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3812272 No.3812272 [Reply] [Original]

What's the emulation potential of this?

>> No.3812275

Similar to the Wii. I've been assured that the Pi3 is appreciably more powerful though.

>> No.3812287

>>3812272
Tsss is a raspberry pi, in other words a microcontroller, ie the brain of a computer itself ..
I have seen in forums, videos, people who make Game Boy, Arcades, Snes and Megadrive portable .. in addition, many raspberry have HDMI input, if you are very passionate about the subject of electronic, robotic and informatica this is for you

>> No.3812290

Can do, NES, SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, 32x, Turbo Duo-16, Game Boy, Game Gear, Master System, PS1 fairly good, N64 only few titles. Mame up to the mid 90s, if its 2d its usually good.

>> No.3812295

it had potential, but was outclassed by the nes classic edition. now it's relegated to the preferred emulation platform of poor ppl in oogaboogastan and homelesses who live in a box and wipe their butt with a pine cone.

>> No.3812298

>>3812272
Potentially it should be pretty good. In reality it can only handle up to basic SNES stuff well.

>> No.3812313

>>3812298
It depends on the emulator .. it's the same story .. you have to look for a good emulator and roms to work well, the video I saw, the subject towards a Classic Game Boy, but with a variety of emulators, looked too good!
And it's true, it has the capacity for too many emulators, I've heard rumors that also supports the PS2, but fails because of the great weight of said Sony console

>> No.3812323

>>3812295
Hahaha cx I agree with you! And the best of NES Classic is the facility to add more games to your catalog

>> No.3812352

>>3812272
Pi3 here running Neo Geo, Marvel v Capcom era fighters, Cave shooters up to Ketsui and the likes of Mars Matrix/Giga Wing pretty flawlessly. It takes a fair bit of tuning to get it just so. Just have Mega CD and PCE CD to sort then I'm done.

>> No.3812573

>>3812352
which emulator do you recommend for arcade fighters and shmups? i'm used to fba but it's trash on pc so i have low expectations for it on pi3

>> No.3812589

>>3812272
Less than that of a laptop or desktop.

>> No.3812693

>>3812313
Unfortunately there simply are no good enough emulators for SNES and later. Maybe some day.

>> No.3812872

>>3812272
Surprisingly vast. The easiest choices are rock,paper or scissors but with the right kind of lighting you could even do a bunny.

>> No.3813002

>>3812272
It's good for a quick and easy living room solution, but there are much better options if you're willing to put in a little extra effort.

>> No.3813005

>>3812272
it's honestly really restrictive, just build yourself an htpc; a raspberry pi isn't worth it

>> No.3813025

>>3812290

All of this. Plus Kodi. Perfect for my bedroom emulator box

>> No.3813107

Get a pi3 and you'll be good. Best 30 bucks I spent, SNES works flawlessly and I've run every CPS2 and some CPS3 on it no problem.
Ignore the other Pi's though.

>> No.3813109

>>3812573
Final Burn Alpha for both Neo Geo and arcade. I'm surprised it's so poor on PC, as it seems excellent thus far on Pi 3. I've previously used Mame and Shmup Mame on pc and it performs at least as good as those IMO.

>> No.3813252

>>3813025
And if you leave a tooth under you pillow you can play 2 player games it can imaginarlly emulate with an imaginary fairy!

>> No.3813287

>>3812272
backward compatible GPIO pins
frequently updated (rpi, rpi2, rpi3, rpi4, rpi5, etc...)
has a secret 480i-only composite headphone jack
has a 240p SCART output (purchased separately)
has a 240p VGA666 output (purchased separately)
both the SCART and VGA can be adapted for RGB at 240p
active retro gaming and arcade scene, a lot of development from arcadeforge
up to 5th gen consoles (might do more in the future)
lagless media center
cheap and small
change os simply by switching SD card

i give it a 7.5/10

>> No.3813384

Is there something better than Raspberry Pi 3 to have ALL-IN-ONE emulator for various consoles?

>> No.3813395

>>3813384
Yes, a decent PC.

>> No.3813636

>>3812272
Are these just a complete waste of money for someone with a semi decent laptop?

>> No.3813719

>>3812287
Thanks Pajeet.

>> No.3813726

>>3813395
Yeah and then you spend $150 extra minimum for no reason other than muh PC.

The Pi3 is an insanely good value. The Pi 1 was trash for emulation and the Pi 2 was eh, but the Pi 3 is great. OC it to 1.2 GHz with 500Mhz video core and youre golden. Extremely portable and you can dualboot LibreELEC pretty easily (I find it better than installing Kodi onto RetroPie). If you just want an emulation box its the best way to go. It fits in your pocket if you care about taking it places, and can only possibly use 10W due to the power supply method it uses.

