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3836534 No.3836534 [Reply] [Original]

This is the closest an video game has ever reached to be considered an form of art.

>> No.3836584
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>> No.3836594

>>3836584
This guy gets it.

I really wish Square stuck with Nintendo, if only because there'd be a higher chance for Legend of Dragoon to become Sony's answer to Final Fantasy.

>> No.3836750

>>3836594
I can think of several other PS1 JRPGs that are much better than Legend of Dragoon so I doubt it.

>> No.3836791

>>3836584
>the poor man's final fantasy
>best

>> No.3836859

>>3836750
>>3836791
>not knowing brain expand memes meant to be ironic

>> No.3836863
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>final fantasy viii
>good

VIIIfags are fedora tipping greasy manchilds.

>> No.3836867

>>3836863
>durrr, i still don't know how junction system works because i'm too retarded to understand it's literally equipment system with a different terminology

>> No.3836872

>>3836867
>implying I give a shit about the game at all

I never played it and never will. I mean, look at the protagonist, lol.

>> No.3836883

>>3836859
Sorry I guess I need to brush up on my facebook memes.

>> No.3836885

>>3836584

LoD is the only game I fell asleep from boredom while playing. I took it back to the store after that and bought Chrono Cross instead.

>> No.3836951

>>3836867
Its the story and draw system that bother me. Also every character is the same in battle aside from limit breaks.

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>>3836584

>> No.3838131

>>3836584
Accurate

>> No.3838141

If you non-ironically use the word "art" to measure a quality of a work, consider ki-, I mean, turning off your computer and going to your local library

>> No.3838271

>>3836885
>I took it back to the store after that and bought Chrono Cross instead.
Did it help you sleep quicker?

>> No.3838273

>>3836872
>i hate this game that i never played
>main character's looks = quality of the game
>lol
Back to >>>/v/ you go

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Mother 3 Holmes.

>> No.3838585

>>3838271
I love this meme about CC being bad, thank you /vr/ for posting it again

>> No.3838610
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>>3836584
>>3836584
I am calling bullshit on this image

Legend of Dragoon was a piece o shit.
>no memorable music
>characters were generic archetypes and only 4 were useful
>aged horribly/ looked bad at the time
>gimmicky battle system
>uninspired monster designs
>generic areas
>very dull brown throughout the game
>low fantasy world

Tell me again why this game was good?
Sony's real gem was the Arc the Lad series.

>> No.3838667

>>3838610
I've only played the first Arc but that one sucked too for pretty much all the reasons you mentioned.

>> No.3838930

>>3838667
>>3838667
play Arc 2, it's great.
Amazing, honestly one of the best I have ever played.....


But in response

>no memorable music
good battle themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-AeU6lqaVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdXB9jV9IIg

Then again I like synth jazz

along with a great arranged track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoL4IPvCzYM
>characters were generic archetypes
not really.
Where else have you seen dudes like Chongara and Poco?
I would say that iga is a tad generic

>and only 4 were useful
the only ones that were "useless" were chongara and kukuru (both we unplayable in the subsequent game) the rest are useful if you level them.

>nah, it looked pretty alright to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=256mLCqWkfY

>uninspired monster designs
Hemo-ji and those insects were uninspired?

>generic areas
Interesting architecture based upon real world places with an fantasy approach, you are going to tell me Nidel looked shitty when first landing there?


>>very dull brown throughout the game
more so green, but the colors brighten up in Arc 2

>low fantasy world
It's modern (90's modern), and throughout the adventure
you realize there are magical creatures and people inhabiting the lands... Hardly low fantasy.

>> No.3839752

>>3838610
>aged horribly/ looked bad at the time
No. It was one of PSX better looking 3D games.
>uninspired monster designs
Yeah i don't remember much, even bosses were generic.
>gimmicky battle system
>gimmicky
Do i have to remind that most Jrpgs games at that time had boring "x pushing" the game? Like Wild arms or BOF?
>generic areas
>very dull brown throughout the game
Yeah, they were fugly.
>low fantasy world
And...? Maybe write you like blondes over brunettes as well.

