills site-wide.

>> No.3932067

>>3931764
Obviously it's inferior to the PC version, but the novelty and the workarounds regarding playability is very interesting. Namely the surprisingly good freedom of button remapping. Co-op is a great addition. The only real problems with the game are memory card eating saves and the time it takes to do a complete save (world + player).

>> No.3932085

May ladder reset is coming up and I can't decide what to play. But I won't be playing expansion for reasons, I'm going to try having fun in regular ladder hardcore.

>Amazon
>javelins break for good if not careful

>Paladin
>don't want to use hammer, shield bash might be fun but not AoE might be dangerous

>Barbarian
>I don't play barbs

>Necromancer
>love him but afraid army will get wiped clean often

>Sorceress
>I don't play sorcs

How do non-rune chasing shield bashers perform in heavy crowds?

>> No.3932094

>>3932085
I also forgot that vanilla necro's army will disappear between acts, so fuck that.

>> No.3932117

D3 > D1 > D2

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post that piece of gear you found or rolled that made you feel like you won the lottery

>> No.3932175

>>3932117
lol

>> No.3932247

>>3932117
D1 = D2 > D3

>> No.3932443

>>3931846
>not an argument

this is the dictionary definition of a meme response 2bh

but you probably think that dictionaries are a jewish conspiracy or whatever

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>>3918339
>get a cool ethereal rare
>mfw the durability ran out

I'm such a retard

>> No.3932448

>>3932445
self-repair ethereal*

>> No.3932449

Any Gauntlet game > Diablo meth addict shit

>> No.3932572

>>3932445
Does anyone else think the guy in this picture looks slightly like Warwick Davis?

>> No.3932953

>>3930619
I've always played single player or LAN and i love this game, so i don't think you have to wait for the ladder reset to enjoy this masterpiece.

>> No.3932961

>>3932953
You say that.. Until your character is at the end of it's progression, and the last few items you need to perfect your build are ladder only and you need to trade SOJ's to get them non-ladder.

>> No.3933247

>>3928964
>tchernobug
So what is it?

>> No.3933334

>>3933247
It's a multiplayer test version of belzebub for the original DiabloHD/Belzebub adds mechanics and cut content and generally just makes the game more fresh. higher res higher framerate etc. you can also zoom out of your character which is pretty nice.

>> No.3933364

>>3932961
there's probably more and better ladder only gear circulating on non-ladder than there is on the current ladder at this point.

the shit isn't that expensive either unless you're looking for perfect stats, and it's all easily obtainable if you're autistic enough to trade through d2jsp

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>>3933364
I used to hate the place but I suddenly realized it was perfect for storing the value of all your shit between seasons, bans, etc.

Still, I have a single player character that I am trying to make an enigma on my own with. It might be a lost cause, I am thinking.

>> No.3933906

>>3918339
Every time the wife and I play it's always the same thing. Her a summoner Necromancer build and me a thorns aura Paladin build. Easy mode through Hell difficulty.

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>>3923984
The cube recipe that sockets armor and shields has an interesting bug. The ethereal bonus gets reapplied, resulting in absurd defense.

bugged exiles and forts are sort of a thing

>> No.3933910

^
quoted wrong post, meant >>3924435

>> No.3933919 [DELETED] 

>>3932443
>everyone who disagrees with me is a meme because I said so
Not an argument. Fuck off kike.

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I really miss diablo 2 pvp, is there anywhere it is still even somewhat a thing? Necro vs Necro duels were awesome.

>> No.3934062

>>3918339
>be 16
>buy D2 because you loved to play D1 on ps1 with your cousin that one summer when you were 7
>quickly become piss ed it's not just an expanded world on D1 and the game play is different
>push ahead because you paid for this piece of shit
>hit max solo on bnet
>start playing multi
>get raped randomly by assholes
>bend your will to become a demon of vengeance
>make a couple autistic friends (why do I always end up with literally gay friends wherever I go? Whatever)
>stay up night after night siting other players for some perverse satisfaction with your collection of gay/autistic friends
>do this solo even when they log off to sleep
>all you crave is the misery of others, you need noob lamentations to sustain yourself, like water or oxygen
>one day pull yourself free as it caused you to miss a deadline for a term paper, causing you to fail a class you should have had an easy A in
>and the desire remains, it's always there

>> No.3935485

>>3933334
>Belzebub
That adds loads gay shit too right?

>> No.3935497

Anyone wanna play a D2 mod with me? called Nezeramontias. It's old, and ceased dev a long time ago, but it could be fun. I have all night and all day if you're dedicated enough.

>> No.3935701

>>3928553
Its ultra strong in PvP also.
Swap your eth Zakashit for a 35 fcr shield so you hit the next cap.
Pala got the fastest castframes after the sorc and its op as fuck so its a nice choice for a MFer.
I personally like the pala a lot but my favorite is the assasine.

>> No.3935713

>>3932085
Shield charge is mana expensive and has only singletarget damage.
I am no expert in classic but id recommend zeal instead.

Army gets probably shred on Diablo.
Otherwise you could try to play an amazon. Jab is also pretty strong.

>> No.3935718
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>>3932135

>> No.3935724

>>3934059
sadly nothing. Maybe Path of exile

>> No.3937094

>>3918358
Playing sp with plugy. Absolute rager. I thought it would suck because of no trading but the extra stash is a QoL gamechanger.

>> No.3937727
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I just started a fresh sorc on eu. If anyone would like to play, I'll probably be up for another 3 hours.
I'm just goofing around in act1, not doing any quests. gn: pan pw: cake

>> No.3937747

if you want to get back into diablo and avoid bots,cheaters and play some new content I highly recommend Annihulus private server. New patch is coming out today

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>>3937727
>>3937747
Just read about it. Sounds very interesting!
Does it require a big client download? I'm using 4G at the moment, so I don't want to go haywire on my monthly data.

>> No.3937812
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Any east players wanna 1v1?

>> No.3937859

>>3937727
No luck on MP, so I'll be joining some public games. Character is Timpani on EU if anyone feels like playing.

>> No.3937887

>>3919108
How would they do it though? If I remember correctly enemies activate usually once they get on screen, so there was a balance in how many monsters you activated. If there was a larger resolution it would either be a bunch of monsters at a certain distance being idle or the player attracting bigger hordes of enemies than what was originally intended.
>>3922227
This works on new OS's right? I have been wanting to play Diablo 1 again for awhile. I need to do another warrior run.
>>3923984
Ever since that synergy patch it wasn't worthwhile to look at single player past nightmare. It made the game too item dependent and cut down flexibility with some characters. Sucked since I had a barb in Act IV Hell and a Sorc in Act V Hell single player and then the patch dropped. Barb couldn't even one shot anything in Act I Hell after that which was irritating.
>>3924536
Yeah, but expect a ton of bot spam.
>>3918358
Forget about runes. The only good part about it is that you have everything mapped out already.

>> No.3938112

>>3920776
Is there anyway to play this without any of the game changes? Exited the instant I saw a rare item drop. I wanted to play the original game, not a radically modified version of the game.

>> No.3938250

Is D2 worth playing today, especially coming from Titan Quest and Torchlight II? They're a couple of my favorite games, and I picked up D2 awhile ago on battle.net and just never touched it.

>> No.3938276

>>3938250

everyone always comes back to D2, sooner or later. take that as you will

>> No.3938295

>>3937887
>This works on new OS's right? I have been wanting to play Diablo 1 again for awhile. I need to do another warrior run.
Not sure if it works on Linux distros, but it should work on any version of Windows

>> No.3938296

>>3924356
Alright lads. Lobby's back up if anyone wants to join in

>> No.3938558

>>3935497
No one likes le zany mods?

>> No.3938691

>>3924356
Restarting

>> No.3938693

>>3938295
>Any version of Windows
Not really. The site says that Beelzebub works on Windows XP and up.

>> No.3938729

>>3924356
I don't really dig this. It feels like they were converting Diablo 1 into Diablo 2. I like the itemization in Diablo 1 a lot, and when you saw something drop and it had a blue name you wanted to pick it up instantly. Now there are rare and set items and you already know what is going to happen. You get a few rare equipment and they will carry you until your next rare equipment or what ever unique items they put into the game. All blue magical items will just be a waste of time picking up like in Diablo 2.

In Diablo 1 every single magic item was a potential for a big upgrade. You even ignored if it was a short sword because the magic modifiers could make up for the lower base damage compared to something like a bastard sword. Now the items won't have enough magic affixes to them to be worthwhile.

None-the-less there are other alterations in the enemies and such. If I wanted to play Diablo 2 I can pop in the CD, but Diablo 1 is different from its sequel, and it is a shame that people don't appreciate its mid fantasy vibe and instead would rather have constant room clearing skills which the warrior wouldn't be able to cast and certain ones limited to staves or consumed enough mana that you'd need to invest in the potions or that the enemies resistances were spread out enough.

