The single most important publication in the history of game magazines

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The single most important publication in the history of game magazines

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:05:17 2017 No.3812221 File: 63 KB, 400x274, Mystical-Ninja-Starring-Goemon-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >May 1997 Just wait until summer, best game incoming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:08:28 2017 No.3812227 >>3812221 Mah nigga

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:12:10 2017 No.3812230 File: 1.28 MB, 3818x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 40.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:13:30 2017 No.3812234 File: 2.61 MB, 3806x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 42.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812230 >)

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:14:19 2017 No.3812238 File: 119 KB, 800x610, nintendoisdoomed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812230 IT'S OVER! NINTENDO IS FINISHED!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:14:38 2017 No.3812240 File: 2.72 MB, 3810x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 44.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812234

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:15:45 2017 No.3812241 File: 2.35 MB, 3798x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 46.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812240

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:16:50 2017 No.3812245 File: 1.15 MB, 1909x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 48.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812241

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:17:58 2017 No.3812247 File: 2.41 MB, 3811x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 49.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812245

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:18:30 2017 No.3812249 >>3812214 this mag was trash, PSM during the PS1 era is the gold standard. >>3812221 epic robot meme :^) the game was actually good though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:18:34 2017 No.3812250 File: 42 KB, 500x350, 51euO%2B2peiL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812234 Resident Evil 2 [is] far better than most N64 titles retrospective kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:19:42 2017 No.3812252 File: 2.66 MB, 3813x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 56.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812247

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:20:52 2017 No.3812257 File: 2.61 MB, 3815x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 58.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812252

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:21:59 2017 No.3812259 File: 2.61 MB, 3813x2600, Next Generation May #29 (1997) - Page 60.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812257

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:24:58 2017 No.3812263 File: 10 KB, 300x225, 07-minister.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812247 >Problem? There's no problem

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:25:51 2017 No.3812264 >>3812257 >>3812259 >Creator >Kirby's Air Ride >Earthbound 64 >Unreal >Super Mario 2 >Metroid 64 >Freak Boy >Contra 64 epic

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:38:27 2017 No.3812282 >>3812264 Hey, not all of them got cancelled! > Superman 64

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:46:06 2017 No.3812294 >>3812259 > Yoshi's Island 64 > "with Miyamoto at the helm" Question: was he really involved with that turd?

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:14:47 2017 No.3812346 [DELETED]

>>3812294
Here are a few questions he answered re: the game, from a November 1997 IGN interview

>N64.com: How does Yoshi's Story differ from the previous Yoshi's Island for the Super NES?

Miyamoto: They are almost identical in terms of gameplay. But each of the ideas in Yoshi's Story is something that we couldn't realize in the previous Yoshi game, and the quality is much higher. And it's "very gentle" to the player. It's basically a 2D game, but we call it a 2.5D game in which very large objects can rotate, you can move around with the 3D joystick, and you can even feel objects tremble before they move because of the Rumble Pak. And there are lots of new ideas.

N64.com: Yoshi's Story is a very good example for the style of games you prefer to make -- very clean and cartoon-like games. Considering the popularity of titles like Resident Evil and Tomb Raider, are there also plans for games with a more grown-up feel from Nintendo®?

Miyamoto: I personally like the games you mentioned, and I think that Zelda is already a step into that direction and walks a fine line. And as long as we can maintain the same high quality with our games, I think we would like to try anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:19:43 2017 No.3812363 >>3812346 >and the quality is much higher. It's like he's talking about a different game, really. That's pretty weird: Shiggy was a supervisor for the game, and it was made by japs only… But somehow it still turned mediocre at best.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:28:27 2017 No.3812889 >>3812238 Nintendo we used to know pretty much died.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:35:01 2017 No.3812904 >>3812238 I'll be glad when Nintendo goes third-party so you smug Nintendo manchildren will finally off yourselves.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:16:14 2017 No.3812948

>>3812238
The thing with Nintendo is that, first off, they have insane amounts of money stashed. They could be unprofitable for many years and still continue to exist.

Second, Nintendo still has THE biggest franchise in the world: Pokemon, and the handheld which will always sell due to it. They also have some of the other biggest franchises too, like Smash Bros, Mario, etc, which can and do sell systems. They actually beat most Western meme games in sales on regular basis.

So can they go bankrupt? I don't believe it. Can they quit games altogether? That's also highly unlikely because of Pokemon alone.

