ECCO

[Anonymous No.3913454]

Redpill me on Ecco the Dolphin, /vr/.

Legitimately one of the most insane but absolutely brilliant games I've ever heard of.

>aliens
>time travel
>ancient beings as old as the ocean
>flying future dolphins

Where did this insanity come from?

Also if emulation isn't an option for me what's the best way to play?

[Anonymous No.3913460]

>>3913454
>Redpill me on Ecco the Dolphin, /vr/.

You are a dolphin and you have to do flips and shit.

[Anonymous No.3913461]

>>3913454
>John C. Lilly + Pink Floyd = Ecco the Dolphin

[Anonymous No.3913468]

>>3913461
>John C. Lilly

Isn't he the "scientist" that was whacked out on LSD all the time and lived with dolphins in a lab?

[Anonymous No.3913476]

>>3913460
BUT THAT'S NOT IT!

[Anonymous No.3913480]

>>3913461
>Pink Floyd

One of the final levels in Ecco is even named after a Pink Floyd song...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lt-udg9zQSE

[Anonymous No.3913486]

>>3913468
>John C. Lilly
>Scientist doped up on LSD

That's the guy.

[Anonymous No.3913487]

Sega genesis obv
Its dirt cheap

[Anonymous No.3913496]

>>3913480
Sweet!

BRB.
Gonna play some Ecco the Dolphin while listening to Dark Side of the Moon.

[Anonymous No.3913517]

>>3913496
>Breathe, breathe in the air.
>Don't be afraid to care.
>Leave but don't leave me.
>Look around and choose your own ground.

>Long you live and high you fly
>And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
>And all you touch and all you see
>Is all your life will ever be.

>Run, rabbit run.
>Dig that hole, forget the sun,
>And when at last the work is done
>Don't sit down it's time to dig another one.

>For long you live and high you fly
>But only if you ride the tide
>And balanced on the biggest wave
>You race towards an early grave.

[Anonymous No.3913532]

The Sega CD soundtrack is the most beautiful music known to man and should be part of the knowledge capsule we blast into space to introduce ourselves to alien races.

[Anonymous No.3913541]

>>3913454
>Also if emulation isn't an option for me what's the best way to play?

For the first game, 3DS by far. But any is good other than GBA. For ToT the Genesis collections are decent, otherwise cart.

[Anonymous No.3913561]

such a brave little dolphin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYDFFe8uuf8

the game is hard as balls btw

[Anonymous No.3913565]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJQzxFPO6II&list=PL17AA9A1AB8A41F34&index=10
love this track

[Anonymous No.3913605]

>>3913468
you forgot the ketamine

also the dolphins were on acid too

[Anonymous No.3913689]

>>3913532
They will try the game and nuke us with frustration.
But yeah it's awesome I love the MegaCD version so much.

If only I could grab one day that collector box of the game. but never found it.

[Anonymous No.3913695]

This was the coolest game to have on my genesis as a kid. Of course I never beat the game though, it was just way too tough. I'll have to beat it someday soon as an adult.

[Anonymous No.3913705]

>>3913532
I never played the Sega CD version

Is it legitimately better, or personal preference?

[Anonymous No.3913714]

>>3913605
Far out man!

Now that's the kind of wavy-gravy scientific research I can get behind!

[Anonymous No.3913716]

>>3913605 #
Far out man!

Now that's the kind of groovy scientific research I can get behind!

[Anonymous No.3913718]

>>3913705
The Sega CD version has more levels and different music.

Try it and see if you like it.

[Anonymous No.3913725]

>>3913718
Not the first game. The first game improved music to a CD level and sfx like animals cries (like we need that to feel even more pitiful) But the game stay the same.

Tide of time have new levels and also included fmv and an even more gorgeous soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.3913728]

>>3913716
This image makes me sad. Drugged up Hippies should never get involved with scientific research. See Bill Nye for example.

[Anonymous No.3913737]

>>3913725
Honestly. In the Sega CD version of Ecco the Dolphin there is a different music score and additional levels.

Here's a list of the changes made in Ecco CD...

>NEW LEVELS
>Open Ocean 2
>Volcanic Reef
>Ship Grave Sea
>The Sea of Silence
>Wreck Trap
>Deep Gate

>Ecco CD uses Redbook quality audio instead of the Mega Drive's sound processor for CD quality music.

>Ecco CD uses higher quality sound samples than the Mega Drive.

>Ecco CD uses Q-Sound technology, creating a surround sound effect from 2 speakers as opposed to the ordinary stereo sound of the Mega Drive.

>Passwords for Ecco CD are not compatible with Mega Drive Ecco.

>In the Library, two Glyphs feature FMV footage of dolphins. In the Mega Drive version, Glyphs were repeated.

>Trilobites and Sea Horses are easier to evade in Ecco CD than the Mega Drive game.

>In Ecco CD, when Ecco dies he returns to the last Barrier Glyph he removed.

>The 'A and Start' cheat for Ecco Mega Drive does not work on the Mega CD.

>Various Glitches and Bugs from the Mega Drive game are not present in Ecco CD

[Anonymous No.3913747]

>>3913737

My bad then and thanks for taking time to give more infos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_LKRBP69ag

[Anonymous No.3913767]

>>3913725
I prefer the original genesis music because of how creepy and robotic the fm synth sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqMuvFEKCOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJhTNfZ56-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0UPcC3muvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SvPrdKSZd0
Although Spencer Nilsen did make some very comfy music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T9EzdVFCbY
Tim Follin was the best Ecco composer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72J5FPCXSL4

[Anonymous No.3913791]

>>3913461
>>3913480
>>3913486
far out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loFng2WrfgA

[Anonymous No.3913796]

Barron loves Ecco

[Anonymous No.3913826]

>>3913767
ECCO Defender of the Future was not a great game.

But the soundtrack was fantastic.

[Anonymous No.3913838]

>>3913826
What was not so great about it ?

I love it personally. It a game that trigger some strange emotions. like claustrophobia when I am not claustrophobic. It hard and challenging. With awesome Easter eggs to the others episodes of the series. And man that crazy plot and intro is Barbarella intro level. You can sell the game to anyone with just that.

[Anonymous No.3913841]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHXmmzfNREY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reJmI6x_fVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UgJrKFOdss
we are all going to become bio-computers

[Anonymous No.3913853]

>>3913838
I meant that Defender of the Future is not ad great as Ecco the Dolphin or Tides of Time.

They're all good games. I just greatly prefer the first two.

[Anonymous No.3913858]

>>3913841
>E.C.C.O.
>Earth Coincidence Control Office

Oh yeah! I forgot that even the name 'Ecco' came from John C. Lilly.

I have to read his books at some point.

[Anonymous No.3913868]

>>3913517
When you're playing Ecco, swimming beneath the waves, don't forget to surface and breathe in the air!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVu9vF5J3Y

[Anonymous No.3913875]

>>3913841
At least he was against the whaling dolphin meat industry.
We already are bio-computers. Jewgle will implant chips into our brains to control our minds.

[Anonymous No.3913893]

>>3913705
I actually like the Genesis music a little better, but they're both great.

In general I think it's difficulty is overstated. Aside from a few points neither of them is super hard, they just take a different kind of patience under pressure than most games and mastering the control scheme takes some practice.

[Anonymous No.3913895]

>>3913725
Sega CD version of Ecco 1 also has new levels.
And FMVs of real life dolphins

[Anonymous No.3913923]

>>3913895
See
>>3913737

[Anonymous No.3913926]

sega cd version sounds beautiful, but genesis version nails the spooky atmosphere perfectly.
i recommend the genesis versions for anyone new to ecco.

[Anonymous No.3914071]

Grooviest thread on /vr/ right now.

[Anonymous No.3914081]

>>3913605
DID THE DOLPHINS FUCK HIM

DID HE FUCK THE DOLPHINS

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ESSAYS OR ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

[Anonymous No.3914112]

>>3914081
a woman of the team fucked with a young dolphin for 2 years or so and when the programme got moved to another place they get separated the sad dolphin an hero soon after that.

[Anonymous No.3914115]

>>3914081
No but one of his female lab assistance Margaret did fuck a dolphin named Peter after teaching it the alphabet. They keep the male dolphin separated from female dolphins so it got horny so the lab assistant relieved him. I dont feel like linking a huffingtonpost article about it. John Lilly just abused the dolphins by giving them drugs and keeping them in confined cages while experimenting on them.

[Anonymous No.3914123]

>>3914112
Oh right I forgot he an hero'd. Poor guy. Dolphins are highly emotional and intelligent and dont deserve to be mistreated by humans at sea-world. One of the Flipper dolphins also committed seppuku.
http://www.oddee.com/item_98725.aspx
sorry clickbait link

[Anonymous No.3914127]

>>3914123
also this is kind of fucked up because you think the guy would have attempted to save the dolphin from drowning itself.

[Anonymous No.3914134]

>>3914081
>DID THE DOLPHINS FUCK HIM
>DID HE FUCK THE DOLPHINS

Don't be silly...the dolphins fucked the female intern Margaret Howe.

Look it up.

[Anonymous No.3914138]

>>3914081
>>3914112
>>3914115
>>3914134

>"It was sexual on his part - it was not sexual on mine, sensuous perhaps.

>"It would just become part of what was going on like an itch, just get rid of that ... scratch and we would be done and move on.

>"I was there to get to know Peter, that was part of Peter."

[Anonymous No.3914487]

>>3914138
>>3914134
>>3913875
I like the part in the interview where she talks about how much Peter, the Dolphin, loved her legs.

He would spend hours staring at get ; specifically the back of her knee.

Then he would get horny and hump on her leg until he came.

[Anonymous No.3914489]

>>3914487
>Dolphin with a leg fetish.

What a kinky perv.

[Anonymous No.3914494]

>>3914487
>*staring at them [her legs]

[Anonymous No.3914495]

>>3914487
The back of the knee is the fourth hole after all.

[Anonymous No.3914512]

>>3914489
>>3914487
>>3914494
>>3914495

Wasn't there a dolphin in the Uk 10 years ago.
Who lured people to swim with him and then go full bill cosby on them ?

Anyway we are sinking deeper into the off topic.

[Anonymous No.3914526]

I love Defender of the Future to bits, i never could get into the 2d eccos

If Switch had a new Ecco game, I would buy a switch in an instant, or any console that got a new Ecco game

[Anonymous No.3914529]

>>3914512
Dolphins are not rapists. That is a smear campaign by mainstream headline media.
http://justingregg.com/the-dolphin-rape-myth/

[Anonymous No.3914532]

>>3914512
>we are sinking deeper into the off topic

Or are we ascending into higher realms of consciousness?

[Anonymous No.3914550]

>>3914512
>off topic

Wrong!

John C. Lilly and Pink Floyd inspired the creation of Ecco the Dolphin.

You can't have a proper Ecco thread without bringing them up.

[Anonymous No.3914560]

>>3914529
Stop the rape apology!

