/CRT/ Thread : DUDE edition

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/CRT/ Thread : DUDE edition Anonymous Wed Mar 22 17:19:59 2017 No.3876442 [Reply] [Original]

Previous thread >>3854325

This thread is for the spirited discussion of CRT displays - Televisions, monitors and projectors used for the playing of retro games!

>Try to keep it /vr/-related: Nothing past 5th gen(+ Dreamcast). Slight OT might be okay if related to CRTs (E.G. 16:9 compatible models, flatscreens, etc.) Systems with backwards compatibility are also pretty safe territory, assuming you're focusing on the older games. PC CRTs are also a-ok.
>Produce OC! Get out your real cameras and take beautiful pictures of your CRTs displaying recognizable characters with the kind of beautiful accuracy that brings tears to the eyes of young and old alike! If you take 100 photos, at least one of them will turn out alright! (maybe)
>Try to be as detailed as possible when asking info on a specific model. As always, google is your friend, and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. As always show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Discussion of video processing and scaling devices is okay, but try to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories

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>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 17:24:50 2017 No.3876450 File: 1.43 MB, 2560x1920, Zeldas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Apparently I'm expected to post in here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 17:25:38 2017 No.3876457 >>3876450 You always have in the past.

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 17:39:19 2017 No.3876489 >>3876457 I haven't been actively participating for a while but I'm in. What's new?

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 17:45:08 2017 No.3876507
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>>3876489
Usual stuff.

Newfags asking if their shiny new PVM needs a sync connection. People thinking you can't get a CRT cheap on ebay.

That kind of thing.

babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 17:50:53 2017 No.3876516
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>>3876507
Bitches don't know about my 99 cent + $40 shipping Olympus OEV-203 I ended up getting a refund on because the butthurt seller switched a more beat up one on me. Shouldn't'a done a no reserve auction, Turkey!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 18:09:05 2017 No.3876540 Why don't all you Euro fags just get Bang and Olufsen?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 18:11:57 2017 No.3876542 >>3876540 litteral MUH DESIGN overpriced shit, most have have image processing, average tubes.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 18:43:28 2017 No.3876598

>>3876516
I myself have got in the past year:

BVM-20G1 with 4k hours on the clock for £30 shipped after the bezel got broken due to less than ideal packaging

BVM-20F1 for £10 BIN with local pick up. One tiny scratch on AR coating

PVM-2950QM for £40 BIN local pick up

KX-27PS1 Profeel for £5 local pick up. Nobody bid on this one so I contacted the seller afterward and narrowly avoided it ending up at the dump

eBay is fine so long as you have good listing notifications set up, monitor them regularly and are prepared to act fast to secure bargains.

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 18:48:40 2017 No.3876612 File: 140 KB, 960x540, plaz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3876598 Yeah, my 14 inch (lower left) was a $10 local pickup

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 18:51:46 2017 No.3876617
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>>3876542
The only thing overpriced these days are the remotes. The sets themselves are often super cheap. As for design, who wouldn't want a nice looking set other than autistic contrarians?

Only 2000s era ones have intrusive image processing and the earlier curved screen ones have Philips tubes which are on the whole of excellent quality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 18:54:01 2017 No.3876621 >>3876617 Because of design constrains, tubes are often of the short variety, with all the defaults that come with them philips tubes are literally the averagest of average.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:00:41 2017 No.3876635

>>3876621
My 8902 (with 30AX tube) is unfortunately laid up due to a power supply issue but I honestly don't recall it being appreciably worse than what I >>3876598 have in current use.

It also cost me nothing, was a trade-in when I worked in a renowned B&O dealership.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:07:50 2017 No.3876641 >>3876635 average is just that, average, not bad. worst thing about philips tubes is permagnet yoke

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:44:27 2017 No.3876686 >>3876450 Gramps back with the first shitpost of the thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:55:56 2017 No.3876702 >>3876686 Second actually. He wrote the current OP too.

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 19:59:26 2017 No.3876708 >>3876702 I didn't post it though, plus I only revised an older one with the intent of having a slightly livelier thread since squ@repusher was lurking about at the time expressing his disdain for crts and crt enthusiasts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:13:30 2017 No.3876735 File: 1.68 MB, 1366x768, 1489308434772.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CRTism Army assemble

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 20:24:09 2017 No.3876745 File: 13 KB, 236x284, 82b61cdbcbd541603f02c6b1142522df[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3876735

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:07:44 2017 No.3876816 >>3876708 Is it still 2013?

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 21:12:52 2017 No.3876827 >>3876816 It's 1999 in my heart

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:18:46 2017 No.3876840 do I need two cables to get rgb from a console? Can't I just buy a genesis to bnc cable, instead of genesis to scart and scart to bnc?

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 21:22:24 2017 No.3876848 >>3876840 Of course it's physically possible to make a Genesis to BNC RGB cable but I'm not aware of anyone selling them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:33:06 2017 No.3876868 >>3876827 >>3876745 kill yourself namefag

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:35:26 2017 No.3876874 File: 504 KB, 2560x1440, 1490232838499-1217492074.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3876442 R8 and appreciate

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 21:37:38 2017 No.3876876 File: 375 KB, 400x300, 9dc[1].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3876868

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:41:20 2017 No.3876887 >>3876848 dang, I wonder how hard it is to diy

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Wed Mar 22 21:45:06 2017 No.3876896 File: 16 KB, 300x271, gen1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3876887 Easy once you've got the right DIN for your Genesis you don't even need to put in an LM1881 since you've got a bare sync right there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:02:48 2017 No.3876937 >>3876896 you can't use the sync as-is, and you need resistors/caps on RGB lines

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:03:51 2017 No.3876939 >>3876874 cantfocusforshit/10

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 23:34:38 2017 No.3877075 File: 838 KB, 2272x1704, DSCN0726.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3876516 >>3876598 >>3876612 lucky dawgs, only ever found a 14" Panasonic and it had trbl burn in. I Paid $50 for a consumer set at an estate sale.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:06:38 2017 No.3877254
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>>3876516
how are olympus's?
>>3876598
>>3876612
>>3877075
I got myself 3 BVM-20G's for $50 on craigslist. They all had roughly 30k hours.

I paid $200 for my Sony KV-36FV310 that came with its swiveling stand.

>>3876874
also r8 new setup plz no h8

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Thu Mar 23 01:23:52 2017 No.3877290 >>3877254 >how are olympus's? OEV-203 and 143 are rebadged 20M2MDU and 14M2MDUs respectively, so they're pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 02:51:02 2017 No.3877430 My TV lacks an S-video port, anyone know if I could get away by just using a s-video to component cable? Or will the quality will be just the same as using composite/RF?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 07:37:56 2017 No.3877742 >>3877430 RF<Composite<S-Video<Component/RGB

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 07:41:54 2017 No.3877746 >>3877430 Sure you could, but there's no s-video to component cable, you need a converter. http://www.svideo.com/svc2ypbpr.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 07:53:24 2017 No.3877753 Would it be possible to shrink the size and weight of a CRT display using modern tech?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 07:55:34 2017 No.3877757 What do you guys use to capture your RGB sources?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 07:57:39 2017 No.3877758 >>3877753 Nope, the bulk of the weight is the big hunk of glass and the fuckoff transformers required to power it.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 08:37:52 2017 No.3877804

>>3877753
A way higher deflection angle (resulting into more shallow tubes) could be made more practical with highly advanced deflection and electric convergence circuits.
These circuits go way beyond the primitive sawtooth generators and perform complicated corrections to the deflection and convergence voltages in realtime depending where the beam currently is. A tube with an 145° angle would be about twice as short as a (ideal) tube with 90° and these complicated circuits would solve almost all geometry and convergence issues.

>>3877758
>fuckoff transformers

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 08:39:57 2017 No.3877807 >>3876840 >>3876848 http://stores.ebay.com/Retro-Accessories rca-chan makes cables that terminate into bnc, but they're typically the most expensive. the store is closed every weekend so you can only browse mon-fri

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Thu Mar 23 08:52:51 2017 No.3877820 File: 13 KB, 461x244, sed_structure_1_[1].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3877804 >>3877753 Do we no longer meme about SED and FED technology and lament their continued consumer unavailability?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 08:55:12 2017 No.3877823 >>3877820 no because fixed resolution.

babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Thu Mar 23 09:00:42 2017 No.3877834

>>3877807
Sixty bucks! Yoinks! Doesn't even OFFER a female scart to bnc breakout either. That's confidence. I guess there must be getting to be a market for that stuff among more and more "normal" people that aren't trying to wait for international shipping then still probably need to tinker. I'm sure his cables just werk. Made in the USA, made with pride.

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Thu Mar 23 09:02:59 2017 No.3877836 >>3877823 lol yeah I was just getting to that. They could still theoretically be made to run interlaced though but I guess so could a plasma right? And none of them can.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 09:29:24 2017 No.3877870

>>3877820
>each pixel has its own electron beam

Wouldn't that just be a convoluted way of making a display that's functionally equivalent to a LCD? I mean, a big part about CRTs is that you can mess around with timings and get all kinds of scan line counts and refresh rates and stuff, but that would be fixed. You'd also lose the ability to just shove an arbitrary amount of horizontal information into each scanline.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 09:55:52 2017 No.3877889 >>3877870 the main goals back then were to have the same color range, black level and reaction times while cutting on size. You have to remember how bad LCD were back then.

babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Thu Mar 23 10:15:44 2017 No.3877904

>>3877870
AFAIK you could still theoretically do that you'd just be stuffing them into the "surface conduction electron emitter" with higher density or "refresh rates" or whatever. I don't fully understand it plus a lot of it is still secret developing technology. Like in a perfect world the thing would have 4k physical resolution and to use an extreme hypothetical, if it got a 240p signal it'd run that actual scan pattern through the surface - but that might be a pipe dream. Time will tell or probably not

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 12:11:25 2017 No.3878069

>>3877823
>>3877870
What these guys said.

SED/FED were essentially just miniaturised and updated versions of age old Jumbotron type technology. I don't believe they'd even reach the sort of pixel densities consumers now demand.

There are laser scanning technologies which better replicate CRT image forming capabilities but again they seem to have fallen by the wayside.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 13:58:29 2017 No.3878240 >still no PSA in the OP about HD/100hz CRT TVs >still no quick answer to "how to do connect my pc to my TV" in the OP Every time I come back to this general it's the same shit. This could be prevented.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 14:05:06 2017 No.3878252 >>3878240 feel free to add your pasta (ツ)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 15:47:49 2017 No.3878436 Would it be stupid to spend $40-$50 on a 13" JVC with s-video and composite only?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 15:50:32 2017 No.3878441 >>3878436 Professional JVC not a consumer one

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:12:26 2017 No.3878476 >>3878436 in good shape, no. JVC S-video processing is excellent, so be sure to adapt your consoles

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:21:59 2017 No.3878484 >>3878476 It looks to be in pretty good shape and it's a fairly short drive from me so I can easily inspect it in person

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:59:47 2017 No.3878545 >>3877834 you'd think with all the pvm and extron users out there it would be cheaper to bypass the scart entirely

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:07:15 2017 No.3878563 File: 44 KB, 600x800, $_3 (8).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Threadly reminder not to fall for the Trinicon

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Thu Mar 23 17:09:58 2017 No.3878571 File: 47 KB, 640x480, 121387[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3878563 Shit, I wish I had pried the badge off the Trinicon I encountered at the thrift store.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:13:08 2017 No.3878575 File: 20 KB, 500x333, Carlos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3878563 You could say they're working a con

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 18:36:28 2017 No.3878708 >>3878575 CARLOS!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 18:44:57 2017 No.3878714 File: 9 KB, 160x225, typhon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3878575 Poor display of wit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 19:59:42 2017 No.3878823 I found a toshiba BBE with a cut power cord in my parking lot today, are they any good?Is it worth me fixing it and carrying it to the 3rd floor?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:08:19 2017 No.3878835 >>3878823 Flat screen? It belongs in the trash

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:13:27 2017 No.3878848 >>3878835 dam not even for PS2/gamecube?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:08:52 2017 No.3879424 How would one best store a crt in a house? Live in uk so climates never get extreme.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:16:23 2017 No.3879436 Yesterday I got a Hitachi Ultravision 60SX12B 46-inch for free. Did I do good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:19:58 2017 No.3879441 >>3878848 They're not that bad, they will just likely have terrible geometry. One with a cut power cord is pointless unless you actually know what you're doing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:21:10 2017 No.3879442 >>3879436 If I say yes will you play games on it and enjoy it?

