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How Retro is too Retro.
In other words how far back into retro gaming can you go before deciding "These games are just too old".

For me I can play for ZX Spectrum and still have fun.

https://youtu.be/8PbZt-o4iyk

Even if it's a Russian game.

>> No.3819468

Ryoma is better than chrom

>> No.3819485

>>3819345
I rarely find CGA graphic games appealing so it's a good day when it also comes in an EGA form.

>> No.3819512

PAC-Man is the farthest I'd go. I know I'm a pleb

>> No.3819573

>>3819512
Original Pacman was a very early game 70s right?

>> No.3819589
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PLATO has some pretty playable games. If you want to enjoy 70s gaming you gotta go with vector graphics.

>> No.3819645

Atari is the point where I say for myself the games don't offer anything I can't get elsewhere much better. I'm also not a high score hunter so a lot of early arcade games that just go on endlessly are nothing for me.

>> No.3819805

>>3819345
No game is too old.

>> No.3819828

>>3819345
Early 90s is my limit. Can't stand 2D.

>> No.3819848

>>3819345
I have difficulties considering myself Retro because of my tastes... but...

I cannot tell you a single game (I play mostly FPS titles) I find to be very good before Quake. It isn't the graphics, but just a very different mentality of design. Older titles were often designed like mazes, Duke 3d's ventilation shafts absolutely frustrate me as do some of Doom's levels (Doom is probably the sprite game I can tolerate the most) and I absolutely become miserable if I play Wolfenstein 3d for any length of time. I like a world, a place I can be immersed in, so these chaotic dungeon/maze levels just feel pointless and uninteresting while managing to frustrate me.

I cannot stand the SNES or NES. The music for either usually sounds pretty horrible, I think I just can't stand MIDI generally. I have horrible memories trying to play Snake, Rattle, and Roll.

Arcade titles feel pointless as there is no end goal. Atari games feel pointless as they usually require a second player. I tortured myself a lot trying to play a lot of terrible 70s/80s games. I hate text or plain ASCII characters, I need to have graphics and more importantly sound. That is a big thing I find is lacking pre-Quake, ambient sounds. This would also explain why my favorite games, the Thief series, relies so heavily on them. I can't just have an enemy growling at me, I need to hear the flames of nearby torches or the drips of water to fully feel I am in a world. Most retro games just blast MIDI music and thus don't care about ambience beyond sounds for enemies and elevators. I also like patrolling enemies as a subtle detail to make the world feel more like a place.

Plus I like the idea of less being more and the AI being harder instead of it being a spamfest like in Doom or similar games. I also hate old school secrets, I just hate the idea of spamming walls to find something and there are many instances in older games where there are very few clues that a wall leads to a hidden area.

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>>3819828
>Can't stand 2D.

>> No.3819950

>>3819892
Not everyone has to have the same opinions as you. I like games as close to reality as possible, and reality is not 2D.

>> No.3819956

>>3819950
>close to reality as possible, and reality is not 2D.
I bet you like Nintendo Virtualgoi.

>> No.3820283

I enjoy the really old games. There is a bit more willingness to experiment with different ideas and I can appreciate that.

>> No.3820308

>>3819345
I won't play much earlier than 2nd gen. I just see no point in these shit American attempts at games.

>> No.3820314

2600 stuff in hard to play,
stuff with weird ass controls
>looking at you resident evil and grim fandango

>> No.3820482

I don't have a problem wth early console games, I can't get super into Atari games but I can find them to be a fun distraction for a while.

Old pc games is where I have a difficult time getting into the game. Stuff like Ultima 1 which was revolutionary for its time, I try to play it now and I just don't have fun with it. I guess my imagination just isn't good enough to form a fascinating world out of those little blocks. Almost all early pc games having no music is a big drawback for me too. Early pc games seemed to be more about building worlds and stories than about pure gameplay, unless maybe you play Wizardry, which I haven't tried out yet.

But yeah, early consoles were more arcade-like which I find fun. RPGs and pc games from the early ages tend to bore the shit out of me. Most of them are too slow to hold my interest.

>> No.3820543

I can go as far back as at least the 2600, haven't really tried going farther than that.

Can't do ZX Spectrum though, shit hurts my eyes.

>> No.3820564

For me the fun started with NES/FAMICOM.

>> No.3820571

Arcade games fuck my shit up. They're just too hard. If you get into an arcade game you know you will practice a single game for a few weeks till you can beat it in under 3 coins.

>> No.3820609

Pretty much the only games for the Atari 2600 I actually enjoy are:

Yars Revenge (but I'd rather play the GBC version)
Adventure (for nostalgia reasons)
and Warlords (if I ever actually have people over that would want to play a 2600 game (lmao))

I'm not sure if there's anything older than that I'd actually enjoy but I'm pretty open-minded, I'll try anything.

