s-video

[Anonymous No.3911409]

Anyone here use s-video connections with their older consoles? Do you find it's actually a substantial improvement over composite?

I'm referring to NTSC gaming, of course. I'm not sure what types of video connections they use in various parts of Europe.

[Anonymous No.3911413]

Yes, it is. The quality boost from composite to S-Video is much greater than from S-Video to RGB/YPbPr.

[Anonymous No.3911418]

>>3911413
If you have a good s-video cable, that is.
Those combined s-video/composite cables have problems.

[Anonymous No.3911424]

>>3911413
>>3911418
these

>>3911409
>I'm not sure what types of video connections they use in various parts of Europe.
it's called SCART and the de facto standard for RGB quality in retro vidya

[Anonymous No.3911426]

S-video PSX is amazing.

[Anonymous No.3911441]

>>3911409
I bought S-Video cables for my PS2 and the difference between it and composite is night and day. PS1 games look crisp as fuck on my CRT and PS2 games look a lot clearer. I've been meaning to get S-Video cables for my Wii since that's what I play most of my retro games on (it's currently hooked up to both my CRT and HDTV via composite and component respectively, my CRT only goes up to S-Video).

[Anonymous No.3911547]

>>3911413
Honestly came into the thread to say this.

The one issue with SVideo is that many TVs don't support it or phased it out for component video which isn't supported by any /vr/ console (aside from the Guncon adaptor + Sony component cables on PS1).

[Anonymous No.3911564]

>>3911409
S-video is great!

Until you have played the game using Component. Should you play it again using S-video afterwards, you will wonder why the colors are so dull and everything seems slightly less focused...

Component is amazing!

Until you have played a game in RGB with proper white balance. Should you play it again in Component, you will wonder why the backgrounds are so dark and the color-shading seems off...

[Anonymous No.3911587]

>>3911547
>Guncon adaptor + Sony component cables on PS1

But that's RGBcvS (or Sync on Luma if you swap pins 5 and 6) not YPbPr component.

[Anonymous No.3911591]

>>3911441
Recently(and finally) tuned my Wii for homebrew, and have it hooked into a 20" Trinitron via Component.

Holy balls emulation shouldn't look this good.
It's like a work of art.
Thinking about buying a spare Wii to have one in case my current one dies.

[Anonymous No.3912009]

Can someone recommend me a good S-video cable for Nintendo consoles up to game cube?
I all find in my city are shitty ones

[Anonymous No.3912032]

Just add an s video jack to the back. Then you can run a good quality a vid call me on its own.

[Anonymous No.3912048]

>>3912009
Either the official Nintendo SNES one (SNES, N64 and GCN all use the same multi-AV port), or this guy's cables:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-NINTENDO-S-VIDEO-HIGH-PERFORMANCE-SHIELDED-GROUNDED-SNES-PAL-SVIDEO-NEW/172525334000

If you're electrically inclined, you can also roll your own.

[Anonymous No.3912061]

>>3912048
Should have mentioned that I have NTSC
But found this on his other items on sale
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-GameCube-SNES-N64-NTSC-audio-video-composite-cable-HIGH-PERFORMANCE-NEW/172525308885

[Anonymous No.3912065]

>>3911587
Yes but it's still the only way to actually utilize component cables with a /vr/ system. Especially for Americans, S-video is the best picture you'll get on stock systems with consumer TVs, which was my point

[Anonymous No.3912071]

>>3912048
What I'm not sure is why he sells cables advertised for one console when he sells >>3912061 cheaper and that work for all consoles

[Anonymous No.3912147]

>>3911591
Now's definitely the time to do so. Check your local listings, I often see single systems going for $30 or less.

[Anonymous No.3912159]

>>3912147
>I often see single systems going for $30 or less.
And to think scalpers were charging $700+ in 06 when the goddamn thing came out.

[Anonymous No.3912221]

>>3912071
Because the cheaper cable is composite aka red white yellow. Not sure why the S-video one only mentions SNES tho

>>3912147
This, a Wii with component cables + retroarch + classic controllers or those NES mini bootlegs joypads can be the perfect emulation box and it can all be had for cheap

[Anonymous No.3912226]

S-video is awesome, I use it for everything. Got s-video cables for my PS2, Saturn, SNES/N64, and Wii.

[Anonymous No.3912236]

>>3912221
Oh shit I'm retarded, maybe I confused it with another one that is multi consoles
Man I need to check my eyes

[Anonymous No.3912237]

>>3911591
Did the same
Its fuckin good

[Anonymous No.3912242]

>>3911591
Happen to have a link to the component cables you used, by the way? I have a set that works with flat panels but won't work with my Trinitrons.

[Anonymous No.3912246]

>>3911547
Had this happen to me, I own a CRT with component and decided to get s-video for my 64, then when the cables arrived realised it didn't have the s-video port. Luckily one of the lcds in the house did, huge improvement in sharpness, text became readable, I'd say it's the way to go

[Anonymous No.3912258]

>>3912242
Official Nintendo ones I bought with the Wii.
I learned from my mistake with the GC.