That said, they can fuck up. And they do this quite often. Wii U is a failure and sold less than the "disaster" that was GC. 3DS is selling half of what DS did. And Switch is looking like another attempt at the same thing as Wii U, with now-usual questionable gimmick.

But, the same can be said about any other console company. Sony? PS3 lost to X360 in US, and PS Vita is a console which seemingly no one cares about aside for Japan. Microsoft? They are set to make XB One the PS3 of this gen.

All of them make fuck ups. But all three at least seem to have heads on their shoulders, and billions in other businesses or banks. Sega had neither, so it's no wonder it died as soon as it fucked up its good fortune. But Nintendo of all companies don't have much to fear.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:29:34 2017 No.3812964

>>3812948

Doesn't Nintendo have some 10's of billions of dollars sitting in a war chest? They could fail 2 generations in a row and still be back for another, and that's not even counting their handheld consoles. As long as they have their exclusives they could probably hold enough customers hostage to their systems for some x number of years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:32:21 2017 No.3812968 >>3812889 Nintendo could leave the gaming industry altogether and go back to making playing cards only, while Nintendrones will still act smug about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:44:45 2017 No.3812982 File: 11 KB, 240x240, tmp_7910-image(8)-423131231.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812968 Toy conpany as it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:36:22 2017 No.3813258 File: 46 KB, 568x479, 1487535977896.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3812241 >While titles like Sony's Jumping Flash may not be blockbuster sellers, they possess an innovative quality sorely missing in N64 titles.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:44:41 2017 No.3813263
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>>3812904
Clearly another fucking clueless child.

Nintendo posted a profit of $300 million for last year's Christmas period - on the back of 6 year old handheld and a dead home console.

Nintendo aren't going anywhere. Get that through your skull.

Furthermore, Nintendo are the ONLY company making innovative hardware right now. They're the only ones trying.

All Sony and Microsoft are bringing to the table is "muh graficks". Whoopee fucking doo.

Consoles are DEAD. They're on their way out. Microsoft know it - they're practically going 3rd party.

And Sony's next console will be yet another shit-tier PC rig with it's own exclusives.

The question isn't 'when will Nintendo go 3rd party'? It's 'when will Sony'?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:47:37 2017 No.3813267 >>3813263 >reddit spacing

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:52:52 2017 No.3813274

>>3813263
>consoles are dead, because they use x86
>nintendo's innovative, because they use custom tablet build
Consoles weren't that far from computers all the time. Companies designed custom chips because general-purpose chips weren't that fast at making a good picture.
Now existing chips are fast. Why to bother with creating custom chips when you can get fast enough chips off the shelf?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:59:02 2017 No.3813281

>>3813274
>Why to bother with creating custom chips when you can get fast enough chips off the shelf?

That's exactly what's killing consoles off. There's been an unavoidable streamling of tech over the past 15 years. And consoles have and ALWAYS will contain obsolete tech as soon as it's released.

The problem facing consoles now it how far PC gaming has come. It's no longer a compatibility minefield. It's pretty fucking easy to pick a laptop that will blow consoles clear out of the water performance-wise as well as providing many other things consoles cannot.

Also, I'm saying the Switch is innovative because of it's chipset. I'm just saying at least Nintendo are bringing something to the table other than a generic shit-tier PC rig.

At least they try, god bless 'em.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:00:28 2017 No.3813282 >>3813281 >I'm NOT saying the Switch is innovative because of it's chipset. Fuck my english.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:06:09 2017 No.3813285 >>3813281 Yeah, consoles are fucked. PC masterace will inherit the earth.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:32:17 2017 No.3813317

>>3813281
>It's pretty fucking easy to pick a laptop that will blow consoles clear out of the water performance-wise
And it is going to cost more than console itself.

>I'm just saying at least Nintendo are bringing something to the table other than a generic shit-tier PC rig
Nintendo always places bets on gimmicks.

I don't understand why it's necessary to be defensive about consoles. Essentially there's no difference between consoles and computers, because consoles are computers with custom input devices and custom manufacturer-approved software.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:34:45 2017 No.3813324

>>3813317
>Nintendo always places bets on gimmicks.