>> No.3938764

>>3938250
>Torchlight 2

My African-American. I just wish they'd released an expansion...
>mfw that game came out almost 5 years ago
>mfw Runic Games is basically ded now

>> No.3939430

>>3938693
Well, I don't expect we've got jokers here trying to run anything on Windows 3.1

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>>3924356
>>3938296
Up

>> No.3939845

Is it possible to just pirate LoD? And if it is, uh... Anyone got a link? I'm flat fucking broke until tomorrow night.

>>3938764
It's my most-played game on Steam.

>> No.3940298

>>3939532
Why don't you download an IRC client (or use a web client...ugh) and make a channel on rizon, freenode, efnet, or some other major irc network? You could post a webchat link to the channel room for tech illiterates that can't into IRC and you wouldn't have to constantly repost "restarting server" notices to the threads; you could just put it in the channel motd or something.

>> No.3940306

>>3940298
>implying anyone would use it

>> No.3940576

>>3940306
I would.

>> No.3940598

>>3939845

torrent it you incompetent simian

>> No.3940713

>>3939845
>Is it possible to just pirate LoD?
Yes

>And if it is, uh... Anyone got a link?
>2017
>not knowing how to pirate

>> No.3940718

This general needs a volafile with the games so people don't need to ask, it'd also be a great way to set up games to play.

>> No.3941021

>>3928553
Lol'd. Last words.

>> No.3941030

Found tal amu on the welcome to travincal tresher boss on normal.

Friend guy found zod on hell cowrun.

I don't know what's the rarest. I guess it's out in the billions but I'm not sure.

>> No.3941058

>>3921265
>forgetting LoD expansion.

Shame on you

>> No.3941063

>>3928553
>Last words: lag

Clearly a hardcore character. Enigma/Hoto is such a wonderful combo

>> No.3941069

>>3934059
Middle of may the ladder resets. bout three weeks from now a lot of people will be playing. The true way to pvp is on hardcore mode. whole other game

>> No.3941079

The "Welcome to Travincal" thresher boss

that shall be his new name in my mind

>> No.3941268

>>3919449

Haha this. Sure, I knew I was addicted to gaming earlier than that, but Diablo and D2 were the first times where I'd start playing at 6pm, and not get to bed til 4-5am the next morning.

Fuck I loved those games.

>> No.3942889

>>3919108
They did, it's called Torchlight 2.

>> No.3942923

This thread activated my gem

>> No.3943156

>>3941030
>I don't know what's the rarest.
Tyrael's Might, maybe. That's another one of those ridiculously out in the one-in-millions/billions range items.

>> No.3943240

>>3943156

I'd go Zod rune and Tyrael's Might. I think both have a 0.0001% drop chance, or something ridiculous like that.

>> No.3943268

>>3918607
>a game released 18 years ago
>not retro xD

Fuck off with your selective and ridiculous retro """requirements""".

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mmmm 7th hell cow run 0%mf

>> No.3943604

When Diablo II was initially released were runeword/cube formulas publicly available?

>> No.3943761

>>3943518
Jah, Ith, Ber.

That's Enigma, right? Been a LONG time

>> No.3943987

AFAIK mf doesn't affect rune drops

>> No.3944020

ah man this triggered me , reinstalling now

>> No.3944459

>>3943761
das rite

>> No.3944670

>>3943987
mf is a placebo

>> No.3945126

>>3943604
Runes were introduced with LOD, not the initial release. At that time I think arreat summit posted all the runewords pretty much right when the expansion came out, but they said there might be more (there never were)

>> No.3945204

>>3943987

it doesn't. they have a fixed drop rate which is why if you're specifically hunting for runes its better to kill swathes of small, easily killable enemies. or farm the countess.

>> No.3945475

just starting a new D2 character on bnet now.

US east

if anyone would like to play, reply to this post and i'll get a game up for us

>> No.3945671

Why do you guys play bnet when SlashDiablo exists?

>> No.3945684

>>3943604
runes weren't in the game. cube formulas had to be found and were all found quickly because there were only a few recipes.

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>>3945671
>not playing plugy

i refuse to mule ever again

>>3945204
can countess drop up to zod or is she limited? I find it easier to farm pit and cows. found cham, jah, 2x bers recently.

>> No.3946193

Diablo II newb here. I don't understand the point of full sets. The green named ones. None of my characters can use them.

>> No.3946545

>>3946193
D2 sets suck ass, whole lot of them.

I think only Trang-Oul's and Tal-Rasha's are end-game viable in full. Sigon for twinking rush to Nightmare.

>> No.3946562

>get rushed through Hell with the promise of giving rusher the Izzy runes
>*click click click click click* anyway

Hahahaha, he did acts 1-3.5 for nothing

>> No.3946667

>>3946193

they were a neat idea that was poorly implemented, most are unusable by the time you collect them

>>3946562

that's mean

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>Just now playing javazon for the first time through

fun!

>> No.3946812

>>3946679

javazons are actually powerful as fuck. charged strike and lightning fury are incredibly powerful when fully leveled. combine that with something like freezing arrow in your offhand and you're an unstoppable killing machine even on hell

>> No.3947296

>tfw can't find a 4os sword for spirit

>> No.3947310

>tfw you remember that Blizzard ruined cows in patches that nobody asked for or wanted

The latest version is complete shit. Give me back effective and fun cows.

>> No.3947314

>>3947310
How was it before? All you gotta do now is just not kill the king. Alternatively you can run single player + plugy and do all the runs you want.

>> No.3947317

>>3946679
I made a Lightning Fury javazon last ladder reset because it seemed kinda fun. It didn't have extremely high end gear but I had Titans and a healthy stack of +skill. The damage wasn't quite there until I tried Charged Strike. Holy fuck if it wasn't for melee range, there would be no reason to play Lightning Fury anymore. Just take a spear and poke the living shit out of everything especially if every bolt hits the same body. Shit hits like a truck. >>3946812

>> No.3947335

>started playing again a week ago after many years
>been naming every one of my games "vg" in hopes of someone joining
>nobody ever has

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>finally get a 4os sword
>runeword rolls like shit

;_;

>> No.3947401

started playing again the other day but it seems kinda pointless knowing the ladder reset is coming in may. should i just wait a few weeks to start playing?

>> No.3947416

>>3947401
Same, but I'm already geared. I'll just save my character for non ladder and start again when they reset.

>> No.3947575

>get to the countess in hell
>3 AM
>hear knocking on my bedroom door
>I live by myself

I'm shitting my pants right now.

>> No.3947578

>>3947575

YOUR BLOOD WILL BOOOOOOIL

>> No.3947582

>>3947578
You what's more spooky?

She dropped only a single ort rune in fucking hell.

>> No.3947621

>>3947582

kek. her first drop is the "real" drop too. (ie, drop chance is boosted).

basically the game just told you to go fuck yourself

>> No.3947694

>>3947621
And my first hell andariel kill didn't give me shit. I can't even tell if I got the quest bug to work.

>> No.3947758

>>3947694
"they" say the andariel bug activates if you talk to warriv to go west in the same game as having killed andariel. pretty straightforward.

you will be able to tell whether it's bugged if she rarely drops blue. the blues will be "failed set items" and have unusual durability

>> No.3947761

*go east, that is

>> No.3948093

>>3947694
last i checked it was patched in the latest version

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>>3923303
>Anyone beat this game solo through hell difficulty level?
I choose wind druid, the only issue that pops up is the phys immune H.ancient quest really.. just kite with hurricane and an inventory full of health pots.

Then once I make an Insight I'd roll a blizz sorc to farm h.Meph with.

>bait meph
>tele lower left section
>meph casts from stairs/moat area
>act 2 merc eats his casts with G.Angel (or the cold resist potion) and a rockstopper from across the moat
>wear whatever you like and dps all you want

>made a dps calculator years later, best gear vs okayish gear.. for all sorc builds wasn't an actual big deal in the end
>okayish gear tier Ice blast at a FCR breakpoint out DPSs Blizzard with the best gear
>hammerdin was 4x as effective
Never liked hammerdin but the Whitstan's Guard on any class gives you that 'blocks almost everything' feel.

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>>3948097
The reason why I made a DPS calculator: I couldn't easily make a level 70 character in a day in path of exile.

Revisiting the D2 mechanics with new eyes, I wanted to know what I missed out on with meteor/fire ball or lightning builds.
>when bosses take 50% to 75% LESS damage, level 1 cold mastery helps waaaay more than any absurd numbers the stat page said
>end game skillers bring the max real level input into cold mastery into single digits
>5000-75%, 1250 dmg
>2500-(75%-20%), 1125 dmg
>50,000-75%, 12500 dmg
>25,000-(75%-105%), 32500 dmg

>> No.3948193

>>3947314
It used to be really good for leveling.

>> No.3948464

>>3942889
fuck no!
Torchlight 2, while interesting, is way, WAY too easy.

>> No.3948497

>>3948097
>>3948136
EXCUSE ME
where can i get high rez pics of the pics of Tristram in those images?????

>> No.3948504

>>3948497
I would FRAME that one with the cemetary/town in the bg

>> No.3948509

>>3947382
i thought spirit was a shield only word?