I didn't play Arc the Lad. Why is it good?

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>>3839752

>No. It was one of PSX better looking 3D games.
Chrono Cross and Breath of Fire 4 look amazing; everything in this game is dull as you stated.

>I didn't play Arc the Lad. Why is it good?
When I refer to arc the lad, I am primarily talking about arc 2
(You should play arc one just for the bonus content and carried over character levels you get for importing save data)

>Interesting story and characters with plenty of unexpected twists
>Copious amounts of sidequests via the hunters guild and secret characters
>endearing and funny characters
>great music
>lush and vibrant world with a massive amount of towns and areas to explore
>the contrast been silly and dark themes
>numerous bizarre monsters
>monster arena for those of us with friends who had the game.
>Great settings referencing real cultures but with the game's great modern fantasy aesthetic
>alibet modern, magic is commonplace
>great art
>grid based system (more like a beginner's final fantasy tactics)
> challenging bonus dungeons with Amazing rewards
> some of the best sprite designs I have seen in an early game
>they keep their Japanese voices, and don't use shitty dubs like Legend of Dragoon

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>>3839838
>Chrono Cross and Breath of Fire 4 look amazing; everything in this game is dull as you stated.
>3D
Bof is not 3D. Aside from that, "one of" means exactly one of. I didn't say the best. Saying that Legend of dragoon looked bad at the time is far fetched.
3D games get older faster than 2D games by default. This is especially true for JRPGs. I agree, chrono cross had better graphics, but many games had it worse at the time, not to mention lack of FMV.

>looking dull
That's just how the game decided to be, it's part of it's aesthetics. I think that choice was intentional. It had chance to gather different target audience than colorfull games.

>the contrast been silly and dark themes
Could you please elaborate more on this? I do not understand.

>Copious amounts of sidequests via the hunters guild and secret characters
>alibet modern, magic is commonplace
>they keep their Japanese voices, and don't use shitty dubs like Legend of Dragoon
That doesn't say if the game is good, it's just personal preferences.

I will look into it, looks interesting.

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Killer7 is the most kino video game I've played

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>>3836534
>PS1
>Final Fantasy


Give me a fucking break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV0XH673kzw&t=13s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbws0V-jy-4

>> No.3840034

>>3839935
>Policenauts and Snatcher
We are talking about video games here anon.

>> No.3840043

the battle system is a convoluted mess. inb4 just grind card games and abuse the magic draw system. no.

>> No.3840063

>>3840043
better convolulted mess than "press x to atack" and tons of boring encounters like in final fantasy 4 and 6.

>> No.3840069

>>3840063
yeah, turn based battles are outdated and crap, final fantasy x was the peak of that kind of combat, and luckily they changed it when 12 came out.

>> No.3840091

>>3840069
You didn't get it. I am not bashing FF 4, 6 for having turn based battles. Besides, what are you talking about in the first place? Turn based combat was in 1-3 and 10. 8, as well as any FF 4-9 used ATB system.

>> No.3840184

>>3836534
Maximum bait.

>> No.3840220

>>3840091
ATB might as well be turn based if all you need to do is press X.

I like the FF games, but ATB never felt any different

>> No.3840352

>>3839895
>Could you please elaborate more on this? I do not understand.

There were parts of the game where they were dealing with very dark subject matter such as child abduction, people being genetically modified against their will in a lab, corruption in politics, etc and the outcome was not picture esque so to speak. Inversely the antics of the two comedy relief characters in their side quests had me in stitches.

>Copious amounts of sidequests via the hunters guild and secret characters

The side quests weren't fetch quests, they were usually missions one mercenary/bounter hunter character took on. One involved him hunting a "jack the ripper" esque character in the middle of the night.

>> No.3840369

>>3836534
If Final Fantasy was really "final", how can there be VIII of them?