Ecco is a dolphin, he lured millions children with his cute cover "knak knak I am a dolphin". parents trusted him and opened their wallets and doors to him. then when you are alone with him he show you some jumping tricks and cute fishes.and He rip your ears and heart with the vortex sound leaving you speechless, corne you in front of your TV and rape the shit of you in every possible way. you couldn't talk cause people will think you are pussy ass niggers who got handled by a cute dolphin game.And don't expect a new game until christmas.

[Anonymous No.3914571]

>tfw got weirdly moved at the beginning after seeing all the sea creatures sucked away and that odd ominous music sets in

Made me feel like I was being hunted by a alien off screen.

[Anonymous No.3914584]

>>3914560
You asked for it. Ecco didnt rape you. You controlled Ecco and experienced getting raped by aliens vicariously. Animals and Humans are brutal creatures but feminists need to stop classifying everything as rape to vilify men and act like victims.

[Anonymous No.3914595]

Anyone else have Thalassophobia because of this game?

[Anonymous No.3914601]

There is an Ecco cameo in Sonic Wings 2

[Anonymous No.3914615]

>>3914584

Stop the Delphinoarchy !

>>3914595
No. But I didn't feel awesome too while playing some parts. my sister on the other hand was the first victime of the game in our house. hated Ecco games guts. years later when She came back from Uni for summer break and found out the nice lil game I was playing on the DC was Ecco "3" I was expecting anything but not that look on her face, it was priceless.

[Anonymous No.3914662]

>>3914615
You should tell your sexy sister to stop being a pussy and grow some balls.

Life is fucked up. Disasters happen to all of us and you cant control every situation. Either cry about it or do something. Mind altering drugs destroy the ego and see alternate subconscious realities. Ecco's journey is the existential puzzle to unlocking the universe. Metaspheres transform Ecco into a seagul, shark and Vortex drone to understand their existence and pain. The Vortex are the real rapists. Take the Asterite redpill.

[Anonymous No.3914687]

>>3914662
Ecco is a hero on his games.
Games are staged like any other entertainment.
So ecco is an actor who play the hero in his story.
If Ecco was Tom Cruise.
Who are the Scientology church behind him?

Take redpill and face the truth. Vortex are red-flag by Asty the false deity and Ecco his prophet. Atlanteans illuminaties did the abduction of Ecco's pod!

[Anonymous No.3914697]

>>3914687
t b h I still dont fully understand the plot Ecco but it sounds like 4D chess. Did the Asterite have ulterior motives for using Ecco and his powers?

[Anonymous No.3914706]

>>3914697
Nan it was just a joke. sorry anon.

The vortex are evil and asterite and atlanteans are good.
If this shit is not evil than what the fuck is evil.

[Anonymous No.3914714]

I'm a fucking dumbass, what does redpilling mean?

[Anonymous No.3914717]

>>3914714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE7PKRjrid4

[Anonymous No.3914719]

>>3914717
I mean duh, I know it's from the matrix but on meme level does it mean anything else?

[Anonymous No.3914729]

>>3914706
Shes also the 'mother' to the Vortex hive like in Aliens. Pretty sure this is a metaphor for Xenophobia.

[Anonymous No.3914734]

>>3914719
It means when you learn the truth that jews are evil.

[Anonymous No.3914746]

>>3914734
well maybe not totally 'evil' but a majority of them control and subvert people bla bla bla.

[Anonymous No.3914927]

>>3914571
That's the idea, I think.
I was a pretty young kid when I played Ecco and for some time I only swimmed lime a madman and talked to other dolphins, never took seriously the taunts of that other onw who says you should jumpr higher so when thesea got drained it really hit me hard.

The rest of the game only made me feel even uneasier but weirdly trapped.

[Anonymous No.3914934]

>>3913454
Ecco had fantastic lore.

[Anonymous No.3914937]

>>3914927
Fugg, I write with a lot of errors when I'm sleepy.
I hope the post is still understandable.

[Anonymous No.3914943]

>>3914937
I understand you. What made me feel anxiety the most was having to surface for air. Also the sharp yelps as Ecco hits sharp rocks.

[Anonymous No.3915130]

>>3914729
Fun fact: in a Sega sonic magazine version of Ecco, the artist just drew the vortex drones exactly as the Giger alien xenomorph.

[Anonymous No.3915132]

>>3915130
Get away from the Asterite you bitch!

[Anonymous No.3915134]

>>3915130
>>3915132
Alien vs Predator vs Ecco the Dolphin when?

[Anonymous No.3915141]

>>3915134
Dude ! I am working on it. Just a slight change. Ecco the dolphin is a shark adopted by dolphins and he is cool. sharks are cooler right ?

[Anonymous No.3915252]

>>3914529

[Anonymous No.3915270]

>>3914601
>posting a picture of Dolphin Fighter's 2 and calling it sonic wings

nice try fegget

[Anonymous No.3915617]

Which version of Ecco Defender of the Future should I play?

Dreamcast or PS2?

[Anonymous No.3915624]

>>3913460
YO THIS AIN'T SEA WORLD BITCH
THIS IS AS REAL AS IT GETS

[Anonymous No.3915654]

>go over to friend's house
>shows me his emulator setup
>boots up Ecco and start playing it
>he's just aimlessly swimming around the beginning stage
>"man I loved playing this game as a kid"
>just running into jellyfish and shit
>"I don't know if the rom is messed up but I've just been stuck in this area"
>tell him to boost jump straight into the air
>he does, it triggers the abduction cinematic
>"whoa I've never seen that happen"

[Anonymous No.3915674]

>>3915617
I don't know really for me the Dreamcast version look more bright. The sunlight underwater are more convincing. The sand too. Blue grain of the game look gray on PS2 for me. but maybe I am just biased toward DC and Sega in general.

>>3915654
Teach him the strange stories of John C Lilly. Story telling is the best way to motivate people. they want to found more about them.

[Anonymous No.3915680]

>>3914127
How? Force it to breath, you dumb fuck?

[Anonymous No.3915689]

>>3915674
He's already into the aesthetic, thanks to Eccojams and other vaporwave shit. I think he just didn't want to admit that was his gateway drug.

[Anonymous No.3915710]

>>3915680
Mouth to blowhole artificial respiration maybe ?

[Anonymous No.3915849]

>YOU MAY NOT PASS YET

... aaaaaand dropped

[Anonymous No.3915869]

>>3915849

[Anonymous No.3915871]

>>3915849
Why did that part trigger you?

[Anonymous No.3915996]

Ecco Jr. is the comfiest of comfy

[Anonymous No.3916046]

>>3915996
here come the comfy meme.

How come this game became so expensive and the minus 2 on Mcd/Scd the others a dirt cheap.

[Anonymous No.3916072]

>>3916046
I just meant that its easy sounds nice and looks pretty good.

Is comfy not cool anymore?

[Anonymous No.3916080]

>>3916072
>>3915996
Ecco Jr is comfy but those huge blue whales spook me out.

[Anonymous No.3916081]

>>3916072
It was never cool

[Anonymous No.3916110]

>>3913454

You must be confused with the game EVO: Search for Eden. Ecco the dolphin is completely different.

[Anonymous No.3916117]

>>3915871
>Why do non-creative and artificially difficult obstacles trigger you?!

It's poor level design, you imbecile. There's nothing fun about brick walls that inexplicably obstruct your progress, and having to be paranoid about said brick walls appearing in any given level for no discernible reason.

The developers clearly wanted to force the player to do everything in a certain manner, but they couldn't be arsed to design the levels in a way that does this more passively rather than slapping the player in the face.

[Anonymous No.3916247]

>>3916110
What? No. At least I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.3916253]

>>3916247
E.V.O. has aliens, ancient beings and probably you could evolve a flying dolphin some way.

[P No.3916269]

>tfw we never got the sequel to this game

did you like it?

[Anonymous No.3916313]

>>3915849
>being this big of shit-pleb

GIT GUD!

[Anonymous No.3916318]

>>3916117
You suck. Big time.

[Anonymous No.3916342]

>>3916269
Is there any word on what Ecco 3 would have been about/like?

[Anonymous No.3916347]

>>3916081
Stop posting dolphin dicks

[P No.3916348]

>>3916342
>Sentinels of the Universe was to be the sequel to Ecco the Dolphin: Defender of the Future. It was in development for the Sega Dreamcast but was cancelled in the early 2000s when Sega discontinued the console and largely ended first party support.

Someone got the unreleased alpha from a Naomi dev kit and dumped the rom a while back, it's a shame it didn't go anywhere, they could've easily ported the game to PS2 like they did with the first game.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CmE7Qr47iGU

[Anonymous No.3916359]

>>3916117
It could be that its a puzzle game, Anon. In an open-world kind of game, I could get behind you on this point, but the fact that there are doors to unlock to get to the next part of the stage stops it from being a movie and allows it to be somewhat of a, I dunno... GAME.

Name to me any way to make this game work as more than just a beautiful trip underwater. The gameplay of Ecco was pretty difficult, not for the gates, but for the challenges to get through said gates. That's not artificial difficulty. You just suck.

[Anonymous No.3916365]

Since this is an Ecco thread this seems like a good place to ask. I'd like to try Defender of the Future but I don't know the differences between the Dreamcast and PS2 versions. Could someone fill me in so I can better decide what to get please?

[Wayne Campbell No.3916381]

>>3915252
Are you like a fag, man?

[Anonymous No.3916392]

>>3915132
>>3915130
>Ecco the Dolphin disintegrating a xenomorph with an echo-location blast

Holy shit. This comic is based as fuck!

[P No.3916403]

>>3916365
There's really no difference between the ps2 and DC versions; I think the ps2 version has extra things like concept art and such.

[Anonymous No.3916783]

>>3916117

Whoa holy shit. Seriously?

Are people this stupid?

[Anonymous No.3916784]

>>3915849

back to /v/ faggot

Maybe this one's more your speed.

[Anonymous No.3916785]

>>3916365

Play the Dreamcast version, it's the console it was made for.

[Anonymous No.3916786]

>>3916117
Sometimes I wonder if these mongoloids that are always braying about poor design and artificial difficulty have trouble dressing themselves or eating.

[Anonymous No.3916847]

>>3916342
>Ecco 3

[Anonymous No.3917112]

>>3916117
You sound like you hate any video game that isn't completely straightforward. Are you the beat em ups fan who also can't handle Comix Zone because it requires a little thinking and planning?

[Anonymous No.3917612]

>>3915849
What's it like to go through life being this bad at games?

[Anonymous No.3917617]

>>3916784
that's a really good insult.

That being said, Ecco Jr.'s pretty cool in letting you play as a killer whale but definitely really kiddy.

[Anonymous No.3917818]

>>3916784
Hey
>>3916080
>>3915996
We were just mentioning that Ecco Jr is still fun and looks pretty good and sounds nice

[Anonymous No.3917828]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyrGIgRC7NE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kflIO9Junec

which is superior /vr/?