Kya !kDashing02 Fri Mar 24 00:30:50 2017 No.3879460

>>3879424
Somewhere with consistent conditions would be preferable, so no wild swings in temp/humidity/etc.

Anywhere with relativelymoderate temperature and humidity would be best, but CRTs are relatively sturdy when it comes to storage conditions.

>>3879436
>Rear Projection
Ehh
At least it was free.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:31:54 2017 No.3879463 >>3879441 my fat friend that is an electrician at a hardware store is going to fix it and I already have 2 PVM-1354Q for my super famicon and saturn.

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:33:02 2017 No.3879469
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My 1999 BVM has a bit of vsync jitter - about 1/2 a 240p scanline. It's not too bad after it warms up, but I'm on a quest to remove it completely.

Replacing the rail caps next to the vertical deflection IC didn't change anything, I'm going to try replacing the charge pump cap next.

The caps were in need of replacement though - measured 38µF and 16.3 ohms, compared to 86µF and 0.97 ohms for the replacement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:46:49 2017 No.3879514 >>3879463 It just seems like such a hassle for a CRT when they're often free. But it depends on your city I guess.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 01:04:21 2017 No.3879551 >>3879436 >rear projection

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 01:17:44 2017 No.3879581 >>3879514 well my problem is that I don't have a vehicle so I can't just go and drive to pick up crts and i'm not going to go into any trains with an crt

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 07:41:48 2017 No.3879939

>>3878835
>>3879441
This meme is getting out of hand. All CRTs have 'bad geometry' by modern definition, it's just part of the deal. Flatscreen (standard definition, to clarify) CRTs tend to have fewer hours on them and be newer in general, not to mention they often have component and/or s-video inputs. They're pretty nice screens dude. I don't have one anymore, but I used one all through college for my retro shit (and my X360) and it was rad. They're certainly not trash worthy and at worst they're decent consumer CRTs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 07:42:20 2017 No.3879940 >>3879581 I've done public transit with a CRT, would absolutely not recommend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:38:40 2017 No.3879973 >>3879939 This. The hatred towards flat screens is absolutely irrational. I used one for pretty much every game I played from 2009-2014. It was fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 10:37:03 2017 No.3880094 >>3879469 I hope you didn't measure caps while they're on the board...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 11:53:43 2017 No.3880217 >>3879939 >>3879973 You'll never get a flat look as good as a round one. It's not irrational hatred, flats look bad by default. They're also way heavier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 12:02:16 2017 No.3880232 >>3880217 >never get a flat look as good as a round one >flats look bad by default 2 for 3 on completely subjective statements. I personally prefer curved tubes, but the hatred here for SD flats is absolutely irrational.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 12:04:08 2017 No.3880241 >>3880232 Obviously I was talking about geometry and that's not subjective.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 12:09:05 2017 No.3880258 >>3880217 They all need to be taken on a case-by-case basis. You can't say they all look bad, because they don't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 12:14:18 2017 No.3880265 >>3880217 >>3880232 >>3879939 >>3879973 Chill guys I already have my PVMs for my rgb autismo signals, I'm just fixing this so I can play multiplayer with my friends and siblings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:40:25 2017 No.3880689 im probably picking up a PVM over the weekend from someone who has a handful of them. anything specific I should look for when picking one out other then the obvious (rgb, size)

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 16:09:32 2017 No.3880754 >>3880689 bring something to test the monitors with. see if any are multisync

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Fri Mar 24 17:01:35 2017 No.3880845 File: 2.29 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20170324_164430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just passed on this one

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 21:46:10 2017 No.3881395 >>3879973 >hatred stop using words when you don't know what they mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:10:26 2017 No.3881501 File: 40 KB, 590x454, willkillu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3881395 Excuse me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:31:55 2017 No.3881539 Are all pvm super noisy? I had a chance to play on one and that crt whine was so annoying. I thought you weren't supposed to notice it as you get older, but I'm in my thirties and I could hear it from every room

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:32:38 2017 No.3881541 >>3881539 All of mine are way, way worse than my consumer sets. Bizarrely so.

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 00:35:16 2017 No.3881635

>>3881539
My BVM has a quite loud whine, I think pretty much no effort was made to make them quiet. Plus they use rather high acceleration and horizontal voltages. I'm not sure what the source of noise is. I'm considering baffling the sides of my BVM and then adding forced air in the back to quell some of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 00:43:57 2017 No.3881649 File: 613 KB, 1600x1374, 20170324_0003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >watching a trinitron ona trinitron

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 00:45:19 2017 No.3881654 File: 382 KB, 685x1600, 20170324_0014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3880094 Of course not. (arguably measuring at 120hz might be "better" for bulk storage caps, but meh)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 00:47:19 2017 No.3881659 File: 65 KB, 554x476, 1483512975227.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3881649 dood.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:14:09 2017 No.3881689 File: 3.82 MB, 2500x1406, 20170325_0106392.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:23:37 2017 No.3881705 File: 420 KB, 1600x1200, BushCVB100LARGE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3881649 anime and cartoons on crts is the best

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:25:03 2017 No.3881710 >>3881705 What do you play your cartoons off of? Also does anyone know where to find high quality 80's and 90's boxing matches?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:29:02 2017 No.3881720 >>3881710 Not that poster, but I have a big screen CRT I rescued from an old bar when it was closing. It's one of those plain grey Phillips TVs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:31:03 2017 No.3881725 >>3881720 Sorry should've been more specific. What media device do you use to playback old cartoons (VHS, DVD, laserdisc etc)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:33:52 2017 No.3881728 >>3881725 Not neither of those ppls, but for me I just hook up a Wii and watch Netflix and Hulu

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:38:11 2017 No.3881739

>>3881725
Phillips guy here.

I have a DVD player, a VHS player, and an xbox 360 with an amazon account. I can find almost anything between these three!

Watched Ralph Bakshi's Fire and Ice a few days back. The animation is so beautiful! The plot is just OK, though.

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:40:41 2017 No.3881747

>>3881725
I really want to collect laserdisc but I need to find a good player first. Most video and tv is in 480i but still looks better from a souce like dvd. I've tried hooking up my computer to rca composite and watch youtube on my crt but it looks pretty shit.

Kya !kDashing02 Sat Mar 25 01:59:05 2017 No.3881761

>>3881725
Wii is okay for SD content, but is a bit on the weak side, so you're stuck with avi/xvid encoding for the most part. PS3 is bretty gud, especially when paired with a decent PC to transcode stuff and stream it to the console; Also Netflix/Amazon Video.

Any display 480p+ is just best off paired with PC unless the PS3 is considerably more convenient.

There are also a few digital converter boxes out there that also act as DVR/PVRs that can do the job relatively well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 02:06:18 2017 No.3881768 >>3881761 >>3881728 you guys shouldnt really watch Netflex anymore unless you like sjw comedies. They also have a really shitty anime selection.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 02:07:56 2017 No.3881771 >>3881768 >sjw comedies kys

Kya !kDashing02 Sat Mar 25 02:13:10 2017 No.3881772
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>>3881768
I don't even have a Netflix account, but I know it's something might care about.

I just tend to download and stream whatever I'm interested in from my PC. Or Bluray if that's your thing, since the PS3 will only do them at SD res over Component.

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 02:18:55 2017 No.3881774

>>3881728
this is an option I can dig, but was looking for a more retro idea.
>>3881739
this sounds like the most obvious solution but not as vintage glamorous as I'd imagine.
>>3881747
same some anon in the other thread mentioned laserdiscs and it got my mind running. Been searching around for a good player as well but it seems like there's a lot of issues with discs and players.
>>3881761
I feel like if I'm going to use the PS3 I might as well forfeit and use my modern tv.

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Sat Mar 25 02:23:07 2017 No.3881781 File: 1.25 MB, 3280x2460, 101_0156.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3881774 >a more retro idea. Get a hold of the Saturn's MPEG decoder, and just burn everything as VCDs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 02:50:18 2017 No.3881803 File: 237 KB, 1600x581, 20170324_0025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3881710 pic is what's playing in >>3881649

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 06:40:48 2017 No.3882060 >>3881781 those saturn mpeg decoder cards are too expensive unfortunately

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 06:42:39 2017 No.3882062 >>3881771 you first

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 06:46:42 2017 No.3882067 >>3881772 >>3881761 How do you stream stuff from the PC to the ps3? I dont own a ps3 btw.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 06:54:32 2017 No.3882076 >>3881803 NICE best way to watch those ovas

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 06:55:28 2017 No.3882081 File: 23 KB, 640x480, psxback.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3882060 These are dirt cheap

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 07:18:33 2017 No.3882116 >>3882067 Ps3 media server. Your pc and ps3 has to be on the same local network in order for it to work. You will also need a decent PC so that it can transcode your content fast enough for you PS3 to display.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 08:01:06 2017 No.3882190 File: 668 KB, 720x1280, IMG_20170325_065922.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 08:10:47 2017 No.3882202 File: 1.30 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Picked up a JVC-VM-R200PSN and it seems to be stuck in 16:9. Can't see a way to change to 4:3

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 08:11:53 2017 No.3882204 File: 1.18 MB, 3264x2448, image (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3882202 can't see a menu button or anything. moving the V.Hold just puts it out of sync or whatever

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 08:39:33 2017 No.3882231

>>3882116
It's just picking up a DHCP server right? Should work with Plex, which is what I use as my server.
>>3881747
I collected LaserDiscs all through highschool. They're really fun, but finding good players is really difficult because they're not very fun to ship. Sadly I had to get rid of all mine when my parents sold the childhood home, I kept all my discs though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 08:40:34 2017 No.3882232 >>3882202 weird it's also upsidedown

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 08:43:55 2017 No.3882235 >>3882231 Not sure If it works with Plex but give it a shot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 09:29:31 2017 No.3882275 File: 266 KB, 2048x1152, ikegamitm1417r.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is ikegami so much better than sony

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 09:32:53 2017 No.3882282 >>3882275 they were actually in the video game business, so they knew what was up

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 09:36:36 2017 No.3882283 >>3882282 they were? Didn't they just produce either security monitors or insane high end film studio equipment?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 09:41:16 2017 No.3882290 >>3882204 Take a picture of the other side of the control panel

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 09:42:19 2017 No.3882292 >>3882283 No they weren't. Fanboy is an eedjit.

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 09:50:12 2017 No.3882296

>>3882283
>According to some sources [2][3][4][5] in the early 80s, Ikegami developed a number of arcade games as a subcontractor to Japanese video game companies. Among the games they may have developed are Computer Othello, Block Fever, Monkey Magic, Congo Bongo, Popeye, Donkey Kong, Radar Scope, Sheriff, Space Fever, Space Firebird, Space Demon, Heli Fire, Sky Skipper, Space Launcher and Zaxxon.[2] At that time, computer programs were not recognized as copyrightable material. According to these sources, Ikegami proceeded to sue Nintendo for unauthorized duplication of the Donkey Kong program code for the latter's creation of Donkey Kong Junior (1983, Tokyo District Court), but it was not until 1989 that the Tokyo High Court gave a verdict that acknowledged the originality of program code. In 1990, Ikegami and Nintendo reached a settlement, terms of which were never disclosed.[6]

It's speculated they did some important shit. That's from Wikipedia, but I think it's pretty widely believed they at least coded Donkey Kong and some other Nintendo arcade games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 11:15:10 2017 No.3882383 >>3882275 Where do you find ikegami's Or jvc's

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 12:00:17 2017 No.3882469 >>3882383 Government surplus auctions, ebay, trump tower

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 12:51:20 2017 No.3882523 File: 1.38 MB, 3264x1836, SOR 2 on sonic screen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I dunno how you guys feel about TFT LCD displays but I found a 7" one at a thrift store, only $5.N64 games look more decent on this then the HDTV.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 13:38:14 2017 No.3882559 >>3882523 That looks surprisingly nice, hows the input lag?