>> No.3840372

>>3840352
>There were parts of the game where they were dealing with very dark subject matter such as child abduction, people being genetically modified against their will in a lab, corruption in politics, etc and the outcome was not picture esque so to speak. Inversely the antics of the two comedy relief characters in their side quests had me in stitches.
So it's like typical anime where character die and in next episode they make typical japaneese-went-ape-shit jokes?

>> No.3840378

>>3840372
No, deaths linger in this game....
The happy stuff is optional.
Also the characters tend to split up quite a bit.

>> No.3840523

>>3838610
ATL was fucking shit, never finished it. What a fucking bore it was with its shit battle system. Literally the only positive point was that three second huge train FMV.

>> No.3840537

>>3840523
Could you elaborate on that? What was bad and why, side from combat system?

>> No.3840545

>shitty love story and possibly the worst battle and magic system in the entire series

Yeah it's art all right just like unmade beds and dead animals is now considered art

>> No.3840554

>>3836534
Are there really 5,111 of these fucking games?

>> No.3840573

>>3840545
>the worst battle and magic system in the entire series
I think you are mistaken. That would go to final fantasy 1-6(aside from 5) and 9.

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>>3836534
>not FFX
Maybe I just prefer to be able to actually see the expressions of my protags.

>> No.3840979

Are the story/ characters in this game really THAT bad? I've beat 1-6 and almost finished 7, really loving the story with the re- translation patch.

>> No.3841016

>>3838610
I fucking love low fantasy you cock gobbling whore.

>> No.3841112

>>3840979
The story is good but told very poorly, the characters are bleh

>> No.3841131

>>3840369
It was a last ditch effort, thats why it was titled final fantasy. It became popular and now there 15 plus spin offs.

>> No.3841145

>>3836534
>an
regardless of your English I agree. Dat opening sequence and general art direction / story throughout. Music as well is spot on.
Great game, sensational for its time.

>> No.3841149

>>3836584
>No VI
wow vi is underrated

>> No.3841229

>>3838610
>no memorable music
Get that BBC out of your ear

>> No.3841328

I ironically really like FF 8 and Legend of Dragoon

I recognize their flaws but I think they both do a great job of creating an immersive and convincing atmosphere which can be tough to do.

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>>3841328

1. You're anon, so why are you trying to appease this stupid board when you have no face? No one knows you.

2. Every game has flaws. Even the GOATs. The games that defined their eras. SMB, Gunstar Heroes, Phantasy Star IV, Ocarina/FF7/SM64, and the like. All of em. All of them are amazing and they all have flaws. Of course great games like LoD and FF8 have flaws.

3. I'll reiterate when I say that FF8 and LoD are great games that are worth playing through. The haters are fags that ride Spoony's dick with regard to FF8. As for LoD, I have no idea as hate for this game is a recent phenomena. FF8 divided fans on release, but iirc if you could find someone that even played LoD the most they'd say was they liked Dart, Dragons, and the paper-mario/super mario rpg esque action combat. No hyperbole back then.

tl;dr there is nothing wrong with liking those games unironically

>> No.3842938

>>3841357
> I have no idea as hate for this game is a recent phenomena.
I played it when it came out and it sucked.

Everything about the game was forgettable, I barely even remembered any of characters accept Dart and Haschel

>> No.3842996

>>3841357
I played FF8 years before Spoony was a thing, and I still hated it. Quite possibly the worst battle system and cast of characters in any JRPG ever. LoD on the other hand had a very good battle system but meh everything else.

>> No.3843069

>>3842938

I found LoD and FF8 to be solid.

>> No.3843216

>>3836584
LoD was bomb as fuck back in the day! Still is today. Final Fantasy is overrated as hell these days.

>> No.3843312

What or who the hell is this Spoony you guys are talking about?

>> No.3843413

>>3836872
>I never played this game
>This game is shit

Retarded autists like you are the reason no one takes video games seriously as a form of art and the reason video gaming community is considered full of children.

