Is PSX the ugliest console of all time?

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Anonymous Fri Mar 31 07:29:12 2017 No.3894301 [Reply] [Original]

Is PSX the ugliest console of all time?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 07:30:49 2017 No.3894304 File: 42 KB, 500x311, tombraider.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894301 ugh. literally eye cancer.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 07:45:11 2017 No.3894319
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I was playing Mega Man Legends for the first time last night and thought it looked great. Also beat Kagero Deception II recently and all the different models for the people you kill looked cool and varied. Definitely not the ugliest console, that's for sure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 07:47:11 2017 No.3894321 Shit thread but obviously no, Atari is much worse

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 07:48:41 2017 No.3894325 >>3894301 Virtual Boy

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 07:54:02 2017 No.3894338 File: 27 KB, 320x240, ffix.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894301 I prefer a console capable of the lowest lows and the highest highs than one stuck in perpetual visual mediocrity, like the Ultra 64

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 08:11:02 2017 No.3894363 i don't remember the texture deformation on saturn. can an expert confirm?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 08:12:24 2017 No.3894367 >>3894338 lol'd

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 08:43:53 2017 No.3894413 >>3894363 confirmed

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:25:26 2017 No.3894591 >>3894301 It's tied with the other 5th gen consoles for a lot of games, but great stuff like >>3894338 does exist on all of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:29:35 2017 No.3894604 >>3894301 Looks good to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:33:26 2017 No.3894610 File: 409 KB, 1451x1015, IMG_20170318_122145.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's pretty great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:54:30 2017 No.3894656 >>3894338 >highest highs That certainly isn't the ps1.

>>	P Fri Mar 31 11:04:43 2017 No.3894678 >>3894301 >>3894304 >>3894610 I don't see the problem here. I love the aesthetic of low poly games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:07:40 2017 No.3894683 >>3894338 >>3894610 you motherfuckers using emulators don't count. the higher resolution is doing that shit a ton of favors. FFIX looks good, but i'm willing to bet whatever the fuck that jackie chan game is looks like garbage at 240p.

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Fri Mar 31 11:08:44 2017 No.3894686 It's gritty not pretty. Prettiness is for children.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:12:11 2017 No.3894693 >>3894683 >emulator >REEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:55:15 2017 No.3894758 >>3894683 >320 x 240 image >REEEEEEEEEEE EMULATORS AT 4K what did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:14:27 2017 No.3894794 >>3894301 MGS1 has a great aesthetic, game looks good to this day thanks to the art. Am I just being a fanboy? I always thought the art was really great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:14:45 2017 No.3894797 >It's a console warring thread on /vr/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:21:34 2017 No.3894807 >>3894794 It's way more atmospheric than Twin Snakes, but people can't get past "REEEEE MUDDY TEXTURES"

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:47:19 2017 No.3894842 >>3894301 There's a lot of ugly ps1 games, but metal gear solid still looks pretty good even today in my opinion, aside from the faces.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:52:24 2017 No.3894849 File: 9 KB, 168x250, 00m8nmnqeo7yy7q[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you realize you frequent a board that is comprised of 12 year olds that weren't even alive when MGS came out

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:09:57 2017 No.3894865 I see people on youtube now thinking they're old and wise because their first consoles was fifth gen.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:29:46 2017 No.3894893 >>3894301 No, I'm pretty sure that award goes to the CD-I.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:32:59 2017 No.3894896 File: 35 KB, 612x612, 17309067_10155207938389124_9163374071859879583_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894338 >uh-oh, they attacked my beloved PlayStazion, I better attack the Ultra 64! Also >ps >highest highs

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:45:37 2017 No.3894917 Unfiltered low-res textures are the sexiest thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:50:20 2017 No.3894924 >>3894301 It's pretty fuckin ugly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:52:17 2017 No.3894926 >>3894896 Is that Stamper?

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:53:59 2017 No.3894930

>>3894924
This. A lot of games look so terrible. But I get a lot of shit from a ps1 friend who always talks about n64 frame rate, specifically goldeneye. He can't mention it without mentioning frame rate. And yet at the same time he can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps in a modern game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:54:23 2017 No.3894932 >>3894917 they are, just a shame a lot of really nice looking ps1 games have a dithering filter over the frustum of the camera.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:25:47 2017 No.3894996 These console wars threads are so shitty. Please keep them on /v/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:33:47 2017 No.3895004 >>3894896 The irony of you moaning about someone defending the Playstation on this board is astounding.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:33:54 2017 No.3895005 CD-I, Jaguar and 3DO have lots of ugly games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:42:08 2017 No.3895020 File: 76 KB, 768x1024, IMG_20150212_134721.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >psx

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 15:00:24 2017 No.3895049

>>3895005
Pretty much everything on Atari2600 looks like ass. There are some good games, but the graphical loss in arcade ports on that beast made people's complaints about downgraded ports in later generations look petty.

Not that most complaints about videogames aren't petty.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 15:07:49 2017 No.3895059 >>3894301 5th gen in general looked like ass. Except for the 2D games on Saturn, and Neo-Geo/CD games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 15:19:16 2017 No.3895073 >>3894301 Not at all. Compact white slot loader. The thing's beautiful. Way better looking than a phat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:15:24 2017 No.3895162 File: 9 KB, 169x125, megawhat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3895004 >needing to defend a system from console warriors >being a console warrior

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:19:50 2017 No.3895168 >>3894996 I didn't think this was a console war thread until you mentioned it. And now a bunch of other people are using the term in this thread. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:36:32 2017 No.3895193 >>3894996 What console war? Op didn't mention other consoles. He just said psx is ugly which it damn well was.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:48:32 2017 No.3895212 >>3894301 the texture jiggling is part of the charm

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:54:55 2017 No.3895220 File: 16 KB, 357x379, 1485078472182.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FUCK DITHERING

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:01:52 2017 No.3895228 File: 3.00 MB, 426x240, Ridge Racer Type 4 Flyby.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >waah mama Playstation was too ugly

