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The Roland creator died today. Let's post retro vidya music that uses Roland sound fonts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENffVeJzsM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXxGQP0a9Cs

>> No.3899773

Literally who?

>> No.3899778

>>3899773
You're on a board for 80s and 90s video games and you've never heard of Roland? I can assure you that 90% of the games you played that used any sort of sample-based soundtrack had Roland samples in them.

>> No.3899781

>>3899778
Not that guy, but I've never heard of it, either.

>> No.3899790
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>>3899781
>>3899773
Roland is one of the biggest names on the keyboard market, on par with Yamaha. Their PCM synths, in particular the Sound Canvas, is what musicians used to make the MIDI tunes of old PC games (the ones that had anything more sophisticated than adlib music, anyway).

>> No.3899791

>>3899765

Should have made an MT-32 thread.

>> No.3899792
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>>3899781
With all the people who love retro video game music, I'd have thought more of them would be aware of the sound sources they used. But I'm a big synthesizer/sampler fan, so maybe it's just me.

Here's a scene from a 1996 Capcom video where you can see a Roland U-110 in the background. That particular module was very heavily used in Super Street Fighter II's soundtrack.

>> No.3899796

>>3899791
SC-55 is compatible with MT-32 instruments.

>> No.3899802

I never realized Roland was a Japanese company. Always thought they were American or something.

>> No.3899804
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3899804

I bought an SC-88ST Pro in 1999 I think it was, for eroge and to listen to MIDI files people made for it and uploaded to their personal websites

>> No.3899812

>>3899773
>>3899781
I'm not a music production enthusiast, don't listen to video game music outside of playing games, don't listen to chiptunes or electronic music at all really, and have never owned prosumer music production hardware or even a musical instrument.
But I know Roland as one of the most famous brands of keyboards and drum machines, along with Yamaha and Korg I guess.
If you've ever seen a music video, a live musical performance, even just watched Saturday Night Live, you've probably seen a keyboardist standing behind a machine with one of those brand names.

My point is that this is actually very well known stuff in the sphere of cultural common knowledge. There's even a movie about the very famous TR-808 drum machine:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2268622/

>> No.3899813

>>3899773
>>3899781
If you ever played DOS games, in the config menu a Roland MIDI system was probably the top-tier audio option. The stuff you kids dreamed about in their super computer that played Doom without chugging.

>> No.3899817

>>3899804
Which eroge take advantage of an SC-88???

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>>3899804
Only one I remember for sure that had SC-88 data was With You, but I think some other Windows games did, probably other F&C titles. Others were just GM or GS. I'm don't know if any actually used Pro functions, but I wanted a Pro for MIDI files people were putting up on the net.

>> No.3899853

>>3899852
meant for >>3899817

>> No.3900270

>>3899813
>If you ever played DOS games, in the config menu a Roland MIDI system

no. 95% of dos pc's had a soundblaster or compatable soundcard which always used a yamaha synth chip for midi. Not roland. Very little if any consumer sound cards outside of dedicated pro audio gear used roland hardware at the time.

>> No.3900397

>>3899765
The one redeeming feature of Sierra adventure games was the MT-32 soundtracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19r6RnReAf4

>> No.3900406

>>3900397
dam, that is sexy

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>>3900270
>*snort*

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>>3899765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW0KsOZEj2M

>> No.3900505

>>3900457

you realise thats just selecting the compatability mode for midi playback right?

You were still running it through yamaha hardware.

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>>3900505
*snort*

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3900531

>tfw no good D-50 VST

Korg is a lot more generous with their retro synths.

>> No.3901187

>>3900531
I wish there were more VST recreations of old synths in general. I have the Korg Legacy Digital and Sound Canvas VA, would like to see more along those lines.

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I always did the menu trick and selected Roland LA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvrofvWSxNs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7LBOzrrdKE

>> No.3901931

>>3899773
this desu

>> No.3902881
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>>3899765
Fuck! I recently decided to eBay purchase a 486DX4 as self punishment for throwing out my old 486DX4 machine that I kept until 2007. That was my DOS machine, but I had thought DOSbox was good enough so to lighten the load when moving. Just about a week ago I had the crazy thought to get a Roland MT-32 to pair with a SoundBlaster (haven't decided original, 16, AWE32, AWE64, or Gravis Ultrasound) because they look fucking cool, pretty modern looking, and sound really good from youtube samples.

