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pic related. The difficulty isn't legitimate, it's just bullshit. Gameplay is astonishingly mediocre, and you can clearly see which parts of the game weren't finished. Of Myths and Monsters is an improvement, but I can see why this series lay dormant for over 20 years.

>> No.3865963

>>3865959
git gud

That's my sincere advice to you. It's fun

>> No.3865975

>>3865959

I wouldn't say Kid Icarus qualifies since not that many people ever mention it.

The two retro titles were pretty enjoyable, but I didn't find any lasting appeal to them. It's like Metroid with smaller worlds and some linearity. The second game was literally a copy-and-paste of all the items and mechanics of the first game, just with a different story and a different set of levels.

>> No.3866136

>>3865959
There is not such thing as illegitimate difficulty. People just use terms like that to remove their accountability for failing

>> No.3866178
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3866178

>>3865959

I mean, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed playing it, but I totally do not understand why it has the hype and following it does. Maybe because I'm not much of a JRPG fan in general, but it just seemed like a nice, basic kids story wrapped up in a fairly simple turn based combat system.

>> No.3866182

>>3865959
Yeah kid Icarus sucks
>>3866178
CT is pretty good, but I agree it's not as great as people make it out to be

>> No.3866523

>>3866178
It seems like popular RPGs are very divisive on this board. Every open ended question posed on this board devolves into an "FF7 is better than sex" or "Overrated trash". Personally, I agree with you, but I'm interested what others think

>> No.3866526

>>3866136
So, Ice Climber is "legitimate difficulty" even though it has AIDS-tier jumping controls?

>> No.3866684

>>3866526
Honestly yes man. The controls certainly make it harder, but that doesn't make the difficulty less real.

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Convoluted Crafting System You Must Use or Be Punished For It: The Game.

>> No.3866947 [DELETED] 

>>3866942
Funny, it was called You can literally ignore it and beat the game just fine when you're seven: The Interactive Adventure overseas

>> No.3866954

>>3866947
Bullshit. If you try and run the game off loot drops alone you'll never have just the right weapon for all the different situations, and before you know it you're spending 30 minutes poking a dragon with a spear, and having to get to the 40th hit of your chain before you deal more than 2 damage.

>> No.3866962

desu sex
system shock 1&2
doom
quake
thief
etc

essentially nearly every pc gaming "classic" 3rd or first person game
these games are unplayable these days, they are so sterile and barren looking with the pig shit tier early 3D environments and their gameplay has been replicated and improved by games that came after them

>> No.3866964

>>3866942
this one

FFVI is my pick for overrated games. Easily the worst SNES FF (not counting Mystic Quest). It just has shit gameplay and it's easy as fuck. Storyfags destroyed the genre forever

>> No.3866972

>>3866942
>I can't figure out how it works because I'm dumb so I don't like it

>>3866964
So this is what /vr/ has become. Jesus christ. I bet you also think FF5 and 9 are great.

>> No.3866974

>>3866962
they aren't unplayable, and they aren't ugly, but deus ex, SS1 & 2, doom, and especially the WRPGs like planet escape torrents and fallout are incredibly overrated. Deus Ex is flat out mediocre really.

>> No.3866978

>>3866972
FFV is great, FFIX is meh

Anybody who doesn't like FFV is either a story-fag or has no taste at all

>> No.3867053

>>3865959
>ITT: Games I suck at
lel

>> No.3867090

>>3866974
>Deus Ex is flat out mediocre really.
lol

>> No.3867101

>>3866974
I agree with all you said particularly Doom and Wrpgs like Torment. However Deus Ex is very good.

>> No.3867108

>>3866974
Hey you're that weeaboo fag from the other thread. He hates Deus Ex because it lacks naked anime girls and doesn't make him feel kawaii

>> No.3867250

>>3867053
I didn't even suck at it, it's just one you die because you fall and he devs didn't put in downward vertical scrolling it's like, "OK, guess I'll do that again"
Games like Contra and Mega Man are punishing but fair, this is just cheap. I beat it in an average amount of time as well

>> No.3867673

Duck Hunt is overrated. Adored purely for nostalgic reasons, it's just shooting ducks with no variety of gameplay and the sound effects are annoying

>> No.3867680

>>3866526
Yes, because the jump arcs are a mechanic that the game is designed around that the player is expected to learn how to manage

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>>3866178

>> No.3869827

Bumps

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>>3865959
Dick Tails is overrated
pic related is underratted

>> No.3869909

Kid Icarus doesnt seem like it was considered a classic til Pit got in Smash Bros.