Gimmicks are the only thing a console can offer which PC can't. If you build the whole console around the gimmick, all the games will use it, whereas a gimmicky peripheral for PC will get at most a few games utilizing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:43:06 2017 No.3813337 >>3813317 >Nintendo always places bets on gimmicks. what were the gimmicks on NES, SNES, N64 and Gamecube?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:59:52 2017 No.3813349

>>3813324
>Gimmicks are the only thing a console can offer which PC can't
>Gimmicks are the only thing
>and branding
>and hardware-exclusive games
>the only

>>3813337
>NES
Pads, front-loader
>SNES
Mode 7, though it's more a hardware feature than a gimmick
>N64
True™ 3D analog stick
>Gamecube
formfactor

Well, I can consider that I may be wrong with SNES and GNC though. Brand (ads), games and gimmicks make the console, in this order.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:16:43 2017 No.3813369 >>3813258 It came out more than a year before Super Mario 64, Jumping Flash is innovative even though it's a bit outdated by today standards.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:25:20 2017 No.3813382

>>3813369
Yeah I know when came out, I was actually unfortunate enough to buy that piece of shit. It was a broken fucking mess of a game. Nobody had a clue how to make platforming work in 3D until Nintendo made Mario 64. In terms of innovation, Mario 64 was on a completely different planet from everything else at the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:31:12 2017 No.3813431 >>3813349 >Gamecube >Form factor Also double stage triggers.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:40:31 2017 No.3813439

>>3813263
>Innovative
You mean gimmicky right?
Hey you wanna play games? OK but you gotta move around like a madman and also our controllers are shit so buy an add on that adds accuracy. Nintendo near the end of the Wii's life decided to ditch the motion control meme and just made a bunch of games compatible with the "pro" controller and GameCube controller.
The Wii u was them backpedaling a bit with the motion control, but was still gimmicky AF and had uncomfortable forced use of its muh tablet gimmick (said by even die hard fans, for example Star Fox)
The DS was like: hey fuck buttons play with this shitty touchscreen and it was annoying AF. Most games didn't even use the touchscreen as a touchscreen and just ended up putting a minimap or whatever on the bottom, also it had less than n64 graphics.
>Inb4 graphics don't matter
Console wars revolved around graphics and graphics were the main selling/marketing point of retro consoles and games (eg donkey Kong country)
Sure it was sold well, but that's because it was made for the kid and casual majority. I remember being at GameStop back when the PSP was out and a 10 year old kid was asking his mom to buy him a PSP and the clerk told his mom that it was for mature games only and wasn't appropriate for kids and she ended up buying him a DS. Sure he may have been dumb, but how many soccer moms may have googled for 3 seconds PSP and saw the news stories about PSP browser being used to watch porn or some other bs like that (Google PlayStation pornable) and immediately turn away to googling Nintendo and seeing little pokemon creatures and a happy plumber guy. Everyone over 13 had a PSP at that point and it focused on games in a traditional sense. No crazy gimmicks, no weird screens, no meme concepts, etc. Tbh I think thats why the Vita died. No one asked for a gimmicky accelerometer and a back touchpad.
Nintendo lives on only by name recognition, if not for the Nintendo brand, people would despise their consoles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:44:01 2017 No.3813443 >>3812889 It's still the same shit, just shitty consoles. >Platformers >Collectathons >linear "Adventure" games >Mario spin-offs >Mario in some sport >One fighting game, ssb

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:48:22 2017 No.3813447

>>3813439
That's some nice historical revisionism about PSP. It actually did sell better than DS at first.

It lost in the end because the DS started getting better *portable* games, while the PSP kept on getting shrunken down home games filled with load times and cinematics.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:50:36 2017 No.3813448

>>3813282
Switch isn't innovative. They saw wow guys tablets and smartphone games are really taking off, hell pokemon go had more active users per month than people who buy our consoles, what can we do?
Hmm, let's make a tablet but with controllers, And use SD card looking things as the game medium.
Nintendo is fucking out of touch. Just look at Mario run, it's like 10$ USD for a few levels and they said they wouldn't add more, even when a typical runner game is free.
Tablets these days have graphics just as good or better than the Wii u, especially the ones with Nvidia Tegra chips.
In the end after the hype dies, Nintendo will have another failed console on their hands while instead of making a gaming console, they made a gaming tablet that can basically do the same as a tablet with a Bluetooth controller and a Chromecast or stream tablet to TV dongle

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:56:15 2017 No.3813453 Only casuals are buying consoles these days. 90% of a consoles use comes from if it plays netflix or not.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:56:44 2017 No.3813454

>>3813439
>You mean gimmicky right?

There was a time when shoulder buttons, analogue controls, rumble packs wireless controllers and touch screens were all gimmicks.

Now they're standard.