>> No.3948962

>>3948509
It's both, but for sorcs getting a shield is way harder, since you need a 4os monarch kite shield, which has the lowest str req, but is quite hard to find.

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>>3948962
>but is quite hard to find

Not really. Farm Pit and Cows, drops every now and then. However, I can't find enough ethereal elite armors and polearms. I have Lo sitting away and waiting for that 4os, and I always ebug 3os.

>> No.3949045

>>3949038
>single player plugy

Why can't you be on bnet and give me one? Like damn. You're talking about farming in hell, right? Because I'm on a2 hell and struggling like crazy. No idea what to improve. My merc dies like a bitch too, and i can't find a high def armor for smoke.

>> No.3949113

>>3948136
where's this magical DPS calculator

>> No.3949171

>>3948962
I guess I never looked at it for a Sword 'cause I always ran Hoto

>> No.3949178

>>3949171
But hoto is expensive, what do you get before hoto? Spirit.

>> No.3949181

>>3949178
probably some generic +1 skill weapon or something.

it's been a long time.

>> No.3949203

>tfw nobody to help me with duriel on EU ladder

>> No.3949250

>>3949203
>EU
why?

>> No.3949276

>>3949250
Because my ping is too high on US???

>> No.3949426

>kill Duriel for the first time in hell
>3 blues and two scrolls

Thanks a lot blizzard.

>> No.3949484

>>3948497
>>3948504
this is from my personal D3 artbook, debinded and scanned (for private tracker credit)
http://www21.zippyshare.com/v/nMma4tYE/file.html
but Blizzard gave away a few of those pages as backgrounds before

>>3949113
it's something I made in excel, was deleted some time ago and images of it went down when what.cd closed.

Used reference pages that discussed how the skills applied damage over time, cast rate breakpoints, skill calculators for base damage. Had to make my own rotations to figure out what applied the most damage over an 8 second period to simulate sustained DPS.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090402040700/https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Breakpoints

I could remake it, what would you like to see?

>> No.3949495

>tfw died in a3 hell and can't get my body

Fuck those little doll faggots so much. I'm so mad holy shit I literally can't get there without dying, no money left, it's far away from a tp point, elites everywhere.

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>>3949113
found an old image in my history.. doesn't have the paladin numbers in it though

>> No.3949536

>>3949526
be interesting to see how blizzballer compares

>> No.3949561

>>3949536
yeah I'm seeing FB/Meteor isn't on this old one either.. so FB dps numbers are missing

any more specifics on what you'd want to wear? perhaps the 115 FCR break point?

>> No.3949576

>>3949561
>115 FCR break point
I meant 105fcr, for an 8 frame cast rate. 63fcr for 9 frames.

>> No.3949582

>>3949576
for mf blizzballer, going to be hard pressed to reach 105 fcr, so 63 breakpoint is more realistic

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>>3949426
> kill any boss for the first time
> no set items
> some unique item ive already got, even though its supposed to be unique

its like they cant into story

> kill any boss for the first time
> it doesnt immediately jump you one level

its like bosses are just meat gates, there's nothing actually all that great about them

> Duriel in normal difficulty is more dangerous than Diablo because of that damn freeze aura
> die 10 times in a row without the help of my spear dude hireling
> who the fuck is duriel again? like literally this fucker is never talked about before or after that point
> there's even some dude in hell that has a quest to him and he's easier to beat than duriel

>> No.3949619

>have four working installations of d2 across two drives
>haven't played for two ladders
>try running one of them
>requires CD all the sudden
>try all of them
>all require CD
>installations all have the mpqs already and were online installs with blizzards client
???

>> No.3949628

>>3938276
this is correct, there's just a fun playability to it

the graphics are drawn/rendered to look sorta gritty and realistic, reminiscent of original fallout

the cartoony lighthearted approach to other games might support their no-worries hack and slash action but it wears out real quick

also calling out/displaying damage numbers all over the place is distracting, rather unnecessary since if you keep plugging away you'll achieve the end result anyway (and diablo games you get to see a health bar so you know if its working or not)

D2 looks and feels dangerous, makes the game feel fresh. The potions look tasty. The weapons make you wish you had them in real life. The music is wistful.

> the possessed rogue women bounce in just the right way to make your dick hard
> even though they're drawn so small

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>>3945126

MFW
Heard about Diablo 2, thought it was stupid.
Year 2003 comes around, with first girlfriend, we go to a yard sale and I see:

Diablo 2 Battle Chest
The fat cd jewel case version
$5

I grab it because "meh, whatever, its five bucks"

Never played it until 2006.
Pulled it out after moving into new place because I was bored AF.

> Socks Blown Off

however due to never having internet at my own home I never got into playing it or any other games multiplayer

except quake 2 at the university computer lab because it would install quickly and their lab computers had black ice so they didnt care if you installed things

but aside from some issues it is one of the best single player games ive had

>> No.3949649

>>3946545
I've soloed Hell with an IK barb, but you have to build it around eventually finding the whole set and you suck until you get it

>> No.3949652

>>3949619
there's a .reg file that you have to run to apply it to the windows registry

dunno which version you've got, but my portable version had that

>> No.3949673

>>3949276
Ew why do foreign people even play? Aren't the rooms peer to peer at this point?

>> No.3949687

>>3949628
>the possessed rogue women bounce in just the right way to make your dick hard
>even though they're drawn so small

That remaster is gonna be oh so delicious.

>> No.3949695

>>3949687
>he thinks they won't be drawn by the same developers that ruined sc2
can't wait for the plastic, shiney barbie and ken dolls running around in glittering plate.

>> No.3949706

>>3949695
The Starcraft Remastered is looking pretty identical to the original. Also these are pre-rendered 3D assets, they might still have the originals somewhere and they just need to either re-render them again or something.

>> No.3949707

>>3949706
you are a funny man

>> No.3949713

>>3949673
Are you retarded?

>> No.3949724

>>3949713
Anta baka?

>> No.3949737

>>3949724
Poor retard.

>> No.3949763

What crafted gear do you recommend for a sorc in hell so I can survive? I'm using smoke, rhyme, and lore. Dying super easy, mercenary as well.

>> No.3949854

>>3949763
what's your actual full gearset including merc and do you have all the acts unlocked? i assume you're single player.

>> No.3949874

>>3949763

Merc:
Weapon: Insight Polearm
Body: Smoke > Stone/Duress > Treachery, make sure to use the ethereal bug
Helm: crafted blood helm

Sorc:
helm: Lore
Body: Stealth
Weapons: Spirit sword and shield
everything else fcr, you want 63 so you can tele without dying instantly

>> No.3949920

>>3949854
Merc has insight and some leech helm. I have spirit, lore, smoke, rhyme, magefist, random belt and boots, 10% fcr rings, 10% fcr + resistances crafted amulet.

>>3949874
Haven't found a decent eth armor yet, I need a ~600 def one, right? Also no shield for spirit yet. Are you sure about stealth? My resistances drop a lot with stealth over smoke.

>> No.3949975

>>3949920
any eth armor should work, just craft it and see how things roll. you don't need res to do kurast chest runs and meph moat trick

>> No.3950014

>>3949975
Every single time when I do the moat trick, the fucking council and night lords or some shit attack me. It's so infuriating.

>> No.3950016

>>3950014
you're doing it wrong then, if you do it right then you'll aggro nothing but mephisto

>> No.3950019

>>3950014
>the fucking council and night lords
why are you even pulling those

the whole point of moat troll is that you don't pull those

>> No.3950043

>>3950019
I'm not, they just come to me.

>> No.3950053

>>3950043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk2oEvX-Y3o
>25 second mark onward
is that what you're doing?

>> No.3950058

>>3950043
the whole point of moat troll is that they don't come to you

>> No.3950060

>>3950053
Yeah, but the council always spawn on the right side where he starts at.

>> No.3950061

>Diablo 1 isn't on Blizzard's store
For what reason

>> No.3950102

>>3950061
because it's "old"

>> No.3950106

>>3950102
Not him but Rock n Roll Racing and The Lost Vikings are older and they're at the store as free legacy games. It doesn't make sense.

>> No.3950113

>>3950106
Were those DOS games?

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Here's the general idea so far, I haven't done rotations so I don't have any DPS numbers to give.

any gear you want me to switch out for the fire side? the idea was to compare Tal&FCRasha setups for both builds.
>why not +8 into fire mastery instead of meteor route?
>8*7 vs 14*5

>> No.3950427

and incase anyone missed it >>3949526 Glacial Spike was par or out DPS'd blizzard, perhaps blizzball could be spikeball? I'll look more into it after the rotations are done.

>> No.3950443

>>3950420
Fark.. I missed the +1 on the vipermagi.. so pretend the Tal/FCRasha has the same damage.

I thought about switching back to Tals anyway and swap the chances for magefist, makes up the FCR with a smaller loss on MF (48mf).

>> No.3950462
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Last revision tonight, I'll tinker more later.

>> No.3950720

>>3949045
Yeah, farming Hell.

