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3848787 No.3848787 [Reply] [Original]

Can we agree that using a flashcart, on real hardware, on a CRT is the intelligent way to enjoy retro games?

I used to buy game carts, not just carts, but CIB, before I realized that I was spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars a week on simple plastic and cardboard and glue and it was a complete waste of money.

When I could simply spend a little bit on a flash cart, and enjoy 98% of a game's library.

>> No.3848791

So why did this need to be a thread?

>> No.3848806

>>3848787
Isn't one slow-as-molasses flashcart-thread enough?
>>3833640

>> No.3850138

>>3848787
Yes it is.

>> No.3850143

>>3848787
it's cool, but it still requires you to have every console connected to both power and some kind of video switch. who has room for that shit?

>> No.3850146

>>3850143
>who has room for that shit?
This. My wife and her boyfriend don't want a dozen retro consoles and giant CRT cluttering up the house.

>> No.3850161

>>3848787
Most people already have collections.

If you're just getting into it now, just give up and get flashcarts.

>> No.3850164

Emulating for pre-5th gen systems.

Modchipping for everything after 4th gen.

>> No.3850191
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>>3850146
Wot
>My wife and her boyfriend
>wife boyfriend
>Cuck

>> No.3850202

what a stupid fucking thread

>> No.3850229

>>3848787
>I used to buy game carts, not just carts, but CIB, before I realized that I was spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars a week on simple plastic and cardboard and glue and it was a complete waste of money.

This is bullshit, stop lying.

Also, did you make that "brain" thread, depicting flashcart users to be the most intelligent? I swear, i really think some people come here desperately seeking validation for their preferred method of gaming because they feel insecure/poor/whatever for choosing original carts/flashcarts/emulation.

Just play the games however you damn well please.

>> No.3850253

You're absolutely right, OP. Flash carts are the intelligent choice for intelligent people like us. Now let's suck each others dicks.

>> No.3850280

>>3848787
>a flashcart, on real hardware, on a CRT
This is the only way to play older games without being a completely subhuman autistic hoarder manchild. I literally want to burn down the houses of people who own hundreds of games. They deserve to have all their little toys smashed.

>> No.3850289

>>3850146
Have you considered asking your wife and her boyfriend to let you get a Retron 5 System for your birthday?

>> No.3850791

>>3850289
>wife approves if and purchases retron
>wife's bf plays it in front of you
>pick up unplugged nes controller and pretend to play
>this is ok

>> No.3850801

>>3848787
>I used to
You're not fooling anyone kiddo

>> No.3851008

>>3848787
This depends on how you define intelligent in this scenario: If intelligent means you want to have the nostalgia kick and flip the switch with your original setup, then i guess I'd have to say yes (not sure if I would call it intelligent though).
However, if you viewing this from a cost-point (as you did in your post) then you are just plain fucking wrong. If you compare costs for each of the flashcarts, combine them with the electricitycost for the +20 year old adapters you keep hooked all up when you turn the power on, the old consoles which consume more energy than modern electronic, the big ass CRT (at least 150-200 Watt)plus the cost of each individual console you have to buy and the controllers and accessories,... well then it's just fucking retarded.
Only with the costs for one measly flashcart you could pay electricity for a whole year of emulating or more (depending where you live). You have less chance of a machine giving up the ghost and having to get a new one. Flash Carts could be faulty after three months when you are ordering the chink shit as you probably did. Then you need the room for every fucking console, you need to buy a new battlestation or buy wood to make some diy furniture, which again will cost more money.

Now wait, you could say now that you don't want to play so many different consoles, only your snes you still have from way back when (pic related I assume)
>why you spending weekly hundreds of $
also this
>>3850164

You surely have a pc that can handle it
>only have a phone
Even your phone can emulate up to the 64. Get a controller and a hdmi adapter for it. The only flashcart pass is for the n64, since emulation is a shitfest
>Comparing prices from the consoles is stupid, I have to just as well compare the price for the computer
You already have the computer and aren't spending 100's weekly for new hardware and programs on it (I hope...).The 'flash-experience' will still cost you more than a computer that does the same.