I liked 8 the most in terms of gameplay (I liked the juncfion system a lot more than 4's augnent or 7's retarded materia), length, super bosses, GF system, and was ok with the story.

Fuck off to >>>/v/ where it's ok to shit on games you know nothing about.

>> No.3843417

>>3836951
>Rinoa
>Better for support magic and countering status effects

>Quistis
>Attack magic is specialty, high critical is good damage backup

>Selphie
>Mix/match support/attack magic. Full-Heal us the only reason to have her.

>Squall
>High critical rate, best for mugging, has good attack magic and luck.

>Zell
>High attack rate, better to beserk in times of need and is more resilient to physical damage

>Irvine
>Never used him so idk.

>> No.3843426

>>3843312
Openly dislikes FF8 and made an ass-long review on it like 8 years ago

>> No.3843490

>>3842996
This.

I've never watched a single "Spoony" video in my life and I fucking hate how he's the go-to deflection when somebody doesn't like 8, the shittiest Final Fantasy game that isn't called Dirge of Cerberus.

>> No.3843493

>>3843413
That guy was obviously a salty FF8 fanboy false-flagging to make us reasonable FF8-dislikers look bad. Nobody says 'lol' here unless they're baiting.

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>>3836872
That's funny considering he's the most well-written character to ever grace the series.

>> No.3843645

>>3836534
yes it truly was, ps1 era touched a magically point of games that will never achieve or be able to achieve again in our life time and thats kinda sad to think about it

>>3836584
Alundra 1 was so impactful to me a child i could still feel the music and the amphorae that the music creator wanted to express for the game, your probably wondering why i talk of alundra 1 at all it was made by the same people that made the legend of dragoon, just triggered my feels

>> No.3843867

>>3843413
I'd take 7's "retarded materia" over endlessly drawing magic any day of the week. The junction system as a whole is shit and laughably broken, and I'm not talking about being able to spam GFs over and over again with no repercussions either.

>>3843645
Alundra was actually developed by Matrix Software, LoD was developed by Sony Japan Studio.

>> No.3843869

>>3843612
Even if that were true that isn't saying much.

>> No.3843876

>>3843312
Boogeyman used by 8fags when they see criticism of their game of worship.

>> No.3844007

>>3836534
hourly reminder that:
>Rinoa is Ultimecia
>Squall is dead

>> No.3844014

>>3844007
>squall iz ded

Personally I think there's a fair chance the writers originally intended something like this. But then the marketing department + upper brass at Square stepped in and said "HAHAHAHA NO. MAKE IT DUMBER. AND ADD FURRIES." And thus you have the total mess of weird contrivance and head-slapping moments that constitutes discs 2 to 4.

>> No.3844037

>>3838930
Chongara is the most offensive jew stereotype I've ever seen in a JRPG.

>> No.3844182

>>3843867
Gonna be honest, I didn't like the materia as a kid but was ok with drawing. Now that I'm older I don't like the drawing more and just make visits to draw points often and make magic from cards.

Is it a good workaround? Yeah.

Is it a fix? Nope.

>> No.3844209

>>3844182
I'd actually be in favor of a FF8 remake if it got rid of the godawful draw mechanic.

>> No.3844305

FF8 is my favorite FF game.

>> No.3844357

>>3840941
>"I hate books because they have no pictures."

>> No.3844395

>>3844209
Agreed. It did get annoying so I just save/load abused draw points and that GF junction that lets you draw from hidden points on the world map.

>> No.3844404

>>3843490

Yeah but you guys act like your opinions are more valuable. That isn't how things work. FF8 is a fine game. You're just a hater.

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>he actually used draw for his magic instead of just refining

>> No.3844424

>>3843490
>the shittiest Final Fantasy game that isn't called Dirge of Cerberus.

The problem is that not everyone has the same opinion. I've never watched a spoony, or any other youtube gamer videos but I like FFVIII well enough. I vastly prefer it to say, FFIV.