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:09:24 2017 No.3895242 By the time I got to the end of this thread I was a 100% certain I'd misclicked boards and landed on /v/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:10:30 2017 No.3895245 >>3895242 >waah mama I can't handle some light banter

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:13:09 2017 No.3895247 >>3894301 Overrated games general?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 18:07:33 2017 No.3895336 It was called the Playstion or the PS, faggot. That's like still calling the N64 the Ultra 642

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 18:12:34 2017 No.3895341 >>3894301 low-poly is comfy tho. the only real problem with ps1 is the weird polygon flickering. even emus cant fix it

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 20:03:07 2017 No.3895514 File: 348 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-30 23-19-49-14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 20:35:11 2017 No.3895561 File: 992 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-28 11-02-05-99.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 20:50:24 2017 No.3895591 File: 490 KB, 1024x768, Bubsy 3D.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rooks pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 21:18:16 2017 No.3895662 >>3895514 >>3895561 youre using that emulation that fixes the gross ass warping textures and you're playing at high res eat shit. that ain't the true psx experience kid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 22:12:38 2017 No.3895825 File: 448 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 18-17-10-36.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3895662 Just like in that spongebob episode with the clothespin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 22:13:28 2017 No.3895826 File: 304 KB, 1024x768, your mind cannot grasp the true nature of those buildings.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3895662 >gross Hey, it's cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 22:21:54 2017 No.3895839 File: 676 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-28 12-44-49-43.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3895826 works well with pac-man

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 22:32:09 2017 No.3895849

>>3895228
my dad used to love this one for it's graphics. They were damn good for it's day.

psx had a bunch of great looking games, why would anyone hate on it? don't you understand that it was the first 3D generation? of course characters would be low poly, lightning wouldn't be realistic, textures would be all pixelated.

Even then, you get great looking games like MGS, Crash bandicoot, Ridge Racer 4, FF9.
And if you don't dig that, there's plenty of good 2D like klonoa, Capcom fighters, megaman X series and... megaman 8 (one of my all time favourite 2D games as far as graphics go)

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:09:02 2017 No.3895895 File: 154 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 19-56-35-44.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHO DIS

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:11:19 2017 No.3895898 File: 118 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 20-00-55-49.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:11:41 2017 No.3895901 >>3895895 Even Pac got erections on his brows

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:16:26 2017 No.3895915 File: 61 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 20-19-27-35.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AND WHO IS THIS

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:17:36 2017 No.3895918 File: 200 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 20-20-29-80.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] PAC-FAMILY AT THE KINO ROOM.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:25:08 2017 No.3895927 File: 477 KB, 1024x768, Mundo do Homem de Pac (13).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3895839 Pac looks smug.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:31:40 2017 No.3895935 File: 357 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 19-59-52-23.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3895927 for us

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:32:43 2017 No.3895937 File: 256 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 20-18-53-37.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] there she go again

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:33:52 2017 No.3895941 File: 331 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 20-30-25-09.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] break time for the couple

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:34:23 2017 No.3895942 File: 46 KB, 640x427, Console_psx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894301 Looks good to me. But not retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:07:09 2017 No.3895965 File: 743 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 21-11-04-91.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what's her problem

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:12:13 2017 No.3895970 File: 720 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 21-11-34-21.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:19:12 2017 No.3895976 >>3895970 Cunny Villa? Just kidding. I need to play this game in wireframe to see how they did all this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:25:43 2017 No.3895983 File: 329 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 21-24-01-12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3895976 it's magic i tell you

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:31:40 2017 No.3895990 >>3895983 >Einhander >never has a loading screen past the intro FMV >60 fps >looks amazing how

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 02:27:47 2017 No.3896081 >>3895983 I get a full erection everytime I find out someone else knows the greatness that is Einhander

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 02:29:02 2017 No.3896083 >>3895983 Best shmup. Memories. Feels;

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 02:40:04 2017 No.3896096 File: 397 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 21-26-26-44.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3896081 i bought an original copy for cheap too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 02:43:07 2017 No.3896103 >>3894301 I guess you haven't played the Sega Saturn. All of the games on both the PSX and Saturn look much worse on the latter. Resident Evil is a great example of this.

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 03:03:32 2017 No.3896131
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>>3895826

Some devs went so overboard trying to compensate for the PS1's texture warping that the games sacrificed detail or draw distance. Wish there was a generic "increase draw distance" mod for ePSXe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 03:37:44 2017 No.3896164 >>3894301 >PSX NOT RETRO

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 03:42:14 2017 No.3896168 File: 150 KB, 1333x1000, asellus2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I actually like pre-rendered backgrounds

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 03:53:10 2017 No.3896179 File: 909 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-04-01 00-19-18-91.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3896168 I bet you only drink space beer

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:30:02 2017 No.3896347 File: 37 KB, 640x480, vs-9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are Vagrant Story's aesthetics /vr/ approved? Always thought that it was a beautiful game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:34:16 2017 No.3896351 Why do people get so triggered when others say Playstation X?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:34:21 2017 No.3896352 >>3896347 Nice pixelated ass

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:46:51 2017 No.3896361 >>3896352 Don't get distracted and answer my question.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:49:55 2017 No.3896368 >>3896131 Left: Voodoo1 Right: Software renderer

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:53:08 2017 No.3896372 >>3894758 >>3894693 I thought people replying with REEE was a tumblr thing

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:56:26 2017 No.3896378

>>3894678
Issue is not low poly entirely. It is incredibly low textures that like to shake like parkinsons. I have a ton of favorites on PS1 but can't pretend the console ruined a bunch of games that would have been better off on pc or waiting a console generation.

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 07:32:19 2017 No.3896404

How does MGS1 look emulated? Is there any way to play it at a higher resolution but maintain the pixelated aesthetic of the playstation 1?