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Sat Mar 25 13:43:13 2017 No.3882565 >>3882523 I have a 18 inch 640x480 native TFT with component inputs just sitting around that I haven't even started messing with yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 13:55:17 2017 No.3882581 File: 1.82 MB, 3264x1836, 20170127_195320.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Muh trinitron Love this CRT No idea why photo os posting sideways though

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 13:59:11 2017 No.3882587 >>3882581 4chan strips EXIF data which has the orientation in it. Prevents doxxing with GPS data, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 14:00:31 2017 No.3882590 >>3882581 4chan is anti-vertical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB7MmIGaNdQ because they scrub EXIF data since idiots literally will not disable geotags

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 17:38:55 2017 No.3882926 >>3882581 >HD CRT TV into the fucking trash

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 17:46:01 2017 No.3882936 >>3882587 Since when has 4chan been doing that? Damn. If you post a pic with EXIF data on Krautchan the mouseover reveals all the data.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 20:08:52 2017 No.3883243 File: 467 KB, 595x326, seganet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone know where to get my PVMs calibrated in Southeastern WI or the Chicago land area? I really don't want to get electrocuted lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 20:28:00 2017 No.3883290 File: 2.21 MB, 3648x2736, DSCF0035.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3882290 late response inc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 21:00:44 2017 No.3883350 >>3883290 >scan: wide boy do i wonder what this button does

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 21:06:41 2017 No.3883356 File: 2.13 MB, 3648x2736, DSCF0044.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3883350 Pillarboxes it as well as letterboxing

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 21:19:50 2017 No.3883375 >>3882936 I was absent from 4chan between like, 2009 and 2016, so I have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 21:21:36 2017 No.3883380 >>3882590 also, fuck that video and fuck vertical video jesus

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 21:36:35 2017 No.3883405

>>3882383
Rumour says Old Parliament House in Aus used to be full of them, changed over every two years, and used only for Question Time. I have a 10" set that supposedly came from there. The ABC would just sell them on, or so i heard, so there might be some around.

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 22:18:56 2017 No.3883501
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>>3883356
the front can be unscrewed and pulled out and shows a bunch of switches, don't want to fuck anything up, any educated guesses what any of these do?
"comp level"
"afc"
"matrix"
"notch"
"tally"
"service"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 22:23:24 2017 No.3883507 >>3883501 flipped them all, none of them did anything except for service which turned the screen black with a white line going through the middle

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:10:55 2017 No.3883614 >>3883507 Try service menu

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:21:00 2017 No.3883634 >>3880845 >component Won't this have input lag?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:27:27 2017 No.3883643 >>3883501 Fixed. Geometry was fucked, whoever had this before me decided to change the vertical height so that it was letterboxed for whatever fucking reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:40:31 2017 No.3883669 >>3883634 It looks SD, so most likely just 480i. No lag noticeable from 240p to 480i, and perfect for consoles with native component.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:43:47 2017 No.3883675 File: 151 KB, 500x425, commodore 1072 monitor.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I found a Commodore Model 1702 on the curb in a neighborhood. It works fine, only thing is its missing the lid that covers the buttons. Pic not mine.

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 23:58:04 2017 No.3883703
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>>3876442
21" optiquest monitor. run 1480x1050 @75hz. i was wondering what the fuck them tests where, where they were like, scroll this up and down really fast and you'll see purple, and it would be sqauares like a checker board of like idk green and yellow or some shit then i would do it and be like fuck you. but now i know, how many morons switched while i hunt down these. got this from a photo shop put an ad in a local craigslist type thing. contrast is getting weak but fuck you its still sweat, its not cheap, and sharp, its like all this space but pepole seem to think only sideways is useful or something .. or something

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 00:17:27 2017 No.3883732

>>3883675
You'll want to get one of these so that you can use s-video with it (or make your own):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-Commodore-S-Video-Adapter-S-Video-to-Split-Chroma-Luma-Video-/332091076187

Pretty good monitor, I have a 1701 I use sometimes.

Kya !kDashing02 Sun Mar 26 01:13:48 2017 No.3883815

>>3882067
>>3882116
>>3882231
I use Universal Media Server, but it's pretty much the same thing as P(S3)MS.

>>3882936
A little while before the handover to hiroshimoot. I want to say /p/ still has exif info available, for the proper reasons.

>>3883501
Notch toggles the notch filter for composite inputs,
Tally likely toggles a tally light on the top of the monitor

Comp Level I would assume is for adjusting Pedestal/Black Level, either 7.5 or 0 IRE.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 01:48:32 2017 No.3883880
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Currently, I have my PS2 and Wii connected to a PVM through one of those universal component cables.

Swapping between the two is kind of a pain, and the Wii side of things seems to be a bit fucked so I wanna pick up individual component cables for the two.

Question is, would I still be able to get RGB through PS2's component if it went through a switch?

And if so, how useful would a scart to component adapter be for SNES? Would it look like shit, let alone even function?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 01:59:59 2017 No.3883897 >>3883675 I used that monitor for everything from the NES to the PS3/360

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 02:00:27 2017 No.3883898

>>3883880
you can get PS2 (or ps1 if you want) rgb really easily with RCA cables. You can get the guncon adapter or a ps1 multiout and just use the composite video port to send the sync signal. If you're using a third party switch, you'll need one which will still send the composite signal from your PS2 - a decent component cable should preserve that signal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 02:11:13 2017 No.3883919 >>3883880 >>3883898 PVM should be able to get sync on green RGB from the PS2, so you can just run regular component cables, switch the PS2 to RGB, and the PVM to internal sync.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 02:27:51 2017 No.3883940 >>3883897 Could you even read the text on those PS3/360 games? That's the only reason I bought a LCD, couldn't handle the blur.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 02:48:36 2017 No.3883965 What is the best video card to get that will allow me to hook up my PC to my CRT through component? I'm going to use it to play PS1 games. Or am I better off getting a modded PS1 even though my TV doesn't have S-Video?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 04:35:27 2017 No.3884121 >>3883919 SoG only works on 480p output fyi. >>3883898 is correct.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 04:58:09 2017 No.3884151 >>3883880 Just get a PS3 component cable. They're mostly available, look sweet, and work great.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 05:02:17 2017 No.3884158
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Sorry if this is the wrong thread, I just want to ask if anyone knows what model my thrift store TV is. The label on the back isn't there and searching for color sentry doesn't list it at all. It only has coax for input.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 05:10:37 2017 No.3884180 >>3883965 Don't bother. Go RGB and get a transcoder.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 05:12:59 2017 No.3884187 >>3884158 looks like an old zenith "system" series. https://www.google.com/search?q=zenith+digital+system+3&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZncbh6fPSAhUMzGMKHRMOCbsQ_AUIBygC&biw=1366&bih=657#tbm=isch&q=zenith+system+3&*

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 05:26:16 2017 No.3884213 >>3884180 well my TV only has component and composite inputs (and RF but im never using that) so I have no idea if it can take RGB (its a sony trinitron btw).

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 07:12:28 2017 No.3884339

>>3884213
Your set won't take RGB as it stands. The transcoder would be an RGB-to-Component job. Using RGB from your PC (easiest via a Radeon card and crt_emudriver - google it) will give you the cleanest image you can get, and a decent transcoder will give you the second-best result from there. There will be cables involved as well, so factor that into the cost.

This is assuming you want to emulate and not get the PS1 you mentioned. At a guess, the method above would be a slightly nicer picture than composite from a PS1, and will give you many more options down the line such as MAME and other emulators. It will mean an amount of reading, and spending possibly a bit more. A PS2 with a component cable would also work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 07:23:11 2017 No.3884346 >>3884339 >transcoder Ah dang they're pretty expensive I think im just gonna settle for a PS1 through composite. thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 12:16:39 2017 No.3884680 >>3883634 >>component >Won't this have input lag? I've heard people say this from multiple places now. Who the fuck is spreading misinformation this time?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 12:21:07 2017 No.3884685 File: 76 KB, 256x256, 50bf5070303fe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3883675 I bought a Commodore 64 the other day for 30$ Now I just need the monitor but they are way too rare in Canada.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 14:27:47 2017 No.3884906 >>3884680 This is not false. Component has lag. Everyone stop getting CRT's with component output. Stick to Composite. If you own a tv with component put it on Craigslist immediately for free.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 14:48:20 2017 No.3884942 >>3884685 >Now I just need the monitor Nah. Just get a TV with S-Video and the appropriate cable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 14:56:15 2017 No.3884958 >>3884906 >output this triggers me more than anything else about your post

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 15:49:06 2017 No.3885040 Should i get a pvm that only has s-video or is rgb that worth it that i should hold out. Right now i'm a composite only fag

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 16:40:19 2017 No.3885136

>>3885040
S-video is a huge bump on a CRT, honestly not a huge difference from RGB. If you're in the US and don't want to spend $100s on SCART garbage, s-vid is the way to go. I run most everything in composite myself; despite having some RGB capable gear and consoles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 16:50:08 2017 No.3885146 >>3884958 but anon is right, I plugged a console into my tv's component output and nothing showed up on screen, it is really laggy

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 17:00:05 2017 No.3885161 >>3885040 There's little reason to get a PVM if you're just going to use s-video. There's nothing wrong with sticking to consumer TVs in that case.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 17:09:24 2017 No.3885170 >>3885146 Exactly. Component is just a meme made up by some yahoo. RGB or bust right guys?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 17:10:15 2017 No.3885171 >>3885040 If it's under $60 or so, go for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 17:50:36 2017 No.3885230 >>3885161 s-video on a pvm is still great, so if you get an s-video only model it's not exactly a waste if you get it for cheap.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:21:00 2017 No.3885542 File: 3.80 MB, 4096x3072, P_20160323_093213_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3885161 JVC S-Video is nothing short of fantastic

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:40:18 2017 No.3885569 >>3885542 JVC monitors S-Video, I should have said

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:02:48 2017 No.3885606 >>3885542 Is that a saturn or a dreamcast?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:06:45 2017 No.3885609 >>3885606 An MD :^)

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:32:44 2017 No.3885660

I picked up an RGB monitor recently but am confused about cables. I have a regular csync NTSC US snes currently hooked up to a regular CRT with a cheap S Video cable.

Does it matter whether I get Euro/Jap cables? Anyone have any US seller links for the Snes to SCART and SCART to RGB BNC cables?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:35:17 2017 No.3885662 >>3885660 for SNES yes, you need the cable adapted to your console region (PAL or NA/JP NTSC)

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:41:19 2017 No.3885673

>>3885662
So if I were to purchase this linked from the RGB site

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201284360714

It says in descrip is for US snes. Does my SCART to BNC cable need to also be US specific? Or just NTSC? Every one of these adapters I see either just say Euro or JP Ntsc

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:42:02 2017 No.3885674 >>3885609 Those copyright dates really threw me for a loop.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:43:04 2017 No.3885676 >>3885673 Cannot use Jap scart adapter

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:47:06 2017 No.3885679 >>3885676 So I'd go for the ones listed as "Euro NTSC"?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:53:15 2017 No.3885686 >>3885674 that's the fantrad release date

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:18:16 2017 No.3885736 >>3885679 Yes. If you want to learn for yourself, look up the difference between the cables. Somewhere like retrorgb.com or something will probably say.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:46:43 2017 No.3885774

GUYS

I have a 20M4U, but I've kept it in a backroom I've converted into a game room. The room has grown two patches of black mold on seperate walls about three months ago. However, the mold hasn't spread for about two and a half months..

Would it be safe to move the 20M4U it into other rooms without fear of it being contaminated with mold spores, or is it fucked?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:37:01 2017 No.3885831 >>3885774 Just get in there. Put it in a room with a dehumidifier. Don't bother paying for mold repairs on the room. If you've been living with it just continue on with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:39:39 2017 No.3885832 >>3885542 Legit question: How do you all take such clear pictures of your CRTs without the refresh rate mucking with it and having lines all over the screen?