>> No.3851016

>>3851008

And I'm not the "fuck you purist" or "emulators rulez" guy, I dabble in every section.

But cost-wise nothing goes over pirating games for free and playing it on something energy-efficient you already paid for.
If you don't enjoy emulating I'm fine with that, but you brought up the pricing as a factor for enjoyment.

>> No.3851050

There is no such thing as "the intelligent way" to enjoy videogames. Some people will always like to have the original carts beyond their actual utility. It's like why do you play videogames in the first place? Because it's fun. Well some people find collecting them fun.

>> No.3851056

>>3851016
Will you shut the fuck up about "energy efficient" you utter tard, what did you receive your first electricity bill recently and start thinking about it? None of these devices suck up that much energy, even CRTs you might be surprised at how they compare to LCDs and I'm always into environmental causes.

>> No.3851058

>>3850191
Hello newfag. Do keep up with last year's memes.

>> No.3851062

>>3848787
What's your point?

>> No.3851092

>>3851056
Maybe a $1 fluctuation in the electricity bill is enough to make or break some people.

>> No.3851171

>>3850289
Me and my wife love it!

>> No.3851253

How does flash cart with SNES games work? Didn't a lot of the carts have their own hardware on board to make certain games run better? I can see it work with the NES and Genesis, but the SNES seems like a mess.

>> No.3851410

>>3851253
It is, which is why flash carts don't run those games. Same with how some NES flash carts don't support all the mappers.

>> No.3851427

>>3848787
the intelligent thing to do is not play with kids toys when you're a loser 30something. you're just splitting hairs.

>> No.3851451

>>3850289
Or your waifu for a Retro Freak?

>> No.3851452

>>3851253

The way around this is to get a flashcart that supports helper carts (like Super UFO 8, I think), so you only need to get one retail cart per unsupported chip. Yes, you'll have to buy stuff, but I guess it would allow to play, say, any version of MMX2 or X3 with only a legit JP RMX2 cart.

>> No.3851465

>>3848787
Enjoy games however you like. So long as you're enjoying games and not being an autist about how the games need to be enjoyed.

>> No.3851479

>>3848787
Why the fuck does it matter to people so much? Play the god damn game however it makes sense in your financial situation, and to what hardware/software you can get your hands on. The experience overall isn't that much different.

>> No.3852007

>>3851452
>I think
>I guess
I lol

>> No.3852027

>>3852007
It sounds like that supposed feature doesn't work for things outside of DSP-1.

>> No.3852203

>>3851008
>>3851016
Okay

>> No.3852207

>>3851253
onboard-cpus perfectly emulating these chips.
hence the high price for these kind of flashcarts.

>> No.3852472

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170307006321/en/Nintendo-Wins-Groundbreaking-Copyright-Case-Seller-Circumvention

We're fucked, /vr/

>> No.3852474

>>3852472
" The case confirms that the distribution of circumvention devices – “flashcarts,” “modchips” and “game copiers” such as Sky3DS, Gateway 3DS and similar devices – is illegal."

>> No.3852478

>>3852472
>A Canadian federal court
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.3852486

>>3852478
It's gonna add precedent, anon. Whenever this comes up again in court in another country, the Canadian case is gonna come up and then they're gonna rule on Nintendo's side almost automatically.

>> No.3852489

>>3852486
That's not how law works.

>> No.3852543

>>3851058
>last year
More like 2014

>> No.3852583

>>3851479
>Why the fuck does it matter to people so much? Play the god damn game however it makes sense in your financial situation, and to what hardware/software you can get your hands on. The experience overall isn't that much different.
just murdered the thread with this dose of logic

>>3852478
this
>Canada in charge of rights

>> No.3852790

>>3852486
>implying that's how common law works

Go back to school, anon. It's no guarantee for Nintendo or other companies with a similar position in the future because the opposite might as well add precedent instead.