Bought from circuit city. RIPes.

[Anonymous No.3912264]

>>3912258
>>3912242
Just looked up the official cables. Fucking things cost more than the console itself.
Christ, WHAT? Capitalism you silly cunt. wtf r u doin?

[Anonymous No.3912267]

I love s-video. Composite is fucking awful and anything higher is too clean.

[Anonymous No.3912272]

>>3912264
Nintendo only ever did small runs of them.

You can roll your own though, they're completely passive.

[Anonymous No.3912285]

>>3912264
Blame Nintendo, they always do this scarcity shit

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.3912293]

>>3911413
fpbp

[Anonymous No.3912296]

>>3912242
www.ebay.com/itm/162291608819

These are the component cables I use with my Wii, works fine on SD and HD crts.

[Anonymous No.3912302]

>>3912293
kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.3912354]

>>3912264
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5689

Literally 3 dollars from Monoprice.

[Anonymous No.3912359]

>>3912264
Are you talking about Wii or GC cables? Because last time I checked Wii cables were under $20.

[Anonymous No.3912439]

>>3912354
I meant the official Nintendo cables.

[Anonymous No.3912449]

>>3912359
Both.
From where I am, new cables are running $40+ a set.
Wouldn't trust used cables. People are assholes to their electronics.

[Anonymous No.3912453]

Does anyone use an RGB Scart to component converter box?

[Anonymous No.3912582]

n64 on s video. the bigger your screen is the more noticeable the difference, especially with 2-D elements.

[Anonymous No.3912674]

>>3911409
I use s-video on my n64 because I can't be assed to mod RGB into it. SNES also has extremely sharp s-video, the jump from that to RGB is actually really small and isn't worth the extra cost for me.
What's really gay though is that the Genesis can't do native s-video when its composite signal is fucking garbage to the point that it can cause eye strain.

[Anonymous No.3912689]

>>3912582
>the bigger your screen is the more noticeable the difference
This is true, but even on small displays you can see a marked difference in quality between composite and s-video.

[Anonymous No.3913310]

I just tried an s-video cable with my GameCube. The image is much more clear. I had noticed some pixel bleeding with a specific game over a composite connection on my LCD TV. With the s-video connection, the bleeding is gone, and the image almost resembles digital-quality with pixel-perfect scaling. Kind of hard to believe.

There may not be any need to overpay for GC component cables since I can't imagine there being much capacity for improvement over s-video.

[Anonymous No.3913338]

>>3912453
I picked up a hdmi box and was not impressed

[Anonymous No.3913339]

>>3913310
Component cables come in real handy when trying to play on an HDTV, thankfully the Wii's cables are way cheaper and the system has 100% compatibility with GCN library. Supposedly the image quality is slightly worse than using the original GCN cables but not paying out the ass more than makes up for it.

[Anonymous No.3913408]

>>3913339
>>3913310
Metroid Prime and Sin & Pun over component/hd is improved as you get more screen area to work with. But S-Video should be just about as good as component for emulation. Just as sharp, but with slightly less color resolution. Which might be a good thing for many games, as some games I've found are REALLY hardcore harsh in colors over RGB/Y-Pb-Pr.

[Anonymous No.3914240]

Did black&white consumer TVs ever have composite or was B&W composite only on computer monitors?

[Anonymous No.3914251]

>>3914240

I really don't think so. I was born after color television was invented, but I was poor enough to have owned a few older television sets growing up. They used RF connectors exclusively. Some of them even required the RF connectors to be applied with a screwdriver.

[Anonymous No.3914338]

>>3914251
I still have an old ass tube like that(color) in the garage.
Dials and all. Has no other input but RF.

[Anonymous No.3914354]

>>3914251
IT'S AN EAR WIG KILL IT
I grew up with those things too.
I remember jamming those prongs into the coaxial socket to get a tv signal because our antenna was broken.
I never want to go back to those times.

[Anonymous No.3915317]

As long as we're talking about cables, I'm looking for a PS3 component cable to use with my PS2. Official sony ones are stupid expensive, so I'm wondering if there's a particular, decent off-brand to look out for, or does it truly not matter?

[Anonymous No.3915325]

Yes, it's a huge improvement over composite, and not much worse than RGB if you don't want to go through all the hassle.

[Anonymous No.3915663]

>>3915317
>Official sony ones are stupid expensive, so I'm wondering if there's a particular, decent off-brand to look out for, or does it truly not matter?

Third-party brands like Pelican or MadCatz are usually decent quality. Ultra-cheap, no-name cables sold by Chinese eBayers would probably be the only thing to avoid. I have a no-name set that I use with my PS2, and while the image is crisp, the colors occasionally fuck up when I power on the console sometimes. Resetting the console fixes it. (I suspect this has to do with the quality of the cables, but it may very well be an issue with my PS2.)

[Anonymous No.3915895]

>>3915663
I ended up getting a Tomee brand one by virtue of it being the only one my local shop was carrying .It seems fine. The system connector was snug.