>> No.3813745

>>3812573
I use FBA exclusively when I'm doing arcade on the pi. MAME is too finicky, FBA works with substantially less bullshit.

>> No.3814127

>>3813636
The obvious advantage of the Pi is its form factor. You could just tape it to the back of your TV plus it frees up your laptop so you're not needing to alt-tab out of a game to browse the web, check your torrents or whatever the hell else you do with your laptop. It's cheap as hell, how can it be a waste of money?

>> No.3814194

>>3813287
i don't have an RGB monitor, is there a way to get a 240p s-video signal without 15 converters?

>> No.3815229

>>3814127
I'm not saying there aren't benefits but they seem fairly minimal to be honest and hardly worth the money unless you had literally nothing else you wanted to buy.

>> No.3815595

>>3814127
But smaller and more powerful Pis are available. Surely if you're so tight on space you don't have room for an old laptop having something as large as a deck of cards is a tragedy. It's also one of the most expensive Pis there is. According to your illogic a dollar isn't a lot of money so it can't be a waste of money for you to pay me a dollar for a quarter.

>> No.3815678

>>3812272

This is the worst place on the internet to ask about Pi emulation. Looking through the "answers" I can clearly see 95% of these responders are either trolls or have never actually seen a Pi in real life.

>>3812290

the only real answer in this hell hole. Can confirm the Pi3 is a retro gaming beast.

>> No.3815692

>>3815595
>smaller and more powerful Pis

They're called SBCs, dont call them Pi's dumbass. You should only refer to it as Pi if youre speaking of the RPi. Orange Pi and Banana Pi are knockoffs and are also not nearly as well supported.

>> No.3815701

>>3814194
You can't get 240p without RGB or VGA. Composite and S-video are 480i only.

>> No.3815719

>>3815595
Please inform me of a "more powerful" unit that gets regular kernel updates, has hardware video acceleration/experimental full OpenGL support, huge community knowledge base and support, Cortex A53 cores, and more.

The only downsides are the lack of a gig Ethernet, and 1GB of ram only. I can agree with you on that one. That really needs to be fixed by now. But I implore you to find a better value than the Pi 3. I'm sure you can find a board that has a higher clocked SoC but does it have A53 cores as well? Clock speed isn't the determining factor in performance, and the other aspects of the Pi that I have listed above are what makes the value so good.

>> No.3816056

>>3812272
Pi 3 can emulate up to some dreamcast games.
Basically as good as a Pentium 4.

>> No.3816180
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3816180

>>3812287

Here you go, Mohinder! Don't spend it all in one place!

>> No.3816858

>>3815692
>werds meen wut i says tey do
Top kek kid. Enjoy your over sized over priced under powered toy that has support for fools who can't figure out how to plug in power or an SD or whatever your retarded ass needs help with.

>>3815719
>please inform me of shit you're not talking about for a device you're not talking about.
Wanna throw any more logical fallacies on that strawman that missed the moved goal post? FYI, the pic is a PI2. If you knew anything about Pis you'd see that at a glance. And clock speed is probably the most critical factor in emulating, which is what this thread is about. On a Pi 2B. Like in the OP pic. And pic name.

>> No.3816870

I have Pi2 and it runs the 2D stuff flawlessly. Hopefully the Pi4 will have 8 core CPU and at least 2GB of ram so PS1 and N64 stuff will be finally run decently and not the way it does right now.

Also maybe ppsspp?

>> No.3817093

>>3812272
Good.
http://www.lakka.tv/
With the exception of some PSX titlesand N64, it can run most things.

>> No.3817746

>>3815701
well i know it's possible through the GPIO pins but i'm trying to keep powered converters to a minimum, there doesn't really seem to be an elegant solution for us plebs that don't want to shell out for a pvm.

i think possibly a pi2jamma into a jrok could work for me but i'm not certain. very few posts about the topic.

>> No.3819520

>>3817746
Well it depends what you mean by "possible over GPIO pins" because it is still not possible to get S-video at all on a raspberry pi off the board itself. The hardware just isn't there, AFAIK. You will have to convert from SOMETHING to get S-video. The board cannot make it. The HDMI port can drive 240p with a simple setting so you might be able to get an adapter that converts HDMI to S-video/RGB for cheap, though I havent ever needed it so I'm not sure. I honestly kinda want to now though since you mention it because composite is ass.

>> No.3819802

>>3813252
Check this queer out here!

>> No.3819936

Where to get a decent mame romset that isn't 30gb or just a ton of shit that doesn't work? I am newish to mame but not to the other emus/the pi itself, so I had to read a wiki on how to convert a romset and lookup what version etc I need for the emus included with retropie. Most work, but things like alien vs predator do not. Although I think thats universal for AvP not to work.