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Mar 27 00:47:53 2017 No.3885847
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>>3885832
Trial and error, and often manual mode on your camera for adjusting shutter speed and the like.

Even that doesn't guarantee it though; Really helps to learn how your camera plays with a CRT.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:17:22 2017 No.3885909 >>3885847 Also, taking closeups like this is a lot easier. A full screen shot requires either perfect timing, or an exposure much longer than 1 frame (mandating a still image and tripod)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:18:38 2017 No.3885912 File: 18 KB, 1068x860, Screenshot from 2017-03-26 22-15-30.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will it print?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:21:22 2017 No.3885917 File: 371 KB, 1600x1155, 20170326_0007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3885912 Yes it will!

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Mar 27 01:25:01 2017 No.3885924
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>>3885909
>A full screen shot requires either perfect timing, or an exposure much longer than 1 frame
That's where shutter speed adjustments come into play.

The beam shadow is also sometimes still visible, but just happens to blend in relatively well and isn't as noticeable.

>>3885917
>3D printed rack ears
Good shit. Looks like you might have cracked it a bit on the bottom though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:28:35 2017 No.3885930 >>3885912 >>3885917 Just use some steel or wood even instead, should be much stronger

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:32:57 2017 No.3885938 >>3885774 Spray it down with disinfectant before moving. You can kill the mold on the walls with a mild bleach spray.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:35:38 2017 No.3885945

>>3885924
It's just a hair in the screw, luckily.

>>3885930
It's plenty strong as is, if I had wanted even more strength I would have printed it with more infill or made it thicker. Why bother cutting and drilling when I can just click a button instead?

Do wish I had a better matching color, it looks acceptable with 2700K room lights but the camera flash reveals all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:38:59 2017 No.3885951 File: 600 KB, 2048x1152, 1490593093122-1785780394.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey guys, if anyone can help with my pvm I'd really appreciate it... it has a sync problem that came out of nowhere. Here is what the back looks like

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:40:19 2017 No.3885952 File: 771 KB, 2048x1152, 1490593202699-1547008770.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo it just fixed itself......

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:42:55 2017 No.3885960 All I had to do was slap the top of it.... damn

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:29:11 2017 No.3886216
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I'd love to get some real world images of CRTs displaying Super mario Bros, Zelda, and Castlevania. Mostly wondering to see how they compare to these emulator palettes. Images like this: >>3876450

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:44:12 2017 No.3886439 >>3877807 Do these work well? Is there any reason to not get this over a SCART+Adapter other than price and international shipping?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:36:08 2017 No.3886484

>>3886439
The cables from that guy are pretty good quality. Would recommend.
The only advantage would probably be that you don't need to fiddle around with dem fucking SCART connectors.
My RGB NES cable is for some reason always a little bit more lose than my other cables in the female scart port of my adapter cable and I sometimes get some picture distortion because of that (which is solved by firmly pushing it in again) but other than that, there's really no reason to get one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:43:12 2017 No.3886495 File: 22 KB, 640x480, bd8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't want to go 'hunting' for a CRT, can you guys just suggest the best brand, even model if you've got personal experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:44:40 2017 No.3886496 >>3886495 consumer? sony. pro? ikegami, but panasonic, jvc, and sony are all good. sony has inflated prices thanks to the pvmeme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:47:21 2017 No.3886497 >>3886495 If it has S-Video - get it If it has Component - get it If it has RGB - get it If it has Composite - consider

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:57:39 2017 No.3886517 >>3886496 >>3886497 Is there something I'm missing? Why are crts on Amazon hundreds of bucks? Aren't these things like $15 at Goodwill?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:01:36 2017 No.3886523 >>3886517 because people on amazon selling them are selling them used. Don't buy crt's on amazon.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:12:10 2017 No.3886542

>>3886517
Go ebay or CL so you can see pics. Theze prices are high because they were high end studio/hospital etc monitors to begin with and are coveted today for their good quality.

Go to goodwill and buy a nonshit brand rounded screen crt with s video input and youll be fine if you dont want RGB

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 12:52:46 2017 No.3886682 Does ps2 look better through component or s-video? I've heard it doesn't do component well.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 12:57:05 2017 No.3886693

>just moved in to new shithole
>no heat yet, freezing cold last night
>pretty much have all possessions in boxes in the front room
>get home late, had to go in to work for a few hours while moving
>also have to work the next morning
>first night at new place
>set up my mattress on the floor
>no cups or anything, so I sip a palm full of water
>i usually sleep with the TV on
>but no antenna or anything
>there's an old CRT TV in my room from the previous renters
>it's still plugged in and everthing
>turn it on
>go to my boxes I have in the front room, haven't unpacked yet
>grab out my PS1, and Final Fantasy 8
>get the cords out of my tangled cord box, anda controller
>hook it all up
>start a new game
>get to the point where you gain control of character
>music playing in the background as I sit in balamb classroom
>instantly fall asleep and headache goes away

It's not going to be so bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:14:44 2017 No.3886721 >>3886693 >Final Fantasy 8 I guess in your situation any game can seem good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:20:32 2017 No.3886730 File: 30 KB, 1050x576, maxresdefault (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3886721 Still hating on best FF? Was having shit taste part of your plan

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:23:05 2017 No.3886741 >>3886730 >a baneposter coming at my greentext defense pls stop, FF8 doesn't need defending.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:28:50 2017 No.3886753 >>3886721 Fuck you, FF8 is comfy as fuck before disc 2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:31:51 2017 No.3886758 >>3886753 disc 2 is comfy too once you get the group back together

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:40:47 2017 No.3886776 >>3886730 >>3886753 Just yanking your chain. Although I respectfully disagree.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:44:18 2017 No.3886783

Crt bros i need some assistance. I would like to get a splitter for all my svideo and component cables. I have nice cables but in worried there will be video quality loss due to the splitter not having good shielding or quality parts. Is my concern warranted?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:47:18 2017 No.3886789 >>3886783 >crt >caring about quality why don't you just go to HDMI already?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:30:04 2017 No.3886862 >>3886789 Because i cant solder well enough to attempt that. And i dislike the way it looks on hdtv

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:30:56 2017 No.3886865 >>3886495 You can't just get specific CRTs. You only get what you can find.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 16:29:32 2017 No.3887115 How do I plug in my component cables to my PVM for my Wii? Do I use the Line A or Line B section, what? My BNC plugs connecting to my SCART switch already take up the RGB slots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 16:31:47 2017 No.3887125 I can't wait for all CRT's to die. I'm so glad the tubes are aging slowly but surely.

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Mon Mar 27 16:32:09 2017 No.3887128 >>3887115 Whichever input has /Y /Pb and /Pr after the RGB labels

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 16:32:59 2017 No.3887135

My 1988 BVM1910 had the picture go today while playing SNES. Screen got tight together, like 1 inch, then It clicked the power light off. I turned it on after about 15 minutes and the picture went to the top and compressed. Now when I turn it on the power light doens't come on. Is it dead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 16:55:59 2017 No.3887182 >>3887125 There will always be parts around

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 17:20:18 2017 No.3887227 >>3885774 Get an ozone generator

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 18:32:08 2017 No.3887353 File: 406 KB, 2193x2617, 1479762294976.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3887135 >lost deflection >turned it back on

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 19:48:13 2017 No.3887483
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>>3885832
dark room
manual mode
1/60 shutter speed (1/30 for 480i)
no flash
focus and white point locked on the brightest whitest part (can be worth to slighlty lower the exposure)
burst mode so you can choose a pic where refresh line doesn't appear.

of course you might not have all manual setting available, depending on your camera/phone...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 20:36:13 2017 No.3887580 File: 1.19 MB, 2160x2160, 20170327_203331.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it possible to hook up my Wii using component cables to this output?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 20:57:14 2017 No.3887620 >>3887580 Yeah, that's what those are for, the 2 of each is looks like an input/output pair. Just match up your colors and it will likely work; SONY PVMs tend to do component without issue. Also, you feed video to an input, not an output.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 20:59:51 2017 No.3887626

>>3887620
Yeah. I have no idea why I said output, I've even trying but everytime I match the colors correctly the screen just turns in a Mish mash of green flying across the screen. The top of the panel has an "analog" section while the bottom has a "sync" section, anything to do with that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:02:43 2017 No.3887635 >>3887626 Take a picture of the button layout. Usually you have to switch it to take component instead of rgb, and then also set it to internal sync.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:11:31 2017 No.3887665 >>3887626 see >>3887635 This is exactly what I have to do with my sony, and adjust the hue a little because the color space between RGB/Component is different. Guarantee that PVM supports it though, it says it right on the inputs there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:38:13 2017 No.3887753 File: 1.42 MB, 2160x2160, 20170327_213633.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3887665 >>3887635 Is this what you want? I matched all the colors and switched it to component. I bet I have to do more though. Apologies for being difficult

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:43:12 2017 No.3887772
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Okay, so I found out that changing that setting just changes it to component on the button dedicated to RGb/Component. Only problem is that I already have a whole scart switch hooked into that slot. Any way I can get into the to do component in option 1?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:44:18 2017 No.3887776 >>3887772 looks like you've got red and blue switched up

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:45:35 2017 No.3887783 Would a 25" pvm look nice with only 560 tv lines?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:46:13 2017 No.3887785 >>3887776 Nah, that's how it goes, the input and outputs are under the color that's shown.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:47:34 2017 No.3887792 >>3887783 >+500 TVL >only

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:49:49 2017 No.3887801 >>3887753 I think so, mine doesn't have an on-screen menu and just a button, but you want your 'RGB mode' set to COMP and not RGB.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:50:20 2017 No.3887804 >>3887783 That would be like, insanely good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:51:26 2017 No.3887808 >>3887801 Yeah, it is set on the "RGB/COMP" button, I'm curious if I can get COMP under my "Option 1" button.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:52:34 2017 No.3887813 >>3887804 >>3887792 $300 good, though

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:53:26 2017 No.3887814 >>3887813 Depends on model and condition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:54:35 2017 No.3887819 >>3887813 Also, how would I get rgbs to connect to a db25

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 21:55:45 2017 No.3887823 >>3887814 2530, looks in as good condition as you could possibly expect

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 22:49:12 2017 No.3887928 This guy >>3887783 here Looking into it, a pvm 2530 is not a $300 set, so if I can't haggle him down I'll let it go.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 22:50:57 2017 No.3887934 >>3886216 It's hard to capture images of CRTs that accurately convey the color output.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:10:43 2017 No.3887976 >>3887135 Read Sam's CRT FAQ (really how is it not in the paste): http://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq.htm I hope you're prepared for some repair. If not, hope you can find someone to do it for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:12:52 2017 No.3887985 >>3887934 You can if you use a real ass camera Like a dslr

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:13:16 2017 No.3887989 >>3887753 Your Wii might be set to 480p on a 480i only monitor. But it still looks like you have failed to set it to component, because of the blue.

>>	Shoot Nation !NXTzzwkAyc Mon Mar 27 23:15:24 2017 No.3887995 Are the RCA Colortrak or Toshiba Black stripe decent TVs? I know next to nothing about CRTs so any help is appreciated dudes

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Mon Mar 27 23:17:21 2017 No.3888001 >>3887995 Those are both very old (composite) but good consumer TVs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:21:33 2017 No.3888012 >>3887985 Yeah, everyone has expensive cameras lying around.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:29:06 2017 No.3888030 File: 929 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_20170327-232744.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can anyone ID this TV? I need one on aesthetics alone

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:37:29 2017 No.3888047 >>3888030 it's some sony pvm, not a 20l5 but it looks similar and the option board slots look like later generation option boards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:38:57 2017 No.3888051 >>3888030 I think a 14n6u

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:43:47 2017 No.3888063 File: 102 KB, 640x480, 14l5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3888030 >>3888047 I think it's just a 14l5, something about it made the panels of the option board slot seem bigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:45:30 2017 No.3888069 >>3888063 >>3888051 >>3888047 Thanks guys, I wouldn't have even known where to start without your help

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:53:52 2017 No.3888091 File: 71 KB, 584x513, ikegamihtm2050r.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3888069 enjoy your tiny monitor if you can find one. I'll be here with my king.