I always hated the PC version of MGS because it looks smudged blurry, it did no favor at all to the visuals, actually looks worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 12:47:00 2017 No.3896830 File: 647 KB, 1360x768, bof4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] no

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 13:06:45 2017 No.3896849 >>3894301 I thought ps1 looked like the N64.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 13:13:09 2017 No.3896856 File: 86 KB, 1360x768, 1476214498519.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] looks good to me

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 13:17:02 2017 No.3896863 >>3896856 N64 has better textures,just my 2 cents.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 18:24:46 2017 No.3897390 >>3896034 >Hi Ryu what did they mean by this

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 18:26:44 2017 No.3897395 >>3896131 >left side of PS1 what the FUCK happened to the subdivision there? what a goddamn waste of polygons no wonder it ran like shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 18:27:14 2017 No.3897398 >>3897390 It's Hiryu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 18:42:03 2017 No.3897427 >>3896849 Kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 18:56:33 2017 No.3897453 File: 686 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-04-01 00-06-24-60.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 18:59:19 2017 No.3897460 File: 85 KB, 1536x960, 01-04-2017-18.56.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3896131 JUST FUCK MY OPTIMIZATION UP

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:15:09 2017 No.3897487 >>3896164 Neither is the N64.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:17:28 2017 No.3897491 File: 1.08 MB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-27 20-02-05-13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3897489

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:54:21 2017 No.3897551 File: 342 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-04-01 16-40-21-31.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3896404 it's still wobbly

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:59:07 2017 No.3897561 File: 645 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-04-01 17-03-33-28.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] THAT'S HER SNEAK ATTACK??

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 23:28:37 2017 No.3897984 File: 580 KB, 1536x1920, 01-04-2017-19.13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Case 1: American ""developer"" The fuck were they thinking? No wonder the framerate drops during fights.

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 23:30:11 2017 No.3897989
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>>3897984
Case 2: Japanese developer

They hardly needed to go mad with subdivision and yet there is virtually no texture warping in motion, only if you stand still and stare at the walls in the back. Oh and this is a 60 fps game. How do the nips do it?

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 23:32:04 2017 No.3897991
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>>3897984
Case 3: This perspective and FOV is technically cheating, but it goes to show just how little you need to subdivide to avoid texture warping. This is Tekken Force and it's also 60 fps, potentially having multiple enemies on screen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:01:21 2017 No.3898027 >>3897989 Show a European game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:08:43 2017 No.3898034 File: 107 KB, 1280x960, 01-04-2017-19.51.31.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898027 Case 1, bad: Moto Racer 2 by DSI. French, made Flashback & Another World. Subdivides out the ass, runs and plays like shit compared to the PC version.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:11:30 2017 No.3898040
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>>3898027
Case 2, good: Wipeout 3 by Psygnosis. Relies on subdivision but doesn't compromise framerate, it's rock solid. But most importantly the subdivision seems mathematically correct and uniform.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:15:30 2017 No.3898046
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>>3898040
An example of "what the fuck are you doing" subdivision is Spiderman and by proxy Tony Hawk. Presumably this roof top should be flat and shouldn't have complex geometry, but Neversoft filled the place with broken triangles overlapping each other. And what's up with the ledge on the right? What a waste of polygons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:36:19 2017 No.3898078 File: 38 KB, 480x360, 1403666129979.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898046 Don't talk shit about Neversoft

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:12:15 2017 No.3898354 >>3898078 Nigga fuck your role model bitch im my own idol And if you can't face it my nigga you can ass it

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:21:11 2017 No.3898362 >>3897460 >>3897984 It could just be a really, really misguided attempt to make the lighting more precise, as Q2 uses vertex lighting on PS1 instead of the N64's lightmaps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:24:18 2017 No.3898368 >>3898362 It also looks like the PS1 is tessellating the surfaces in real time, as in both Q2 and >>3898046 it only gets ridiculous when the camera is close.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:38:12 2017 No.3898374

>>3898368
Yeah by subdividing I really meant tessellation in real time when you walk up close, most PS1 games do this. My issue is developers abusing it way too much to the point where it's hurting performance if it wasn't locked to 30. Or the tessellation is so messy like >>3898046 that fucks with what could've been a cleaner optimization. With that era of console hardware I would think every last bit helps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 05:26:57 2017 No.3898425 >>3895228 holy FUCK I've never played RR, I had no fucking idea it looked this good

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 05:47:56 2017 No.3898441 >>3896863 N64 just used flat colours for most thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 05:57:43 2017 No.3898452 >>3895839 Aww hell yeah, Pac Man World Just beat it for the first time ever 2 months ago, totally worth it

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 06:37:58 2017 No.3898493

Yeah, the PS1 was the beginning of the end of gaming along with the N64. Style over substance gaming started in the mid-90s with the push toward 3difying everyfuckingthing and a rash of ugly games with zero goddamn good gameplay that people thought were good because OMG3D SO NEW AND FANCY, which continued on through to the modern day with refinement of graphics but still garbage gameplay.

/vr/ should be pre-1995. Period.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 06:44:38 2017 No.3898497 >>3898493 Those are some hot (read: shit) opinions you got there.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 06:47:39 2017 No.3898505

>>3898425

Racing games tend to always have nice graphics on consoles, but R4 is one of the best looking games on the PS1.