That's not to say I'm right and VIII haters are wrong, but that everyone has different taste.

>> No.3844649 [DELETED] 

Isn't this """""game""""" the reason I was supposed to buy a MemeStation instead of a Based 64?

wew

>> No.3844660

>>3836584

10 is garbage, rest of list is okay

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Forget about me? The true champion of PS1 RPGs?

>> No.3844809

>>3844007
>He didn't watch all the way to the end.


Squall is alive you fucking idiot.

>> No.3844828

>>3836534
Get some Star Ocean 2 in you boy!

>> No.3844967

>>3836534
The story is even more cringy than "muh mysterious past/muh planet" from FFVII. Junction system was ok, but Square had games with more robust customization.

>> No.3845310

>>3836534
just starting the game now. Only about an hour in and the only two Final Fantasy games I've ever played are Final Fantasy II (PS1 Origins) and Final Fantasy VIII.

FFVIII i have 1 hour of gameplay invested
FFII i have 25 hours of gameplay

i really like FFII more but I've only just begun FFVIII so who knows how ill feel later this year!

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>>3844665

That game was awesome, so was it's PS2 sequel. They weren't ground breaking, just a solid RPG with an interesting combat system.

>> No.3845721

>>3844424
IV's plot was just retarded and bar none the worst of the series. Of course the nostalgiatards love shitting on later games in the series despite being nowhere near as flawed.

>> No.3846210

>>3840545
Not just art, but porn too

>> No.3846236

>>3836534
Oh fuck off you stupid little cunt.

>> No.3846270

>>3844424
>>3845721
I love IV (specifically the DS remake) and VIII.

Oh well.

>> No.3846297

>>3846270
Are there any that you DON'T like?

>> No.3846523

>>3846297

Not him but Mystic Quest sucks and FFII is weak.

The series is overall pretty consistent. V, VII, and IX are my personal favorites. VIII gets a lot of vitriol but I still enjoy it for what it is.

>> No.3846536

I'm currently playing FFVIII again, never finished it (I always got stuck at Ultimecia's Castle), so I deciced to give it a try. I didn't like it when I played it years ago, and I'm really not enjoying it now...

Junction system is so broken it makes the battles boring, also grinding is pointless because enemies level up with your party, so what's the point of battling.
Both Squall and Rinoa suck as main characters. I ""liked"" the edgy Squall at the beggining (at least he had personality, a shitty and emo one, but still...), but I can't stand Rinoa, I hate her so much, she has no personality other than being a romantic mate to Squall and that's all she does in all the fucking game. Now I'm at the part when Rinoa is in a coma and I want to fucking kill myself. The other characters are nice but after Disc 2 they got pushed aside from the plot and serve only as "party fillers" which is a waste of potential characters.
The main plot has no fucking sense?? It's my fourth? time attempting to finish the game (I watched the ending a few times on yt to know how the story ends), but really, the only way the game makes any sense to me is with the "Squall dies at the end of Disc1" theory. Is it really the written fucked up, or is it just that the story itself is a mess?
Good points are, the story parts with Laguna are fun as I remembered, and Uematsu's music is amazing as ever.

It's a shame because I feel this game has lot of potential to be a really great game. I wouldn't mind to see a remake like FFVIIR, action-rpg combat style would fit great with VIII Junction system imo.

(Sorry if I made some typos, it's not my tongue language but I feel the need to post my thoughts)

>> No.3846539

>>3846536
Rinoa in the coma part sucks.

But, there's a lot of details during the Laguna dream sequence that are pretty interesting.

Plus, you should be on the road to Esthar which is when the game picks up the most.

Ultimecia's castle is pretty confusing, I'd just unlock your key abilities, skip some of the bosses, and go straight to the final battle once you get there.

>> No.3846567

>>3846297
I didn't love 7 or 10, and I didn't like 13.