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Mon Mar 27 23:56:51 2017 No.3888101 File: 216 KB, 1280x720, mbLIYXz[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3888091 Not everyone is a size queen, gosh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:58:47 2017 No.3888104 >>3888063 >>3888091 >>3888101 1/2" CRT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY7olqQF8iM

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:05:24 2017 No.3888115

>>3888101
These are neat. I collected camcorder viewfinder CRT's for a few years. Several half inch and a couple one inch models, all modified for composite input. I actually made a head mounted display with one connected to a raspberry pi.

They're actually tack sharp when fed a luma signal from something with S-video. Monochrome CRT's tend to have very high line counts since they don't have a shadow mask, and are only limited by the size of the phosphor grain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:17:16 2017 No.3888132 >>3888091 Where'd you find it

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:32:01 2017 No.3888152 File: 1.98 MB, 3492x4656, P_20170307_005632_vHDR_Auto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3888132 nowhere in particular

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:49:57 2017 No.3888179 >>3888030 I've been seeing more and more PVMs at melee tournaments. I wonder how many of them know more about CRTs than "they don't lag".

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:51:29 2017 No.3888183 >>3888091 dude you're talking to XC and XM owners... Speaking of which, where is that guy who promised XM29 screens...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:56:41 2017 No.3888187 >>3888179 given they used to play on shrek or sponge bob tvs, they're starting to learn. Now, if you thought monitor inflation was bad, wait until smash tax starts to apply...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:57:38 2017 No.3888190 >>3888187 >given they used to play on shrek or sponge bob tvs, they're starting to learn I'm more concerned about them playing on HD CRTs (which many do).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 01:02:21 2017 No.3888194 >>3888190 no one here want HD CRT TVs so it's fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:27:25 2017 No.3888262 >>3888190 Haven't started attending tourneys but when I do I'll refuse to play on an hdcrt

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 04:57:54 2017 No.3888429 >>3887976 Thanks for the link but that's all over my head. Looked around and nobody repairs CRTs around here. Too bad, had the best picture of all my CRTs. There's hazmat in the CRT right, I can't just toss it in the dumpster?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:21:12 2017 No.3888442

>>3887928
>Looking into it, a pvm 2530 is not a $300 set, so if I can't haggle him down I'll let it go.
Which really just proves you haven't seen one, and don't know what you're on about anyway. The 2530 is actually really fucking nice, at only 420TVL. There's a higher end model with the two blank post on the back filled, and it's 560TVL, but i can't remember the designation. That unit is worth $300. The 2530 itself might not be unless it's immaculate.

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Tue Mar 28 07:03:20 2017 No.3888525 >>3888429 >There's hazmat in the CRT right, I can't just toss it in the dumpster? At least see if you can find someone that might be willing to try their hand at fixing it or use it as a parts unit to fix up another one with a separate issue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 07:32:41 2017 No.3888543 >>3888152 >decorative cups >dolls Not too many girls coming over, I guess.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 09:03:28 2017 No.3888648

>>3888525
Ok I will hold off on tossing it. If I were to swap in a new component, what would it likely be? The place I got it from sells these and has more of the same model, so maybe I can get parts.

It seems like this one http://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq/tvpsitd.htm

Here's best what I can recall, which doesn't sound exactly like that faq page.

The picture was fine for the first minute after turning on, then it compressed horizontally, then vertically until it was in the top middle, with an offshoot of different colors. Then I turned it off. Turned it back on, did the same thing, so I pulled the trey and tried changing some of the buttons which didn't do anything except for the comb/trap filter button which made the picture go crazy but compressed horizontally, and humming. Then the power light went off even though the button was still in. Waited about 15 minutes and turned it on and it did the compressed horizontally thing again, which after a few seconds did the vertical compression. Then the light went out again and nothing. Waited about 45 minutes and the picture was black and white but normal size. Then it went compressed and kicked off again. That's where I left it. Sounds like the CRT itself is ok, but like that other poster with the mj pic pointed out, I probably ruined a bunch of stuff by trying it a few more times after it first went bad, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 09:13:42 2017 No.3888658 File: 3.10 MB, 4320x3240, SAM_0120.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I took the side off the dead bvm1910. Seems pretty easy to swap in a new module. But holy crap is there a lot going on. Looks more complex than my PC motherboard

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:05:31 2017 No.3888771 File: 190 KB, 800x600, 1482958219981.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.retrotink.com/ Component, S-Video and Composite adapter for the Raspberry Pi for 240p NTSC

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:12:27 2017 No.3888780 File: 2.70 MB, 3492x4656, P_20161230_195849_vHDR_Auto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3888543 they get excited when they hear how much they're worth ;)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:33:52 2017 No.3888803 >>3888780 >cotton teacups >beautiful Ikegami marry me anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:44:32 2017 No.3888817 >>3888803 I also have a giant advertisement poster (about 3 feet tall and two feet and change wide.) as for marriage, I'm not a faggot, so nope!

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:13:14 2017 No.3888851

>>3888780
>i spent my downsdollars on dolls ;)

Call it a hunch, but something tells me no one's ever been interested.
I imagine most people who have stayed around long enough for you to mention them were being nice, much like how people humored the retarded kids in school.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:15:38 2017 No.3888858 >>3888771 >$85 >for an adapter >for a computer worth $40 >adapter is more than double the price of the computer Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:22:33 2017 No.3888867 >>3888780 If you're going to flaunt an Ikegami, at least bother to adjust the geometry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:34:00 2017 No.3888891 >>3888858 pi shills know no limit to their foolishness

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:42:59 2017 No.3888909 >>3888867 That Ikegami faggot is getting as bad as Free20L5guy. Bets on how long before he trips up?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:38:21 2017 No.3888998 You wouldn't download a CRT

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:06:19 2017 No.3889224 >>3888909 Free20l5 guy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:24:50 2017 No.3889267 >>3889224 he got it for free :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:59:47 2017 No.3889330 File: 25 KB, 736x743, 1490221640867.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3889224 lol newfag

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:44:40 2017 No.3889623 File: 442 KB, 1080x608, MM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pulled it out of the basement, what I used back in the day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:25:51 2017 No.3889773 >>3889623 fix geometry please

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:46:57 2017 No.3889810 >>3889773 And make it less authentic?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:47:31 2017 No.3889812 >>3876612 I found an 11" component only PVM in my neighborhood for free.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:10:32 2017 No.3889858 What is the best non-HD crt with S-video and component? I only have lcd right now, so I will start my hunt for it

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:37:50 2017 No.3889895 >>3889858 Do not expect to be able to hunt for specific models. You just get the best you can find.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:42:25 2017 No.3889904 So, I bought a bandridge SCART switch and it seems like all my consoles run fun on it aside from my Genesis. I know the actual cable for my Genesis is fine and words on my TV when separately plugged, anyone know what the problem is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:43:26 2017 No.3889907 fine works Thanks, autocorrect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:56:30 2017 No.3889927 >>3889895 Well I thought people here could recommend me some specific models, to be on the look out if I happen to see one of them I know I should look for trinitron like the guide says, but would like to know which exact models are better than others

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:51:41 2017 No.3890001 File: 383 KB, 2304x1440, 20170328202834_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw your CRTs outlast you and your civilization and thousands of years into the future a robot in a clown costume starts hoarding them.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 23:23:38 2017 No.3890053
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>>3889927
Chances are the better consumer sets you'll come across are yes, Sony Trinitrons. Specifically the WEGA line is what you'll see a lot. Models KV-XXFS120/100. They might have flat screens (Bye bye to perfect geometry) but they have gorgeous S-Video and Component. I'm not sure if there are other Sony Trinitrons with Component support other than WEGAs and PVMs of course.

Pic related, Star Focks on my KV-24FS120.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 23:50:47 2017 No.3890094

>>3888909
Just stop. Nobody can be as bad as free20L5 guy. What made him so bad wasn't that he posted a lot of pictures of his setup, but that he was a smug rotten asshole who talked down to literally everyone and then hide behind Rick and Morty pics whenever he got called out on his shit, as if liking a decent show made him any less of an insufferable prick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 23:56:40 2017 No.3890107 >>3890053 This. 100/120 line are great, and easy to find too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 00:00:40 2017 No.3890117 >>3890053 I will add that model to my list, thank you What do you guys think of Toshiba 24AF45?

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 00:05:13 2017 No.3890128

>>3890117
>24AF45
Will be pretty good. Toshiba AF series are some of my favorite consumer CRT's. Should have Composite, S-Video and Component, as well as plenty of service menu adjustments to tweak the picture. I have a 14AF44 that's a wonderful desktop model.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 01:03:11 2017 No.3890186

>>3890094
True enough but you've got to remember that he started out the same way.

An anon posting endless pics of one single display and making out like anything else is shit. It's a known progression from that to hated tripfag unless the ego is smashed down early on.

Be warned.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 01:14:38 2017 No.3890207

I'm completely new to crt's, last time I had one I never cared about stuff like convergence and geometry. So today I've spent most of the day reading about how to service these things, and it's blowing my mind how complex it is to maintain and adjust the CRT.
I just got a trinitron a few days ago. Is it really just the norm for flat screens to have geometry that's off? I want to try and fix it. I know I need to get 240p test suite running on it. Then I just adjust the settings on the service menu using the images from the test suite, correct?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 01:22:13 2017 No.3890221 So, is there a preferred size for crts?

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 01:22:27 2017 No.3890224

>>3890186
damn this is some /b/ tier edge circa 2007.

>>3890207
yeah, flat screens won't have perfect geometry unless you have I think a bvmd##e or newer sony monitor. I remember a retired tech talking about how these store perfect geometry settings after being calibrated from the factory and can be restored to those settings. Some shit like that.

You may need to open up the chassis of the monitor to get the down and dirty adjustments, some displays let you tinker with everything in menus, some let you tinker with 80% of everything, some just 15% of everything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 01:26:37 2017 No.3890230 >>3890224 The one I got is a KV-13FS100. I was going to ask why I see some vids of people opening up monitors, when supposedly the service menu lets you adjust the geometry and whatnot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:06:36 2017 No.3890274 >>3890230 Oh, a 13-inch probably won't have any noticable geometry quirks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:34:38 2017 No.3890315 >>3890221 As big as you can lift without pulverizing spine segments. Which isn't all that big for most anons.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:35:43 2017 No.3890317

>>3889927
Silver trinitron buyers guide:
FS basic line 5w speakers, less inputs, not all have PIP
FV: Upmarket line. 15w speakers, more inputs, all have PIP
2 number models have manual 16:9 enhancement
3 number models have auto,

Seperated into tiers by the first number in the final number string, the higher the better in each line, but picture is about the same on all models except the FV310.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 04:41:59 2017 No.3890415 >>3889812 Ok, what's the model no.?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 07:24:55 2017 No.3890557 >>3890221 36-42" RGB input preferred. Mitsubishi or NEC.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 09:22:41 2017 No.3890637 >>3890557 >36-42" kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 14:01:26 2017 No.3891027 What is the cheapest solution for a mono monitor? I have bnc cables sith RCA audio but my monitor only accepts one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 14:12:35 2017 No.3891045 >>3891027 External PC speakers. Try and get an older pair since those are generally shielded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:14:40 2017 No.3891120 For emulating 320x200 DOS games, does setting my CRT resolution to 640x400 and running games at original resolution + doublescan give me an era-accurate picture?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:16:21 2017 No.3891125 Guy from Pixequip emails me back about whether he had daughterboards for a bvm1910 >Nothing inside your monitor is replaceable. You must take it to a tech stupid french canucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:36:13 2017 No.3891154 >>3891125 IT SAYS NO USER SERVICEABLE PARTS FOR A REASON YOU HOSER

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:50:16 2017 No.3891178 >>3891045 So I'd need a receiver for these then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:54:59 2017 No.3891187 >>3891178 No. Pc speakers tend to be active i.e they have their own (crappy) amplifier built in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 17:41:30 2017 No.3891384 File: 538 KB, 320x240, 1487128187700.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] After the best part of 3 years I think I may be very close to my personal CRT nirvana. Anyone else completely, or nearly, satisfied with their setup?

