>in-game FF7 Cloud and Tifa treated mostly like a couple, even having sex in the game >Aeris was a friend with a crush on him >games/movies after main game Cloud ignores Tifa and they try to retcon Cloud and Aeris being in love Why the fuck did they do this?

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Anonymous Fri Feb 24 08:19:54 2017 No.3819480 [Reply] [Original]

>in-game FF7 Cloud and Tifa treated mostly like a couple, even having sex in the game
>Aeris was a friend with a crush on him

>games/movies after main game Cloud ignores Tifa and they try to retcon Cloud and Aeris being in love

Why the fuck did they do this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 08:21:49 2017 No.3819483 I always found it weird in Kingdom Hearts Cloud was like; "Whatever Tifa...I'm looking for Aeris. She's my light."

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 08:29:25 2017 No.3819493 >>3819480 I don't think the original dev team expected Aeris to be as popular as she was later FF7 stuff is just catering to the fanbase

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 08:50:35 2017 No.3819510 >>3819480 >even having sex in the game ???

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 08:53:18 2017 No.3819514 >>3819510 The scene where they spent a night in front of the Highwind. What OP is doing is to assume they did had sex, when the whole thing was left vague (most likely on purpose).

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 08:54:20 2017 No.3819516 >>3819514 they clearly did not have sex.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 08:54:37 2017 No.3819517 File: 1.30 MB, 1273x1123, cloud-and-tifa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >FF7: Tifa was the biggest reason Cloud joined SOLDIER in the first place >AC and everything else: she barely exists

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:03:27 2017 No.3819524 >>3819514 If there is implied fucking, fucking happened. That's how it works.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:06:40 2017 No.3819527 >>3819524 there were no implications

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:17:05 2017 No.3819539 >>3819527 when they got back to the highwind and everyone tell they watched whatever it happened, Tifa got embarrassed (because now everyone knows how much of a slut she is) while Cloud shrugged it off because he looked like a Chad

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:19:20 2017 No.3819542 >>3819539 >japanese girl acts embarassed for missing out on a social situation stop the presses! she's clearly a nymphomaniac slut who anal masturbates with dropped Jenova tentacles and Barret's arm!

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:26:51 2017 No.3819548 >>3819542 >she's clearly a nymphomaniac slut who anal masturbates with dropped Jenova tentacles and Barret's arm! that's oddly specific anon, what have you seen?

babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Fri Feb 24 09:29:29 2017 No.3819550

>>3819516
>>3819527
>>3819542
There are two different versions of that scene, depending on the affection score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuKSfF1rHg

It's vague on purpose so some players can still be withdrawn and brooding over Aeris and some players can go with their childhood love, Tifa.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:32:11 2017 No.3819553 >>3819516 >>3819524 Again, it was clearly implied that they did, but since it's just that, that doesn't mean they did had sex. It's just one of those things that.. unironically really makes you think.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:38:35 2017 No.3819564 >>3819550 it's fucking nothing I am starting to think someone is trying to fabricate a "walk her home gently" meme here

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:44:15 2017 No.3819575

>>3819564
It's all about Tifa's reaction to the fact that Barret and the others saw the whole thing that on its own, implies something actually happened between Cloud and her, that's it, it's nothing really serious but it certainly is far from being "fucking/absolutely nothing".

babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Fri Feb 24 09:46:49 2017 No.3819579
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>>3819564
It was rated T for Teen, Cloud's not going to say "I'm gonna fuck you right in the pussy" but the implication is clearly there in the higher affection version. I certainly hope that the reason you don't see it isn't because you're that oblivious to romantic cues and rather that you're pulling for Aeris.

But Aeris's heart belongs to Zack. Cloud only thinks he's in love with her because of Zack's implanted memories that's why she acts so strangely when Cloud tries to be close with her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 09:53:47 2017 No.3819590 >>3819480 Because figuring that shit out requires actually playing it and no one wants to do it with that turn based shit. So they just assume that since Tifa dresses like a slut she must be one.

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:03:58 2017 No.3819606

>>3819579
>I certainly hope that the reason you don't see it isn't because you're that oblivious to romantic cues and rather that you're pulling for Aeris.

1. I scored over 30 pussies, I know how cues work
2. I ship Tifa and Cloud as it should be

I'm just saying they didn't have sex in that scene.