>> No.3820632

>>3819345
>In other words how far back into retro gaming can you go before deciding "These games are just too old".
Well, I have fun even with Pong, so, I suppose, there's no such "too old" line.
The problem with me is I play games alone when they are meant to be fun with two players.

>> No.3821128

i loved playing combat on the 2600 and a bunch of shitty intellivision games when i was a kid

but today, i'd say that anything older than the NES or EGA/Tandy graphics is where I draw the line. infocom / other text based stuff obviously excluded.

>> No.3821352

>>3819950
While referring to games that apply to /vr/, this is likely the most bizarre comment I've seen here. That is all

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>>3819345
>Too old
No such thing

>> No.3821374

>>3819345
There are Atari 2600 games I can still play the shit out of with no regrets. That system was great so long as the game was well designed. There were just so many dogshit games made for it that too many people have worse memories of the system than they should.

Don't think I could go much older than that, but there isn't really much that is older. RCA Studio II. Pong. Pinball and Pachinko machines.

>> No.3821379

>>3819589
Did PLATO use a vector monitor?
For all that text?

>> No.3821383

1980

>> No.3821419

>>3821374
I never played Atari 2600 games, they look awful and way too abstract and simple.
ZX Spectrum is just visual vomit.

C64 at least looks like.. something.
NES/C64/DOS+EGA is it for me, anything earlier than that looks like excessive compromises and baby steps.

>> No.3821429

>>3821419
Some are abstract. Some are very clear. The homebrew community has been proving what a versatile machine it really was. Too many games were rushed to market. Pac-man is the most well known offender, but check out this homebrew version of Pac-Man (and yes, this runs on real 2600s, they've made cartridges of it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAYuBcuvIww

Sure, it has the notorious flicker problem, but you can't tell me that's "abstract". That's Pac-Man! And it looks damn good playing on equipment 3 years older than the arcade game itself.

>> No.3821446

>>3819345
>im young and youropoor
Cool story kid. Just click your heels together three times and remove one r in the URL and you'll be back home.
I haven't seen much worth playing pre 1950 though.

>> No.3822000

>>3819950
Why do you go on /vr/ if you like realistic games?

>> No.3822014

>>3819645
Pretty much this. I can have fun in Pong or Galaga with my dad but most anything before that is lost on me

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>>3819828
>Can't stand 2D.
What about FMV games?

>> No.3822258

>>3819345
I can play anything no matter the age.
People like you op need to grow a pair and get out of their comfort zone,there is so much stuff out there it a real shame to not give it at least a try.

>> No.3822301

Pong is fun

>> No.3822310

>"too retro"
>on a retro board
we seriously need /v2k/

>> No.3822530

>>3820571
I still think of playing a single game for month as a normal thing to do

>> No.3822531

I can't get into anything prior to the NES, I'm sorry that I'm such a plebeian.

>> No.3822564

>>3819345
Idk. Is the game fun? Does it have clear and thought-out rules and consequences?

Am I just supposed to suck on an atari joystick to impress my not-friends on an anonymous message board?

>> No.3822828

None? Early home console games are probably my least favorite, but there are a lot of early arcade and computer games (text-based adventures particularly) I enjoy.

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Anything below the Commodore 64 is starting to feel too primitive and restrictive. Also, the 4-color CGA palette on some early MS-DOS games looks like dog shit, to the point of being unplayable. I mean look at that, how did people put up with that shit?

>> No.3823343

just about anything before, say, the SNES

there are a handful of pre-SNES games that I'd play but for the most part, there's nothing there for me

PC games, however, are a different case, in which case, I probably wouldn't go beyond 1992 or so

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>>3821379
Yessir. Even in the 70s, a $15,000 terminal connected to an eleventy gorillion dollar mainframe could do pretty amazing things including playing games ten, fifteen even twenty years ahead of what mere mortals would play..

>> No.3823823

>>3822258
I love all retro games. But most threads in vg are about rugs from the 1990s.

So I was wondering if some people lose interest in retro games from the 80s. Ie before sprites

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>>3819950

>> No.3824121

>>3819345
More like the opposite. I cant stand much after 1995

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>>3819345

Most games from NES/EGA onward I can play. I have some nostalgia for Atari 2600 and CGA/Monochrome PC but it's more difficult to get into those games.

Even some of those games that I used to love I just don't have the patience or time to mess with anymore. Old school RPG's where you had to draw a map yourself, FPS that were more maze-like than fighting, games with no ending.

>> No.3824563

>>3819345
I can enjoy some arcade games, but as far as console, I can really only go as far back as the NES. I did grow up playing on my dad's 2600 and my mom's NES, but the first console that was mine was the PS1, so that's what I have the most nostalgia for.