Just a few days ago LGR released a video on the MT-32 and now the creator died ... probably causing the expected spike in eBay price.

Last one I was going to purchase through "Buy It Now" but wanted to wait for my next paycheck, but some fucker decided to bid the bare minimum, and the thing ended out more expensive than the BIN price. I hate my burger flipping job.

Anyway, one of the primary reasons I am redoing my 486 build is because I do enjoy Princess Maker 2 for DOS. So here's the retro vidya music in SC-55 which also looks very cool and sounds nice, but I am not sure it sounds as good as the MT-32 to me in subtle ways:
https://youtu.be/z7ZWKlMWbsw


I also haven't decided on a video card yet either, I am open to suggestions on what I should get (including aforementioned sound card.

>> No.3903109

Bump for more MIDI music.

>> No.3903139

>>3899773
Are you 12 or just ignorant?

>> No.3903556 [DELETED] 

>>3899773
>>3901931
>>3899781
>>3900270
t. console-only babbies.

>> No.3903797

>>3899765
F

>> No.3903802

>>3899792
>With all the people who love retro video game music, I'd have thought more of them would be aware of the sound sources they used
Im not surprised seeing as theres so many retro artists who make anything past the NES sound like shit because of YAMAHA

>> No.3903838

>>3903556
Console games (and arcade games, too) used Roland samples, even if the game itself wasn't actually using Roland hardware.

>> No.3903862

This guy was also part of the team who helped create MIDI and is basically the grandfather of all modern music and is one of the reasons all of your videogames had sick compositions because artists could use MIDI controllers for composing.
So even if you dont care about a roland drum machine or anything (which you should because it had a colossal influence in music) , this dude is still hugely important.
Rest in peace my dude, the grandfather of all modern musical technology.

>> No.3904019

>>3903838
Any examples? I'd like to hear them.

>> No.3904081 [DELETED] 

>>3903838
I like how I just got warned for making fun of console-only players who never heard of the Roland MT-32 (despite being a common sound option in various Western and Japanese PC games back in the early 90's), even though worse things have been kept here for days without repercussion.

>> No.3904096

>>3904019
Chrono Trigger is one of the more memorable ones on the snes.

>> No.3904116 [DELETED] 

>>3904081
>makes low quality post
>surprised when it's punished for it

>> No.3904215

Crazy to think he was around for so long.

>>3904019
Falcom switched to MIDI sequencing for their games around 1994 (they still did FM-synth music for a while) and used Roland sound modules, like the SC-55, for Popful Mail SFC and Ys V (and maybe Legend of Xanadu I & II):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otgfJJdRGGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RWA6EhgFps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CmLT-Cr24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3xtR_dz4IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ggRnX7-4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNsQfeUh5L8

Notice the overdrive guitar sample in the first track. I wonder if and when someone will acquire the Windows Ys multimedia collections so we can look at pre-production materials about their MIDI works. Also, Motoi Sakuraba used Roland kits for his console works through the Golden Sun duo on GBA, too.

>> No.3904223 [DELETED] 

>>3904116
I am surprised when this same board had a Brianna Wu thread active for days not long ago.

>> No.3904226 [DELETED] 

>>3904223
Did you even bother using the report button?

>> No.3904236 [DELETED] 

>>3899773
This lmao
Look at these underage people actually acting like they know anything about him.

>> No.3904273 [DELETED] 

>>3904116
Can't have offensive posts on MY /vr/ safespace, no sir. If you wanna be an asshole, 4chan isn't the place for that.

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>>3904273

>> No.3904279 [DELETED] 

>>3904274
>too dumb to get sarcasm
>saves Manchildbob images

When did /vr/ get so shit?

>> No.3904616 [DELETED] 

>>3904226
I did and so did a bunch of other users as a matter of fact. People even complained about it in the very thread that the thread was still up days after it was first posted.