I can't play ladder after plugy. Tiny stash, muling shit, only 8 characters, waiting literally forever for DClone, bot infested wasteland. I miss trading but plugy is too comfy.

Make eth insight/obedience, make treachery, and put vampire gaze or guil face on merc. He is then ok and will die only because of some ridiculous crap such as conviction super speed phy immunes.

Level the field with fishymancer, just max lightning and put thundergods vigor to stand up to fucking black souls if you abhor casting fucking dim vis. Other than that, he can die only from bugged Viper in the Halls of Vaught and your own stupidity. I'm doing 400-500% mf runs without breaking the sweat.

>> No.3950996

>>3949713
Not retarded enough to play on EU.

>> No.3951326
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3951326

Finally... it dropped. Isenhart's Case!

>> No.3951527

>>3922801
What does the bottom text say?

>> No.3951580

>>3951527
the weak should fear the strong

>> No.3952005
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3952005

Hmmmm,
must review how blizzard applies damage
review blizzards cooldown timer becasue
>Once you get your timing right you can constantly cast spells even with a Casting Delay on one or both of them.
isn't really true in practice.

>> No.3952298

>>3943240

Pretty sure Zod, Tyrael's Might, and Mang Song's Lesson are the rarest items in the game. You can play for 10 years and never see them.

>> No.3952480
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3952480

looks like all the sorc skills that have a casting delay add an unavoidable 12 frame delay to other skills, you can move earlier but not cast.

>> No.3952614

>>3950996
>you choose where you are born

Kill yourself.

>> No.3952831
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3952831

Would you blizzard then ice bolt (5 times) until blizzard came back up or would you blizzard then cast ice bolt 4 times then hold blizzard until it casted etc?

>> No.3952835

>>3952831
incase you can't interpret, it's 3 blizzards & 18 ice blasts* versus 4 blizzards & 16 ice blasts in the same time span.
>haven't figured out blizzards damage yet so I don't even know yet

>> No.3953030
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3953030

If it's hitting for 4 times at the listed amount? it's looking competitive.

>> No.3953050

When is Blizzard going to sell Diablo, Warcraft and Warcraft 2 again? God, their best games (with Starctaft and Diablo 2) and they still dare keep us waiting.

>> No.3953175

>>3950462
ist oculus and magefists for blizzballer for 105 fcr

>> No.3953195

>>3953175
also, replace helm for shako, just need mf bonus from tal rasha set, nothing else.

>> No.3953203

>>3953175
>>3953195
Not him, but how do you get an occulus and a shako? Been farming all damn day for two days straight, only gotten garbage.

>> No.3953241

>>3953203
oculus is qlvl 50
shako is qlvl 58
which means that anywhere in hell they can drop both, and anywhere above NM chaos sanctum can drop both.
if you're looking to plan a boss run instead of clearing an area, then check out:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=24046916&f=87&p=140530460
for instance, NM mephisto is the perfect TC for shako and oculus.

>> No.3953252

>>3953241
Thanks bb. Brb getting a shako and an oculus.

>> No.3953254

>>3953252
if you're on single player, then you can potentially do a NM mephisto run every minute or less, if not then it really depends on what you can do in hell with your current gear.

>> No.3953256

>>3953203
as a former d2 rng-addict, the good drops are far in between.

I have gotten 2 Arachnid Mesh's on a fresh ladder within days, traded one of em for a Shako.. was a highlight. But really that's a kid who had 8hrs a day to grind back then.

>> No.3953260

>>3953256
in an ideal world, all you'd run is pindleskin, and maybe eldritch, if you're looking for unique and set items.
if you're looking for runes, you'd do only chaos sanctum, cows, or kurast chest runs, depending on your build.

>> No.3953284
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3953284

>>3953175
>>3953195
roger
>racking my brain on how to show what frame timelines look like in numbers atm, might be over engineering.

>>3953260
meph/pindle'd pre-uber, but h.meph was my addiction until maybe 1.11-2?
>grind other games
>guild wars, wow, medianxl, path of exile, d3.. trove.
cant play em as much as I'd like, without taking pain killers but since WoW I like to revisit their mechanics and find out how eveything compares numbers-wise.
I think the last time I visited a D2 /vr/ thread I rerolled for skillers to see what their chance was like since I had never done that much back then.

>> No.3953295

>>3953284
does meteor not do more damage for the blizzballer on mephisto?

>> No.3953310

>>3953260
>tfw literally took me around half an hour yesterday to clear chaos sanctum and kill diablo for the first time in hell
>didn't drop a single unique

Playing a sorc fucking sucks.

>> No.3953312

>>3953175
>>3953195
oh right, I was using tal's weapon and 3s to not put into fire mastery and gain the -15enmy fire res, I can move things around and.. >>3953295 I can swap the firebolt and meteor synergies to show what those numbers are.

>> No.3953320

>>3953310
if you're desperate you just do what this anon basically advocates>>3953284
unlock hell mephisto, and respec to pure blizzard. if you're down to the wire in terms of gear and gold, just do moat trick and equip your own insight or spam mana potions.
then after that, do a kurast chest run, and/or mausoleum/ancient tunnels, both of which are great for base items.

>> No.3953331

>>3953310
I only did h.meph as a sorc, I did other things with my wind druid.. never exclusively farmed for high runes.. only saw a Zod once while clearing to Baal.

>> No.3953341

>>3953295
>on mephisto
actually, this a-hole is more resistant than any of his brothers, andy has -50% fire resistance on all difficulties! never had imagined.

>> No.3953346

Blizzard really just needs to increase the high runes drop rates significantly, it couldn't really hurt them at this point. Make Zod like 0.5% drop rate and scale from there to the lower ones, current rate is ridiculous. Same with the other ultra rare uniques.

>> No.3953349

>>3953346
you have to do specific runs for them, i have never seen a high rune drop outside chaos sanctum, cows, and kurast chest runs and i've had around 20 lifetime drops.
the vast majority of those high runes were from kurast chest runs, which i'm quite certain are the most efficient way to farm high runes.

>> No.3953357

>>3953341
i used to do hell andy, until i realized it's largely a waste of time without a map hack and bugging her loot.

>> No.3953385

>>3923303

>Is version 1.13 ramped up in difficulty compared to 1.09?

1.10+ made the game way harder. Life and damage for all monsters was buffed across the board and it strongly tries to force you into synergies, making immunities a bitch. 1.09 was fairly easy to beat in comparison with the only real threat being MSLE. Just to note, 1.09 was back in the day when barbarians could easily beat hell with crafted magic weapons.

>Any good mods?

Depends on what you want out of a mod. ES, BFE and Zy-El are all pretty fun.

>> No.3953884

when is ladder reset again? you guys seem like you're actively playing now... Are you just trying to make Ladder runewords before becoming non-ladder?

>> No.3954104

>>3953349
Running Hell council in Travincal with a horking barbarian is the fastest way to find high runes but you need great equipment and they only drop up to Cham.

>> No.3954240

>>3954104
i wonder what compels anyone to make a barbarian these days, they're such a pain in the ass to start up

>> No.3954246

>>3954240
Yeah it's rough but I loved my wolfbarb

>> No.3954251

>>3953884
Next month, most likely. Could be any Tuesday.

>> No.3954328

>>3954251
are runewords still ladder specific?

>> No.3954337

>>3954328
can only be made on ladder, can be used elsewhere.

>> No.3954607

Anyone wanna carry me in hell a5 on EU? I'm struggling real bad.

>> No.3954691

so what's more active, East or West?

I'm right in the middle.

>> No.3954695

>>3954691
I don't know for sure, but Xtimus plays on east, so I'm assuming that's the better one.

>> No.3954701

>>3954695
>some namefag plays here

that doesn't help

>> No.3954714

>>3954701
>some namefag

He's a youtuber dumdum, and a good amount of people, including other youtubers and streamers follow him, so they play on east as well.

>> No.3954738

>>3954714
>wanting to watch other people play the same game

I'll never understand this.

>> No.3954742

>>3954738
Maybe if you watched one of his videos, you'd understand.

>> No.3954746

>>3954742
Sounds pretty shilly to me.

I'll just enjoy my game without e-celebrities.

>> No.3954754

>>3954746
You can do whatever you want, I'm just giving you a counter argument to your baseless opinion.

>> No.3954914

>green set items are the coolest
>they're bad

this makes childhood me, who ran around in full IK sad.

>> No.3954917

anyone else use to play/duel on open b.net?

>tfw a guy joins with WHITES ON
>oh shit

of course later people figured out shit and how to roll stats over so everyone just used clones that had negative stats on all their gear until it rolled over and they became unkillable gods. but the early days, man those were cool.

>still remember a dream of buying some editor program at the store that let me put gem sockets literally anywhere on the screen that I wanted
>it was easily able to create items that have that awesome tiny text because there's so many effects

oh, to be a kid again..

>> No.3955162

>>3954917
Yup, I was a hacked duelist on open bnet.. there was a ladder for brackets too.

Making ourselves phys immune or absorb, negative damage, loved the negatived speed.. I remeber using that bright orange editor and jeamma?s but currently using the hero editor for 1.11 to make the dps calculator

>> No.3955180

Is there a way to use my spirit shield on my siwtch as well, without having to craft a new one?

