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What's your opinion on older-age jrpg characters such as Cid Highwind (32)?

>> No.3855238

They're hot.

t. femanon with daddy issues

>> No.3855241

Nice change of the usual. I never understood the Japanese's fascination with adolescent. Every JRPG character and protagonist is around 16-21

>> No.3855246

>>3855241
>Japanese's fascination with adolescent.

It's a common trope, not just japanese, a lot of ancient legends have heroes that are in that age range.
Look at david and goliath, king alexander and many others.

It wasn't until Jesus Christ (rather recent compared to many other hero stories) that the hero got to be older (33)

>> No.3855253
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Not JRPG, but I always liked Edge Master in the Soul Calibur series. Cool design and fun to use.

>> No.3855260

>>3855238
^

>> No.3855280

When I was 32 I was still partying with teens but now I'm satisfied to have matured socially enough to play the benefactor or villain

>> No.3855286

>>3855241
not /vr/ but there's the US version of NieR where you play as the old angry guy

>> No.3855303
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>tfw diversity in casting used to mean a white male who was slightly older

Bros, we have to go back.

>> No.3855307

>>3855286
Well, Japan got two versions of that game, with Replicant being the older brother version, and Gestalt being the dad version. Replicant never left Japan, and the Japanese version of Gestalt had English voices, instead of JP voices.

>> No.3855314

>>3855307
Yep, that's true. I just said "US version" to keep the story simple.

Kind of wish we could have had the option to play Replicant, though.

Anyway back on subject, FF had quite a few of these characters, now that I think of it. Tellah, Cid (IV and VII), Fusoya, Galuf, Cyan and Strago come to mind right away.

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>>3855236
>32
why are the japanese so terrible when t comes tyo ages

>> No.3855335

>>3855303
an older white guy, a white girl, an Asian girl, a black guy, a robot cat, and a wolf-lion thing. FF7 was pretty diverse. :p

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>>3855335
Don't forget the protagonist is certifiably autistic

>> No.3855371

>>3855335
I never thought of Tifa as Asian, just dark haired. Also you forgot the weird vampire dude.

>> No.3855391

>>3855332
It's just how they depict whypipo. They think all adult men are permanently grizzled and in their late thirties

>> No.3855398

>>3855391
>whypipo.
How do you fuck up typing "white people" to this magnitude

>> No.3855423

I like them more than generic babyboy teency weency babyfaced japanese boy protags

I like old characters, and I like older protags more because it's something fresh and fun and MANLY

I enjoyed the brief period of time where you controlled tifa or cid when cloud became a cripple

>> No.3855424

As a 30 year old, there's definitely men in my age group who look even worse than Cid. I mean like full on bald. 27 onward is a slow descent.

>> No.3855427

>>3855424
>even worse than Cid

But he doesn't even look bad.

I also know people who are going bald at their early 20s.
IMO, "bald" isn't inherently bad looking, some people pull it off nicely, some look even better than with hair (some hairdos are really shitty). The problem is when people have deformed skull shapes or weird faces.

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>>3855424
>be 32
>People still ask me if "I'm going to school"
BALLIN'

Anyway, older characters are grossly underrepresented in JRPGs. Even worse, someone in their 30s being portrayed as some old fossil of a man. I'd like to see more character like Haschel, who are in their 50s and up and still kicking ass.

>> No.3855649

>>3855236
He was an annoying faggot in Dirge of Cerberus.

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>>3855649
>Dirge of Cerberus

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>>3855391
It's not just the Japanese. British war comics tended to portray even teenagers as bulky, chiseled in their late thirties.

>> No.3855686

>>3855236
Cid looks he's in 50s.

>> No.3855690

>>3855626
>NEET
>manlet

Pick one.

>> No.3855693

>>3855690
I'm 6'2" and employed, sir. I just look young.

>> No.3855696

>>3855371
And what the fuck is Yuffie then?

>> No.3855713

>>3855371
I assumed she talking about Yuffie as the asian one. Tifa is white I'm pretty sure

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>>3855398
Sorry, "Why People".

>> No.3855762

Also Barret and Reeve are 35.

Only Yuffie is younger than Cloud.

>> No.3856068

>>3855236
>32
Kiddo

>>3855335
No transsexual lesbian muslim african mexican american one armed blind midget
Totally not woke

>> No.3856080

>>3855686
Smoking affects your health severely.

>> No.3856094

>>3856068
What's ironic is Princess Sevenleaf is like half of those.

>> No.3856393

>>3856094
So it's a muslim american one armed blind midget?