[Anonymous No.3917875]

>>3917828
Both are great. I really like the eerie alien robotic sounds of the genesis version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgvN-quQB3o

Ecco JR also had pretty good music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNQnYpp-cA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gACxzskLjo

[Anonymous No.3917998]

>>3917818

Don't get me wrong, it's a great game. But its's definitely easy mode Ecco.

[Anonymous No.3918003]

>>3917617

Yeah I was impressed when I tried it on an emulator for the first time. Was expecting something akin to an Ecco knock off, but what I got was actually a really fleshed out, albeit easier, Ecco title.

[Anonymous No.3918243]

>>3917828
The real question is....Which opening title theme is superior?

>Genesis
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJXiZpCL0j0

>CD
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tCiLK-9pgJs

[Anonymous No.3918264]

>>3917998
Fair enough. I just didn't like seeing it as the insult right after it was brought up.

[Anonymous No.3918268]

>>3918003
Ecco was surprisingly popular in the mid 90's.

[Anonymous No.3918269]

>>3918243
For the first game, probably CD.

For Tides of Time, the Genesis by far.

[Anonymous No.3918280]

>>3918243
Superior in the tone of the game? Gens
The soundtrack fits the aesthetic.

Superior as in a 90's crystal healing casette tape for meditating while you're driving? Sega CD

Genesis soundtrack is the only choice

[Anonymous No.3918335]

>>3916342
http://web8.orcaserver.de/ecco/

This site knows just about everything ecco related

[Anonymous No.3918345]

>>3918335
Err.... that site used to be a lot better?

[Anonymous No.3918349]

>>3918268
I agree, I think I even saw a statistic once that it outsold Sonic 2 or something

[Anonymous No.3918650]

>>3918335
That's the best Ecco website out there.

Also, check out their download page for Ecco CD: Fixed & Enhanced Edition.

http://web8.orcaserver.de/ecco/downloads/games/index.php

[Anonymous No.3918652]

>>3918335
That's the best Ecco fansite out there.

Also, check out their download page for...
>Ecco PC: Fixed & Enhanced Edition.

http://web8.orcaserver.de/ecco/downloads/games/index.php

[Anonymous No.3918679]

>>3918652
>>Ecco PC: Fixed & Enhanced Edition
Wow, I never knew about this, thanks!
Longshot, but does it include both the Genesis and CD soundtracks? I like them both.

[Anonymous No.3918706]

>>3918679
Yes. You can actually pick and choose which tracks you want for each level (CD or Genesis).

It's just about the absolute best way to play Ecco the Dolphin

[Anonymous No.3918709]

>>3918706
Oh, hell yeah. Sounds easily the definitive version.

[Anonymous No.3918862]

>>3918652
Why are backgrounds all fucked up and ugly tho?

[Anonymous No.3918886]

>>3913454
do you have a 3DS? the port is actually really good, much better than my friend's xbox 360 version. i grew up with the genesis version, though, so i'm not sure if that works for you.

[Anonymous No.3918982]

>>3913838
How do you defeat the great white shark? I just tried defender of the future for the first time a few months ago but got stuck at the boss of the 2nd or 3rd level. Love the first 2 games but never got a chance to play defender of the future when it was new.

[Anonymous No.3918998]

>>3914127

LIVE! LIVE DAMN YOU! FLIPPO, JUST TELL ME WHY FIRST AT LEAST

[Anonymous No.3919018]

>>3918982
There is a hole in the coral reef where he swim.
You need to make him get stuck there and grab the crystal from the other side.

If you want to kill me. I use a dirty trick where you attack him from behind when he change course.

There is a part where water is shallow up the inclined reef (border limite of the shark room)
Grab his attention with the sonar,
He will try to attack you but change direction cause he can't go into shallow water.
Hit him and get back there quickly
Repeat until he die.

[Anonymous No.3919205]

>>3918862
Backgrounds are not fucked up. They are merely higher resolution.

Compare the Genesis version of Ecco to the PC enhanced version.

[Anonymous No.3919212]

>>3919205
higher resolution = fucked up tile placement?

[Anonymous No.3919214]

>>3919212
its just the edges on the background that trigger me. the other sprites and ecco look good.

[Anonymous No.3919220]

>>3919214
I remember some of the background tiles were fucked up on the genesis version also.

[Anonymous No.3919276]

>>3919212
Seriously it's the EXACT SAME TIME PLACEMENT as the Genesis version.

Pic related.

The pixels are just more clear and therefore more prominent.

It doesn't bother me. But I will admit that that the muddied graphics of the Genesis make everything blend better than the crisp clear cut pixels of the PC version.

[Anonymous No.3919278]

>>3919212
Seriously it's the EXACT SAME TILE PLACEMENT as the Genesis version.

Pic related.

The pixels are just more clear and therefore more prominent with harder edges.

It doesn't bother me. But I will admit that that the muddied graphics of the Genesis make everything blend better than the crisp clear cut pixels of the PC version.

[Anonymous No.3919290]

>>3918652
This version also has a save feature and level select.

It also have FMV cutscene, which were originally in the Sega CD version of Tides of time.

Yes the Sega CD version of Tides of Time has FMV cutscenes from events in Ecco the Dolphin.

[Anonymous No.3919295]

>>3919290
.
>Yes the Sega CD version of Tides of Time has FMV cutscenes from events in Ecco the Dolphin.

I always figured that was because they were rushed to release Ecco on Sega CD and the FMV sequences weren't finished so the wound up not being included on that game.

But when it came time to release Tides of Time they thought "fuck it, we pit in all this work let's slap these scenes from the last game in there are random intervals."

It's a little jarring.

[Anonymous No.3919990]

Do some of you have more informations about the collector box Ecco 1 & 2 had ?

can't find shit about them.
Also is there some cool collectible around the game ? I know there is the LP of the first game.

[Anonymous No.3920001]

>>3919990
I want that freaking t-shirt so bad.

[Anonymous No.3920034]

>>3919990
Those were from contests in europ

[Anonymous No.3920041]

>>3919278
I guess it is the same and they would have to redraw the entire bg to make it look better.

[Anonymous No.3920061]

>>3920034
Any idea How many of those things did they release ?

[Anonymous No.3920078]

>>3920061
couple hundred probably. Ed even sold one on Ebay a year ago that sold for $400.
http://www.seganerds.com/2015/09/07/ed-annunciata-posts-ecco-the-dolphin-box-set-on-ebay/

[Anonymous No.3920091]

>>3920061
>>3919990
>Sega made a deal with a London aquarium which housed a real dolphin named Ecco that would be benefited by the proceeds. It was sold in very limited quantities in a handful of shops.

[Anonymous No.3920094]

>>3920078
fuuuuck I would definitely pay for it in that mint state.

That just enraging

[Anonymous No.3920178]

>>3919990
I want to know what's on that cassette tape.

[Anonymous No.3920184]

>>3920178

[Anonymous No.3920214]

>>3920034
these cunts have never played any of the games.

[Anonymous No.3920237]

>>3920214
I would steal their clothing after drugs and rough sex because I'm a gentleman.

[Anonymous No.3920291]

>>3920184
Kek.

[Anonymous No.3920682]

>>3913561

I beat them, they weren't really hard, just annoying at times

[Anonymous No.3920875]

>>3914526
have I got something for you then

[Anonymous No.3921576]

I starter playing Tides of Time, its much easier than first Ecco, at least at the beginning.
I went up to first autoscroll level, one with waterways in the sky and dropped it there for a while to play something else. It was the first time ToT gave me any difficulty.

Well, there was this moment you had to break/dislodge crystals by rhythmically dashing into them, took me a while to guess it, but nothing killed me then, so it was just fucking around for half an hour until I understood what has to be done.
Also, that was the moment I understood that enemies dont respawn after you kill them. Pretty neat in comparison to first game when you were never safe.

[Anonymous No.3922512]

The game was complete nightmre fuel.

[Anonymous No.3922574]

its crazy to think there's a mechanical dolphin/shark boss in the tides of time beta

[Anonymous No.3922747]

>>3913517


Overhead the albatross hangs motionless upon the air
And deep beneath the rolling waves in labyrinths of coral caves
The echo of a distant tide
Comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine

And no one showed us to the land
And no one knows the wheres or whys
But something stirs and something tries
And starts to climb towards the light

[Anonymous No.3922756]

Anybode else find this stuff about Dolphin's intelligence fascinating?
I wonder how smart could they be.
Their relationships with humans are also amazing.
How wide is their spectre of emotions? Do they fill love as strong as we do? What about other emotions?


Damn, Dolphinc are cool man.

Creatures like this just make me happy that we live in the world with such wide diversity of animal life.

[Anonymous No.3923109]

>>3922756
True dat.

[Anonymous No.3923708]

>>3913695
I never even managed to beat Ecco jr. I wish my parents didn't make me sell all of my old games and consoles.

[Anonymous No.3924364]

>>3923708
I played through Ecco Jr. With my little sister.

We wanted to play Ecco the Dolphin but it was too difficult for us at the time.

I'm pretty sure that we weren't the only little kids that really liked Ecco but weren't able to play through it.

That's why the developers made Ecco Jr.

Now the kids lil kids can enjoy an ocean adventure too.

[Anonymous No.3924401]

>>3922574
>Beta
Tell me it's playable and could you sauce me to it?

[Anonymous No.3924528]

>>3924401
I got you, senpai
http://www.mediafire.com/file/x38f02tao662kf4

[Anonymous No.3924698]

>>3922574
That alpha intro is nightmare fuel
>>3924401
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Ecco:_The_Tides_of_Time_(Genesis)/Ecco_2

[Anonymous No.3925697]

>>3924698
Woah.

[Anonymous No.3925780]

>>3914714
Some pills are red
Some pills are blue
Omae wa mou
Shindeiru

[Anonymous No.3925840]

>>3921576
Ecco is def more brutal. However you can pick a higher difficulty in Tides of Time by swimming up past the shells at the beginning. I think Hard mode has more levels as well.
>>3922756
Animal intelligence is very fascinating. Ravens and Dolphins are some of my favorite animals because they are so fun to watch interacting and playing. I love how the art in Ecco is based of Zdeněk Burian scientific illustrations.

[Anonymous No.3925846]

>>3925840

[Anonymous No.3925847]

>>3925846

[Anonymous No.3925864]

>>3925840
based off*

[Anonymous No.3925880]

>>3925840
>>3925846
>>3925847
Nice.
The influence on Ecco is very apparent.

[Anonymous No.3925906]

>>3916117
Do you hate Doom as well?
It has the same kind of key puzzles buddy.

[Anonymous No.3925910]

>>3925906
The dude hates most video games.

[Anonymous No.3926010]

What happened to him /vr/?

[Anonymous No.3926019]

>>3926010
We'll never find out.

[Anonymous No.3926741]

>>3926010
Woah!