>> No.3955190
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finding out how meteors burning damage works, +to meteor seems to lengthen the timer on it just like real sunk skill points..

perhaps it doesn't matter as long as the fire is up long enough before the next meteor hits?

>> No.3955201

>>3954917
>>it was easily able to create items that have that awesome tiny text because there's so many effects
I remembered the issue with that was, your save file was so large you took much longer to load so I slimmed it down like those clones were to reduce load times.

>> No.3955217

>>3955190
greatest thing about meteor is that it doesn't depend on rng to hit a certain spot on the floor, and if i understand correctly, each fire aoe by the meteor does damage, so they stack the longer it takes to kill something standing still.

>> No.3955226

>>3955217
>so they stack the longer it takes to kill something standing still
I can test that, I stood still for andy to hit me and counted the blizzard hits in x0.25 real time on a recording. >>3953030

>> No.3955256 [SPOILER] 
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>it's dangerous to go alone! take this

>> No.3955275

>>3955256
>fire bolt damage 0-1
what happened

>> No.3955292
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3955292

>>3955275
there was two -50% fire skill small charms in my inventory, changed to -50&-49% to only do 1% damage with my lv 99 meteor.
>13 fire damage a second
>watch guy res his dudes at full health, monitor if their health drains faster with more fire around

>> No.3955316

>wait for fire to burn out
>killed all lil dudes at once
>waited for them to all res
>move lil dudes away from shaman
>double cast meteor near their shaman
>fire piles look identical
>walk into it
>lil dudes follow and hurting at different intervals standing in the fire

I'll double check with a single cast and see if double dipping happens, not sure why they didn't die at the same rate (besides the ones not standing in the fire)

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>>3955316
confirmed
>webm for ants to keep filesize down

>> No.3955359

>>3955348
keep in mind, I can cast dozens and have lil dudes die as fast as they're res'd so flames do stack plus, depending monster placement, lil dudes can be in hit multiple piles at once or none at all.

I am very curious how all those flames stack up.

>> No.3955360

>>3955359
dps-wise, with a legit build parameters*

>> No.3955361

>>3955360
blizzballer stronkest sorc

>> No.3955362

D2 Classic > LOD

>> No.3955367

>>3955362

Said no one ever

>> No.3955372
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yup, more double dipping here too.

>> No.3955760

I feel the meteor build can't be put into an 8 second window.

We have heavy 1 hitters like hammerdin, 4 second multi-hitters like blizzard, then meteor can be a smolder to a furnace over an even longer time... I'd have to change my simpler estimated dps from 0-to-8 seconds to middle-of-peak-dps-rotation to get a solid comparison however I do know speed is of concern so I might try to do both? I think I'll finish the 0-to-8 seconds for the blizzball/fcrblizzball comparison then figure out the peak dps later.

>> No.3956069

Last time i cast meteor I got yelled at and did indeed crash a game. But that was years ago; has it been fixed?

>> No.3956126

Never played Diablo 2 more than a couple of hours, but I did enjoy what I played. I've been meaning to get back into it for a while, should I find a build or just go in blind in that regard?

If should go with a build, can anyone recommend a sorceress?

>> No.3956367

Meteorb and blizzard are popular for resets. Blizzard is way more damage but only 1 element, so in hell you will be restricted in places you can go. You can reset your skills now using tokens or the den of evil quest reward.

huge builds sticky
forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73101306&f=87

>> No.3956545

>>3956367
i'd always recommend blizzballer instead of meteorb if you aren't going pure one element. frozen orb requires perfect placement to be good for bossing, and it takes much longer to get online

>> No.3956927

>tfw our boy Xtimus was dumb enough to show the password for one of his accounts on stream, and got his characters deleted

>> No.3957084

>>3956927
>our boy

what did you mean by this

>> No.3957489
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>decided to make <target> resistance changeable
>look up on breaking immunities again
>lower resist only spawns on daggers/wands on vendors
>only level 3 exists
>confirm it with h.akara without having to leave town once
glad to know it can spawn.. if you're above character level 94.
I'll be adding options for Conviction and lower res, just list Infinity is lv 12 and LR only gets up to lv 3.

>> No.3957493
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3957493

Anyone in here remember when anon made a /vg/ server some years ago?

>> No.3957536

>>3956927

how the fuck does that even happen? passwords are all asterisk'd. did he have it written down somewhere or something?

>> No.3957573

>>3957536
it was written on his d2jsp page apparently

>> No.3957601

>be fire/cold sorc
>get to ancients in hell
>fire, cold, and lighting immune

HELPPP

>> No.3957634

>>3957601
get ye sword

>> No.3957661

>>3957634
In English please?

>> No.3957670
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>>3957493
definitely not

>> No.3957676

>>3955190
What editor?

>> No.3957683

>>3957670
Two trannies were playing too.

>> No.3957696

>>3957676
it's called Hero Editor V0.96
>Last updated January 15, 2006
>works with V1.09D, V1.10, and V1.11b character files and Items
My D2CE USB drive installs a 1.12 copy and it had no issues with the character files.

>> No.3957698

>>3957696
Any reason you're not using Hero Editor 1.04?

>> No.3957704

>>3957683
What do you mean? I'm sure degenerates of all kinds like ourselves played on /v/net

>> No.3957709

>>3957704
It was the only video game community on 4chan I've seen that had actual trannies.

>> No.3957712

>>3957696
*my copy of D2 on a usb that was included in the Diablo 3 collectors edition box set
>has 1.0 and 1.07 discs too, but they're much slower
>>3957698
>Any reason you're not using Hero Editor 1.04?
I guess it worked for my version so I had no issues, 1.13 I guess is when it was needed. I didn't think there were balance patches but I do see some for 1.13c so I may have to recheck some numbers since the skill calculator I'm using may not be up to date.

>> No.3957745

>>3957601
use town portals to reroll their mods, each one will be Immune to one element.

you could break an immune by finding said lower resist wand..
>let's say a Lv 2 Lower Resist
>-37% but is only 20% efficient
>-7% to break a >/= 100 "immunity"
>Talic 110F resist, wont break
>Korlic 150C resist, wont break
>Madawc 100L resist, breaks, has 93% L resistance before your gears -enemy resists works

You'll have to party with other people to do it like a paladin with conviction or a necro with a higher level lower resist curse. My wind druid has no trouble due to they all only have 40% phys resist.

>> No.3957750

>>3957745
you could also make an Infinity Polearm for your merc
>-85% enemy resist due to lv 12 conviction
>really only -17% immunity breaker
so Madawc would resist lightning 83% and you could damage Talic for 7% of your damage now... if they don't get 'resistant' mods when you spawn them.
>Korlic still cold immune

>> No.3957759

>>3957750
>the cap is -150% enemy resist on conviction
>but it's only a -30% immunity breaker
>130 resist and up remain immune
>requires lower resist curse
>extra -12% of immunity breaking power at -60%
>142 resist and up remain immune

>> No.3957764

If you're running single player.. I think you can install sandboxie and run a sandboxed copy and play with yourself in LAN that way you could rush a paly or necro to help.

>> No.3957816

If you're running single player, you'll die somewhere in hell, never collect your corpse, and lose all your gear.

>> No.3957870

>>3957816
u wot mate?
>save&exit
>body is in town

I don't know if the 'stat requirement' thing is an issue when looting your corpse will inventory is full, vitabuilds always had that drawback.

>> No.3957872

>>3957870
What if you try getting your corpse and end up dying more times? No gear.

>> No.3957886

>>3957872
>died with gear on
>died elsewhere with no gear on
>save n exit
>open in other difficulty
>drop items to make room cuz my attributes suck
>pickup corpse and I get my first bodys gear back

how'd you lose your gear?>>3957872

>> No.3957891

>>3957886
I died 3 times, saved and remade the game, gear wasn't there.

>> No.3957927
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>wpn 1 has all the +stats
>leave no room to loot unequipable belt
>die on wpn 2 3 times
>save n exit
>click on corpse
>I am over burdened
>switch to wpn 1, it's equipped from corpse
>collect rest of corpse which was belt

they solved this some time ago, I thought you could have like 8-12? corposes or some shit.

>> No.3957929
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3957929

>all that xp loss
>the reason why I don't attempt to recover bodies in hell

>> No.3957942

I did read if you put on stuff that's worth more gold, that stuff overrides whatever was on the first body when you save&exit. so if you retrieve, do it naked and either kite or bait mobs away from the original.

>> No.3957989

>>3957929
Why are your shield and weapon ethereal? Won't they break? The shield especially, when you block attacks from getting hit while tping.

>> No.3958027

>>3957989
for giggles >>3955190 to test game mechanics with.

>> No.3959587
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3959587

I can't kill the ancients in hell. ;_;

>> No.3959593

>>3959587
why not

>> No.3959594

>>3959593
They have all the immunities and one shot me. I have literally 0 gold for pots or to revive my merc now.