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>>3836584

>> No.3847220

>>3846536
I had pretty much the same reaction as you except I never reached the coma part.

>> No.3847383

>>3846536
I thought I should explain the story a bit because I do actually love it, not the Rinoa/Squall lovey dovey shit (well, not directly), but the time compression.

According to Laguna and Edea, Ultimecia wants to be able to compress time. This means she wants to blend past, present, and future magic all together.

You have to take into account that Ultimecia IS Rinoa, just in the future. Rinoa wants to be with her knight, Squall, forever so she turned him into her GF and now wants to spend eternity wth him by compressing time and essentially destroying the world's time flow.

This is why your chain's name (I forgot exactly what it was) is the name of Ultimecia's summon.

The rest of VIII's Rinoa/Squall story is pretty bad in my opinion but that ompression struck me as really in-depth and I do wish it was talked about more.

>> No.3847395

>>3847383
compression*

I really wish the rest of the characters were given much more show time, even if it wasn't mandatory. Selphie's trip to her garden was really cool, and learning about Quistis' past during that small segment was nice too, but Zell/Irvine never had the same treatment and I would've loved to learn about Zell and why his dad wasn't present and such.

All in all I think they spent too much time on Squall/Rinoa when the other characters were more interesting to me.

>> No.3848232

>>3847395
Irvine wanted to leave his friends to die in a turkish prison so he could mack on their girlfriends, and when Zell got a lady for himself all he wanted to do was show her how many hot dogs he could stuff in his mouth.

>> No.3848345

>>3847395
Zell talks in Balamb during the Galbadian search for Ellone. Clearly more of a trade guy with his mechanical capabilities. Irvine opens up in FH about his intentions and motives.

>> No.3848380

>>3848345
FH meaning Fisher's horizon? I don't remember that, youtube time.

>>3848232
I never really liked Irvine but I don't recall much extra about Zell during Disc 3.

>> No.3848558

>>3848380
Disc 3 is pretty quiet for anyone that isn't Squall/Rinoa.

Seeing as how, the entire reason they go to Esthar is Rinoa, and the majority of us are aware of the situation involving the president of Esthar.

>> No.3848672

It goes 5>10>12>8>9>6>7>4>3>2>1

>> No.3848752

>>3848672
>4 that low
DS version my dude

>> No.3848805

>>3848752
And what would that do? Position it between 6 and 7. Fuck, 12 would be lower if it wasn't for my love of Ivalice. And I'm pretty sure that is the most accurate I can get without getting attacked by angry autists.

>> No.3848810

>>3848805
12 shouldn't even be on the list, tbqh

not because it isn' retro
but, because it's not a real Final Fantasy game.

>> No.3848832

>>3848810
>it's not numbered so it isn't a real FF game
So what about Tactics, Crystal Chronicles, Mystic Quest, Dissidia, Mobius? They aren't real FF games neither?

>> No.3848834

>>3848832
>12 is numbered
>12 still shouldn't be on the list

Are you stupid?

>> No.3848879

>>3848810
I said it was for personal reasons. Other than that, and that MAYBE 4 should be between 6 and 7, my listing is accurate. My personal feelings aside, 12 would be somewhere near the middle, between 8 and 9.

>> No.3848882

>>3848879
of the bad Final Fantasy games, 12 is the least bad.

that doesn't make it on any scale of the good side of Final Fantasy

>> No.3848907

>>3848805
Eh I liked 4 DS more than 8 and I loved 8.

>>3848832
>12 isn't a number

>> No.3848965

I love how my favorite FF causes people so much asspain

The game is great if only for that reason alone. You people just cannot handle that your opinion really isn't superior so you constantly make threads shitting on games like FF7, FF8, and MGS.

>> No.3849014

>>3848907
>4 DS
Didn't play it, so I can't judge.
Fuck, now I'll have to play every port of every FF to rank them better. I think I stopped at the GBA remakes and the tactics remake on the psp

>> No.3849276

>>3849014
Not every port, the mobile ports are usually shit. This is all personal opinion though, I really do recommend the DS FF4 to FF fans, it's a step up in terms of difficulty and isn't bullshit grinding.