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 17:51:07 2017 No.3891395

>>3891384
not completely, but close. I still need an A24/32 or D24/32. But besides that, i love my 36 CRTs. Got a whole bunch of 20", 14" and 10" studio monitors, also have a range of different Commodore-monitors as well as PC-CRTs. Taking into account that i'm living in an one-room apartment it's more like a CRT hell, but whatever, i'm am addict.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 17:59:20 2017 No.3891408 >>3891395 Sounds like you're very much still searching and not ready to settle down yet. Do you have your desert island display?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 18:26:46 2017 No.3891447 File: 33 KB, 381x392, 9000cat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3891384 I RGB modded a C64 monitor Pretty much reached Nirvana.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 19:36:34 2017 No.3891535
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since the question of audio and speakers was raised what do you guys think is a good choice for retro audio?

pic related is so aesthetically pleasing and I don't want to blow out the speakers on my CRT. I know some anon around here has a killer speaker setup. Is a receiver a must? I would like something that can play tapes and cd's. I like the set I posted because it's not something thats considered crazy hifi so it won't cost me an arm and a leg but it was still really good back in the day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 19:41:16 2017 No.3891546 >>3891384 I'm just a 20L5 and a late run Ikegami, Panasonic and JVC away from satisfaction. Anything else is a bonus.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:37:43 2017 No.3891632

>>3891408
yes i'm still searching, but hey ... it's just a search for absolute perfection. I have 2 20" BVMs, 2 Barco 20" .. and several options in 14", studio and computer monitors. Most of them are RGB-capable and have a brilliant picture. It'd be happy with any of these on a desert island, though i would pick a most recent studio monitor für reliability. Them pirates won't bring me a new flyback.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 21:35:05 2017 No.3891759

>>3891384
Just started a month ago and got 2 20" JVC monitors, one is from the 80's and the colours and geometry aren't great but it has RGB, the other is from 2004 and looks really nice, but doesn't have the RGB card which is really expensive.
Want to get a PC CRT at some point and I'll keep looking for a 14L5 or 20L5 or maybe a BVM, but I'm ok with these JVC's for now

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 21:51:01 2017 No.3891784
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Saw this Sony CRT (apparently XBR) on my local Craigslist and was wondering if anyone had any experience with these. Has component and S-Video so I'd be playing PS1, SNES, N64 & Wii emulated games on it. I already have a decent CRT about tjis seems like an upgrade.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 23:07:20 2017 No.3891883

>>3891784
Doesn't look XBR to me, I had one like that and I was kind of shit desu. If you're going to get one of the flatscreen wegas be on the lookout for the ones with speakers on either side of screen instead of under it (FS100 or FS120, they're fucking everywhere).

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 23:16:41 2017 No.3891897 I can't get to find a Sony PVM where I live... anyone can bring me an alternative?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 23:31:05 2017 No.3891921 File: 78 KB, 784x704, crt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3891897 I found this 14" Bosch CRT at 18 dollars with the following connectors... is it worth it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 23:32:27 2017 No.3891924 File: 98 KB, 1200x676, connectors.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3891921 (continuation)

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 23:48:02 2017 No.3891945 File: 149 KB, 1123x1200, tv-sony-trinitron-42.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3891784 I found this listed on a page for my country, listed as xbr I wonder if its good

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 23:49:10 2017 No.3891947 >>3891924 Looks pretty fucked up, but I'd still pick it up for $18.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:10:50 2017 No.3891961 >>3891384 I have a 20L5 and a 14" PVM. All I want is an 80s 14" Trinitron TV and an NEC CRT computer monitor and then I'll be satisfied. For some reason those have been more difficult to obtain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:14:27 2017 No.3891965 My Goodwills seem to have stopped taking CRTs and they're drying up on craigslist. Can't find them at any local thrift shops either anymore. Is the golden age of free and cheap CRTs over?

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:17:47 2017 No.3891968

>>3891965
Looks like it's starting to be that way. No thrifts in my city have tubes anymore, and the only thing on craigslist are shit composite only magnavoxes and sanyos. I've got my collection pretty much set for the time being, but I still want a 36" SD and some larger HD set.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:50:44 2017 No.3891998 >>3891384 I am.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:55:39 2017 No.3892007 >>3891945 Almost certainly HD

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:58:05 2017 No.3892013 >>3884906 Good thing you're wrong. Component/YPbPr is just a signal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:59:12 2017 No.3892017 >>3891965 In before shitty, worn out, kitchen-tier CRTs are being sold as "L@@K RARE WOW!!! Retro gaming TV CRT television monitor FOR COLLECTORS nintendo sony sega HOLY GRAIL $199"

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 01:03:55 2017 No.3892026 Are ViewSonic computer monitors good for computer gaming?

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 01:11:33 2017 No.3892036

>>3891535
Your pic is gonna be pretty rubbish to be fair. Looks like an all-in-one midi system styled to look like separates, the height of late 80s-early 90s black plastic crap.

I use a 1978 Technics SA/SE-C01 pre-power combination into a pair of 1986 Sony APM-22ES MkII speakers. Enough power to thump the house down if needed with gread mids and highs. It alsi looks mint. Sorry no pics for the moment as my camera is playing up but search Technics Concise and the speakers and you should see all the specs on TVK. Cost me around $50 equivalent all in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 01:21:22 2017 No.3892051 File: 194 KB, 1200x675, tv-sony-trinitron.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3892007 Yeah

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 01:29:56 2017 No.3892058

>>3892036
This smells of audiophile bullshit. If the deck isn't broken and the speakers aren't already rotted or blown and are at least 2 or 3-ways it will be better than whatever shit is coming from the CRT's built-ins, and that's all that really matters for like 99% of anyone who isn't fucking crazy. If it were anything under 40 bucks and worked from a test source I'd say go for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 01:50:35 2017 No.3892076 File: 45 KB, 800x600, f1j9pv2ny7cvx09rpspz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3891535 This isn't my pic but it's what I use

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 02:26:45 2017 No.3892103

>>3892036
you'd be surprised, these things pack a punch, all in one systems are nice because they don't require wires running all over the place and speakers the size of a minifridge.

Late 80's early 90's black plastic crap is so good looking to me. I really don't feel like looking up some retro audio equipment that will costs me 100+ even though you only spent 50.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 02:41:41 2017 No.3892114 File: 218 KB, 640x1136, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone know if real

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 02:48:47 2017 No.3892120 >>3892114 I think anything over 2560x1920 is downright impossible due to most RAMDACs only having 400mhz of video bandwidth.

Kya !kDashing02 Thu Mar 30 03:35:07 2017 No.3892170

>>3891784
>>3891883
Nothing wrong with the FS13/17, which that looks to be. From that angle, probably a 36.

>>3892114
Looks like they're quoting an old version of something from /r/GloriousCRTMasterRace, which in turn was based off of some /g/ copypasta

Technically, mathematically, those resolutions would all fit into some of the frequency limits for the monitor in question (Iiyama 514Pro) which is in turn a tweaked Mitsubishi 2070SB.

It doesn't take into consideration real world limits in terms of what other components in the monitor can actually take, the maximum vertical refresh the monitor can take(the revised pasta changes this) or as >>3892120 said, that there is no commercially available GPU out there that could actually be expected to keep up with those due to the RAMDAC in said cards staying exactly the same for over a decade.

Or the fact that you wouldn't get any sort of gains from anything past 2048x1536 if not lower due to the limits of the tube itself, specifically the stripe pitch and the actual ability for the gun to actually focus in that well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 06:06:37 2017 No.3892302 >>3891447 Pics?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 09:26:39 2017 No.3892468 >>3891154 the "stupid user - don't touch anything inside" started in the 90s

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 09:34:01 2017 No.3892476 >>3892017 Dunno about that. People that have PVMs don't even know they're worth something. I called up some lady in NYC that was selling a 20" pvm for $50 or maybe it was $20. Don't overestimate the number of basement austists

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 09:43:32 2017 No.3892482 >>3892468 I've seen plenty of 80s gear with the same 'warnings'. Definitely got worse in the 90s though.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:22:02 2017 No.3892572
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>>3891154
Just bought this operating manual that says it contains "detailed schematics and repair information including valuable diagrams, waveform illustrations, test points and procedures"

I will let you know if it says not to touch anything inside

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:24:40 2017 No.3892578 >>3892572 did you really think my all caps canuck joke was in earnest?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:38:58 2017 No.3892592 >>3890221 10" to 25" inches is fine, anything bigger and you might need two people to carry it plus you have to make tons space for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:49:57 2017 No.3892604 >>3892578 Pretty obvious I took it srs.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:58:54 2017 No.3892703

>>3892058
Have you forgotten where you are? Why would you strive for the best lag-free picture possible and then settle for shitty sound?

>>3892103
I would take quite a sleeper system to surprise me as I've worked in various hifi dealerships over the past 20 years and know the difference between a crappy mini system and something decent. At least get a nice receiver and some proper speakers, it needn't cost an arm and a leg.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 14:13:50 2017 No.3892803

>>3892572
Any chance you can take pictures or scans of schematics or the whole manual? My 1910 stopped powering it on and I'm gonna take it to the local electronics guru to figure out everything that's wrong with it, but I'd like to give him something to work with so he doesn't have to go in blind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 16:21:08 2017 No.3892990 Can anyone recommend me a cheap SCART to Component converter?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 16:37:00 2017 No.3893027 >>3892990 NO

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 16:51:21 2017 No.3893070 Picked up a Trinitron KV-20V50 off of Craigslist today for $20. How'd I do /crt/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 16:53:31 2017 No.3893074 >>3893070 Does it work?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:03:52 2017 No.3893106 File: 86 KB, 535x722, ss+(2017-03-30+at+02.02.17).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3893074 Yup. It even came with a remote.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:09:21 2017 No.3893120 File: 119 KB, 1000x650, 56d36ce14dc9fc0edb57ace5a51618b5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3893106 My KX-27PS1 came with no remote. On the upside I already had a Logitech Harmony and it cost me a third of the price of yours.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:10:07 2017 No.3893121 >>3893027 Why?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:12:17 2017 No.3893128 >>3893121 Because there are literally none worth recommending.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:21:44 2017 No.3893159 >>3893120 Damn. Lucky find. This one was the only CRT I'd seen on Craigslist in months.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:33:26 2017 No.3893205 >>3893159 Sucks to be wherever you are I guess. My previous purchase was a BVM-20F1E for double what I paid for the Profeel. My reckless extravagance knows no bounds.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:40:21 2017 No.3893223

Do we have a list of recommended models? I'm fairly happy with my CRTs but I've been looking for a holy-grail of large, 4:3 CRTs, specifically consumer models.
Is there a list of the best of each category somewhere? Things like widescreen, HD, consumer, different sizes and stuff. This'd be really useful to have as a reference when hunting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:44:11 2017 No.3893234 >>3893223 there are too many models. The only things to really look for are TV or monitor inputs SD, HD, multiformat shadow mask or aperture grille

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:51:05 2017 No.3893250

>>3893234
I'm mostly wondering if there's a definite best few in each category. I currently own 4 CRTs- a Dell p990, Sony GDM-FW900, KVLM14u and 28fx68u. All I'm missing is a big 4:3 TV for multiplayer and the like, and it'd be useful to have a few recommended models to look out for.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 18:05:22 2017 No.3893282 >>3893128 I'm looking to connect my Genesis to my consumer CRT for 2 player stuff, what's the best way then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 18:10:03 2017 No.3893292 >>3893282 RF

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 18:50:53 2017 No.3893350 >>3893292 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 20:32:28 2017 No.3893524 >>3893282 How autistic are you? Composite is fine unless you want to go on an autism quest

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 20:33:35 2017 No.3893527 >3893524 >composite is fine (ツ)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 21:15:20 2017 No.3893606 >>3893524 >composite is fine Wrong thread anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:00:02 2017 No.3893675 >>3893606 there's more than a few of us here who are cool with composite. I have S-video and RGB capabke gear but I run composite on an 80s consumer set instead

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:02:23 2017 No.3893681 >3893675 good for you (ツ)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:11:36 2017 No.3893693 File: 35 KB, 500x375, sonic dogs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3893681 please stop doing that

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:25:49 2017 No.3893719 >>3892990 Anyone else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:27:31 2017 No.3893721 >3893693 having (You) cravings ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:40:41 2017 No.3893749 >>3893721 >still responding >thinks it doesn't count

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 23:18:15 2017 No.3893804 >>3892803 I can do that. Won't be here for a week or two, its coming media mail.