[Anonymous No.3926760]

>>3915849
For real though how do you get past this? Jump high in the air? I only started playing it on my PSP because I love the music.

[Anonymous No.3926778]

>>3918243
Genesis is one of the best game soundtracks ever IMO.
Also you should get a hardware recording, it sounds noticably different from emulator recordings.

[Anonymous No.3926790]

>>3922756
Y'all fuckers should read some David Brin.

[Anonymous No.3926798]

>>3926010
That's the bad ending you get if you cheated. Pretty brilliant of them to make it like that in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.3926816]

>>3926760
Time to explore anon.
If you can't beat this level in your own, you have no hope in the later levels.

[Anonymous No.3927010]

>>3923708
>I wish my parents didn't make me sell all of my old games and consoles

WHY DO PARENTS DO DUMB SHIT LIKE THIS

REEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.3927040]

>>3926760
Listen to this guy >>3926816
Look around, explore, see if there are any other dolphins or other creatures you can talk to. It's a puzzle game in many ways, like 2D underwater Tomb Raider. The first couple levels are really just learning the basics of how the controls work, if you can't get past them just switch to another game. It gets pretty hard as it goes on.

[Anonymous No.3927051]

>>3927040
I learned how to do death sonar after I finished the game.
You really have to be specific on the timing, wish it would be described more clearly.

[Anonymous No.3927096]

>>3927051
Well I gotta say, beating the game without using it is pretty impressive. It could have been, if the game was made today there would be a little tutorial probably.

[Anonymous No.3927107]

>>3926010
Truly they were an Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

[Anonymous No.3927178]

>>3927096
Nonono, not beaten, finished. I savestated it to hell and back.
But yes, without knowing how to use death sonar, freezing sonar was a godsent.

>Tutorial
It was clear enough that I was supposed to combine dash and sonar, but All i did was sonaring after dashing. It didnt connect to sonar WHILE charging dash. I guess simple presentation by the dolphin telling you this would be enough to understand the timing on this move. Either that, or more forgiving timing to execute it. Or maybe Im just stupid.

[Anonymous No.3927456]

>>3922574
Pretty sure that the sprite is still used in rhe final boss fight.

[Anonymous No.3927767]

>>3927178
I don't know, I just messed around with sonars and dashes until I saw it was doing something different and killing stuff. That was back when you were often expected to figure shit out on your own though so I never expected an explanation.

[Anonymous No.3927795]

>>3922574
Interesting that it's the Ecco 1 sprite.

>>3927178
Save states or not, if you can do this jump >>3913893
you'll be better than 90% of Ecco players.

[Anonymous No.3927886]

>>3927795
Oh, I did!
I remember trying to look up HOW to do this jump and not getting much help.
Then, after failing for half an hour, I managed to make it and I died to medusae in the next jump without saving. Obviously I had to do it all again.
I think if I fired it up now, I could do it in about 5-10 minutes of trying.

Recently I heard there was a secret tunnel that bypasses those jumps?

Anyway, another problem I had was that I had no idea you can pick up blocs, boulders and other stuff from the seafloor. I understood that you could move/push them around, but had no knowledge of picking up mechanic until around the Atlantis, where its mandatory to progress. I ended up looking up the video walkthrough and was completely flabbergasted when I saw you can actually do that. Later I noticed that recorded demo playing if you dont press start shows it. I was feeling like an idiot.

[Anonymous No.3928071]

>>3927886
Ecco is all about exploration, trial and error

[Anonymous No.3928347]

>>3914526

my nigga

DotF is so much fun to play

[Anonymous No.3928356]

I just took acid how do I not sound like an asshole. But Ecco makes me depressed... but also dolphins make me happy. DUDE RAINBOW DOLPHINS. dude... g'night

[Anonymous No.3928458]

What's the better choice for emulating Defender of the Future, Dreamcast or PS2? I guess it mostly comes down to which system has the better emulator, since the games are supposedly very similar.

[Anonymous No.3928632]

>>3928458
They are similar enough but the dreamcast ver is more aquatic and colorful. Im stuck with the synthetic ps2 version.

[Anonymous No.3928775]

>>3913454
>Redpill me on Ecco the Dolphin, /vr/.

1.swim around looking how to advance the level.
2. eat stuff to replenish life.
3. ram stuff to kill or break.

that's it. not really that great.

[Anonymous No.3928815]

>>3928775
lol have you even played it?

[Anonymous No.3928914]

>>3915132

[Anonymous No.3928925]

>>3926010
Wasn't there a plot summary of the planned third game somewhere online?

[Anonymous No.3928976]

>>3928775

[Anonymous No.3928987]

>>3928976
Remember kids dont litter.

[Anonymous No.3928993]

>>3913454
http://web8.orcaserver.de/ecco/downloads/games/index.php

[Anonymous No.3929085]

>>3913454
Good game. I cleared all the individual levels but I used the password for the final boss because I didn't feel like clearing The Machine every time to practice it. I should complete it legitimately some time.

[Anonymous No.3929165]

>>3914512
good job /vr/
/thread

[Anonymous No.3929168]

>>3915132
Thats dope! What is that and when?

[Anonymous No.3929186]

>>3929168
That's the Ecco miniseries from the UK Sonic comic.
http://web8.orcaserver.de/ecco/downloads/comics/

[Anonymous No.3930058]

Glorious!
Fuckin' saved!

[Anonymous No.3930072]

>>3928976
Glorious!
Fuckin' saved!

[Anonymous No.3930087]

this game taught me dolphins cant breathe underwater

fuck oxygen meters

[Anonymous No.3930109]

>>3930087
I bet you thought dolphins were fish, too, you pleb

[Anonymous No.3930183]

>>3915849

Is this your first video game or something?

[Anonymous No.3930301]

>>3930183
I mean, it's obviously his first action-adventure game at least. There's no way he hasn't encountered a locked door or some sort of obstacle in a game about fucking exploration before.

[Anonymous No.3930469]

>>3928914
Even xenomorphs would rather an-hero than face the wrath of Ecco the Dolphin.

[Anonymous No.3930575]

>>3928976
You have the image of the dolphin?

[Anonymous No.3930602]

>>3930301
>>3930183

He's probably only used to shmups and belt scrollers where all you need is reflexes.

[Anonymous No.3930623]

>>3927886
Good on you! Honestly I think that jump is the hardest thing in the game just because the timing is so tight. The last time I looked around on youtube I couldn't find anyone who actually did it. They all used the shortcut. I've thought about putting up a tutorial for it, but don't even have an account there.

I gotta say it's interesting to hear someone running into problems like not knowing you can pick up rocks. It was another of those things I couldn't really describe how I figured it out, but I was doing it the first time I was trying to beat Vents.

That's the sort of thing that nowadays a game would do something to teach you is possible before blocking your way with it. The Asterite had me stuck for weeks though. And I do remember in Tides of Time the crystals you have to hit with rhythmic sonar to break them loose took me seemingly forever to figure out.

[Anonymous No.3931712]

>>3930469
Don't mess with Ecco.

[Anonymous No.3931997]

>>3931712
reeeeeeeeeee~

[Anonymous No.3932398]

>>3931997
Dolphins in space man. Far out!

[Anonymous No.3932420]

>>3930602
Dude I am a shmup player and Ecco feel awesome to play.
>>3930575
Just the dolphin or dolphin with the suit ? can upload my ugly PSD if you want.

[Anonymous No.3932470]

>>3927886
I was playing some last night and something else very useful they don't explain well came to mind. After you get the confusion sonar from saving the lost dolphins in Lagoon, you can permanently kill enemies.

All you have to do is quickly tap the dash button again after having killed an enemy. If you do it right you'll see that instead of disintegrating into light sparkles, they do a little spiral into Ecco. After that the jellyfish or shark or whatever won't respawn if you leave the area.

This gets very very useful in some of the later levels when there are tons of shark, crabs and the like getting in your way.

[Anonymous No.3932534]

>>3932470
It work in first Ecco?
I noticed that in Tides and was really relieved, being able to clear the level out of enemies brings the difficulty down big time.

[Anonymous No.3932537]

>>3932534
Yup. If I remember right in ToT he can do it from the start. In Ecco 1 you need to rescue all the lost dolphins in the 4th level. That also gets you the confusion sonar power which is extremely useful as well. So you can confuse a shark and kill it without too much trouble so it doesn't come back

[Anonymous No.3932540]

>>3932537
Well, I guess its time for me to replay that game, no savestates this time.

[Anonymous No.3932551]

>>3932540
Enjoy! I am always in the middle of an Ecco replay.

Also fun but rarely necessary, if you dash and turn immediately he stays in position and tail whips the enemy instead of moving forward.

[Anonymous No.3933401]

>>3932470
Oh weird! I always thought that was a graphical effect and never noticed that enemies wouldn't respawn afterward. Guess I need to pay more attention.

[Anonymous No.3933473]

>>3932470
Nice.

[Anonymous No.3934212]

I should try this game.

[Anonymous No.3934552]

>>3934212
Yes you should.

[Anonymous No.3935672]

Cool.

[Anonymous No.3935691]

i've played a lot of "scary" games in my life, but this one without a doubt instilled me with a sense of dread that very few actual horror games ever did. what is it about the deep dark water that makes us so tense? i sincerely doubt the game was ever intended to even be intimidating.

[Anonymous No.3935885]

>>3935691
I think it's that you're slowly drowning all time and then the game forces you to be careful and patient otherwise you die even faster. I'm pretty sure it was meant to be scary.

[Anonymous No.3936203]

[Anonymous No.3936213]

>>3913454
It's a 90's thing, You know those stupid dragon crystal ball things you see in flea markets? In the 90's we were tripping on all kinds of stupid thing like that, but it wasn't just dragons, it was dolphins, tigers, wolves, you name it. Well we were all about channeling our inner animals and Ecco just helped us do that so well.

[Anonymous No.3936731]

>>3936213
Far out man!

[Anonymous No.3936770]

>>3935885
This. Getting your shit slapped by a fucktopus when you're already out of air and half dead is terrifying. And that's the third level or some shit.

[Anonymous No.3936773]

>>3936213
That shit was around in the 70's and 80's too, but 90's kicked it into high gear.

[Anonymous No.3936978]

>>3936770
Yeah. After a while you understand that its better to drown for a bit than run into enemies in a hurry.
Looking back, every death I had was via taking damage. I dont think I drowned even once.

[Anonymous No.3937641]

Help!
Tides of Time!
Just got back from the future and rescued the baby orcas.
Where do I go now?
Bottom right there are two boulders that I would say are the exit, but I cant seem to find a way to remove them!
Any help?

[Anonymous No.3937753]

Not played an ecco game in like 20 years. Tempted to LP one but I'm worried that'll automatically make me a wannabe e-celeb faggot. At the same time just wanna chill and play ecco with "friends" ie whoever watches it and leaves a comment to call me a faggot.