>> No.3959596

>>3959594
You can reroll their immunities by spamming TPs.

>> No.3959598

>>3959596
It's not working.

>> No.3959603

>Ancients are hard
https://youtu.be/Uciv_sm5D2w?t=20m40s

>> No.3959618

>>3919000
Non-expansion really is a breath of fresh air. My recent hardcore characters have been non-expansion for pretty much all the reasons you listed. It's fun to just play the game for a change.

>> No.3959635

>>3959618
How's the non-expansion activity on reset? I'm actually scared it will be the first reset where I don't get to lightly leech for 88 levels.

>> No.3959668

>>3959603
Want me to stream it for you? Literally impossible to solo them with my current setup, I've been trying for two days.

>> No.3959828

>>3959635
people do normal-nm on non-expansion then switch to expansion in hell

>> No.3959831

>>3959828
Why? I didn't even know you could convert non expansion characters.

>> No.3959893

>>3959828
Switching mid ladder isn't something I've ever thought of once, that's interesting... that explains why people hype up ladder resets so much yet the lobby list isn't quite indicative as much as I'd hoped (other than private games).

>> No.3960234

Guys I killed the ancients. 8)

>> No.3960287

>>3918339

here are some tips for beginners (ie. literally never played before)


>attributes
-energy is a dump stat. generally you should never put points into it. your mana will come from potions and, later on, your gear
-strength and dexterity should only be high enough to use your gear. therefore, generally, your str/dex stats should be playing catch-up to the new gear you keep finding.
-the vast majority of your points go into vitality to keep your ass alive while you spam right mouse click

>skills
-focus on maxing one skill at a time. pick a good skill and pour points into it and you will be much better off.
-certain skills are just plain garbage and should never be used. a quick google can save you from wasting your skill points.
-eventually you'll want to focus your points into 2 or 3 key skills that you will use. you'll want to max these skills out. other points will be used for pre-requisites and synergies (skills that give bonuses to your main skills)

>gear
-early on, you're mainly looking for uniques or rares to fill up your equip slots, but it doesn't really matter.
-a good socketed item filled with a few gems can make you overpowered in the early game. -your main concern should be amassing gold so that you can buy decent items with + to skills when you see them pop up at the various merchants. for example finding a good staff with +3 to fireball at a merchant can do enough to carry a sorceress well into nightmare difficulty.
-look up good low level runewords to give your new character a boost.
-when looking for rings and amulets, % chance of finding magic items and % faster cast rate are some good modifiers to look out for. rings and ammys that increase resistance are also useful.

>> No.3960290

How the fuck do quest drops work? I just killed hell ball for the first time and got only yellows and blues. Same with fucking Andariel and Duriel. Aren't you supposed to get a guaranteed unique or set item?

>> No.3960304

>>3960290
Sure you weren't thinking of Diablo III?

>> No.3960319

>>3960290
well on d2jsp they said the chances were dropped in half as an example for say.. joining a completed <act boss> game you need to complete yourself.

not that is it guaranteed. I didn't know about this stuff either, but in '08 I wasn't playing anymore.

>> No.3960321

>>3960290

no. there's no guarantees.

>> No.3960330

>>3960321
>>3960319
>>3960304
Then why does the Andariel quest bug exist?

>> No.3960331

>>3960330
beeg tiddies

>> No.3960336

I cleared all acts in all difficulties, and now I don't know what to do.

>> No.3960340

>>3960336
pvp

>> No.3960343

>>3960340
I don't like pvp in diablo.

>> No.3960345

>>3960343
trade jewing for money

>> No.3960363

>>3960336
Start over and do it in hardcore, move up the ladder, check who died, laugh at them.

>> No.3960380

>>3960330
Don't know why the Andy specific bug exists while the other bosses don't have the same behavior.

May have been a miscommunication when I said chances were halved, I meant the odds were halved, so instead of 1:3813 for an SoJ it's 1:1509.

>my only legit soj drop was from a fallen guarding wirts leg

>> No.3960385

DESU I don't know what else is worth farming in NM to fill your time before temp bans happen from too many server joins with a fireball sorc.

>> No.3960404
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oh I do still have some screens on my HDD..
>guided arrow, enchantress wearing a dream
>jewelers armor of the whale with IAS jewels
>wiz spike and switch to tele with

I'll have to rebuild that too in the dps calc

>> No.3960417
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>pindle drops a GF on your MF necro (lol?)

>> No.3960464

Is iceblink good for anything?

>> No.3960621
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think I got something that will be straight forward to edit
>immunity interactions integrated
>conviction level calculations are right
>lower resist isn't, will have to make a table to match for value later... no one groups with a necro anyway

>> No.3960996

>>3951527
German: "Strictly limited edition!"

>> No.3962257
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3962257

>tfw waiting for ladder to reset

it's unbearable lads

>> No.3962469

>>3962257
>tfw don't want it to reset because of how hard to get runes for hoto, cta, infinity, and fortitude will be

>> No.3962505

>>3962257
Literally the worst fucking time of the year
>feel the itch
>really badly
>log in to check ladder rankings
>make a new char to scratch the itch
>but there's 1 other person in lobby
>literally just me, a chantress, and 2 other fuckos
>log off

>> No.3962570

>>3962505

yeah its the worst. just wanna play so bad but there's literally no point because i'll just move on to another character in a couple weeks

>> No.3962595

>doing skeleton lair with a maggot necromancer

>> No.3962631

What would be the cheapest and the most versatile farming build for hell?

>> No.3962638

>>3962631
Summons necro can be run on pretty much no gear whatsoever.

>> No.3962687

>there's a ladder reset soon
Are poison amazons good in any capacity? I've never played one before and thinking about starting one up

>> No.3962694

>>3962687
what the fuck is a poison amazon. amazons don't have poison. they have lightning bow skills and lightning javel skills. did you mean javazon?

>> No.3962729

>>3962694
Try playing the game, shitposter-kun
http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Poison_Javelin

>> No.3962737

>>3962729
>everyone who disagrees with me is shitposting, literally only because i said so, my word is law, obey me, i am god, i am god, i am god
>everyone who disagrees with me is kun, literally just literally only and literally because i said so, and my word is law, i am god, obey me, i am the god here now, i am law, i am god

Nobody uses the poison skills as a zon you dumb cunt.

>> No.3962781

>>3962737
All you had to say, fucktard. Don't have to sperg out
>HURR WHAT DA FUCK IS A POISON AMAZON DAT DONT EXISTS!!11

>> No.3962802

>>3962781
>everyone who disagrees with me is autism because i said so i am the law i am the law i am the law i am the law i am the law

poison don't real

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>>3962802
didnt read your crypost

>> No.3962829
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3962829

I think I'll average the steady and peak sample seconds for an est. sustained dps

perhaps just list how long in a rotation it takes to reach peak dps?

>> No.3962831

>>3962828
posion don't real, kike. fuck off and die in a bus fire.

>> No.3962837

Is Blaze a useful skill ever?

>> No.3962839

>>3962631
naked sorc can do kurast chest runs, which is what all the bots do at the start of the ladder to build enigma

>> No.3962841

>>3962837
Firewall goes well with it

>> No.3962842

>>3962829
i admire your dedication to figuring this out

>> No.3962876
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3962876

>>3962842
I think a major bit of fog is clearing and I just have to copy/paste and figure out rotations now.

I think this layout has more breathing room for the damage section

>> No.3962891

>>3962831
poison on amazon is fine fucktard

>> No.3962892

>>3962891
no it not

>> No.3962903

>xyz build is fine
debate-able, no one thing is great at everything.

for example skele-mancer is the greatest at being a waste of your time.

>> No.3962948

>>3962892
why?

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3962953

>>3962694
>amazons don't have poison
Was /vr/ a mistake?

>> No.3962957

>>3962948
const lightning& = more damage

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>>3962837

>> No.3962962

>>3962957
what's wrong with taking it as a secondary skill though

>> No.3962964

>>3962687

poison is good until about mid-nightmare, then you'll probably want to switch. the damage just isn't high enough to take it much farther than that. it is very good early on though.

>> No.3962992
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3962992

going to audit my skill damage numbers in game
>current base numbers from an old skill calc
>reference my own table of base numbers instead

>> No.3962994

>>3962839
>tp
>get hit by mana drain
>die

Sure thing bro. ;_;

>> No.3962996

>>3962994
they use packets to fake max FCR and FHR

>> No.3962997

>>3962964
Is lightning fury pretty much the end all skill for javazon then?

>> No.3963003
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3963003

>didn't hook up fire mastery right
was missing it's +skills calculation

>> No.3963040

>>3962997

lightning fury, charged strike, freezing arrow, strafe and multiple shot are all viable on hell depending on your gear

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>> No.3963215
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3963215

>> No.3963223
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3963223

this is meph >>3963207 and pic related is andy

>> No.3963246

>>3963223
>>3963215
>>3963207
nevermind these, fucking +skills on tals belt? all invalid now

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3963329

Huh, guess even a decked out h.din wasn't as good as I had thought.