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Fri Mar 31 00:36:13 2017 No.3893896 >>3892990 Cheap? What is you're definition of cheap? http://www.ani-av.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=220 http://www.ebay.com/itm/191876964053

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 04:35:41 2017 No.3894129

>>3891384
Almost. I used to just want a pvm. Then realized I really wanted a multiformat bvm. Got a 20 inch bvm. Then realized I wanted a bigger screen. Got a 36 inch consumer set. Then realized I wanted a higher quality bigger set. Now I have my eyes set on a Sony d32 or a NEC36. I'll probably get rid of my bvm at that point. I've had a ton of different monitors in between all those.

I'm very very happy with my current setup. Specifically the 36inch. I don't know if I'll ever get a bigger presentation monitor or Sony. Every year that passes is another year that it's more unlikely. If I get the job I'm aiming for by the end of the year I'll fork over grands just to get a nec/Mitsubishi/Sony 30inches +

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:26:38 2017 No.3894231 >>3891535 better than tv speakers. tape deck or door will be broken or will break. Just get some cheap components from crags/thrift stores. I got kenwood bookshelf speakers and a denon receiver for $27

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:31:48 2017 No.3894237 File: 12 KB, 397x450, mitsu36er.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3891384 If I find a nice widescreen hdcrt with matching stand I will be. This is all I need for SD

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 07:18:21 2017 No.3894284 >>3892803 >>3893804 >>3892572 Isn't it going to be identical to the 2010 inside? Why not just grab that service manual free and find out?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 09:22:12 2017 No.3894489 There's a Sony Trinitron CRT on the hallway of my flat. KV-25C5E. Is this any good. It's so heavy that I'm not sure If I wanna carry it all the way up here. But If it's any good, I might pull it off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 09:25:59 2017 No.3894496 >>3894489 Looks like this. It has two scarts, compund holes, AV holes and DIN connection, which caught my eye desu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 09:27:03 2017 No.3894501 File: 20 KB, 600x429, -25312-185615.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894496 Forgot the picture..

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 09:31:02 2017 No.3894507 >>3894501 >>3894496 >>3894489 Looks pretty darn good to me. There's better, but not a huge amount better when it comes to consumer sets. Grab it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 09:35:12 2017 No.3894513
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>>3894489
>>3894496
>>3894501
I had the B version (french variant) for some time, it's pretty good. The menus are a bit weird, different than the usual, and the remote is a bit weird, double sided, might be rare. To me the 25" diagonal size is ideal, but the side speakers add a bit too much size.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:31:25 2017 No.3894605 Otherwise it's great, but it makes a high-pitched voice from time to time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:53:13 2017 No.3894651 >>3892803 Some changes to the bvm1910 caps http://www.colorist.org/archives/public/oldtig-mhonarc/1996/msg00104.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:53:41 2017 No.3894756 File: 1.28 MB, 2592x1456, IMG_20170331_184727828.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's that on the left top corner and how the get rid of it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:57:18 2017 No.3894761 >>3894756 OSD indicating that you are in RGB mode I don't know if you can without the remote

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:58:49 2017 No.3894765 >>3893896 Jesus, there's no AliExpress option for that kind of thing? I didn't realize they were so expensive. Thanks though anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:07:39 2017 No.3894782 >>3894765 shinybow one is pro stuff, and $75 coming off $220+ original price is a pretty good deal. judging by a quick search, the 1st one is a PoS though

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:08:42 2017 No.3894785 >>3894782 *the 2nd one

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:13:46 2017 No.3894793 File: 136 KB, 1024x714, 14359293.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3894761 >I don't know if you can without the remote Well fuck me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:40:20 2017 No.3894832 >>3894501 mfw just tried to take a peek to the insides of the telly with the help of a flashlight. All that dust. Should I try to blow them away?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:53:31 2017 No.3894850 >>3894793 The remote is the pretty common RM-883. I thought it was a wacky double-sided model but I remembered wrong. You need an original remote to trigger service menu anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:40:50 2017 No.3894908 >>3894850 >The remote is the pretty common RM-883 Ah, okay. Might go check a local recycling center then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:20:13 2017 No.3894984 >>3893804 Thanks, I really appreciate it! >>3894284 Interesting, I'll check this out. >>3894651 Oh shit that's a tasty piece of info, thanks for finding that. Hopefully I can get this beast up & running again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:43:46 2017 No.3895026 Are degaussing circuits hard on monitors?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:45:52 2017 No.3895028 Is degaussing bad for the monitor? Talking about the auto one that comes on each time it starts. Does it wear out the power supply or other components?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 15:16:10 2017 No.3895070 >>3895028 Unless you're constantly flicking it on and off like a two year old, no.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 15:57:37 2017 No.3895132 File: 139 KB, 640x480, CRT tv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gotta love my shitty phone camera

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:04:50 2017 No.3895149

>>3895028
Nope.
Related components are one PTC and possibly a relay (VGA monitors or 2000s TVs have them).
Degaussing is bad for magnetic media, that's why they should be kept away from any (color) CRT.

>>3895070
The degaussing coil is usually in series with an resistor that increases it's resistance when it gets hot (called a PTC) and the high current through the (16ohms) coil will heat up thus the magnetic field fades smoothly out. Repetitive power cycling will not break the coil but power supply and high voltage circuits will not like it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 21:01:02 2017 No.3895610 >>3895149 >Degaussing is bad for magnetic media So should I keep my Hard Drive modded PS2 further away from the TV?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 22:48:33 2017 No.3895870 where do I buy a pvm

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:06:15 2017 No.3895894 >>3895870 hospitals and tv stations?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:09:11 2017 No.3895896 >>3895894 that's like trying to buy a pair of scissors at a barber

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:12:22 2017 No.3895904 >>3895896 It worked for me, I just asked the IT guy in the hospital by my house and he sold me 2 13 inch PVMs

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:12:42 2017 No.3895906 >>3895610 that's optical media, it's fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:13:22 2017 No.3895908 >>3895904 how did you come into contact with the it guy? and how much did you pay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:15:14 2017 No.3895913 >>3895908 my friend worked at the hospital and he gave both of them for like 80 bucks

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:18:10 2017 No.3895919 >>3895913 I don't know anyone at a hospital or tv station

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:39:41 2017 No.3895949 File: 1.86 MB, 4032x3024, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are Sony sxrd looked well upon for rear projection televisions ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:05:05 2017 No.3895964 >>3895906 >HDD modded >optical >>3895610 you should probably space it a bit

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:36:18 2017 No.3895994 >>3895949 no rear projection tv is looked well upon

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:50:33 2017 No.3896012

>>3895949
Rear projection is fucking trash that was phased out quickly as soon as LCD and plasma improved for good reason. If you're looking for an HDTV but don't want to use an LCD/LED for whatever reason go with a late (i.e. 2007-onwards) plasma, they're pretty common.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 02:16:58 2017 No.3896072 >>3895610 Hmmm, you shouldn't leave it flat against the screen, but after that you probably don't need to be too anal. PC monitors were normally set next to old PCs, after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 02:51:03 2017 No.3896115 >>3895870 >>3895896 >>3895908 >>3895919 Read the pasta on pro-monitor hunting the OP. They called it CRT hunting, but really it's about PVMs and the like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 03:18:52 2017 No.3896145 >>3888012 >>3887985 >>3887934 >>3886216 It's also important to note that the colour you get out of CRT and old console will actually vary a lot so it's really the way to look at things.

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 09:13:06 2017 No.3896490
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>>3895919
Lots of PVMs still around. Usually its businesses in the film / TV industry that are reclaiming storage space. Hopefully they haven't done much research to see how autistic people can be about these things and thus the price will be low.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 11:00:03 2017 No.3896623 >>3896490 when they don't do research they straight up trash them.

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 14:29:09 2017 No.3896968

>>3896623
Sometimes they don't want to carry the heavy monitor or pay at a waste transfer station for disposing the hazmat. One lady in NYC was asking $50 on craigslist, and when I talked to her she was originally willing to take $25 but changed her mind after so many calls.
An OEV203 that I have I got fairly cheap from some medical place that had no idea people used them for gaming.
The guy looking for one should check dotmed, that's where I found the Olympus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 23:53:41 2017 No.3898019 Will this add any input lag or degrade the s-video quality than if I just plugged an s-video cord into my PVM? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NF5OJ6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:11:41 2017 No.3898041 nigger

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:19:07 2017 No.3898052
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I picked up this bad boy for $4. It was completely filthy, but it looks pretty nice after about 2 hours of cleaning it.

I ordered a UHF/VHF transformer and an RF modulator. It's a 1984 Montgomery Ward.

How'd I do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:20:52 2017 No.3898057 File: 1.72 MB, 1836x1836, 20170401_183658-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898052

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:22:43 2017 No.3898060 >>3898052 bad because it is black and white

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:35:40 2017 No.3898075 File: 486 KB, 1366x768, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this worth it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:46:27 2017 No.3898085 >>3898075 >y-you can still buy cheap pvm/bvms on ebay, I swear!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:00:26 2017 No.3898112 File: 1.46 MB, 1836x1836, 2017-04-01 23.41.29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898060 How about now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:20:20 2017 No.3898149 >>3898075 >128790

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:44:49 2017 No.3898180 >>3898149 i thought the hours was a little to high myself? Whats a good range?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:47:08 2017 No.3898185 >>3898052 >>3898057 I actually love these things, always post cool CRTs even if they're not ideal for games.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 02:27:58 2017 No.3898241

>>3898180
well, typically the tubes were replaced after 20-30K hours in the studio business. They last anywhere from 125-200K hours on average, the range for that is so wide because they just tend to show issues at that point. You may notice loud coil whining. Still, 128K hours is about 14 years. It's hard to believe the tube was active the entire time, as the operation time and CRT use time is different on these monitors, if it's not being sent a signal the tube isn't being used.