[Anonymous No.3937754]

>>3937753
Don't worry you won't be an e-celeb, barely anyone cares about sega games on youtube

[Anonymous No.3937940]

>>3915252
>Check 'em

[Anonymous No.3938002]

>>3937754
what if I did nothing but top 10 lists. Could I quit my job then?

How about TOP 10 NIGHTMARE INDUCING BOSSES in VIDEOGAAAAMES

all 10 are how disappointing your parents are in you for playing video games.

[Anonymous No.3938005]

>>3938002
Nah.
You would AT LEAST have to throw in your reactions to various reaction videos.
Also, facecam and screaming.
Lots of screaming.

[Anonymous No.3938031]

>>3937641
hmm I forget but usually boulders are dealt with either by pushing turtles into them or using a special sonar blast from given by crystals.

[Anonymous No.3938042]

>>3938005
>reacting to reactions of reactions

Okay straight up I think I'd be fucking great at this.

>Look at this asshole being scared by this fucking game what are you TWELVE FUCKS SAKE it's not even that big a deal STOP CRYING.

[Anonymous No.3938782]

>>3938031
I figured it out.
After you talk to mommy orca, she sings that you have help of all orcakind.
At THAT MOMENT, one of her five kids you just saved swims away.
You are supposed to follow him, as he leads you to the place where the boulders are.
Or rather were, as they vanished allowing you to pass.
Well, that could have been conveyed more clearly. There are five of those little black motherfuckers swimming around, how am I supposed to notice one of them swimming away?

Anyway, next level is the same dance of 'follow the leader', and It seems the finally difficulty seems to slowly ramp up. After few failed attempts, I decided that its no use tryng to follow the dolphin while trying to avoid enemies, so I took one thing out off this equation.
Pre-clearing whole route out of enemies is tedious. Even more so when you manage to die later on and have to clear it all over again.
I yet have to advance further, but its a bit nice to have a bit of challenge on the skill level and not on 'what the fuck am I supposed to do now?' level.

Also, the favorite music track so far?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk72RMv9d0s
The energy in it is a nice break from deep grim and monotony of other tracks.

[Anonymous No.3938784]

>>3938782
Also, the fact that the leading dolphin keeps track of how many times you failed makes me feel inadequate at playing that game.

[Anonymous No.3938786]

>>3938782
Tube of Medusa is definitely the best song. But I like this one too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnLR-NiaQCo

[Anonymous No.3938790]

>>3938042
>STOP CRYING
All of those reactions are faked anyway because millennials think they're funny for some reason, so I doubt you'd ever see real tears.

[Anonymous No.3938797]

Can anyone tell me how the heck Ecco turns into a bird? How does it make sense?
I mean, I get its the future and the oceans themselves are sentient or something, and Dolphins evolved to swim through the air by pumping themselves full of helium somehow, but Ecco actually changing species for some reason? Was it explained in game and I just missed it? I already came back from the future but have yet to finish the game.

[Anonymous No.3938812]

>>3913486
And there was that woman who kept dolphins and wanked them off too. Is she in it?

[Anonymous No.3938815]

>>3938797
The metaspheres were created by the Asterite and presumably tap into genetic lineage or something.

[Anonymous No.3938817]

>>3938815
For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.3938825]

>>3938817
dont you mean porpoise?

[Anonymous No.3938835]

>>3938825

[Anonymous No.3938848]

>>3938825
You motherfucker

[Anonymous No.3938923]

>>3938782
Keep in mind that Ecco is from an era where figuring out what exactly you're supposed to do is part of the game.

I fucking love the Tubes of Medusa music. It's a fun level too, but tense.

[Anonymous No.3938994]

>>3938923
Nah, Im not holding it against the game, just bitching.
It is a new mechanic tho, mandatory one too. And they drop it on you in such sneaky way.
Imagine if you are playing SMB and got to the final Bowser fight.
Except nothing works. Niether going for the axe, nor fireballs or headstomps.
What you have to do is to walk LEFT, out off the boss fight to find a minigun you can use to blast him to pieces, thats the only way you can defeat him.

Not cool.

[Anonymous No.3939094]

>>3938994
Different tastes I guess. Kind of an extreme example, but you almost just described why I've never liked the Mario games much at all but Ecco is among my favorite games of all time. I love that kind of wtf am I supposed to do kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.3939107]

>>3938923
>I fucking love the Tubes of Medusa music. It's a fun level too, but tense.

Seconding, best music in the game along with the title and the 2nd level.

[Anonymous No.3939173]

>>3937940
Underrated.

[Anonymous No.3939189]

>>3938005
ECCO is a pretty RAD 90's game.
Look for my top 10 reasons only 90's kids and undrstand Ecco video!
Like, comment, and subscribe!
Oh look JELLYFISH.
AUGH AGHHHHHH AHHHHJJJJJJJHHNNHH!
*audio redlines into distorted noiise*

[Anonymous No.3939259]

>>3913454
I kind of ended up with a Mega Drive fairly recently. Should I just get this game?

I ask because I see people recommending the 3DS version a lot and I'm wondering if the Sega one was somehow fucky

thank you

[Anonymous No.3939290]

>>3939189
Guaranteed millions of views in youtube.

[Anonymous No.3939308]

Could never really get into the game. Would play it at friends houses and even owned it at one point but the gameplay is just really fast and twitchy and kind of just sporadic. I love the atmospheric and the beginning part of the game but the gameplay seems to contradict it by being generally annoying to play.

I kind of just prefer the Endless Ocean series in that its a bit slower paced and the environments and tone seem to fit together.

[Anonymous No.3939324]

>>3939259
3DS port is pretty much exactly the Genesis game. It's a great port, but Genesis version is also.

[Anonymous No.3939340]

>Want to love Ecco
>Fantastic OST
>Gorgeous visuals
>Fascinating interesting world
>Too shit to get past level 2 though
Why must life be so cruel

[Anonymous No.3939382]

>>3939324
Got it. Pretty cheap too. Cheaper than most Mega Drive games I've seen on ebay.

wonder why that is

[Anonymous No.3939390]

>>3939382
it clear that you can grab the cartridge version for dirt cheap even the first game on cd is cheap.

But ecco Mega cd around here go for 140 to 200 euros easily.

[Anonymous No.3939392]

>>3939340
I feel you.
I would advise savestates, but limit it to like one or two states per level, dont make it too easy for yourself.

[Anonymous No.3939394]

>>3939392
I savestate at the start of each level, but the issue I'm having is just execution. It's frustrating because it's literally a case of git gud.

[Anonymous No.3939417]

>>3939394
State at level start is the same as a password.
If you find it too hard, give yourself ONE(and only one) savestate you can plop down at any time you want, but only once per level.
A checkpoint on call, if you will.
It should help the difficulty.

[Anonymous No.3939542]

>>3915849
Epic LOTR reference!

[Anonymous No.3939919]

>>3939542
Lol

[Anonymous No.3940289]

>>3939542
Us nerds, huh?

[Anonymous No.3940398]

>>3939308

>I just want to swim around and look at the scenery


Git Gud.

[Anonymous No.3940409]

>>3940398
Some people just want different things out of games.

[Anonymous No.3940639]

>>3940409
Fair enough

[Anonymous No.3940648]

>>3940639
I'm glad we could settle this amicably.

[Anonymous No.3940649]

>>3940648
Faggot

[Anonymous No.3940659]

>>3940648
Yeah, No need to spend time arguing with weakling pussy ass niggers.

[Anonymous No.3940663]

>>3940659
#gothim

[Anonymous No.3941390]

Dolphins, won't you?

[Anonymous No.3941470]

>>3939308
There's a solution that you might like. Ecco has a robust debug menu that lets you make him invulnerable as well as teleport inside of a level.

You can also alter the music's tempo which is pretty fun.

To do it, make him turn and pause while he's facing the screen. Then press Right, B, C, B, C, Down, C, Up

It works in every port of the game except the Sega CD version. It will let you swim around and explore the levels and story without the tension of the game if that's what you want.

[Anonymous No.3941503]

>>3920034
Neon hair looks straight out of a Junji Ito manga

[Anonymous No.3941523]

>>3920214
you're retarded anon, girls loved the snes. my two female cousins had them before anyone else in my family.

[Anonymous No.3941529]

>/v/ tries to talk about Ecco

[Anonymous No.3941535]

>>3941529
That was painfully unfunny

[Anonymous No.3941545]

>>3941529
What does that have to do with Ecco?

[Anonymous No.3941591]

>>3941523

[Anonymous No.3941606]

>>3914081
You. Just. Know.

[Anonymous No.3941613]

>>3914601
Lulzy and saved

[Anonymous No.3941617]

>>3915617
I think sega botched their ports out of spite or something

[Anonymous No.3941630]

>>3941529
Like we're so different.>>3941009

[Anonymous No.3942242]

Ecco was the eyyliums all along!!1!

[Anonymous No.3942275]

>>3942242
damn, really makes me think...

[Anonymous No.3942510]

>>3942242
Atlanteans were dolphins this whole time!

[Anonymous No.3943235]

>>3942242
>>3942510
You're blowing my mind man!

[Anonymous No.3943329]

I played these when I was like 8 - 10 years old. I don't think I ever beat the first one, but I did the second. It was such a cool game. I'd spend lots of time in school doodling images of the vortex, the flying dolphins from the future, the asterite, and (my favorite) Medusa the enormous flying red jellyfish - all over my worksheets for class, as the synthy music played in my head

[Anonymous No.3943632]

>>3943329
Neat.

[Anonymous No.3943652]

>>3941470
>You can also alter the music's tempo which is pretty fun.
>tfw Ecco created fucking vaporwave

Jesus is this what did it?

[Anonymous No.3943917]

Ecco is one of the most creative and intriguing game series I have ever played. Who comes up with this shit? What happened to the creative director for these games? Will we ever see a new entry in the series?

[Anonymous No.3943940]

>>3943652

Yes. This is the divergence in the timeline. It must be corrected, Anon. For all our sakes.

[Anonymous No.3944509]

>>3943940
Somebody needs to contact Ecco using esp.

[Anonymous No.3944643]

>>3943917
I made a shitty ecco 3 'game' in unity that I never finished. Didnt really have any gameplay other than moving and exploring. Basically LSD dream emulator but u play as a Dolphin or Raven like spirit animals n shit. I think Unreal Engine might be better for this type of game. Its up to us to create what does not exist. Ed tried kickstarter and Big Blue was a Big Blue piece of shit mobile education game. The problem for me is I am a shitty programmer and more of an artist but I do have ideas for a trippy dolphin game. I usually just steal shitty code examples from youtube vids is the extent of my programming knowledge.

[Anonymous No.3944731]

>>3944643
Excellent gif.
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.3944769]

>>3944731
some gay anime i dunno

[Anonymous No.3945476]

[Anonymous No.3945480]

>>3945476
FUCK U DOLFIN!