It's also a pretty fun game to boot. Nice courses, tons of cars, smooth music... it's pretty comfy, especially if you have a NeGcon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 11:26:17 2017 No.3898823 >>3894301 >ps10 you what m8?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 11:42:10 2017 No.3898858 >>3898823 You took time to make this post so did I though, so I guess we're both faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 13:10:25 2017 No.3899039 >>3897984 >>3897989 >>3897991 >>3898034 >>3898040 >>3898046 the 'tism

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 16:47:49 2017 No.3899479 >>3898505 Type 4 supports Dualshock

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 17:18:01 2017 No.3899543 >>3894304 then go play COD faggot

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 17:34:23 2017 No.3899573

>>3896863
Are you serious mate? I'll admit I didn't play too many games on the n64, I can't believe that the flash carts could hold nearly as good textures as the ps1s CDs. I mean, vanilla users couldn't always fully see those textures, but they were there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 17:47:27 2017 No.3899591 File: 16 KB, 236x295, 8beebf32b50bb778f6b9f382503dd496.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3899479 >advocating playing a racing game with DualShock over NeGcon

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:04:19 2017 No.3899613 >>3895976 Gouraud shading and a lot of detail where it's needed. The Spyro crew knew how to make that console come alive. The only other games that really surpassed it were Squaresoft games; they were the true masters of the system.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:08:03 2017 No.3899618

>>3896347
I have never gotten over how stupid Ashely looks, desu.

>>3899039
No, it's practical game design on limited hardware. This is what makes retro dev fun, instead of the modern approach of gluing shit together you don't understand in Unity. It feels good to understand and use your tools well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:09:24 2017 No.3899621 >>3894301 that honor belongs to ps2. its color palette ranged from dark brown to swamp green.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:12:34 2017 No.3899627 File: 166 KB, 1280x720, SKTjHSb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] beautiful...

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:14:55 2017 No.3899634

>>3899613
I can see where they used their tricks like gouraud shading, LOD, and all that stuff. But I'm still seeing a moderately high amount of polys in Spyro, his skin is extremely detailed, there's consistently fantastic texture mapping in every scene, the HUD is fully 3D, the skybox is literally a 3D mesh. There's a lot of shit going on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:36:22 2017 No.3899663 >>3899627 >stretching a 320x240 image to 1280x720 nice try

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 19:36:33 2017 No.3899749 >>3899634 The point is they balanced system resources and worked with the hardware in such a way to enable a rich landscape with little distortion.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 21:47:56 2017 No.3899953

>>3899663
But that's literally how it would look on a big TV, hell better even.

Far more true representation than the other autist itt posting high native res emulated pics of psx with texture warping correction desu pretending that's how psx games actually look lmao

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 21:52:26 2017 No.3899968

>>3894794
The art style itself is really good and the game has the best atmosphere of any mgs vidya by far but that doesn't stop it from looking like objective ass lmao. Sad because it's one of the best looking games on psx... Sadly this is as good as it gets for that poopoo machine kek.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 21:56:35 2017 No.3899983 >>3894610 my nigga that game was the shit. fuk man i used to love this game

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 21:58:04 2017 No.3899987 >>3899953 That's not how CRT displays work

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 22:00:02 2017 No.3899993 File: 376 KB, 1009x1008, 10624038_907633682588781_728847797034337867_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3899627

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 22:20:46 2017 No.3900026 >>3899987 Yeah they look even worse at 25+ inches gg. And kid, I know you're 21 but it's really not a big deal to have grown up with a crt television.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 22:49:05 2017 No.3900084 File: 909 KB, 500x358, MML2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >no MML gifs posted I don't know, obviously nice pixel art i better then early 3d but it still has its charm. I can play games like MML, MGS, and RE with no problems.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:09:19 2017 No.3900119 >>3897561 that pic is from an emulation right? playing my copy of mgs through ps2 (with the texture feature or whatever on) didnt look nearly that good

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:10:10 2017 No.3900121 >>3900119 >texture filtering on >didn't look nearly that good you don't say

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:12:27 2017 No.3900126 >>3900121 whats that option for the ps2 again? to play ps1 games that's supposed to make it look better? i thought it was texture filtering, i might be mistaken. soooo that pic is emulation right? obviously. yea ok

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:16:23 2017 No.3900137 >>3900126 It is turning on texture filtering, but "it makes the games look better" said no one. It's shit, leave it off.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 01:57:28 2017 No.3900428

>>3898441
>N64 just used flat colours for most thing.
Some guy wrote this on the N64's wikipedia page a while ago (been removed for a while) and it's bullshit.

Neither the N64 or PS1 made much use of flat shading, they used GOURAUD shading. And quite honestly, I've seen it used much more often on PS1. N64 developers had a habit of spamming (low-res) textures on absolutely everything while on PS1 they'd put up one or two high-res textures and then everything else would just be shaded. Spyro's a good example.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 01:58:08 2017 No.3900430 >>3897984 Now I want to see Simcity 2000

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 02:02:43 2017 No.3900443 >>3900430 But isn't that a sprite game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 02:10:08 2017 No.3900458 >>3896351 Because alot of people on this board have asbergers

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 04:21:46 2017 No.3900582 >>3900458 u8 the b8 m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 04:40:34 2017 No.3900616 >>3895942 came here to post this decent looking console, great looking dvr

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 04:44:04 2017 No.3900618 >>3894301 Is OP the biggest faggot of all time?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 12:08:18 2017 No.3901180 >>3899543 Over that pile of piss? Gladly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 13:39:03 2017 No.3901336 >>3895228 I still prefer Gran Turismos though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RprRXMMWAVY

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 14:40:22 2017 No.3901461 File: 1.46 MB, 500x310, PSX graphics.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 14:45:24 2017 No.3901470 File: 77 KB, 533x400, 6849102dd1228122a8f468ff1fec2e44.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898505 >>3899591 >he fell for the Memecon

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 14:48:17 2017 No.3901475 >>3901461 >GOD replaced by GTE

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 15:06:16 2017 No.3901516 >>3901475 https://www.libretro.com/index.php/mednafenbeetle-psx-pgxp-arrives/ Its far from done but it does work on a small amount of games.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 15:10:48 2017 No.3901535
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>>3901516
Not to be rude but PGXP, vertex precision, perspective correction and all that are regularly occurring topics and made several appearances in this thread already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 15:57:29 2017 No.3901673 File: 959 KB, 1024x1024, 1430869194698.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3901535 I couldnt be arsed to look. Im just here to post PSX memes