There were people who liked the game but id be surprised if it was on many "Top 10 NES Games" lists before Brawl.

Its okay. Feels kind of unpolished to me but I think it's fun, it's alright.

I think Ice Climber fucking sucks. Its just not fun to play.

Besides that I cant think of too many /vr/ "classics" I think are overrated. Most old games with tons of praise seem to usually have at least a certain amount of quality. Like, Im not crazy about Super Metroid but it's a well made game and I can see why it could be someone's favorite. Even if im not blown away when I play some critically acclaimed title, as long as it's at least good or interesting I dont usually feel like it's overrated, just that it doesnt appeal as much to me personally.

>> No.3869917

>>3866178

Close the thread, you're not gonna fid a better answer than this except maybe Earthbound.

>> No.3869940

>>3865959
No one says it's overrated. In fact a lot of people say it's bullshit, like you.

I, personally, enjoyed it quite a bit. It's difficult at the beginning but then you get over that hurdle and have a lot more fun.

>> No.3869993

>>3866964
You're a faggot, FFVI is great.

>>3866972
You're an even bigger faggot, V and IX are great.

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>>3869909
I agree completely. Especially about Ice Climber, that game is so bad that Nintendo gave it to European NES buyers for free cause they knew no one would buy it otherwise.

>> No.3870520

>>3869917
I thought Earthbound was drastically different from RPGs in that it was a sort of satire? I haven't played it anyway

>> No.3870610

chrono trigger

>> No.3870796

>>3870520
Its really not a satire, just an rpg in a setting you dont normally see rpgs in. You might be able to say that it kind of satires American culture, it at least has a KKK parody, but most of it seems more like a 1980s Japanese guy's idea of what American culture is like. Like a speilberg movie like ET or something, with weird Japanese humor and rpg elements.

Sadly the game itself is pretty boring.

>> No.3871040
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>>3866978
>story-fag

I legitimately don't see the appeal of JRPGs without at least a semi- decent plot.

Do you hate narratives in general or just in JRPGs?

>> No.3871046

>>3866972
what kind of subhuman dislikes V?

>> No.3871058

>>3871040
I just think their stories aren't good enough story-wise to be the focus of the game. At most you can expect them to be decent but that's it. If I wanted good stories, I would look outside video games. For me a JRPG must be mechanically sound to enjoy it.

>> No.3871084

>>3869909
As a 10 year old kid when NES came out I can tell you that Kid Icarus was always a classic. The thing is people are either good enough to beat the game or terrible enough to rage quit at the first castle. Same for Ice Climber people either struggle with the jump arc or have fun playing it. Ice Climber also suffers from being an old skool arcade type game it's repetitive even if the levels change.

>> No.3871086

>>3871058
I think JRPGs are far too long to not have a focus on story. I don't see the point in playing a 40+ hour game with decent mechanics but no real plot.

Having said that I'm an adventure game fan so i like literally pointing and clicking on things.

>> No.3872573

>>3871040
If I JRPG doesn't have a decent or at least somewhat intriguing story, I'm out

>> No.3872664

>>3865959

I played through this for the first time recently. I was around when it came out but never actually tried it back then for some reason.

I had fun with it. It felt perfectly legitimate to me. I was impressed by its inventiveness and I didn't see any major flaws with it. (I saw many things that could stand to be polished, but they were not major flaws.)

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>>3865959
Yoshi's Island - Fight me!

It was a *good* game. But overrated. Something about carrying baby mario around and shooting eggs felt off to me compared to SMW. Bosses are terrible.
Excellent art style and music though.

Now that I think about it, I think it's the missing powerup system I dislike about YI. SMW had several powerups that would change your playstyle; especially combined with the colored yoshis.