>> No.3849280

>>3848965
MGS? Metal Gear Solid?

4chan is just as bad as Tumblr in that people get triggered at the mere thought of someone else having a different opinion.

>> No.3850094

>>3848965
Well people have different opinions. You think VIII is a great game, other people think is a really bad game. It isn't about being superior than others, that's all.

>> No.3850103

This is the closest an thread has ever reached to be considered an form of bait

>> No.3850440

>>3848380
Side quest to get Zell laid with pigtails. Culminates in the end credits.

>> No.3850552

>>3850440
Oh shit I forgot about that. He then choked on them or something.

>> No.3850557

>>3850094

If it wasn't about being superior then why do these haters never let it go?

>> No.3850573

>>3843417
>Anyone
>Good at anything as long as you junction their stats however you want

>> No.3850579

>>3848805
Just by putting 10 that high is guaranteed to trigger an autist or two.

>> No.3850604

>>3850557
Well I dislike VIII but I'd sooner play through it in its entirety than more than 5 minutes of XIII or any of the new soulless fanwank cashgrabs banking on nostalgia being shat out by Square Penix these days. I think VIII had the potential to be a really great game and I admire it for what it tried to do but the execution was way off the mark, at least in my opinion.

>> No.3850613

7>9>10>8>6>4>5>3>2>1>12>11>13>14>15

>> No.3850632

>>3850613
I'm glad we can agree on 12 at the very least, I literally fell asleep while "playing" that game.

>> No.3850636

>>3836584
actually retarded or pretending to be retarded?

>> No.3850638

>>3850613
8>10>7>9>4>6>5>3>2>1>12>11>15>14>13

>> No.3850640

>>3836534
the amount of underage in this thread is staggering. this game is awful and objectively the worst in the franchise

>> No.3850645

>>3839898
Completely agree.

It's not /vr/ though.

>> No.3850646

>>3850640
24 year old ff8 fan reporting

>> No.3850706

>>3850640
>My subjective opinion is objective fact
21 and FF8 fan here.

>> No.3850747

>>3850640
27 (almost 28) here. VIII is on my top of worst FF along with XIII.

>> No.3850762

Listing out the ones I've played

8 > 4 (DS) > 6 > 15 > 1 > 10 > 2 > 12 > 10-2 > 13

>> No.3850794

>>3850762
7 > 15 > 5 > 11 > 14 > 13 > 1 > 2 > 6 >>> 4 > 3

>> No.3850805

>>3850794
I honestly didn't like 7, it was the second one I played after 8. Forgot to include in list I'd put it between 1 and 10.

4 (DS) I fucking love because it's actually challenging.

Don't count 11/14 as a "FF" since they're MMOs but I only played the original 14 and not ARR so idk how good it is.

>13 higher than 6
I don't think I've ever seen that. There's a first for everything.

To each his own

>> No.3850936

All about getting those cards, drawing magic and refining items and magic for you stats. I try to make every enemy a card so i don't level up and mess with the enemies leveling curve.

>> No.3850938

>>3850794
>>3850762
FFII is way better than people give it credit. its a phenomenal game. attacking your own player is just like training together in the woods. the combat system makes perfect sense for me.

>> No.3850939

>>3850646
Haha, thats me exactly. except i love ffji as well.

>> No.3851023

>>3850579
The grid sphere system was great. As it can be seen from my listing, I love the more gimmicky games better.

>> No.3851823

>>3848380
>I don't remember
I told you about those GFs man. I told you.

>> No.3851827

>>3849014
>Fuck, now I'll have to play every port of every FF to rank them better. I
Don't be daft, m8. The originals are the only ones that matter. If you rank remakes you're not ranking the real games.

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>>3851823
kekd

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>> No.3855113

>>3836534
>an video game