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 16:15:00 2017 No.3901696 File: 138 KB, 1280x720, 1280x720-SrQ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3901470 Sure did. Back in '95 as it happens. It's never been bettered as a handheld driving controller.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 16:15:02 2017 No.3901697 File: 1.88 MB, 480x360, reaver.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] beautiful graphics

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 16:15:58 2017 No.3901698 more like plebstation lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 16:33:26 2017 No.3901739 >>3900443 I think he meant the ugly 3D drive-in-your-city mode that's exclusive to PS1 version of SC2K. Fun Fact: It reuses assets from SimCopter

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 16:38:22 2017 No.3901753 >>3901739 Oh so that's what the hilarious screenshot is from. I might want to get it now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 18:29:05 2017 No.3902039 File: 3.00 MB, 852x480, SC2K.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900430 >>3901739 Not as pretty as I hoped, the LOD and draw distance kills it

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 19:46:40 2017 No.3902208 >>3895983 ugh, she looks like carrigans ghost in the casper film

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 20:19:40 2017 No.3902262 >>3896347 >/vr/ approved How autistic are you that you let some 4chan board dictate your own opinion?

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 20:25:36 2017 No.3902273

>>3901697
i got this for the dreamcast instead, looked like the best way to play since the pc version was a port of the ps
but jesus christ it's loud as fuck, pretty sure my dc is on it's last legs tho, has problems reading discs and usually quits games.
kind of got bored of it once i got to the cathedral, but i'd like to give it another try
should i get a new dc or a copy of this on ps1?
they both cost the same anyway

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 20:27:12 2017 No.3902279

>>3898046
I don't really understand what you're talking about. I assume it's the random changes in the number of polygons per area?

Please post more anon, I'd never seen games through this polygon perspective, so that's what things really look like to the playstation hardware huh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 20:32:27 2017 No.3902295 >>3901461 Why the fuck is the camera wobbling?

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 20:37:50 2017 No.3902312
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>>3902279
I'm not criticizing that there is a grid of polygons, because that's needed due to the tiling of textures and even more so to a light extreme in order to reduce polygon wobble on Playstation. The problem is why it looks like random garbage instead of a uniform mesh like >>3897989 or >>3898040. Also idiocy like a small part of the ledge on the right having a thousand polygons when it shouldn't. It's a bit autistic and virtually invisible to the end user, but fucked up optimization is a contributing factor to unsteady framerates, which does affect the player.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 20:47:28 2017 No.3902336 >>3902295 Windy day?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 21:08:03 2017 No.3902379 >>3902295 >Why the fuck is i never play ps games? Poor+Underage

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 21:11:53 2017 No.3902387 >>3895336 who you replying to bb?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 21:15:13 2017 No.3902401 >>3896404 plays best on the DC with Bleem! Runs at double the resolution and looks fantastic. Also it will run with burned copies of MGS, which is a nice feature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 21:17:26 2017 No.3902407 >people on a retro board being graphicsfags What the fuck. Were you just not alive in 1994?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 21:17:55 2017 No.3902409 >>3896378 What about a Saturn version? At least the polygons wouldn't vibrate like mad whenever there was movement.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 21:26:40 2017 No.3902436 >>3895336 >Playstion Lol look how mad this sperg be

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 23:11:40 2017 No.3902665

>>3901739
> It reuses assets from SimCopter
It does? The graphics look pretty different. I believe they share the same engine, though, alongside Streets of Simcity.

>>3902039
While the warping textures fix work wonders for it, the game still looks awfuly ugly. Ugly colors, no art direction, bad LOD and small draw distance.

Now I want to see the wireframe. What emulator you're using?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 23:24:02 2017 No.3902701 PSX was polykino. Character models in playstation games always seemed more detailed while the n64 had featureless gormless blobs. Then it was the sharp textures vs. low res oily smears.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 23:39:13 2017 No.3902760
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>>3902665
I don't mind it looking like shit because of all those reasons, because Namco Museum still looks bomb. The problem with SimCity like I said is the horrible texture LOD (roads are smudges beyond 10 feet) and things cut off from draw distance. If those kinds of anomalies weren't there, it would be Namco Museum Windows 98 level of aescreensaver.

I'm using PCSX Reloaded with PGXP and Pete's OpenGL 1.78 I believe, or whatever else plugins that cycles wireframe modes with F11.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 03:34:37 2017 No.3903152 File: 866 KB, 1753x411, 1447422653386.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3902701 >Character models in playstation games always seemed more detailed while the n64 had featureless gormless blobs fake detail from noise, aliasing and jitter sad!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 03:49:34 2017 No.3903167 File: 311 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-04-01 16-57-59-48.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 03:50:41 2017 No.3903169 File: 388 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-31 21-28-31-03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] action

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 03:56:18 2017 No.3903172 Singlehandedly killed arcades in the US Came out before Direct X and Glide Cheap to produce $20 - $40 games Put Nintendo on life support Killed Sega I can see why some people might be upset.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 04:07:31 2017 No.3903180 File: 185 KB, 673x379, 1490033857934.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3903172 >Put Nintendo on life support

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 04:45:49 2017 No.3903215 >>3903180 >the power of casuals They're back where they should have been a decade ago now, sinking further and further into the red.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 04:48:11 2017 No.3903217 >>3903215 ps1 was more casual than n64 bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 05:25:01 2017 No.3903257 >>3903217 nah, n64 was a baby console. Nintendo has always been there for newcomers while sony and sega had explicitly reached out to other higher end audiences.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 05:40:18 2017 No.3903268 File: 954 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-03-30 23-35-01-04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 05:58:44 2017 No.3903294 >>3903257 >higher end audiences Sorry, you're a child.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 06:06:27 2017 No.3903302 File: 1.99 MB, 480x292, 1433389313585.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894301 >Ugliest Thing That Can Have Other Things Plugged Into It Award goes to OP's mom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 06:11:20 2017 No.3903306 >>3902407 Most were not. Being born in 94 doesn't make you any better kiddo.