>> No.3856493

>>3855236
Galuf was in his 60s
Tellah in his 80s
Yang in his 50s
Cecil and Kain in their late 20s
Cid in his 50s
FuSoYa was like ancient
The only ones that was younger were Rydia, Palom and Porom; they were just small children barely 8, Rydia Remedied that and made her self into her late 20s by the end of the game
FFIV had old a lot of old characters
FFV had one
don't quote me on some of these, but I know they are canonically old

>> No.3856498

He's a perv for being in those children's vidoe games.

>> No.3857104

In my late teens I realized that anything past 25 was "old" in vidya and it made me resent the onslaught of 14-22 year old protags I was forced to play as. I always hated finding a bar in an RPG and having to drink milk. I wondered why virtually nothing I played had older characters outside of parental or stuffy old dude roles.

DESU, I thought Cid was supposed to be 50. Felt bad to realize that was how 32 was portrayed. I fucking hate when I learn a character I've always assumed was 40-50 is really 25-35 or someone I thought was 25-30 is 18.

Age is pretty fucked up in RPGs. I feel alienated and discarded.

>> No.3857157

>>3857104
>Age is pretty fucked up in RPGs.

This is more of a problem with JRPGs. WRPGs generally have older, more mature characters.

>Age is pretty fucked up in RPGs. I feel alienated and discarded.

Because those games are intended for a younger demographic.

>> No.3857160

>>3857104
Well considering they gave Cid grey hair in the actual fucking game...

>> No.3857178

>>3857104
>you will never go on an adventure and save the world with friends
Feels bad, doesn't it? Even if you did manage to become a party member, you'd probably be that listless loner mage who doesn't get along with anyone.

I'd be running a potion shop, though. I'm not cut out for saving the world.

>> No.3857197

>>3857160
I'm 43 now, started going grey when I was 14, was almost completely grey by 30 and only now am starting to actually catch up to how I've looked most of my life.

>> No.3857221

>>3855236
>>3857104
>>3857197

I turn 33 in a couple months. My temples have pretty noticeable grey streaks and have for a few years, now the grey ones are starting to show up in the middle of my hairline.

Feels... weird, man. But, in a few years I should be able to pull off the Auron look, since I don't appear to going bald at all.

>> No.3857225

>>3857157
Yeah, they go for the high school kid heroic wish fulfillment thing.

It's hilarious to think of myself saving the world at 32, let alone 17.

>> No.3857230

>>3855236
>What's your opinion on older-age jrpg characters such as Cid Highwind (32)?

That developers should stop focusing on demographics to the detriment of the writers' creative vision. Gaming was a lot more interesting when marketers were largely uninvolved with projects. Nowadays, it seems the marketers reserve the right to impose any artistic license upon creative works they had otherwise not been directly involved in. This pretty much explains why there was such a decline in quality with the classic Tomb Raider series - marketers imposed themselves on the development team and quite literally forced Lara to be marketed as a sexual object.

>> No.3857234

>>3855241
They make the games for children/young adults, so they make the characters relatable ages for that demographic.

>> No.3857236

>>3857225
17 is how old Alexander the Great was when he became the most powerful emperor in the world. No excuses, anon. Don't let your dreams be dreams!

>> No.3857242
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Mostly a trope of ancient mythology which cast young teenagers who go on adventure, which is still prominent in modern Western works like Star Wars.

Let's not forget that the heroes of FFIII are suppose to be adolescents, by far the most egregious example

>> No.3857243

>>3857221
I'm much happier I went grey earlier than bald that's for sure. I don't think it's super uncommon either. I've known a fair number of women in their 30's and 40's who are all or completely grey and you'd just never know it because they all dye it.

I just roll with it, though finding greay pubes at 19 was a little weird. I always looked weirdly old though. Even as a mid-teenager I'd get handed wine lists when out to dinner with my parents and things like that.

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>>3855236
Pictured is Captain Adelbert Steiner, 33).

They make for fine comedy relief. I mean, every regular party member over 30 right until FFX is a freaking buffoon, and one of them literally has Alzheimer's built in as part of his character mechanics

>> No.3857351

>>3855236
i thought this dude was like 46

>> No.3857369

>>3857348
When they were still promoting it before release I thought Buzz Lightyear wrapped in tinfoil wearing mascara was going to ruin the game and then he turned out to be one of the best parts. He and Vivi were always staples of my party when the game allowed.

>> No.3857448

>>3856493
>Cecil and Kain in their late 20s
>Cecil
>General in late 20s
I place them usually in mid 30s.

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>>3857448
Cecil is 20; Kain is 21.