>> No.3963340

>tfw anon is talking to himself and nobody knows what his charts mean

>> No.3963346
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3963346

>>3963340
See the part where Target dead is? that's the total time in seconds, lower is better.

>> No.3963363
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3963363

I'd hope anyone who's played a modern game has come across rotations by now

>> No.3963371

>>3963346
It hurts me to see nobody replying to your research, but I genuinely don't get what the point is.

>> No.3963398

Guys, if you happen to be programmers or artists of any sort, please help the Freeablo project, that aims to create a multiplatform engine port for Diablo 1. The project is currently cooperating with the folks from the Diablo HD mod and will have its source adapted, so you'll literally get the best of both projects.

https://freeablo.org/

>> No.3963404

>>3963398
Shoo, shill.

>> No.3963583

>>3963398
Why not just play D1 HD

>> No.3963690

>Perfect Gem Activated

>> No.3963935

pls can someone make a diablo 1/2 general pastebin? I'd love to have a place where we could post nicknames, friend lists, servers and channel names pls.
What about making an official /vr/Diablo2 channel name? Does "vrdiablo" sounds good? Is USA East Coast realm ok?

>> No.3964167

>>3963935
All you need to do is make a new thread on the day of May reset and tell everyone to join the same channel name, which you are suggesting. I forgot if there was a Steam group, but I'm just saying any extra fluff like that is unneeded and useless. The only thing the OP would need to include is how to use the Glide wrapper.

>> No.3964179

Why do my friends hate me?

>try to set up a Fantasy Football league
>nobody joins
>try to set up a Diablo 2 Ladder Reset team
>nobody joins
>Get an Xbox One
>they get PS4

>> No.3964221

>>3963371
D2 is from a time before we had damage calculating/logging addon's and I never built a hammerdin on ladder myself so I wanted to see what I missed out on.

All I had back then was a feeling that 'this feels faster maybe?' when switching out equipment or builds.

For the guy asking about the blizzball build, I was showing how a level 1 ice blast and a max level fire ball compared when taking a targets resistance and -enemy resisntance/mastery into account. Even when taking 10 out of cold mastery and putting it into fireballs synergies >>3963215

If you saw 734-772 and 4541-4916 on the stats screen.. would you have guessed they were so closely tied?

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3964265

>>3964179
>Get an Xbox One
>they get PS4

>> No.3964614
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>> No.3965223

>>3963346
meteor when

>> No.3965246

>>3965223
full on meteor or mf-centric? Haven't looked into how the flames apply their damage yet

I know in diablo 2s past Reduce Damage by... used to nullify quick small hits like Diablos lightningflame thrower.

>> No.3965253

>>3963404
>shill
>for something free

I don't get it.

>> No.3965254

>>3965246
meteor burn is the primary damage dealer once you get enough +skill

>> No.3965259

>>3965246
it'd be the same build as the fcblizzballer, which doesn't use blizzard unless a mob is fire immune

>> No.3965297

>>3965259
>>3965254
I'll add onto the blizzballer then. wikia, skill calcs and game don't mention how meteors burn length works, I guess it's 1 second for every skill level but I haven't confirmed it.

>blaze increases burn length by 3%! but wont tell you how long it was without synergies.

>> No.3965337

it was on d2jps
>duration frames = 14+(15*slvl)

>> No.3965439

>>3963935
>tfw European and don't have anyone to play with

;_;

>> No.3965447

>>3965439

just change your gateway my dude

>> No.3965465

>>3965439
you can get low latency on US East pretty easily, just have to tinker around.

>> No.3965467

>>3965447
>>3965465
I get around 160 no matter what.

>> No.3965472

>>3965467
Try Leatrix Latency Fix and lowering your mtu settings

>> No.3965489

>>3965472
>third party software

Oh boy I can't wait for things to go horribly wrong.

>> No.3965493

>>3965489
works for me

>> No.3965539
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3965539

>> No.3965542
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3965542

the red eyes that follow

just noticed that after an embarrassingly long amount of time

>> No.3965553

>>3965539
>>3965542
Come on bro, people have been talking about this on forums and making hundreds of "top 10 diablo 2 secrets" and shit for years.

Also, how do you play a summon necro? I just started leveling one and my skellies are so damn slow to kill shit. I got 5 skellies, 1 golem, weaken, and corpse explosion, and the rest in skele mastery. Weak as shit.

>> No.3965563

>>3965553
google fishymancer

>> No.3965570

>>3965563
Well shit, I don't have any of the gear required. Had frostburns and lost them trying to mule.

>> No.3965571
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3965571

hmm this and >>3963329 have some discrepancies on fire ball damage
>516 to 561 base damage
>(24*.14) synergies, 336%
>fire mastery, 163%, 163+336, 499%
>base damage + 499%, 3090 to 3360
>in game it's 5922 to 6438
>516+(516*x)=5922 in wolframalpha
>1047.6%
fire is calculated weird and I have it wrong somehow.

>> No.3965580

>>3965570
amp damage and decrep are pretty much essential

>> No.3965589

>>3965580
Yeah, but I'm lvl 15 still.

>> No.3965594

>>3965571
oh, I figured it out..
>(base damage + synergie%) + fire mastery
so this is like one of those '% MORE' moments in path of exile, it's not regular enhanced damage increase, it's a % more total.

>> No.3965595

>>3965589
get
amp damage

get
de crep

>> No.3965597

>change gateway to US East
>create new account
>still logs me into Europe
>can't change it from the character screen

Fuck.

>> No.3965608

>>3965553
I avoid top ten lists like the fucking plague.

Anyway while leveling a summoner keep the raise skeleton at 3x the mastery for best results. I throw everything into raise + mastery except 1 for amp, clay, terror and decrepify. Max raise skeleton, then the mastery, then corpse explosion. I use terror for getting through doorways but it's an optional skill.

There's no gear "required." Probably the only class that could win hell naked.

>> No.3965613

Anyone know how to create a classic account for a different regoin? I change my gateway to a different one, but then when I create an account, it automatically creates one for my default region.

>> No.3965702

>>3965597

download bnet gateway editor, change to US east

problem solved

>> No.3965725

>>3965702
Thanks. And holy shit is EU and US different. Right now on US there are cow games, free rushes, and all sorts of other shit. EU game names are either advertising, bots, or trade games. How depressing.

>> No.3965728

>>3965613
see
>>3965702

>> No.3965854

>>3965553
https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/fishymancer-final-version-updated-for-1-13.798047/

follow the skill progress and you can't fail.

>>3965589
amp is literally level 1 skill. get it first. decrep is only for bosses.

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3965859

>>3965553
>>3965854

also, skellies are meatshields later on, your modus operandi is get a merc to do first kill, and then chain react CE

amen

>> No.3965863

>>3965859
Thanks, but then why put points into dex for the block, if you wont get hit?

>> No.3965875

>>3965863
Summoner has to be behind, he rarely rarely gets hit unless it's a freak accident of attacks going through the summons and merc. But he is fragile as fuck so it doesn't hurt to invest in some dex. I save dex until I get a good shield, so somewhere in late nightmare/hell

>> No.3965907

Do you guys think the game is playable at 200-300 ping?

>> No.3965957

>>3965907
200? yes

300? no

>> No.3966712

>>3965907
depends on whether other people are in your game

>> No.3967940

>page 9

Anyone up for making a US East community, or do you wanna wait until the ladder reset?

>> No.3967950

>>3967940

almost no point til reset

>> No.3967958

if I make a new lad right now, how far can I expect to make it before the reset? 85? 90? 95?

>> No.3967964

Why not just play Diablo 1 HD?

>> No.3967965

>>3967958
Well you have 20 days, so you'll make it pretty damn far if you play a lot.

>> No.3968104

>>3967958
As far as your heart desires

>> No.3968127

>>3918339
They should make D2 free like they did with SC1.

>> No.3968135

Can you play Diablo 2 on a pirated copy if it's a private server? I have a legit copy but none of my friends do, so I was wondering if it's possible if I host the server myself.

>> No.3968153

>>3968135
Yeah you just can't connect to official b.net games.

>> No.3968158

>>3968153
Cool, thanks.

>> No.3968159

>>3968127
They will once the remaster comes out.

>> No.3968171

>>3968135
Whatever you do just don't play slash diablo. It's all sorts of fucked.

>> No.3968186

>>3968171
What's wrong with it?

>> No.3968191

>>3968186
The registry keys and the mods they provide will fuck your PC up, and your game will run like asshole.

>> No.3968198

>>3968171
>>3968191
Actually looking at it now, what exactly is the point of this server? Everything is almost identical to the vanilla game. Is it just a circlejerking server or what?

>> No.3968218

>>3968198
They allow maphack, and don't allow bots. But everything runs like shit, and it's a reddit server with reddit rules.

>> No.3968353

What should I farm in hell for gear, besides Andariel and Mephisto, if I'm weak as shit, and can't do Baal or chaos runs properly?

>> No.3968376 [DELETED] 

>>3921265
t. kid born in 1999

>> No.3968384

>>3968376
>replying to a joke post from 20 days and 15 hours ago

Come bro, like come on man. What are you doing?