[Anonymous No.3946365]

>>3944643
Can you share the build from your Unity game ? I'm curious

[Anonymous No.3946419]

>When you stick the Sega CD games into a CD player

[Anonymous No.3946626]

>>3943652

[Anonymous No.3946925]

>>3946365
Not really worth sharing in its current state (shit controls). Its more of cruel joke on humanity and ED would probably hate it lol. I never bothered to finished it because im lazy as fuck and its an embarrassment. You are giving me some inspiration to make a new version tho.

[Anonymous No.3947329]

>>3946925
A E S T H E T I C

[Anonymous No.3947393]

>>3947329
The problem with aesthetics is they are only visual. Ecco the game is a great game because it has good gameplay and puzzles that activate your almonds.

[Anonymous No.3947396]

>>3947393
tfw literally not intelligent enough for ecco

[Anonymous No.3947497]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKR7MW0WPk
>ftw no Ecco game set on Saturn.

[Anonymous No.3947504]

>>3947497
>No ecco game set on Saturn on the sega saturn

[Anonymous No.3947750]

>>3913737
>they just don't even make games with animals as protagonists anymore

I'm really glad that I got to grow up through the golden age of gaming. I had ecco on Sega CD. I still listen to the soundtrack every week pretty much.

However, you should know that there's an actual SOUNDTRACK! Like an orchestral, more complex/jazzier version of all the songs. Look it up, it's called Sounds of Time.

[Anonymous No.3948142]

>>3947750
Back to plebbit you go

[Anonymous No.3948238]

>>3913454
awful game

[Anonymous No.3948240]

>>3948238
Literally underage

[Anonymous No.3948331]

>>3926010
He went back in time to be with the Atlanteans.

[Anonymous No.3948332]

Also can I just say how happy I am to see people talking about Ecco? Series means a ton to me.

[Anonymous No.3948465]

>>3948142
Fuck off with that /reddit/ shit.

We're taking about Ecco here.

[Anonymous No.3948467]

>>3948465
>Unironically says golden age of gaming
>I'm the one from reddit
ok kid

[Anonymous No.3948468]

>>3947750
>ECCO: Songs of Time

Great album!

[Anonymous No.3948471]

>>3948467
No, jackass, you're the one who brought up /reddit/ in a thread that has nothing to do with /reddit/.

You're the problem.

[Anonymous No.3948475]

>>3948471
Because le golden age of le gaming is reddit as fuck

[Anonymous No.3948476]

>>3948467
Looks like you brought up "plebbit" first. Not him, but just ignore shit you think is dumb. Trolling about other websites only ever leads to more shitposting.

No need for fighting, just friendly Ecco talk.

[Anonymous No.3948493]

Ok, correct me if Im wrong.
Morphspheres, or however those things that make you change into other animals, are parts of the Asterite.
I thought about it, and its basically the only thing that makes sense to me.
Where do we encounter them first? The future, where ocean is sentient. It would make sense for Asterite, the most ancient creature in the ocean to shed parts if itself in order to bring ocean creatures closer to each other.
Where do we later encounter the sphere? in present where you can turn into jellyfish. At this point tho, Asterite is already dead, sphere being just a part of its carcass.
Why would parts of Asterite work that way? Asterite is the most ancient creature of the ocean, probably most ancient creature on Earth. Meaning all life evolved from it.
And how does it look? Like DNA string. Not too farfetched that somehow he could change Eccos own DNA into something else, turning him into bird.
But only in the future Asterite was able to perfect the way to detach/regrow his balls, present Asterite couldn't, as seen in first Ecco. Present Asterite was able to make Ecco breathe under water and rapidly regenerate tho, so it would also take some time it could learn to modify one animals into others.

So, does it checks out?
Im only roughly halfway through Tides of Time.

[Anonymous No.3948510]

>>3948493
The metasphere's aren't parts of it but they were made by it.

As for other life evolving from it, the game isn't clear, but it's an interesting idea. It could well be that the Asterite is another alien being that came to earth billions of years ago and seeded the planet with life. It could also be that the Vortex seek out planets that Asterite beings have filled with life so they can harvest it. Which are neat ideas, but just conjecture unless one of us can kidnap Ed Annunziata and make him answer all our crazy questions.

[Anonymous No.3948738]

Which is the better game? Ecco the Dolphin or Ecco Tides of Time?

[Anonymous No.3948753]

>>3948738
Play them and see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.3949253]

>>3948753
I did, but it was years ago. I guess I liked Tides of Time slightly better, but I was never able to beat the first game because it was too hard.

[Anonymous No.3949362]

>>3943329
literally (You)

[Anonymous No.3949365]

>>3913454
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly

[Anonymous No.3950440]

>>3913460
kek

[Anonymous No.3952016]

>>3949253
True that.
Im halfway through ToT and having a great time, while the first caves in original Ecco made me abandon any subtlety and start savestating like a scumbag, trend that followed me through the whole first game.

[Anonymous No.3952528]

>>3952016
>having a great time
Water-way to have a good time!

[Anonymous No.3952882]

Whats the deal with magic arm?

[Anonymous No.3952908]

>no Defender of the Future HD

I realize it's not a DC game that people remember the most like Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure, or Jet Set Radio, but damn I think more people should play it and appreciate its cryptic goodness. And these graphics are just begging to be displayed in HD.

[Anonymous No.3953115]

90s>>Cocaine

[Anonymous No.3953116]

>>3952908
>And these graphics are just begging to be displayed in HD.
BRAAAAAAAP

[Anonymous No.3953124]

>>3953116
dumb fartposter

[Anonymous No.3953831]

I'm not a fan of the Sega CD music at all. It doesn't even sound like they are playing the same songs. It just sounds like generic ambient music to me; there are hardly any strong melodies like in the genesis versions

[Anonymous No.3953943]

Damn, those dark future levels in Tides of Time are pretty rough!

[Anonymous No.3953975]

>>3953943
Those aliems are mean sons of bitches

[Anonymous No.3955194]

>>3953831
They're not supposed to be the same songs. But I agree. They don't really convey the mood nearly as well.

[Anonymous No.3955850]

>>3953943
I remember raging so hard against this thing when I was about 8

[Anonymous No.3957387]

>>3953115
It was literally L.S.D. that inspired the creation of Ecco the Dolphin.

[Anonymous No.3957392]

>>3953116
>>3953124
>fartposter

Wrong. That's obviously just a dolphin posting blow hole noises.

[Anonymous No.3957394]

>>3928976
I fucking love you guys.

[Anonymous No.3957734]

>>3913454
>Redpill me on Ecco the Dolphin, /vr/.
The redpill is this: there is no redpill. It's time to take off your tin foil hat. Not everything is part of some vast conspiracy involving Pink Floyd, some drug-addled mad marine biologist, ancient aliens and Sega Genesis. Sometimes a game about time-traveling, space-faring dolphins saving the world is just that: a game.

Jokes aside though, wow, really interesting thread. How the fuck did you piece all this together OP? Or are you just parroting some video or something.

Is it fair to say Ecco has the deepest lore?

Get it, 'cause the ocean... is deep...

Anyway all this - the LCD connection, in particular - explains a lot. No wonder this seemed like such a strange game back then, even as a kid. Heck, especially as a kid.

[Anonymous No.3957747]

>>3957734
>there is no redpill
oy vey

[Anonymous No.3958151]

>>3957747
The Red Pill us in your mind!

[Anonymous No.3958160]

>>3926778
Problem with hardware recordings is depending on the genesis/mega drive model the audio quality changes

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?7796-GUIDE-Telling-apart-good-Genesis-1s-and-Genesis-2s-from-bad-ones

[Anonymous No.3958281]

>>3930575
Just the dolphin.

[Anonymous No.3958732]

>>3958281
The dolphins in your mind!

[Anonymous No.3958813]

>>3957734
>>3957747

I don't even get what kids mean when they say Red Pilled. I get that it's a Matrix reference, but the ways it gets carted around gets confusing. What exactly do they mean by Red Pill them on Ecco in the first place?

[Anonymous No.3958817]

>>3958813
pick it up from context clues

[Anonymous No.3958821]

>>3958817
My attempt at that lead me to the conclusion it's a bullshit phrase people use for whatever they want it to. Is that about right?

[Anonymous No.3959061]

>>3958281
>>3932420

[Anonymous No.3959071]

>>3958821

Congratulations: you've just discovered that 90% of 4chan is meaningless bullshit that people make up as they go along to win internet slapfights with people they will never meet.

Try not to stay too long, it's not healthy, ya hear?

[Anonymous No.3959714]

Like...Dolphins...man....

[Anonymous No.3959725]

>>3958813

I think they're using it as a "tell me the truth instead of the lies" as if that's even possible with a thing like a video game or movie or whatever other medium made for enjoyment.

"redpill me"

yeaaaah, I'm just gonna tell you why "thing" is the best/worst ever cuz of personal reasons.

[Anonymous No.3959730]

>>3959714
dont just like dolphins.

love dolphins.

[Anonymous No.3959827]

>>3915710
Is that even possible?

[Anonymous No.3959841]

>>3959827
anything is possible

[Anonymous No.3959879]

Are there any games where the world and the creatures that inhabit it feel as alien as in Ecco? Most games about aliens sure don't. I haven't played many underwater exploration games. Maybe that's where you should look?

The thing with Ecco is that, while the visuals and the music deserve their rightful credit for creating the atmosphere it has, I think other factors play an equal, maybe even greater, role. In Ecco, it seems as though your character and the NPCs he talks to really aren't just humans in a different skin. A good chunk of this is thanks to how the game uses language. The characters don't speak too much and when they do what they say sounds like something that might come out of Google Translate if it had a Dolphin-to-English mode. It really stands out this way.

One game that has a somewhat similar feel to me is Captain Blood, and that one also talks funny. The characters in Blood all speak in an artificial language made out of icons, and you have to reply to them by constructing sentences in this language, too.

[Anonymous No.3959925]

>>3915617
When I tried to play the PS2 version I just couldn't get over the controls. For some reason they felt just awful. I haven't played the DC one.

[Anonymous No.3959935]

>>3958813
In the movie it meant "show me the real truth", but now dummies on here essentially use to mean "sway my opinion for me".

[Anonymous No.3960003]

>>3943917
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Annunziata

[Anonymous No.3960014]

>>3946925
>>3944643
Whoa, does your game have a client-server architecture? You can't be that shitty of a programmer if you've figured out how to synchronize 3D game state over sockets.

You know what client/server feature would be totally rad to have in a new Ecco game? Random co-op like in Journey.

[Anonymous No.3960232]

>>3960003
Ed Annunziata

>Chakan: The Forever Man
>Ecco the Dolphin
>Ecco: The Tides of Time
>Ecco Jr.
>Vectorman
>Kolibri
>Mr. Bones
>Three Dirty Dwarves

Nice!