>> No.3904630 [DELETED] 

>>3904616
Well, what d'you expect. 4chan is pretty libcucked if the whole gamergate thing didn't make that obvious enough.

>> No.3904636 [DELETED] 

Don't, not even ironically.

>>3904616
Sadly, even this board's mods are prone to slipping up it seems.

>> No.3904641 [DELETED] 

>>3904636
Don't what?

>> No.3904642 [DELETED] 

>>3904641
Respond to shitters.

>> No.3904646 [DELETED] 

>>3904642
Telling the truth about this place is being a shitter now?

>> No.3904657 [DELETED] 

>>3904630
8ch@n is back up, I suggest you fuck off back to there.

>> No.3904746

/pol/ and /v/ literally do ruin everything they touch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tykAn_7aRP4

IIRC Doom's soundtrack was composed on an SC-55.

>> No.3904789

Is there a way to know which music was made with Roland sound fonts?

>> No.3904860

>>3904789
Interviews with composers, I guess.

>> No.3904956

Was The Secret of Monkey Island intro made with Roland fonts?

>> No.3905272

Wow, the janny sure went to town on this thread.

>> No.3905331

Here's a collection of high-quality recordings of 90's PC game soundtracks from a real SC-55, intended to be used with source ports but you can listen to them by themselves if you want.

http://sc55.duke4.net/

>> No.3905369

yeah yeah roland midi that's great whatever.

but can he do THIS?
https://youtu.be/HOh6qG4iT48?t=66

YAMAHA 4 LYFE

>> No.3905982

The sad thing is that if this thread was on /mu/ it would get even less replies then here.

>> No.3906089

>>3905982
Is it that shitty there?

>> No.3906123

>>3904019
I think everything Uematsu did from FF6 to FF10 used SC-55 and SC-88 samples, along with sounds from other romplers

This thread on kvr is a goldmine
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=393325

I got into this stuff a couple of years ago, bought an SC-55, XV-5050 and Orchestral SRX and a Wavestation (amongst other things) cause I wanted to go full autist and try to source a bunch of sounds, but I never ended up doing it, only got around to writing a couple of vaguely FF sounding tunes

>> No.3906126

>>3906089
yes

>> No.3906129

>>3901187
there are lots, but korg is one of the only major synth companies who is interested in making VST recreations of their own retro synths

look up d-16 group, U-HE, Arturia, etc

>> No.3906316

>>3905369
>Posts video of someone playing a midi controlled keytar
lmao

>> No.3906327

>>3906316
>thats_the_joke.jpg

>> No.3906363

>>3906316
That's a Yamaha CS01 in the video. It's not just a cheap MIDI controller, it's an independent synthesizer. And it's fucking rad.

>> No.3906387

>>3899853
not roland but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PFXBiHUj04

>> No.3906503

>>3906387
that's yamaha you mong!!!

>> No.3906527

So, Roland is mostly a western PC thing? Or was it used for consoles and arcade cabs too?

>> No.3907789

>>3906363
You right, my bad. I was unfamiliar with it and just thought it was MIDI based one. Yamaha makes good shit though.
>>3906327
>I was merely pretending
clearly it wasnt if I was wrong and it isnt MIDI anyways.

>> No.3907798

>>3906527
The MT-32 was supported by many PC-9801 and X68000 games, as well as a few late MSX games. Final Fight and Dracula on X68k comes to mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MT-32-compatible_computer_games#MSX

>> No.3908631

>>3905369
IIRC this band was bankrolled by Yamaha and was basically used as a walking advertisement for Yamaha gear. No disrespect intended--these ladies rocked the fuck out.

Roland was amazing but I always felt like their Sound Canvas stuff existed in a musical uncanny valley. It sounds like real instruments, but it's not quite realistic enough and seems weird.

I like the more overtly synthetic sound of Yamaha chips, like all those classic late 80s arcade games.

>> No.3909224

>>3906089
Yes.

>> No.3909236

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDvEEWeGyQU

>> No.3911056

>>3899765
I always loved roland midi above all