>> No.3857629

>>3857348
>33 years old
>Thirty. Three. Years.
>So ancient
>How does he even wear that armor without getting tired and falling asleep
>Damn kids with their attitudes and their haircuts and their prehensile tails.

>> No.3857634

>>3857243
I actually have been pretty young-looking all my life, the grey hair is what finally stopped me from being an automatic "please show ID" when buying booze.

I have four kids now. If people can't see the grey because of the lighting or the way my hair is sitting they are usually flabbergasted.

>> No.3857682

>>3857104
>Age is pretty fucked up in RPGs.

Basically the rule in JRPGs is that most characters look and behave as if they are about ten years older than their "official" age.

>> No.3859647

>>3857242
>Mostly a trope of ancient mythology which cast young teenagers who go on adventure

Which myths is that?

>> No.3860152

>>3859647
The ones he projects his own age onto. lel

>> No.3860187

I'm 31 and love my graying hair.... or at least I don't have a negative opinion of it. The only time I was a little upset at it was about 18 when it first started to go a little gray because it had been jet black up to that point. Once it started going a little gray I couldn't really care less then. But there's an element of "silver fox" about it. It'll help you look mature, which if your life is worth anything at all tends to be a bonus. Balding is something however that scares me, thankfully no signs of it yet.

I totally agree about JRPGS, it's a bit demoralizing to see you're about to play your grand epic adventure as a bunch of kids. But if it gets me to play them less I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

>> No.3860447

>>3860187
Jesus. I didn't get my first grey hair until around 45. And if you start loosing hair just cut it short. Dorks with a comb over or fucks who hairspray their few stands of long hair into a statue are pathetic.

>> No.3860740

>>3860447
>Cut it short
Too late I shave my head bald. Honestly I never expected myself to actually start to dig it. Funny as a kid I was more afraid of getting curly hair than ever losing hair.

>> No.3860996

To be fair, Real Life genetics can be fucked up too.

I've seen 15 yo growing beards, 18 yo developing bald spots. Sucks to be them.

>> No.3864431

>>3857348
>33 years old
>best physical fighter in the first half of the game
really gets the noggin spinnin

>> No.3864436

>>3860996
i grew a beard at 14 (hit puberty at 10) and started to really notice my hairline recline around 18 when i started college. once my life got less stressful it kind of just stopped there and has been around the same place since (i'm 22). my dad went bald in his early 30s though

>> No.3865381

>>3855236
I like them, but not when their entire character boils down to a stoic edgelord or shaking their head, sighing and muttering "These damn kids..." which is usually the two archetypes they fall into.

Are they any ara ara~ characters in JRPGs?

>> No.3865425
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I liked how in the first half of this game most of the characters were in their 20s-30s, they marry and have kids over the course of it, then the second half happens seventeen years later and you play as their kids.

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>>3855236
They're the best.

>> No.3865494

>>3857197
>I'm 43 now, started going grey when I was 14
Could be worse. I have a few friends who are brothers, and they all started going bald in their teens. I started to go gray in my early 20s. Bothered me then, but I'm 30 now and don't care anymore. My grandpa's hair was completely white by the time he was 35, so I guess that's where it came from. Leslie Nielsen mode.

>>3865484
This dude was in his 60s. Are there any other playable JRPG party members anywhere near that age? That are actually human, I mean?

>> No.3865539

>>3855762
I bet you they will either increase her age or will remove the option to receive a kiss from her in Golden Saucer.

>> No.3865545

>>3855236
I like them.

Growlanser series has a nice dose of older characters, helps that Urushihara is great at drawing older men.

>>3865539
On the Remake i mean.

>> No.3865942

>>3855236
They're fuckin based?

Badass old men are cool as hell. Cid Highwind, Auron, Galuf and Tellah are the most badass characters in the FF series.

Honorable mentions to FFIV Cid even though him surviving his conversion to Islam cheapens the moment.

>> No.3865961

>>3857178
Id call Barrett a nigger. And Cloud one too. Id probably try to titty fuck Tifa. I dont care about saving the world though id probably be a junkie in the slums.

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>>3855236
Depends, they're usually pretty bad as they're not really old and most of the times are not that interesting and behave exactly like anyone else besides the usual "Old guy(30) here, don't do that, listen to my advice".
There's a few of them that really shine though, like pic related.
>>3855241
>Every JRPG character and protagonist is around 16-21
Completely and utterly false.

>> No.3866224

>>3866112
He starts at 15, though, and when he's really old, he's no longer the protagonist of the Knights storyline.

>> No.3866662

>>3857369

Steiner is the best character in that game. He is just endlessly charming.