I wish I could find a romset that was confirmed working on pi instead of either "top 200" romset or a 30-60gb romset of a ton of shit I won't ever play.

Also curious about adding roms I download seperately from a rompack - if I throw them in the folder and convert them like I did the first time it should work right? I've been using cmpro if it matters.

>> No.3820964

>>3819936
If you want games like Avp to work try using FBAlpha or a neogeo emulator with their respective roms. You need the correct version just like mame.

As for the rompacks, they should work if you convert them correctly. Just be sure you have the correct .Dat files whole converting.

>> No.3821081

>>3812272
Been using one for a year. Emulation up to 4th generation (Genesis/SNES) is perfect. Emulation for PSX and Sega 32x is strong. N64 is iffy, with I'd say only 20% of games actually playable. Saturn is not playable in any way.

As for arcade, you have good emulation for most games up to the mid 90's. Some of the Mame engines take analog controls very well. But you can forget any light gun games on any sort of modern display device.

Built-in bluetooth means using PS3 or PS4 controllers is a breeze. But I prefer and use USB corded SNES controllers.

>> No.3821092

>>3815719

They're not going to "fix" the 1 GB "problem" because the raspberry pi foundation sees the cost-per-unit as the ultimate driving force for their design. If they can't keep the thing under $36/unit retail, they're not interested. The only reason the 2 got upgraded to the 3 so quickly is because the A53 SoC became cheaper to acquire than the A7 used in the 2.

>> No.3821116

>>3821092
It's architecture can't address more than 1GB. Of course I totally didn't see the new SoC coming, so who knows.

>> No.3821123

>>3821116

Nonsense. It can handle up to 4GB. The foundation only puts 1GB in for cost reasons.

Also, despite being a true 64-bit chip, every raspberry pi 3 I've seen still runs on a 32-bit kernel supplied by the foundation. Even though there is 64-bit kernel support for that particular Broadcom chipset now.

I don't think they care about squeezing performance out of the pi. It's all about bringing ultra-cheap and rugged solid-state computers to every impoverished corner of the world. (Despite the fact that the vast majority of their users are 1st-world hobbyists.)

Basically, the issue with the raspberry pi in general is that the makers have an entirely different vision for their product than their users.

>> No.3821152

>>3821123
>Nonsense. It can handle up to 4GB. The foundation only puts 1GB in for cost reasons.
Everything I've read over the years has claimed 1 GB, but that might be due to no one manufacturing a larger RAM of that type. Originally it maxed at 512MB because that was the largest RAM of that type that came in a PoP. That's why the redesign to a separate RAM chip in the Pi2/3.

>Also, despite being a true 64-bit chip, every raspberry pi 3 I've seen still runs on a 32-bit kernel supplied by the foundation. Even though there is 64-bit kernel support for that particular Broadcom chipset now.
True. They claim to be uncertain as to the benefits of using the 64bit kernel. It also allows them to avoid splitting their software between versions.

>Basically, the issue with the raspberry pi in general is that the makers have an entirely different vision for their product than their users.
Yeah, popularity with hobbyists funds their aims

>> No.3821161

>>3821152
I guess by architecture, I thought you meant what the chipset will support. If by architecture you mean "what will physically fit on the board", well then you may be right.

>> No.3821217

>>3819936
Just use fire burn alpha for your pi arcade needs. I think I found a Google Doc of games compatible with the retropie version of FBA on some raspberry pi or emulation subreddit

>> No.3821223

>>3821217

Final Burn Alpha supports only a small subset of boards supported by MAME. It's good for NEO GEO system games and Capcom games which use CPS1 or CPS2 boards.

FBA is nice because their focus is performance, whereas MAME's focus is accurate emulation. But you'll still need MAME for all the shit FBA doesn't even try to emulate.

>> No.3821226

>>3821223
It works really well with Konami games too. I guess Capcom, Konami, and Neo Geo covers 95% of my own personal arcade interests (aside from sega, but their home consoles are essentially their arcade hardware anyway so who cares?) so I never noticed the lack of compatibility.

>> No.3823717

>>3812272
https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/

>> No.3823735

>>3813384
I'd say that a 30-35 dollars Android Box will do the trick and you'll also have a bigger catalog, RPi can't play Android games or NDS games.

>> No.3823842

>>3823717
ree

>> No.3824118

>>3812272
That's an atari right?

>> No.3824118,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>3813726
How are you cooling it? I get the thermometer icon any time I play something like an arcade ROM. Running the PI3 with a couple small heatsinks that came with the Canik kit.

$ vcgencmd measure_temp
temp=83.8'C

>> No.3825737 [DELETED] 

>>3821217
do you know which romset the pi version of fba uses? i tried just transferring over my fightcade roms and none of them load.