Maybe the embarass was that they woke up hugged and the others saw it.
That's pretty intimate enough for japan.
Unless you will now start saying Cloud was LITERALLY raped by 8 men in the bathouse

babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Fri Feb 24 10:11:50 2017 No.3819613

>>3819606
>Maybe the embarass was that they woke up hugged and the others saw it.
If that's how your mind cannon interprets it that's fine that's the beauty of vagueness. Personally, I don't think a SOLDIER who's been on tour for years or a female innkeeper in a city slum would be so innocent but it doesn't really matter. For the purposes of the thread we agree that Cloud "ships" with Tifa.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:12:54 2017 No.3819616 Tee-fa, or Tif-a ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:15:25 2017 No.3819620 >>3819616 it's japanese TI - FA ティファ fucking americans and their not phonetic language I swear

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:16:43 2017 No.3819621 Tifa is the childhood sweetheart Aerith is the marrying type. Everyone knows if Aerith stayed alive, Cloud would've went with her in the end, and Tifa would be left to pay her toll for burning Barret's coal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:26:50 2017 No.3819631 >>3819621 It's Dragon Quest V waifu wars all over again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:30:17 2017 No.3819639 >>3819616 I think it's like the two musical notes.

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:41:32 2017 No.3819653

>>3819579
>Cloud only thinks he's in love with her because of Zack's implanted memories that's why she acts so strangely when Cloud tries to be close with her.

Cloud never loved her though. Yeah he was visibly upset when she died but so was the rest of the party except maybe Vincent. She liked him because he reminded her of Zack, but on the Gold Saucer date she says she's gotten over Zack and wants to find the real Cloud.

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:53:29 2017 No.3819664
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JRPGs are designed to appeal to horny males, that's why you get both those hoes on your dick, since cloud is the player character you are supposed to identify with.

Same deal with Chrono Trigger making the player character Crono the only one really eligible to fuck 3 bitches.
who else they gonna fuck?
Frog? The Robot? Magus?
na nigga
If it weren't for the waifus RPGs wouldn't have caught on

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 10:56:00 2017 No.3819668 >>3819664 fake bulma clearly uses robo to get off ayla has a bf in 65m BC the only love interest is the princess

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:07:35 2017 No.3819678

>>3819480
i haven't played in probably a decade but i remember tifa being his second choice in game.like, "aeris is dead so i might as well bang the titty monster."

oh and they absolutely banged, it wasn't "left vauge" at all they just couldn't show banging.

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:13:03 2017 No.3819684

They totally had sex.
At least in the Japanese version.

>Tifa: Cloudu, this could be our last time together. Do you have any regrets?
> Cloudu: I regret that we were not closer as a couple, Tifa-san.
>Tifa: Cloudu, it is not too late. Come closer and take off that heavy armor.
>Cloudu: Tifa-san, please be gentle I am not experienced in this way.
>(later on the highwind)
>Bullet: We very much saw you two!
>Yuffi: It looks like you two had fun last night! I love the Materia!
>Vincent: It is a very good thing that you two made love last night. It will help very much in our battle against ancient evil, Sefiroth.
>Tifa: GAH! You were watching Cloudu and I in the act of mating! You are super pervert!
>Cait Sith: I didn't watch.
>Cloudu: That is a good thing. Though you are just a stuffed dollu, you are with much honor, Cait SIth.
>Cid: I too did not watch you in the act of having sex.
>Tifa: You honor us with your discretion, master dragoon.
>Cloudu: There is no more time to waste. I must defeat Sefiroth and stop calamity from sky. I do this not just as a personal revenge but as a way of restoring my honor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:14:55 2017 No.3819687 File: 35 KB, 215x215, akariiiin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3819684 >Cloudu I lost it

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:17:54 2017 No.3819694 >>3819684 >master dragoon muh nigga

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:18:12 2017 No.3819695 File: 55 KB, 710x698, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3819606 >1. I scored over 30 pussies

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:26:06 2017 No.3819704

>>3819480
Because people only played up until Aeris' death.

If they played any longer they would have realized that Cloud only liked Aeris because he thought he was Zach, her old boyfriend.
The real Cloud only felt responsible for her death, he never truly loved her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:28:42 2017 No.3819713 >>3819684 This is great

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:31:54 2017 No.3819717

>>3819493
>I don't think the original dev team expected Aeris to be as popular as she was
>later FF7 stuff is just catering to the fanbase

This, pretty much.

Aeris is supposed to be a throwaway character of sorts, similar to what was done with Lavitz in Legend of Dragoon. Aeris was quite clearly supposed to be a tragic and rather doomed character; from her upbringing to the time when Cloud meets her. There's something very sombre and almost macabre about her; being the last of her race, and being effectively hunted down by Shinra. She's symbolic more than anything else.

The thing is though, people started getting really attached to characters once the 5th Gen came to be. Cinematic games meant you ended up becoming a lot more involved with the characters, and got attached to them in ways you never did before. Hell, I felt like I'd been punched in the gut at the end of Panzer Dragoon Saga because of how powerful that ending was, which was something I certainly never did with a 4th or 3rd gen game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:33:21 2017 No.3819723 >>3819717 >Lavitz Bro.. I completely forgot..