[Anonymous No.3960298]

>>3960014
I wanted to include some kind of chat feature since I always like chatting in online games. Its broken as fuck though and I never really figured out how to set up a server. I agree Ecco would be a perfect multiplier game and I like the way Journey did it. I will get back into it I've been far too lazy the past few months.

[Anonymous No.3960449]

Ecco threads are the best because you get to LARP as a hippie/90s neo-hippie as though you aren't under 30.

[Anonymous No.3960985]

>>3959935
>>3959725
>I think they're using it as a "tell me the truth instead of the lies" as if that's even possible with a thing like a video game or movie or whatever

Pretty much that's the confusion. That's the life of a meme in the 2010's I guess.

>>3959071
Nice tryhard, but I'm not leaving 4chan just because the lingo changes.

[Anonymous No.3960989]

>>3960298
>I agree Ecco would be a perfect multiplier game and I like the way Journey did it.

That could be interesting actually. I liked the core idea of Journey but thought the actual game they built around it was so boring it was painful.

[Anonymous No.3961494]

>>3932470

I'm kinda surprised people didn't know this. I feel like slme areas would ve much harder without it.

Doesn't work on the Vortex in the Queen's chamber though

[Anonymous No.3961503]

>>3938817

"I'm the Aesterite, I don't have to explain shit."

[Anonymous No.3961515]

>>3961494
Even if he used some save states it's damn impressive that guy beat it both without knowing about that or how to do charge sonar.

[Anonymous No.3961518]

>>3960989
Then again the sense of isolation is what sets the mood of the deep ocean.
>>3960449
Id rather LARP as a dolphin. I hate dirty stinky hippies.

[Anonymous No.3961530]

>>3961515
>some
Believe me, there were a lot more save states than 'some', a lot more.

[Anonymous No.3961541]

>>3944509
>>3948738

Honestly I like the original more for the challenge.

The game took me some 10 years of infrequent attemlts to beat, and then I beat ToT in a week. It felt a little flat in comparison.

ToT has the better visuals though.

[Anonymous No.3961545]

>>3961518
>Then again the sense of isolation is what sets the mood of the deep ocean.


But half the game is rescuing other dolphins and talking to whales, orcas, ancient sea DNA and shit.

[Anonymous No.3961550]

Hey, /v/r, what's your favorite Ecco track? this is my personal favorite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Wss9RHi_Q

[Anonymous No.3961556]

>>3959879

I agree that Ecco's writing is very solid and part of what sells the atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.3961583]

>>3961550

I always liked https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jyrGIgRC7NE for it's sort of plodding methodical beat. Perfect puzzle solving music.

I like https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q1uz7zzqLZk too. Dat theramin.

Honorable mention: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ApCt-PDTSig

I love how much this one sounds like a modern chip composition. Arpeggios everywhere.

[Anonymous No.3961584]

>>3961550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN-Qbjf43os&index=4&list=PLsW5CavePxO_YUKhVpfI1MbRFa2Fm8UO-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqcoEEQgwGw

[Anonymous No.3961591]

>>3961545
And yet you are alone in your quest.
Thats some next level shit right here.
From the moment Vortex struck, you are left alone, confused, scared and mourning your lost pod.
Its conveyed very well by both visuals and soundtrack, mainly soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.3962664]

Dolphins man!

[Anonymous No.3963580]

literally just now got mine in the post

what an odd game

[Anonymous No.3964326]

>>3963580
You're in for a wild ride. Enjoy!

[Anonymous No.3964354]

>>3963580
First one?

[Anonymous No.3964390]

>>3964354
ye

[Anonymous No.3964630]

ITT

[Anonymous No.3964935]

>>3913728
Psychedelics have actually been pretty important for scientific development. The inventor of PCR credits it to acid use.

[Anonymous No.3964958]

Any tips for playing these games? I want to love them but got annoyed by it's annoying puzzles

[Anonymous No.3965095]

>>3964958
>keep in mind where the nearest air source is and return there regularly to breathe
>move from one air source to another, sometimes old one stays behind one-way current, so use sonar to plan ahead
>you can replenish health by both sonaring shellfish and eating fishes by dashing through the swarm of them.
>You can pick boulders and blocks up by swimming down onto them from above and then swimming back up
>Dont rush. When low on air, you will sooner die by running into enemies in a hurry than an actual suffocation damage.
>Write down passwords.
>remember all your abilities and apply them to obstacles you meet
>when/if you are told to sonar while dashing, sonar while Ecco is 'charging' his dash

[Anonymous No.3965338]

>>3965095
Good advice. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3965773]

How's the windows version?

[Anonymous No.3965823]

>>3965773
the old one for win 95? probably shitty
http://web8.orcaserver.de/ecco/downloads/games/index.php

[Anonymous No.3967479]

>>3965773
>>3965823
I didn't even know there was one.

[Anonymous No.3967504]

>>3967479

[Anonymous No.3968342]

>>3967504
>how many levels of irony are you on
>like... maybe 5, or 6 right now my singer
>you are like a little calf
>watch this
>WELCOME TO THE MACHINE

[Anonymous No.3968528]

I've got to the part where you push down rocks to swim down and rescue dolphs

so far the game seems real chill
somehow more like some new age aesthetic interactive screensaver than just a game

I will push forward today

[Anonymous No.3969418]

>>3968342
Its not ironic to love dolphins, computers and ancient white culture.
>>3968528
DO IT you made it past eight arms

[Anonymous No.3970059]

Have you guys seen the beta version of Ecco 3?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h7vVkkru6OU

[Anonymous No.3970103]

>>3970059
far out. Do you think /an/ would like this thread?

[Anonymous No.3970116]

>>3960232
Ed must have really liked Lisa Frank. The 32x was very seductive to me as a kid.

[Anonymous No.3970348]

>>3970103
>this image proves that the dolphins and atlanteans are one and the same.

[Anonymous No.3970357]

>>3970116
Kolibri is an awesome game. You should play it of you haven't yet.

[Anonymous No.3970391]

>>3970357
I need to replay it on emulator. very beautiful game.
https://twitter.com/edannunziata/status/831159460320063488/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seganerds.com%2F2017%2F02%2F13%2Fed-annunziata-announces-kolibri-coloring-book%2F

[Anonymous No.3970789]

>mfw this thread

[Anonymous No.3971227]

>>3926010
honestly, that's pretty /lit/

[Anonymous No.3971234]

>>3926010
>What happened to him /vr/?

[Anonymous No.3971354]

>>3971234

Ecco 3/Ecco Mania fucking

WHEEEEEEEEEN?

[Anonymous No.3971832]

>>3970789
Its been fun
>>3971354
never ever

[Anonymous No.3972979]

>>3971234
Cool.

[Anonymous No.3973019]

>>3913454

>>3913454

Creator was obviously a big fan of things like Chariots of the Gods and John C. Lilly's work with dolphins.

Also, this game scares the shit out of me, even years later after I've beaten in tons of times. I can't even say that for fucking Silent Hill 2.

[Anonymous No.3973091]

>>3959730
dont just, like, like dolphins, man, like, love them, dude

[Anonymous No.3974089]

>>3973091
Woah!
...
Dolphins!

[Anonymous No.3974267]

I like.. like Dolphins and shit cuz they're like.. whoa.. trippy man. being all out in the ocean like that and shit.

[Anonymous No.3974285]

>>3974267
dude stop dolphinposting and save the earth from the evil votex queen.

[Anonymous No.3974287]

>>3974285
vortex*

ecco is the best dolphinvania

[Anonymous No.3974302]

>>3974287
Now, that I want to see.
Ecco game where you have to swim across the ocean multiple times, solving puzzles, doing fetchquests and learning new songs and abilities that let you progress further, all wrapped up in timespace continuum.

[Anonymous No.3974462]

>>3960232
>Chakan: The forever man

Whoa what?
That's really nice.

[Anonymous No.3974594]

>>3919278
The rocks look mostly identical, but the background is totally different.

[Anonymous No.3974680]

>always thought this game looked dumb
>thread
>yes red pill me plz
>aliens
>time travel
>ancient beings old as time
>wat

[Anonymous No.3974726]

>>3974680
Thats Ecco for you.
A dolphin-powered acid trip through time.

[Anonymous No.3974983]

When the fuck did people on 4chan start saying "redpill"
Since when are we copying memes from Reddit?

[Anonymous No.3975039]

>>3974983
As I understand, it spread from /pol/. Now, whether it started there or they got it from elsewhere, I don’t know.

[Anonymous No.3975118]

>>3974462
In before awesome Chakan thread please

[Anonymous No.3975130]

>>3975039
>Redpill started from /pol/
You have to be over 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.3975142]

>>3975130
Who gives a shit where it started from, nerd.

[Anonymous No.3975173]

>>3975142
>Here's where it came from
Actually you're wrong
>WHO CARES NERD LOL XD

[Anonymous No.3975180]

I was thinking about getting the defender of the future ps2 port, but there isn't a single one being sold in my country ;_;

[Anonymous No.3975213]

>>3975173
Oh my God who gives a shit who invented memes. Shove your useless internet knowledge up your ass, nerd.

[Anonymous No.3975220]

>>3975213
>Memes
now you are confirmed underage

[Anonymous No.3975238]

>>3975220
Whatever, nerd. Nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.3975369]

>>3975213
It started on men's right's sites but didn't become huge or common until theredpill dating advice subreddit was created and became popular.
So yeah it's from reddit. A dating advice subreddit.
That's why it's so sad to see people saying it anywhere else.

On topic though, I love how active the Ecco creator is on twitter. Looked like he got a dev kit recently maybe? EDEV KIT? Anyone know what it is?

https://twitter.com/edannunziata/status/860567475670335488

[Anonymous No.3975697]

>>3975369
>Anyone know what it is?
Switch devkit

[Anonymous No.3975924]

>>3975369
I've always found it ironic that they picked a movie written by two transexuals to base their terminology on considering how triggered the whole subject makes most of them.

>>3970357
Seconding this. Kolibri is a really fun little shooter and one of the best looking games of the day by far.

[Anonymous No.3976136]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLKjdW0y4U

[Anonymous No.3976169]

>>3975924
Because they don't care as much as you think they do, you dunce.

[Anonymous No.3976220]

>>3976169
I wish I could believe that but I've seen too many mra/pol meltdowns over acceptance of anything not heteronormative already.

[Anonymous No.3976395]

>>3969418
Only got to play again today. I'm past the part with the giant water vents, but I feel like I missed some shit. I saw a third trapped dolph when I exited the area and I feel like I could've reached it if I tried. Then again it did swim into the rock wall as I exited so maybe that was an indicator to follow

plus I can't have explored all the caves in there

What an odd game. The controls still feel strange and clumsy.

I've been trying to avoid all spoilers to preserve the weird alien atmosphere ecco exudes. It's like oddworld, but moreso.

[Anonymous No.3976407]

>>3976395
Controls take some practice because it's unlike anything else, but you'll get it. I highly recommend going back and saving all the dolphins. It's worth the effort.