Anonymous Tue Apr 4 06:39:51 2017 No.3903335
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>>3903257
Nintendo excels at being for babies and man children who run away when they see blood because they are immature babyfags and can't handle a deep, dark, serious game like I can. Sega and Sony had games that reflected the inner darkness of my soul from having two Christmases since my parents were divorced, while Nintendo did kiddy shit because nintentoddlers are fucking babies who never had to rough it in high school like real people, like me, who had to deal with bullies and preppy douchebags since they didn't understand my real power...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 15:54:44 2017 No.3904091 File: 2.52 MB, 480x360, 1491335684353.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3903335 >Sega and Sony had games that reflected the inner darkness of my soul

Anonymous Tue Apr 4 16:22:34 2017 No.3904145
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>>3903215
It raises a very important point. The masses dont play a game for a challenge they play it to feel good about them selves.

This is why fee-2-pay phone games are #1. Just pay $3.99 for all the heart tanks and you win the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFv6KAdQ5SE

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 16:30:22 2017 No.3904157 File: 49 KB, 354x500, shadowthehedgehog.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3904091 >Sonic >not dark

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 18:10:29 2017 No.3904385 >>3903152 You really need to see that shit in motion to appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 00:36:18 2017 No.3905048 >>3897489 what config did you use? if i increase the internal resolution textures become flickery?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 14:04:33 2017 No.3905945 >>3894301 Saturn is way uglier

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 14:48:49 2017 No.3906012 File: 99 KB, 774x583, zx_game.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894301 No. >>3894304 >ugh. literally eye cancer. Not bad by comparison.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 20:50:34 2017 No.3906590 File: 152 KB, 1920x1080, pcsxr0050.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3902760 Whoa, this is really good to see how graphics worked. I mean, at first I was...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 20:51:36 2017 No.3906592 File: 45 KB, 1920x1080, pcsxr0051.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3906590 But then... That's how optimization looks like.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 21:05:20 2017 No.3906614 File: 146 KB, 401x401, 1488648406939.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3906592

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 21:15:14 2017 No.3906628 File: 70 KB, 1920x1080, pcsxr0093.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Vaporwave as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 21:16:05 2017 No.3906629 File: 243 KB, 455x450, reinforcements.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3896347

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 21:16:17 2017 No.3906632 File: 59 KB, 1920x1080, pcsxr0060.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stylish. My new wallpaper.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 21:18:33 2017 No.3906638 Playstation floors and walls use up way too many polygons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 21:24:02 2017 No.3906651 >>3906590 It looks like the walls are done with a raycaster, and everything else is done with polygons. Kind of an interesting approach actually.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 21:34:16 2017 No.3906680 >>3906651 I would drag whoever programmed that out into the streets and flog them if I knew who they were. That has got to be the most stupid render engine I have ever seen in my life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 02:03:52 2017 No.3907128 >>3906592 >>3906590 Pretty darn cleaver way around the psx texture warping. Too bad about the game though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 04:15:46 2017 No.3908880 >>3894301 >old consoles = complete classic good games >new consoles = DLC pic one

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 09:10:14 2017 No.3911053 >>3894301 No

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 11:58:21 2017 No.3911283 >>3896830 I fucking love this game. I always have it on at least one of my devices

Anonymous Sat Apr 8 13:42:55 2017 No.3911462
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Dokuta Slump. Looks really good.

>>3906651
Yep. I always found strange how the walls looked different from the floor and the character when I emulated it in high resolution, like if they were rendered in a different way or in a different layer, like in Saturn games.
Then I discovered why.

One of the very few techniques that actually only works in the original resolution.

It's really interesting to see the techniques developers would come up with before they actually understood the hardware and how "good" graphics should look and work.

>>3907128
I think it's more a relic from the original PC version. It seems the PS port only added textures to the main character.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 02:42:50 2017 No.3912818 >>3894301 the console was pretty! Its just the psx 3D graphics that were cancer inducing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 05:32:44 2017 No.3912957 >>3895228 Racing games don't count cause you don't even GO through dneoejfpwkdj

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 06:13:06 2017 No.3912975 File: 1003 KB, 320x224, Metal Gear Solid.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looking terrible my dudes

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 10:23:23 2017 No.3913195 >>3903180 >>3903215 They only started dropping in 2014. Wii-U and muh 3D was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 10:54:11 2017 No.3913237 >>3899993 Quick rundown on this guy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 11:15:01 2017 No.3913272 >>3913237 hes the best looking one there

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 11:40:01 2017 No.3913313 >>3903180 what happened at 2007 for Sony?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 11:42:30 2017 No.3913316 File: 237 KB, 644x963, ps3_sales.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3913313

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 12:05:05 2017 No.3913368 File: 110 KB, 500x336, Ey3TTJB.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What games are considered ugly exactly? Maybe they don't look as good as good as certain 16/32 bitvera stuff butbthe ps1 looks fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 12:30:34 2017 No.3913389 >>3912975 It may very well be the most stable 30 frames in the console.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:36:32 2017 No.3913505 >>3913389 That generation of consoles really took a nosedive when it comes to frame stability

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 14:39:04 2017 No.3913621 >>3913316 >Buy muh BDs Nobody cares about BDs when you can download and stream HD with broadband interwebz. And a self-built PC for that price could run any "HD" res game better than a console, even in 2000's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 02:13:57 2017 No.3914819 >>3894301 >Is PSX the ugliest The console was a success in their release because making games was pretty easy on it compared to other consoles. The psx has most of my favourite games so, no complaints. I even enjoy playing them now a days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 02:15:36 2017 No.3914821 >>3914819 But yea, if for ugliest you mean bad graphics, probably yes

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 02:45:32 2017 No.3914846 File: 718 KB, 1364x768, pcsxr-pgxp 2017-04-09 23-31-17-15.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 03:19:29 2017 No.3914876 >>3895228 how do you achieve that slick view? I just installed espx and looks worse than the original