[Anonymous No.3915980]

Use S-video on
SNES
64
3DO
DC
PS1

Needed on dc and ps1, snes was the least improved but still very noticeable, have component on ps2 and tested it with s-video and component on ps1 games and only black level and color intensity seemed to be any different. detail appeared the same on my consumer tv.

PS1, FF Chronicles, s-video, regular tv.

[Anonymous No.3915990]

>>3915980
Component output on the PS2 is shit though. Not surprised you didn't see much improvement over Y/C.

You should give RGB with Sync on Luma a go. That'll change your outlook for sure.

[Anonymous No.3916278]

if one of those pins were to break off, is there any way to repair it?

[Anonymous No.3916286]

S-video is probably the most significant jump in quality for old consoles, and lots of consumer TVS and AV equipment supports it. I wish it was more popular but I guess 500 dollar 14 inch tvs and 50 dollar rgb cables with modded consoles is the meme nowadays.

[Anonymous No.3916296]

As a guy in Europe who always had SCART RBG cables by default with consoles, and who had TVs with only SCART inputs and no RCA composite to be found, I tend to find this thread weirdly amusing.

[Anonymous No.3916309]

>>3915980
Is it fucked I knew what your pic was of instantly?

[Anonymous No.3916329]

>>3916296
As a guy in America who didn't have a say in our video standards, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3916336]

>>3916329
That's not how you do it. Watch.

>>3916296
As a guy in America...
>probotector
>hero turtles
Rof L. Mao

[Anonymous No.3916356]

>>3916286
S-video is certainly the best bang-for-your-buck in terms of video quality, but RGB on a high-quality display is no meme. Sure, given the cost and hassle it definitely isn't for everyone, and on a cheaper consumer CRT you might not even notice the difference. But on my setup RGB made a bigger difference than I was expecting.

But at the end of the day, playing the games however you can is what's important. Use whatever's available to you and have fun.

[Anonymous No.3916363]

>>3916356
When I'm in these thread I often wonder: How did we ever tolerate SNES over RF into a 20" Sanyo?

Answer: We weren't assholes back then.
The internet fucks everything up.

[Anonymous No.3916369]

>>3916363
PC CRTs were always connected through high quality vga/rgb though.

[Anonymous No.3916372]

>>3916369
I didn't have a PC until 1997 though, and it was shit. Doom-capable but, not something I could run SNES titles on.
When/where I grew up, PC monitors weren't TVs. The two were completely separate devices. Never crossing.

[Anonymous No.3916375]

>>3916363
I remember when I was like 10 years old, pestering my parents into getting a S-video switch so I could connect both my SNES and their VCR into our new TV using S-video.

I was born an asshole, I guess.

[Anonymous No.3916395]

>>3916375
But you weren't doing it for the same asshole autist reasons we do it here.
You just wanted to get the AWESOME HIGH TECH input. I might have done the same, but all my TVs up until my first(personally bought Trini) were either composite or RF.
My Trinitron has an S-vid and component input. 20' tube.
Got the wii going into it via Y-R-B, and holy damn is she gorgeous.

I grew up with paycheck-to-paycheck parents. But, I made do just fine.
Renting was how I played most shit. Went NES-SNES-PSX-PS2+GC.

[Anonymous No.3916410]

>>3916395
Nah, I was definitely doing it out of autism even back then. I remember specifically looking at the Super Metroid title screen and marveling at the difference S-video made. There was no going back for me after that.

I'm one of the few who actually bought a GameCube component cable back in the day, too.

[Anonymous No.3916414]

>>3916363

Just 10 years ago I had every console Sega made daisy chained through RF into an old brandless TV that only took RF that I got from my grandfather. I never had any complaints about the picture quality, either. Now I just use PVMs and wish that I never discovered all of this stuff because I was happier back before I knew about or cared about picture quality.

[Anonymous No.3916417]

>>3914240
They all have composite internally at some point, coming out of the tuner. I was considering fixing the tuner on this one, but it seemed pointless seeing as it would only work with an RF modulator which has a composite input anyway

[Anonymous No.3916432]

>>3916410
>I'm one of the few who actually bought a GameCube component cable back in the day, too.
Good choice.
Metroid Prime in Prog-Scan is glorious. I missed the boat of the GC, but made sure to get YBR on Wii when I bought the system.
Makes Prime loom awesome in HD, makes my homebrew emulation look wonderful on my trinitron.

Overall, I would rather SD had been taken to the max with component than have what we all have now with HD video, which feels lacking in soul to me.

I don't watch TV anymore, baring a few shows a year, so using a standard def set for games is fine now. I can emulate using the wii over component, and play PS2/ext also over component. Got 5.1 sound. Perfect setup to me.

And modern games, baring the 3SD, are ass. So I can ignore the new shit entirely. I'd rather play ALttP over YRB on a 20" tube.
The greatest game ever made(imo) at its finest display.

[Anonymous No.3916440]

>>3916432
*loom
*3DS
*YBR

On my 5th Yuengling, sorry.

[Anonymous No.3916468]

>>3916440
*look

YOU STUPID DRUNK SHIT

[Anonymous No.3916703]

>>3916432
3DS has DLC shit fuck that