>> No.3968460

>bee noob at class
>find a streamer that plays my class
>15 viewers
>ask question
>still get ignored

;_;

>> No.3968704

>>3968353
The Pit and Cow Level.

Btw, is there a list of items that Hell Diablo can't drop? Or list for every boss and area, and items that can drop there?

>> No.3968795 [DELETED] 

>>3968384
>HOW DARE YOU REPLY TO A POST MORE THAN 5 MINUTES OLD REEEEEEEE

Fuck off, you braindead millennial kike.

>> No.3968889 [DELETED] 

>>3968795
Kill yourself redditor cancer.

>> No.3969054

>>3968704

every item has an "item level". its not listed in game. in the same way, every monster has a "monster level". certain level monsters drop certain level items. that's pretty much the gist of drop mechanics in d2. look up what you need on the wiki and start hunting

>> No.3969219
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3969219

What to build? Enigma, CoH, Infinity?

>> No.3969379

>>3969219
good luck finding/crafting a superior mage plate

>> No.3969880

new bread?

>> No.3969903 [SPOILER] 
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>> No.3969990

>>3969903
cows is the only place a javason shines

>> No.3970072 [DELETED] 

>>3968889
>everyone who disagrees with me is reddit JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO EEEEEEEE

Die in a bus fire, you degenerate SJW millennial retard jewkike.

>> No.3970084
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looks like Meteor theoretically stacks up to 17 times for 24 frames then off for 11 frames then on again..

>1362 to 1427, say 1394
>a second is 25 frames
>1394 / 25, say 55 damage per frame
>55 damage x 17 stacks, 935 damage per frame
>55 damage x 16 stacks, 880 damage per frame
>(935 x 24) + (880 x 11), 22,440 + 9680, 32,120 damage in 32 frames
>(32120 / 32 frames), 1,003.75 x 25 frames
>say 25,093 DPS before resistances

>> No.3970091

>>3970084
>32,120 damage in 32 frames
meant 35 frames...
>(32120 / 35 frames), 917 x 25 frames
>say 22,925 DPS before resistances

my bad.

>> No.3970107
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3970107

>it's a summoner is in the absolute last corner episode

>> No.3970108

>if each impact takes 66 frames
>66 x 17 stacks, 1,122 frames
>1,122 / 25, roughly 45 seconds until sustained DPS can be achieved

>> No.3970119

>>3970107
there's a way to tell where he is based on the first section you see of each pathway, don't remember the specifics though

>> No.3970131

>>3970108
did you already take this into account for blizzard?

>> No.3970136

>>3970108
also with fireball in between meteor casts there's no way blizzard iceblast beats that

>> No.3970138
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>>3970131
>>3970136
blizzard / ice blast at sustained DPS before the second impact happens.

>> No.3970150

>>3970131
>>3970136
wait, it's 66 frames THEN 35 frames between so...
>(35*17)+66, 626 frames

roughly 25 seconds until sustained dps.

>> No.3970171

>(2) ~6,113dmg fireballs
>(1)13,690dmg meteor impact
>32,120dmg burn
>58,036 / 35, 1658 dmg per frame
>1658 * 25, 41,450 averaged damage per second
>before resistance

>> No.3970239

so technically with this setup
>10.5K dps cold damage
>16.6K dps fire damage
>at their peaks

now we're all aware not every single ice blast will land, especially compared the fire balls larger(?) hitbox

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3970242

>>3970239
>forgets image

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3970261

>>3970171
>>3970242
>fire needs an infinity merc
>damage goes from 16.6K dps to 45.6K dps
>cold stays the same

>> No.3970570

>>3970261
infinity blizzball new meta

>> No.3970727 [DELETED] 

>>3970072
Calm down autistic redditor trash.

>> No.3970730 [DELETED] 

>>3970727
>using the autism meme that was invented by the brit manlet cuck tripfag manly_tears on /v/ in 2009

>everyone who disagrees with me is reddit JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO EEEEEEEE

Die in a river, millennio-liberoidal KIKE

>> No.3970740 [DELETED] 

>>3970730
>being this mad

Holy shit lmao, take your medicine.

>> No.3970742 [DELETED] 

>>3970740
>using the mad meme literally also invented on /v/

>everyone who disagrees with me is medicine JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO EEEEEEEE

typical braindead libcuck millennialoid response. Go die in a river fire.

>> No.3970747 [DELETED] 

>>3970742
Go away assmad diablo 3 player.

>> No.3970749 [DELETED] 

>>3970747
>literally still using the /v/-invented mad meme

>everyone who disagrees with me is d3 JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO EEEEEEEE

Kill yourself, neo-blizzard KIKE, SHILL, DRONE, you CTR shekel FAGGOT KIKE

>> No.3970752

last 6 slots boys, hold onto your butts

>> No.3970758 [DELETED] 

>>3970749
>mad "meme"
>invented on /v/

I remember my first week on 4chan too.

>> No.3970759

>>3969379
So, an Enigma?

Why a Superior Mage Plate and not AP or DS?

>> No.3970764 [DELETED] 

>>3970758
>I remember my first week on 4chan too

of course you do, because it was THIS WEEK, you LIBKIKE cuckold FAGGOT

>> No.3970765

>>3970759
if you die with an enigma that isn't a mage plate, and you've reset your stats with strength bug to min/max as much hp/energy out of your build, then when you die and go to pick up your corpse, you need enough strength charms in your inventory to equip the chest first, otherwise it falls on the floor

>> No.3970769 [DELETED] 

>>3970764
Keep replying underage autismo.

>> No.3970771 [DELETED] 

>>3970769
>using the autism meme that was invented by the brit manlet cuck tripfag manly_tears on /v/ in 2009

>everyone who disagrees with me is underage JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO EEEEEEEE

the only underage here is YOU

you JEW KIKE, clinton SHILL

>> No.3970787 [DELETED] 

>>3970785
see >>3970771

>> No.3970792 [DELETED] 

>>3970787
see >>3970785

>> No.3970797 [DELETED] 

>>3970792
see >>3970787

>> No.3970798 [DELETED] 

>>3970797
Thanks for the free replies.

>> No.3970805 [DELETED] 

>>3970798
see >>3968795

>> No.3970808 [DELETED] 

>>3970805
Nothing there, newfag.

>> No.3970810

>>3970765
What if I don't change the stats?

>> No.3970813 [DELETED] 

>>3970808
see >>3970771

>> No.3970814 [DELETED] 

>>3970813
I'm sorry for your severe autism.

>> No.3970815

>>3970810
then you have nothing to worry about, i prefer a few hundred more hp than more armor after 10k

>> No.3970818 [DELETED] 

>>3970814
see >>3970730

>> No.3970819

>>3970810
you definitely want to get a reinforced version of whatever plate you're using though, it's a pretty big difference in end result defense, especially with archon plate

>> No.3970830

>>3970815
>>3970819
Damn, and I hoarded white shrouds, mage plates, and archon plates for nothing.

I think I saw only few superiors, either 1os or ethereal.

The search continues...

>> No.3970832

>>3970830
if you're single player then it doesn't matter as much, but it sure is gratifying to get one of those super rare, near perfect enigmas

>> No.3970842 [DELETED] 

>>3970818
>linking to non existing posts

Cute autistic newfaggot.

>> No.3970843 [DELETED] 

>>3970842
see >>3970730

>> No.3970846 [DELETED] 

>>3970843
Keep giving me you's, little autismo.

>> No.3970849

>>3970832
Well yeah. I'll probably wait, I have the Puzzler and it's easy to repair the charges with MF summoner, so I don't really need Teleport that much. But who knows, I'll probably lose patience in a week and stuck it inside a ds or ap and be done with it.

>> No.3970850 [DELETED] 

>>3970846
>using the you meme that was invented on /s4s/

>STILL using the autism meme that was invented by the brit manlet cuck tripfag manly_tears on /v/ in 2009

Kill yourself, liberal kike.

>> No.3970852 [DELETED] 

>>3970850
Good boy.

>> No.3970853 [DELETED] 

kill yourself, kike

>> No.3970857

where are the mods

>> No.3970859

>>3970857
It's ok, the little autist gave up already.

>> No.3970863 [DELETED] 

KILL yourself, /v/-memer KIKE

>> No.3970896

Which came first

BOTD

or EBOTD

>> No.3970904

@3970859

KILL yourself, /v/-memer KIKE

>> No.3970907

>needing 40 minutes just to embarrass yourself again

lmao

>> No.3970913

>being a KIKE

>a KIKE

>> No.3970914

>making autism fueled posts in threads about games you've never played

>> No.3970916

>using /v/-invented memes like a KIKE

>a KIKE

>> No.3970919

>describing your existence as a meme

Truly sad.

>> No.3970920

>being a KIKE

>a KIKE

the worst

>> No.3970984

all KIKES should be KILLED

>> No.3970989

All autists should take their medicine.

>> No.3970990

all idiot /v/-memer KIKES should be KILLED and BANNED

WHERE are the mods