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 03:27:55 2017 No.3914884 >>3914876 Shaky vertices fixed Affine textures fixed Widescreen extension A fuck load of antialiasing but still nearest neighbor

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 03:34:31 2017 No.3914891 >>3914876 retroarch with vulkan renderer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 03:54:18 2017 No.3914931 I wish there were PS1 games who opted out of textures. Imagine how great why will look then, and how much complex geometry could be. But I guess textures were a too important gimmick. Are there any examples? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6zHq472i80

Anonymous Mon Apr 10 04:03:15 2017 No.3914946
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>>3906012
It might be shocking, but there are good-looking Speccy games. With any platform, it depends on skill of the artist, not the platform. PSX looks cool when it's cartoony like Crash Bandicoot, and bad when it tries to be 'realistic' like MGS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 04:09:27 2017 No.3914953 >>3914946 MGS looks nice to be honest. And it isn't as much trying to be realistic as it has its own videogamey visual style.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 04:19:21 2017 No.3914968 >>3914953 I mean, yeah, I personally think MGS1 is one of the cooler looking PSX games, but I tried to be empathetic to OP here. I'm assuming pseudorealism is why OP used MGS and Tomb Raider screenshots to prove his point, and not e.g. Crash or Spyro.

Anonymous Mon Apr 10 04:25:44 2017 No.3914980

>>3903215
>muh sony is so hardcore!! I love kratos breaaaking stuff!! it makes me less angry when im angry with my mom!!!

>>3903257
god damn i want to fucking kill you.
how wrong can you be in this life? Crash and spyro is the most normie fucking game i've evern seen. Even by today standards sony consoles are normie core as fuck. Chads buying fifa and muhy gamur gurlz playing interactive movies. Sony was the cancer of gaming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 04:33:00 2017 No.3914987 >>3914980 Are you seriously implying that Nintendo isn't the most normie shit of all? What was SNES? What was n64? What was the motherfucking Wii? Most people today don't even know who Spyro is ffs

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 05:02:27 2017 No.3915023 >>3914931 Toshinden 3 60 fps mode Tobal No 1

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 05:15:36 2017 No.3915038 >>3914980 >accusing someone else of being edgy >"god damn i want to fucking kill you"

Anonymous Mon Apr 10 05:15:44 2017 No.3915039

>>3914980
Sony was the breath of fresh air that let devs get out from under the oppressive thumb of Nintendo, faggot.

Nintendo have made nothing but pure trash from the N64 onwards. Sony at least still funds the occasional "hardcore" game.

Of the big 3, ideally I would have liked Sega to be the top dog thanks to their arcade ethos. But Sony is a hell of a lot better than Nintendo by every conceivable metric. Keep playing your literal children's games, I have more respect for the tards that thought TLoU was a good game than I have for people who enjoy imagine babies-tier Mario games, and maybe half a good game every decade.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 05:31:44 2017 No.3915054 >>3914987 Maybe because Spyro is a shit series?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 06:26:54 2017 No.3915101 >>3915054 yeah

Anonymous Mon Apr 10 06:29:40 2017 No.3915103

>>3915039
Nintendo excels at being for babies and man children who run away when they see blood because they are immature babyfags and can't handle a deep, dark, serious game like I can. Sega and Sony had games that reflected the inner darkness of my soul from having two Christmases since my parents were divorced, while Nintendo did kiddy shit because nintentoddlers are fucking babies who never had to rough it in high school like real people, like me, who had to deal with bullies and preppy douchebags since they didn't understand my real power...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 07:56:39 2017 No.3915168 >>3915039 All Sony did was make cinematic games mainstream you utterly cancerous faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 09:44:52 2017 No.3915268 File: 1.71 MB, 320x240, mgs.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3913389 >It may very well be the most stable 30 frames in the console. No, MGS has plenty of obvious framerate drops

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 11:33:58 2017 No.3915398 >>3915268 Goddamn this game blows.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 11:40:33 2017 No.3915406 >>3894319 I'm playing kaveri right now XD

Anonymous Mon Apr 10 11:54:28 2017 No.3915436
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>>3894301
I actually like the low-poly, low-res look nowadays. Gives the games an abstract, surreal feel. Yes, these graphics are ugly by today's standards, but they're kinda charming in a way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 12:12:15 2017 No.3915464 >>3915436 N64 is low res low poly too but it doesn't look like aids. Its that fucking warping texture bullshit that's so disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 12:39:46 2017 No.3915498 >>3894849 >outer kevin

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 08:52:41 2017 No.3917095
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The only times psx games don't look that outdated is when they're mostly polygons. Games like Crash, Spyro, and Ape Escape.

When you've got polygon objects in the foreground and pre-rendered backgrounds, it's going to look dated. More so with upscaled polygons.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 09:16:17 2017 No.3917129

>>3913621
>Nobody cares about BDs when you can download and stream HD with broadband interwebz
which wasn't an option at the time. Just search the oldest youtube videos and admire the "quality"

at most you had the option of downloading SD DVD rips from bit torrent

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 09:17:24 2017 No.3917132 >>3915023 don't forget tobal no 2, which was in 640x480 as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 10:27:49 2017 No.3917234 >>3917132 >don't forget tobal no 2, which was in 640x480 as well 512x480

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 11:28:19 2017 No.3917324 File: 58 KB, 512x480, bubsy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3917234 Just like Bubsy 3D

Anonymous Wed Apr 12 16:11:10 2017 No.3919962

>>3897395
Actually this is beautiful, just fucking beautiful.
They perform polygon subdivision in areas where the perspepective transform would cause texture warping. By using smaller triangles the interpolated coordinates would be in a range that wouldn't cause distortion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 16:17:24 2017 No.3919984 N64 is the ugliest console of all time. Everything looks like some bizzare cubist painting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 16:24:51 2017 No.3920006 >>3919962 Yes we know subdivision helps with texture warping. The point is it wouldn't have warped in the first place and it's also excessive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 16:26:58 2017 No.3920010 >>3919962 Quake II on PSX was a work of programming art. I only wished they had done Quake I while they were there already :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 20:06:55 2017 No.3920301 >>3895168 >>3895193 Fooling no one

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 00:20:17 2017 No.3920593 >>3898046 My instructor would've given me no credit if I submitted an environment with topography like this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 01:58:05 2017 No.3920698 File: 711 KB, 1440x1080, 002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Thu Apr 13 09:35:09 2017 No.3921117

>>3898368
>>3898374
I had no idea that any PSX games did this. Looking closely at the spiderman photo, it's clear that potions of the roof farther away from the camera have larger polygons. I didn't realize the PSX had the clocks to do that.