>> No.3852792

>>3851479
>Why the fuck does it matter to people so much? Play the god damn game however it makes sense in your financial situation

Way to miss the point. Do you even lurk here, Anon? No one gives a flying fuck how you want to play retro games. We're just tired of seeing Krikzz and his white knights persistently shilling Everdrive products on /vr/.

>> No.3852803

I have been favored by an IQ of 145 so with the confidence of this select nature I pondered about it and concur with your conclusion.

>> No.3852983
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>>3852792
>Krikzz and his white knights persistently shilling

>> No.3853436

>>3852803
Sure you have edgar

>> No.3853541
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3853541

I recently got a Famicom N8 from Stone Age, and it runs almost all my games fine. Except for Mother/Earth Bound. I've tried many different roms that are available, including Good Set and No Intro. But the game keeps getting graphical glitches which leads to freezing. I have no clue what this could be about but it's pretty upsetting, since I was really looking forward to playing it.

>> No.3853902

>>3853541
>my games
>roms that are available
lel

>> No.3854484

>>3853541
It's using one of the most used mappers though.
I assume you updated the OS?

>> No.3854571

>>3854484
Yup yup, using the latest OS

>> No.3854593 [DELETED] 

>>3850143
the right piece of furniture and an auto-sensing scart switch makes all the difference in the world
This takes up a small corner of a room.

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3854598

>>3850143
the right piece of furniture and an auto-sensing scart switch makes all the difference in the world
This takes up a small corner of a room.

After the initial setup, it's almost entirely hands off. Even has wheels.

>> No.3854729

>>3851452
Helper carts aren't possible with most chips sadly. Only the DSP serves can function in such a way.

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3855625

Anyone has a Super UFO Pro 8? How are they compare to snes krikzz flast carts?

>> No.3855658

What a worthless poorfag validation thread. Enjoy your bargain bin chink flashcarts, maybe if you're lucky in 10 years some idiot on CL might trade you a real game for it. But I doubt it.

>> No.3855670

>>3852027
It works exactly how it's described in the documentation. However kids on the internet can't into reading comprehension so there's lots of confusion. It does not work the way you have been told by said kids.

>>3855625
They don't compare. They're very different products. The UFO is a backup device with all the usual features. The ED is an SD interface that lets ROM hoarders play on original hardware.

>> No.3856530

>>3855670
>The ED is an SD interface that lets ROM hoarders play on original hardware.
so does the ufo, with the addition of working with superfx-games when you got a superfx-game to plug in on top.

>> No.3857012

>>3856530
Playing ROMs is part of the usual features of a backup device.
Parroting kids on the internet is part of the usual features of kids on the internet. UFOs don't work they way you think they do.

>> No.3857065

>>3848787
>not being a junkie for nostalgia highs
>not wasting time, space and money
>not being a hoarder freak

yeah it's as intelligent as fuck. Sold all my carts and haven't regret it seriously at all.

>> No.3857069

>>3852792
So full of shit. Maybe the rest of us are sick of seeing retro game enthusiasm be dominated by autistic collector fucks who are just into it for the cheap high they get from getting or owning a cartridge.

>> No.3857080

>>3856530
>superfx-game to plug in on top

The guy who originally discovered that said it only worked if the game being played was the same as the one plugged in. AFAIK passthrough should work for all DSP games but that's all as far as special chips go.

Unless the situation has changed in the past year?

>> No.3857163

>>3857080
>The guy who originally discovered that
That'd be the guy who designed the card champ.

>changed in the past year?
No. In the past year UFO hasn't developed the technology to reroute the traces that lead from the fx chip directly to the rom chip so that they go through the ufo through some magical invisible connection. kek

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>>3857069
>Maybe the rest of us are sick of seeing retro game enthusiasm be dominated by autistic collector fucks who are just into it for the cheap high they get from getting or owning a cartridge.
>(and shilling)

I'm pretty sure /vr/ is fed up with both of those things, Anon.

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>>3857069
>Flashcartfags
>Calling anyone else autistic

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>>3858143
Since when is cutting down on clutter and trying to save space and money when engaging in your hobby more autistic than hoarding bookcases full of childrens' toys?