[Anonymous No.3976473]

>>3976395
>not saving the dolphin

START OVER!

[Anonymous No.3976510]

>>3964958
Play the Sega CD version

The Genesis version is utter bullshit in it's design. Especially the final level

CD is superior in literally every single way imaginable.

[Anonymous No.3976516]

>>3976407
>>3976473
I did it! I think I got a new move out of it, but I can't tell if I'm doing it right. Both buttons at the same time, right?

also found a cute orca who told me not to drown and also that I can "sing" out a fuckin minimap. It hadn't dawned on me to try that. The game just got a good bit easier and I feel like a big retard. Was there something teaching me this earlier and I just missed it? I was in the verge of drawing a fucking map

Onwards and downwards! I'll beat this fucking fish game yet

[Anonymous No.3976526]

>>3976220
That's because they're easily triggered snowflakes who take this shit even more seriously than the people they hate. All while using terminology from a movie written by trans people, from a scene that can be an analog for trans experiences. It's really funny.
>>3976516
Most people figure it out just by doing it accidentally. For retro games, holding buttons down is often necessary to get the full effect of an action, so it's something I always try when playing a new game. I know that's how I figured it out as a kid. Mario jumping instincts kicked in.
Congrats on getting that far without a map, though. Sounds rough.

[Anonymous No.3976535]

>>3976510
>CD is superior in literally every single way imaginable.

Except that the music has no personal feel to it whatsoever, I mean the CD music sounds nice but its like Spencer Nilsen wrote it without having even seeing the game in action.

Memorable moments where this is painfully obvious:

>the moment Ecco travels back in time.
the music in the cartridge is ominous and creates this sense of danger since Ecco is out of his element and surrounded by creatures far more dangerous than those he normally encounters.
the music in the CD is just.. a Jurassic Luau party.

another moment, when Ecco saves his pod from the aliens.
Cartridge music has this fanfare feel to it, as in YOU FUCKING DID IT!! WE'RE ALL GETTING OUT AND FUCKING SOME DOLPHIN BITCHES!!

CD music is like : .. soft and relaxed.

I love the CD music, but the Cartridge music has a much more connected feel to it.

[Anonymous No.3976545]

>>3976526
I thought I had tried it, but I guess I hadn't

I wanna do a challenge run where I hold my breath every time Ecco does

[Anonymous No.3976549]

>>3976545
>I wanna do a challenge run where I hold my breath every time Ecco does

rip anon we hardly knew ye

[Anonymous No.3976649]

Can anyone recommend other non-horror games that NAIL the spooky/creepy/alien/isolated atmosphere the way Ecco does? The music and the art direction does a phenomenal job at making you feel uneasy.

Metroid is the only series that can match it.

[Anonymous No.3976661]

>>3976649
First 2 Oddworlds imo

[Anonymous No.3976694]

>>3976510
Too hard for babby?

[Anonymous No.3976740]

>>3976510
How do those versions differ?

[Anonymous No.3976743]

>>3976545
I remember someone back on GameFAQs telling a story about how he had a nightmare about the pufferfish that attack you. He said he couldn't get out of the room, and when they killed Ecco they faced him and started hitting against the TV screen. So he turned the TV off but they were still hitting against the screen, and he tried to get out of his room but the door was locked, and he woke up screaming when the TV screen shattered

[Anonymous No.3976753]

>>3976516
Try to dash, but as you coil-up use the sonar.

[Anonymous No.3976779]

>>3976661
Seconded

[Anonymous No.3976802]

>>3976516
I'm pretty sure the manual mentions how to use sonar to make a map, but glad you figured it out.

[Anonymous No.3976807]

>>3976740
See
>>3913737

[Anonymous No.3976808]

>>3976740
CD has mid-level save points so it's easier.

[Anonymous No.3976817]

>>3976753
Figured it out, but thanks

>>3976802
I only got the cart. Obviously I could look up the manual online but uh

I haven't

To keep these posts from being just a fucking blog:
Does the sequel hold up? I understand the 3D one was a little unfortunate

[Anonymous No.3976835]

>>3976817
Almost gone through 2/3 of Tides of Time.
Its way easier, but its still Ecco.
There are few things that seemed like a weird choice, and I dont feel even nearly as cornered and siced as I did playing first game, but in my opinion, its a good continuation of the first game.

[Anonymous No.3977042]

>>3976817

Ecco 2 holds up though the "improved" art style took a bit to get used to imo.

Didn't like the third one, it was very nice to look at but it reaked of outsourcing.
the original guy had nothing to do with it, so it ended up being its own thing with no relation to the Genesis games at all.

[Anonymous No.3977292]

>>3976743

That's horrifying

[Anonymous No.3977295]

>>3976817

Tides of Time is a great game but I don't feel as strong a connection to it because it was so much easier

Like, it's still not easy, the eel boss is a fucker. But it's nowhere near the level of somehow-charming bullshit that the first one is. I like the music and visuals though, and it's still a great game over all.

[Anonymous No.3977328]

>MFW I heard the original focus testing for the game suggested they should add divers and fishing boats as enemies

Thank god Ed shut them down. Would have ruined the whole damn thing.

[Anonymous No.3977354]

>>3977328
Thank goodness they didn't do this.
Adding humans to the game would have ruined it.
That would destroyed the sense of alienation in from he game.

[The Legend of Max No.3977359]

>>3977042

You could instantly tell that the 3rd game was going to suck as soon as you saw how it handled the shark in the first level. Suddenly you have to LITERALLY go through all these hoops to deal with it, instead of just skullbashing the motherfucker

[Anonymous No.3977360]

>>3913454
Shit gay dolphin game that mega drive owners pretend is edgy because the last level has an alien. Fucking faggots

[Anonymous No.3977361]

>>3977295
>>3976835
Is ToT really easier? or does it seem easy cause you beat Ecco 1?

[Anonymous No.3977368]

>>3977359
>instead of just skullbashing the motherfucker

That's how dolphins do it IRL.

[Anonymous No.3977370]

>>3977361
It's easier. Not easy.
Ecco 1 is a motherfucker. Ecco 2 is just kind of an ass.

[Anonymous No.3977385]

>>3977354

Focus groups are Satan

Take a bunch of chucklefucks who don't care about your product and give them and inflated sense of self worth then ask them if they know how to art better than an artist.

[Anonymous No.3977387]

>>3977361

It's much easier. Ecco 1 took me years to beat, and when I finally did it it wasn't because I had some kind of magical skill breakthrough; at that point I had the Machine down to muscle memory and could kill every enemy before it even showed up on screen and I still couldn't beat it until I got a lucky break. Then I went and beat ToT in like a week.

It's not an easy game but when you're accustomed to hell itself running through a burning building just feels refreshing, you dig?

[Anonymous No.3978257]

>>3977387
Cool.

[Anonymous No.3978439]

>>3976817
>I understand the 3D one was a little unfortunate

I think it's still quite good, but it's very different. I would recommend trying it for yourself and deciding.

[Anonymous No.3978574]

the songs of the sea tell tales of great fuckness where theres these fucking crabs fuck shit dick piss

[Anonymous No.3978883]

>>3978574

Crabs are the assholes of the sea

[Anonymous No.3980336]

>>3978883
Truth

[Anonymous No.3981012]

Swim slowly past eight arms


It's been said in thread already, but I don't know of any other game that gives a better nonhuman experience

This game is a art

[Anonymous No.3981042]

>>3981012
It's unique and wonderful. Ecco wasn't always as loved around here, the appreciation it's getting swells my heart.

[Anonymous No.3981051]

>>3976220
hetero is normal. Anything else is a deviation and pretending the deviations are normal is delusional.

[Anonymous No.3981096]

Holy shit this thread is still up

I'm almost at the big blue you guys! I can see him on the minimap I think. Just gotta make it out of the starter area. I think I have to break the ice or something, but I'm not sure. Nobody tell me

The second I saw the ice levels I thought "Great! No more crabs"
Fuck me

[Anonymous No.3981103]

Ecco art to make up for the fucking blogging

I downloaded a pdf of the manual to see if there was anything basic I was still missing. I noticed at the end there are recommendations for books about dolphins. I found that just so pure and tremendous

[Anonymous No.3981193]

>>3981096
>The second I saw the ice levels I thought "Great! No more crabs"

[Anonymous No.3981285]

>>3981096
Ohh you poor thing! Ice crabs will fuck you hard. But iirc there aren't any in the next couple of areas. Enjoy one of the biggest sprites in retro gaming!

We should start a new thread, I want to keep hearing your updates.

[Anonymous No.3981373]

>>3981193
The ocean is a dark, cold, hostile universe all of it's own, full of horrors we are fortunate to never witness. Our ships sail and we dip just below the surface only because we are not significant enough to hate.


>3981285
Aw, thanks! I was worried folks would view me as just shitting up the thread
I would

why a new one? Is this one already sinking?

[Anonymous No.3981378]

>>3981373
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.3981391]

>>3981373
Once it reaches 500 replies it's in autosage mode and will 404 in a couple of days. A based mod went through and cleared out some troll posts though which has given it a bit more life.

Hearing tales of someone playing through it for the fist time is pretty wonderful. I'm obsessed with this game though.

[Anonymous No.3981418]

This was a good thread. We should do it again sometime.

[Anonymous No.3981428]

Now that was a big fuckin sprite. Drowned a couple times just swimming around looking at it

>>3981391
I'm the same way about Star Control 2. Guess I'll pop in every now and then just for you <3

Unless I get banned for offtopic for it or something

2 questions to jog the thread along a lil bit

If I complete a midpoint objective like saving all the dolphins and then die, do I keep the rewards? I noticed the password changing, but I didn't wanna risk it and redid everything every time anyway.

Are there other /vr/ where you dive balls first into the creepy deep sea? I kinda love this setting, but can't think of any

[Anonymous No.3981447]

>>3981428
I think level resets every time you die, so you would have to save the dolphins, get reward and finish the level.

As for other games, dunno.
Subculture is a maybe, but it doesn't quite fit what you want I think.

[Anonymous No.3981525]

>>3981391

This.

I love this game, and I love hearing about people's first experiences with it.

[Anonymous No.3981532]

>>3981428

All the games I can think of that are remotely similar to Ecco aren't /vr/.

[Anonymous No.3981592]

I found a gem that tells me to find the big blue

...on the level just after the big blue

It's one of those you can "kill" when you're loaded with gem power. It's not even blocking anything. I wonder if it's actually supposed to tell me something vital

[Anonymous No.3981712]

>>3981592
Isnt it blocking the exit?

[Anonymous No.3981784]

>>3981712
Na mane. Just floating alone in it's own little "room"

I think it's supposed to impart some sea wisdom on me but the game is buggy

[Anonymous No.3983493]

>>3916381
Not him, but who doesn't want to fuck some nice dolphin pussy?

[Anonymous No.3983503]

>>3983493
This is honestly a very good argument