>>3920593
It's more forgivable if it's real time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 10:58:13 2017 No.3921205 File: 188 KB, 800x600, Screen_shot_2012-09-14_at_10.32.29_AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Playstation is the most A E S T H E T I C console of its time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 14:02:39 2017 No.3921432 As someone who's a fan of minimalist artwork, I really like early attempts at 3D and low poly graphics in general https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so_HQKv-Bmk

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 14:53:07 2017 No.3921487 File: 330 KB, 1023x765, chrono_cross_437401788.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894301 i love how sometimes backgrounds are really just a big giant painting that characters walk on

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 14:56:00 2017 No.3921492 >>3921487 That's horrible

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 15:02:18 2017 No.3921505 >>3921487 >>3921492 It's not horrible if he fucking turns off filtering and keeps it at native resolution.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 15:02:26 2017 No.3921506 >>3921487 It's a great way to save space on a 700mb+ disc, sure, but Jesus.... What did they do? save it as a third-gen jpeg?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 15:12:26 2017 No.3921525 >>3921487 >sometimes Like every single JRPG on the console uses prerendered backgrounds

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 15:40:02 2017 No.3921557 File: 41 KB, 320x240, xenogears_says_waht.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3921525

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 15:40:36 2017 No.3921560 >>3921525 Guardian's Crusade, Legend of Legaia and some others do not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 16:17:14 2017 No.3921615 >>3921506 MPEG1. It's encoded in individual 16x16 blocks. The emulator upsizing (and stupid linear filtering) is causing the seams to show up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 16:35:35 2017 No.3921637 >>3894321 Which Atari sonygger?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 17:20:00 2017 No.3921708 >>3920698 I love the way this one looks like

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 17:30:50 2017 No.3921726 >>3894301 PSX is not a console you nigger

Anonymous Thu Apr 13 17:53:35 2017 No.3921753
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>>3921708
Same. Everything about all 3 were just right on.
>Low poly
>still maintaining the anime aestetic without sacrificing read-ability
>(good) facial animations
>blocky artstyle translates perfectly
>everything looks cute and lived in

When I think about low poly games that need to inspire new indie ones its this game right here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 18:10:15 2017 No.3921770 >>3921753 Was there games who imitated this look at the time? Now it is pretty popular.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 18:13:46 2017 No.3921772 >>3921770 Super Monkey Ball? Ape Escape? Goemon? I think none looks as charming

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 18:17:55 2017 No.3921776 >>3921772 Nah, these look nothing like that to me. Jumping Flash is more low-poly indie game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 20:25:50 2017 No.3921923 >>3894301 Idk I thought the PS2 looked alright https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(digital_video_recorder)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 04:42:22 2017 No.3922716 What amount of polygons could be considered as low poly but still be realtively good detailed? I mean something that looks better than MGS models but still low poly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 05:48:44 2017 No.3922779 >>3921560 Legaia is seriously hideous at times. The very first village is hard on the eyes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 07:14:14 2017 No.3922841 >>3894610 this game was awesome man

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 08:20:32 2017 No.3922903
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>>3922716
Vagrant Story would be my go-to. Really maximises the PS1's textures and models, every pixel is squeezed for what it's worth and painted intelligently.

Personally my favourite PS1 art style and models belong to Megaman Legends. The models are often bare-bones polygon-wise, particularly the NPCs who are usually walking rectangles, but the art style and textures combine to make what I consider a perfect low-poly aesthetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 12:20:21 2017 No.3923217 >>3894304 God i love that level.

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:14:31 2017 No.3923296
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You need some Terracon.
https://youtu.be/GA_e5c3XG80?t=5m39s

>>3922903
>>3920698
>>3921770
Not many games used this style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4Uw0b81dg

And I only know one cel-shaded game, Asterix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukVOjHuBlQg

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:18:26 2017 No.3923305 >>3923296 I don't think Asterix is cel shaded. It looks like the shading is just painted on, like Fear Effect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:29:08 2017 No.3923330 >>3923305 I just read that online, not sure either. How about Lucky Luke? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4dUHdn0Lgw Though, looking at it now, it does seem a whole lot closer to Megaman Legends.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:33:43 2017 No.3923342 >>3923296 >>3923330 There's no cel-shading on those game at all. Actually Asterix doesn't have any shading, just like the first Megaman Legends.

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:44:56 2017 No.3923367
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What are some 2d pixels in 3d games on ps1? All that comes to mind is klonoa, strider 2, and the BoF games, all of which look great. Though stuff like spyro and mega man legends looks great too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:56:24 2017 No.3923387 >>3923367 Battles in SaGa Frontier 1 and 2 Final Fantasy Tactics

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 16:13:47 2017 No.3923682 >>3923296 >>3923330 Cel shading would be very expensive on PSX, so that's just texturing style and mostly flat shading (quite similar to early PSX games)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 16:22:36 2017 No.3923703 >>3923367 Wheels in Crash Team Racing xD

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 17:23:47 2017 No.3925826 >>3903152 Mipmapping without enough anisotropy looks even uglier to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 01:58:54 2017 No.3926431 >>3894301 No. But your mom is.

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