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:34:10 2017 No.3819724 >>3819564 Holy shit are you also trying to say Arararararagi and Crab didn't have sex? Holy shit you purityfags are a fucking riot. God damn what the fuck even goes on in your head

>>	babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Fri Feb 24 11:37:23 2017 No.3819726 File: 11 KB, 124x251, ff5catalog-galufs[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3819717 I was pretty sad about Nei

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 11:38:48 2017 No.3819728 >>3819616 Titsfa

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 12:22:46 2017 No.3819795 >>3819620 Your little tard explanation is no good either TI could be TEA or TIE. L2spell phonetically

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 12:39:18 2017 No.3819825 Let's get this clear once and for all: - Tifa loves Cloud. - Cloud doesn't love Tifa. - Aeris out. - Cloud gets emo. - Omnislash Sephiroth. - End. - Advent Children. - Dirge of Cerberus. - Remake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 13:38:15 2017 No.3819908 >>3819795 pronounce it as if you were reading spanish, or german, or italian, or portuguese, or dutch, or swedish, or any language in the world with phonetic consistency. English was a mistake

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 14:02:58 2017 No.3819941

>>3819579
Arris had a crush on Cloud, she said many times in game. She gotten over Zack and wanted to be with and know more about Cloud. Cloud however had feelings for Tifa since he was a kid. Aeris was a friend to the entire party so of course her dying for them all sad. But for whatever reason after FF7 they basically forget Tifa exists and just to shove Aeris down the player and Clouds throat.

Like OP said look at Kingdom Hearts. Cloud's whole story in the series so far is held looking for his light (Aeris). Tifa is looking for Cloud in KH2 and she finally finds him and he barely says Hello, he goes right back to looking for Aeris. It's really bizarre.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 14:05:39 2017 No.3819947 >>3819825 >Cloud doesn't love Tifa He joined Soldier to impress her and when he came back to his hometown and he wasn't in a Soldier he hid from her.

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 14:09:05 2017 No.3819951

>>3819514
Initially the scene was a lot more explicit, iirc in one of the FF Ultimania's it's stated that originally it was planned that both leave the chocobo stall in the highwind while looking around/acting suspicious but Kitase or Nomura rejected it because it was considered too extreme.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 14:13:02 2017 No.3819954 File: 115 KB, 960x544, IMG_4414.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In the Remake are they gonna retcon Aeris into the love interest?

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 14:20:11 2017 No.3819969
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>>3819947
And in Costa Del Sol it's implied that Tifa was fucking Johnny while Cloud was being fucked around as a SOLDIER
Tifa is a trash character.
Also, it wasn't the dev's orignal plan to kill Aerith. They decided later on and created Tifa to fill the void of the missing female hero, and then made a back story that developed into the love triangle, etc.

>yfw there are at least 6 pieces of Amano art featuring Cloud with Aerith
>None with Cloud and Tifa
>There are more pics of Cloud with Nanaki than there are with Tifa

IMO, CloudxAerith vs CloudxTifa in FFVII is ambiguous and kind of up to the player and their actions/affection levels.
But post FFVII, it's clearly CloudxAerith.

I've never gotten Tifa's appeal beyond being a titty monster. I don't really get Cloud's appeal, either, though.

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 14:35:04 2017 No.3819995
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>>3819951
I'd consider a threesome with a chocobo to be pretty extreme in its own right. Funny how that is extreme but the Honey Bee Inn and Don's mansion aren't.

>The bathtub scene in high definition. I want to see that.

>>3819954
Aries is better girl. I just cleared the first episode, does it get better? I liked what I read so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 14:51:17 2017 No.3820019 >>3819908 English is one of the best because it doesn't mess around with masculine feminine forms of words that shit is dumb.

babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY Fri Feb 24 14:59:54 2017 No.3820036
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>>3819969
The theme of childhood friends who fall in love as adults is a powerful one. Despite/because(?) it's contradictory to true human nature

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 15:02:14 2017 No.3820041 >>3820019 that shit makes room for people to mess around with shit such as "personal pronouns"

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 15:03:27 2017 No.3820045 >>3820041 as for "that shit" I meant english of course and the lack of m/f forms of words

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 15:06:20 2017 No.3820050 >>3820045 no because xe/xir and all that crap is just made up

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 15:12:39 2017 No.3820069 >>3819969 >And in Costa Del Sol it's implied that Tifa was fucking Johnny while Cloud was being fucked around as a SOLDIER Tifa is a trash character. Pfffbttttt aha what's it like being full of shit?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 15:20:20 2017 No.3820079 >>3819995 >>3819954 What game is this from?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 15:22:23 2017 No.3820083 >>3819480 >Why the fuck did they do this? I would say it's because Aeris was a better character, but honestly the later stuff ruined her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 15:27:57 2017 No.3820091 >>3820083 Her english voice actor didn't help, she sounds asleep all the time. HEY LETS DROP MANDY MOORE WHO WAS PRETTY GOOD AS AERIS FOR THIS GIRL WHO'S SLEEPING

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