All the operation time means is there's been electricity flowing through the circuits on the board and the internal clock has been tracking it. It doesn't mean the tube's been powered and using that precious phosphor for that long.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:38:23 2017 No.3898375

>>3896968
>The guy looking for one should check dotmed, that's where I found the Olympus
ah yes
https://www.dotmed.com/listing/display-monitor/sony/pvm-8043md/2322551
>$300
the days of finding these things cheap are over

literally no hospital/tv station has old crts sitting around anymore, let alone ones they want to sell to some autist calling up and asking for the IT guy to search through storage to find one

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 06:49:31 2017 No.3898508

>>3898375
Dotmed sometimes you see $1000 for an old "endoscopy" monitor, sometimes $125 for the same thing. Here's some options No idea on price on the last two, anon will have to do some work

https://www.dotmed.com/listing/display-monitor/sony/pvm-20m2mdu/1886811 - $275 + shipping
http://www.ampronix.com/olympus-oev203.html
https://www.dotmed.com/listing/monitor/sony/trinitron-pvm-2043-md/2311614

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 14:27:12 2017 No.3899185 Any tips for opening and dusting my trinitron without dying? I figured canned air is the best way available.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 14:58:49 2017 No.3899235 >>3899185 Just blast it with canned air, can't hurt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 15:04:46 2017 No.3899243 >>3899185 >>3899235 canned air is pretty weak sauce. A proper compressor would be better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 15:11:40 2017 No.3899260 >>3899243 the vast majority of us don't have an air compressor though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 15:29:30 2017 No.3899296 >>3899243 I'm too poor to buy a +150€ air compressor just for one tv. Though I could just grab the tv and walk to the closest gas station. But I'm not going to do that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 16:00:41 2017 No.3899359 >>3899296 You could always rent one for a day. A compressor is an incredibly useful thing to have around though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:32:45 2017 No.3899661 Is it okay to wash the plastic shells of my CRT with water and some soap If I dry them properly?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:49:24 2017 No.3899684 Hey guys, is there some sort of guide for using the 240 test suite?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 20:08:32 2017 No.3899794 >>3899684 like, navigating the suite itself?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 20:16:27 2017 No.3899814 >>3899684 use your eyes and adjust your tv accordingly...?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 21:37:57 2017 No.3899930 File: 337 KB, 944x1600, 20170401_0001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got a portable CRT. These are weird because they hit the phosphor on the front - the phosphor is on the back glass, and it's angled to let the gun hit it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 21:40:44 2017 No.3899934
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>>3899930
These normally only tune VHF / UHF, which is long dead, but luckily this one has a separate tuner PCB with clearly marked VIDEO and AUDIO lines that were trivial to chop off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 21:42:16 2017 No.3899937 >>3898075 The high hours are bad but this is a true endgame BVM, multiformat so supports HD. If you don't need more than 240p/480i, there are much cheaper options.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 21:44:54 2017 No.3899946 File: 445 KB, 1600x916, 20170401_0003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3899934 For anyone who thought that flat screen trinitron geometry was bad, well, wait until you see this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 22:22:28 2017 No.3900029 File: 75 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how much should I pay for a PVM-8044Q? it's only a lil 8 incher

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 22:57:08 2017 No.3900093 >>3900029 Like $30

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:29:07 2017 No.3900174 Is it impossible for the NESRGB to have color output 100% the same as the origonal composite output?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:33:32 2017 No.3900187 >>3900174 it is actually possible, but you may not like the results.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:49:23 2017 No.3900223 >>3900029 >>3900093 Yea like 30. Anymore and you're a cuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:51:01 2017 No.3900229 >>3900029 If it's a model you really want, anything below ebay prices. If you're able to test it before purchasing, paying a bit above is OK.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:58:25 2017 No.3900251 >>3900093 >>3900223 >>3900229 I haven't seen one below $80 on ebay. the guy is asking $60 for it on craigslist. might try to lowball and blueball him for $40

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 01:57:52 2017 No.3900429 >>3900251 eBay will always have prices really high up there. Craigslist in my area is finally jacking up the prices on pvms. All 20 inch pvms in my area that have been listed are for at least 500 and bvms over 800. It's nuts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 02:26:00 2017 No.3900479 >>3900429 That's the price of retro gaming they say.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 02:39:58 2017 No.3900496 >>3890094 rick and morty is not a decent show

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 02:49:51 2017 No.3900503 >>3900479 Makes me feel like a fool for selling my 20m4u's for 200-250 just one year ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 06:15:47 2017 No.3900703 File: 767 KB, 2048x1536, DSC02113.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just bought a CRT, a quite rare one with special features.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 06:22:55 2017 No.3900716 File: 693 KB, 2048x1536, DSC02114.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900703 Well, it was shipped with the one carrier which never ever broke my stuff once. I wonder if this will be an exception.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 06:25:45 2017 No.3900718 File: 834 KB, 2048x1536, DSC02117.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900716 The remote is kinda weird. Where are the numbers? I think this is the wrong remote.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 06:51:35 2017 No.3900747 File: 881 KB, 2048x1536, DSC02135.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900718 Here it is. Seems that nothing broke this time.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:03:05 2017 No.3900756
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>>3900747
The inputs at the back are disappointing (for european standards) but still better than nothing at all, DC input jack is possibly special. I just connected a workbench power supply to it, at 12V it draws 1.90A on a black screen and 2.30A on the title screen of SMB1. However, my cheap power supply started to glitch out after a minute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:08:17 2017 No.3900760 File: 792 KB, 2048x1536, DSC02125.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900756 Size comparison with PAL NES.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:17:12 2017 No.3900768 File: 855 KB, 2048x1536, DSC02122.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900760 Doesn't matter how well it's packed or how small it is. This wasn't there on pictures the seller made. Looks like I have to fix this when I take this apart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:37:17 2017 No.3900803 >>3888012 If $300 is expensive you need to rethink life

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:39:19 2017 No.3900805 It sucks how a lot of modern homebrew Famicom games get crucial parts of the interface cropped out when played on a CRT. I guess the developers rarely test the games on CRTs anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:40:36 2017 No.3900807 >>3900805 Shit, that DOES suck. Do you have any examples?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:50:35 2017 No.3900821 >>3900703 >>3900756 >>3900747 what's rare and special about a portable consumer set? Not being a dick, genuinely curious. I like that model myself, I see them on ebay and craigslist now and then.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:54:30 2017 No.3900826

Anyone have personal experience with the Sony PVM-20M2U Friend just bought one from ebay local and the guy had another. Will sell to me for $100.

I already own a few crts. 36 inch Sony, hp mx90 monitor, sony fd900. Plan was to actually keep all 4 since I have more than enough room in my house (too much if you ask me).

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 07:55:47 2017 No.3900829 File: 81 KB, 1278x771, princesstv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900760 Thats a cute little girl tv you got their PAL.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 08:03:54 2017 No.3900834 >>3882275 They aren't. About even. But if you ask someone in the business they would say Sony is the best, because market share.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 08:09:19 2017 No.3900840
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>>3900807
Super PakPak got cropped on the TV I played it on at least. I think the mask on that screen crops a bit more than usual, but as you can see in this screenshot, the HUD is way too much on the edge. It's a shame really, this game is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 09:36:18 2017 No.3900949 File: 110 KB, 1226x923, setup.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I got a Bang & Olufsen MX 4000 which looks very nice next to my regular setup and it has a great picture as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 09:36:50 2017 No.3900951 File: 155 KB, 693x839, Phelios001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900949

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 09:37:22 2017 No.3900952 File: 135 KB, 694x903, Gaiares001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900951

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 09:37:54 2017 No.3900953 File: 283 KB, 1236x923, TMNT001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900952

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 09:38:20 2017 No.3900954 File: 31 KB, 564x510, pinktrini.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900829 pink trinitrons are really cute

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:09:21 2017 No.3900989

>>3900821
I didn't found much info about that one. Just a bloated site that shows me the first 5 pages of the service manual for free. Also it did cost me less than a PVM with a similar size and these are more common than this one.

I'm thinking of adding RGB/S-Video inputs to this thing, maybe by replacing the video RCA jack with an mini-din 8 socket and use a adapter but first I have to checkout the video ICs and the overall construction.

>I see them on ebay and craigslist now and then.
Well, I actively watchout for a KV-M1120 on ebay for 3 years. I randomly found this one out of boredom, I searched for Trinitron in my local area (<50km) first and found nothing at all but then I removed that filter and saw this one on the top.

>>3900829
It does NTSC and SECAM as well (I didn't checkout how 60hz looks like yet).

>>3900954
And I thought that Trinitron TVs in white were rare as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:12:11 2017 No.3900993 >>3900989 I have a TV that only gets NTSC in black and white. Really weird since it's a Sony from 1996.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:17:31 2017 No.3901001 >>3900993 Small 14" sets usually support PAL and SECAM only (but 60hz is usually not a problem for 90s sets). The bigger ones (>24") feature NTSC support. Now these small battery operable sets have NTSC support.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:18:00 2017 No.3901002 >>3900949 Never heard of this before, but it looks nice. Is this a prosumer type of TV?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:20:31 2017 No.3901005 >>3901001 Why would they add NTSC support just to larger sets?

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:33:22 2017 No.3901023
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>>3901005
Hard to tell, I assume that they wanted to market these huge ones as ultimate living room TVs which can do pretty much "anything" and the small ones for those who wanted a nice little TV for just watching TV.

I have no idea why exactly they left out NTSC support but it's possible to upgrade these small sets.
There are spots on the board to solder the crystal and other parts in, for example BE-4A chassis (pic related): a 4x NTSC subcarrier crystal is needed (14.318mhz, same as in many PC motherboards) and the right load capacitor then enable the NTSC option in the service menu.
I did that out of curiosity to see if it will work and it did.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:46:33 2017 No.3901037

>turn TV on
>word okay
>leave TV on
>powers off
>won't power back on
>just clicks and humms
>unplug it for a bit
>try it again
>powers on
>eventually powers off
>won't turn back on

Seems like I'm getting less life out of it each time.. I just want to play my Playstation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:51:40 2017 No.3901052 >>3901023 Converting sets to NTSC seems cool, but is there a way to still keep PAL? It's useful for N64 games since that console can output PAL60.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:52:27 2017 No.3901053

Whats the deal with the types of scart and rgb cables I've been seeing on ebay. Are all the $10 cables actually worse that the fancy $35 ones? I have no problem spending the extra money, I'd just rather not throw it away on what amount to a marginally thicker cable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:55:19 2017 No.3901057 >>3900949 I've been looking for a big 4:3 set actually. Would you recommend B&O? There're loads on eBay right now, I just don't know if they're worth the drive to pick up. I also am quite a fan of aperture grill. What's your take on B&O?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 10:58:59 2017 No.3901063 File: 43 KB, 471x504, Sharp3LS3608.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3900954 meh i guess. But, Zenith and Sharp made cooler cuter pink 80s TVs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 11:00:18 2017 No.3901064 >>3901052 The PAL crystal (the bigger 17.734mhz) is still there. Sony just used color decoders/demodulators that supported everything but only enabled PAL and SECAM in the 14" sets. So the NTSC support here is added in addition to PAL and SECAM

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 13:39:11 2017 No.3901338
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Has anyone here got a JVC VM-R150E-K or at least got a source for info on its specs etc?

I'm assuming it's much the same as the 190SU of similar vintage with RGB/YUV, Composite, Y/C, RGB TTL, Betacam and MII but would like confirmation one way or the other.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 13:50:33 2017 No.3901365
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>>3901002
B&O used to be a fancy brand in Denmark and growing up in the 80's and 90's, every family seemed to have one of their television sets or wall-mounted stereo, so definitely high-end consumer. You can still find a lot of them really cheaply with the remote controlled TV stand that rotates completely silently.

B&O still consider themselves fancy and try to sell flat-panel televisions at absolutely ludicrous prices, which I'm sure rich people who wanna flash their wealth are into, but most normal people just buy a massive Samsung or LG instead these days.

>>3901057
Absolutely, not only do they have excellent picture, they also have an incredibly booming sound so they both look and sound great. I did a video about it which you can watch here.

https://youtu.be/Iujx0-JcFn0

One thing I can't stress enough though is that if you get one BE SURE TO GET IT WITH A REMOTE CONTROL. You cannot access menus or even change the input sources without the remote and if people know what they have, they'll usually sell the TV for cheap and charge you a ton for the remote. Some later revisions of the TV allows for 3rd party remotes, but I wouldn't risk it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 14:45:00 2017 No.3901469 New bread >New bread >>3901468

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 14:49:28 2017 No.3901476 >>3900187 What does that mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 15:37:40 2017 No.3901640 >>3901338 I've got a VM-R200 and yeah it's got all those connections.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 15:40:27 2017 No.3901648

>>3901365
I have to say, the design is beautiful. The good sound quality also appeals to me. I currently use a Sony KV-28fx68u, a widescreen 28" Trinitron. I want a nice similar sized 4:3 display to go alongside it and this looks like a good bet.

That was a very informative review but I still have a few questions. Does it have a good (noise free) headphone out? What kind of speakers can you link to the amplifier and how good is it? Finally, do you have any pictures of Gamecube games or other 3D consoles running on it? I'm normally not a fan of shadow mask for 3D games but B&O seem a step above the rest.

Thanks for your help!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 15:50:28 2017 No.3901667 >>3901640 Good to know. How are those late-80s JVCs in general? Worth a pick up for 50 bucks or so?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 15:52:01 2017 No.3901670 File: 1.68 MB, 2160x3840, DSC_0374.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3901648 >>3901365 Just re-linking my question from last thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 16:37:43 2017 No.3901751 >>3899185 I did it boys! Both me and the tv are okay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 17:13:14 2017 No.3901837 >>3901751 Shame

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