Not everything is a hit. But Nintendo take RISKS. Gotta respect that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:58:09 2017 No.3813457 >>3813448 >Switch isn't innovative. Uhhh... yes.... yes it is.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:03:33 2017 No.3813461

>>3813454
Big leap from "Hey lets make the famicom a rad front loader" or "Hey lets slap a rumble pack in Starfox 64, Rad!" to "Hey here's some waggle shit and a controller that looks more like a TV remote than a controller. Oh hold it sideways like a retard for the "NES" feel".

Naw fuck Nintendo. Nintendo succeeded because they did their own thing with powerful hardware, great CS support, and games. They've lost most of that. And I own a Wii U before you call me a shill for another company. The only console I bought in the last 10 years was a Wii U. Nintendo should had got more hardcore as the years went on. Instead they went the other direction to the point that it's so casual and underpowered people wont even buy CoD on their consoles. It may not be the way I want it but at least Nintendo hasn't joined the CoDbox market. Only positive I have to say about Nintendo these days.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:07:31 2017 No.3813464

>>3813439
>Console wars revolved around graphics

This a complete fallacy. Graphics and power are a selling point yes, but they dont win console wars.

The NES, GameBoy, PlayStation, DS, PlayStation 2, Wii - they were all underpowered compared to their competition and yet still won their respective 'wars'.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:10:51 2017 No.3813465

>>3813447
>while the PSP kept on getting shrunken down home games filled with load times and cinematics.
So you don't like the 3ds or switch I assume? Yknow with the shrunken down ports like oot, starfox, Majora's mask, etc
Or the switch, which it's whole gimmick is taking home games on the go?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:14:42 2017 No.3813468 >>3812238 Nah theyll keep going with handhelds while fucking up most home consoles. Apart from the wii, which I still dont understand how sold so much.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:16:47 2017 No.3813469

>>3813457
Is that your counter argument? Please elaborate. I just explained how it's basically a tablet with a controller.
Let's see:
Main console
>Tablets
Big touch screen with little to no buttons
>Switch
Big touch screen with little to no buttons

Controller
>tablets
Built in gamepad (some gaming tablet models) / removable Bluetooth joypad
>Switch
Built in game pad that's removable

Games
>Tablet
Digitally downloaded
Can be stored on micro SD cards and swapped
>Switch
Physically bought
Look like micro SD cards

Home gaming
>Tablet
Chromecast (or other TV streaming dongle)
>Switch
TV dongle/stand

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:20:43 2017 No.3813470 >>3813263 That dig at sony at the end. What is it about sony that nintendrones that triggers them so much?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:24:09 2017 No.3813474 >>3812249 >PSM Fuck I miss that mag. I didnt start subscribing until 2003, but by 2007 it was already shit and then became the official mag and i stopped subscribing i miss chris slate, randy, bill, and all the other guys

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:25:19 2017 No.3813475 >>3813267 >>reddit spacing okay what the fuck is this meme, why do people keep saying it

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:25:32 2017 No.3813476

>>3813469
>basically a tablet with a controller.
Except it's not. That's just shitposting.

The Switch has unique selling points:

A handheld/console hybrid which you take with you on the go and then INSTANTLY drop it into a dock to play on your TV. That's very forward thinking and it's the direction which a lot of future tech is headed.

The joycons detach and form their own controller or can used as two separate controllers. The versatility of the system allows it to instantly -ahem- switch from a single player experience to a two player experience.

The jury is still out on the icecube tech and IR cam. Personally I don't think much of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:27:16 2017 No.3813480 >>3813470 I have every PlayStation console kiddo. I just can't stand people who claim to be video game fans but are completely ignorant to how important Nintendo are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:28:03 2017 No.3813481 File: 97 KB, 562x453, 1451604466446.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >go to store to get the latest OPM >all the demo discs are stolen

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:31:03 2017 No.3813483 >>3813480 >are You mean were?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:31:10 2017 No.3813484

>>3813476
>3 hour battery life
Not him but anyone buying the Switch as a mobile gaming console is a fool.

>A handheld/console hybrid which you take with you on the go and then INSTANTLY drop it into a dock to play on your TV. That's very forward thinking and it's the direction which a lot of future tech is headed.
Yes because cellphones are going towards "docking" for wifi.
Yes because tablets are going towards "docking" for wifi.
Yes because laptops are going towards "docking" for wifi.

The future is and has been wireless. Not locking you to docks. This is fanboism at it's worse.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:43:50 2017 No.3813501

>>3813469
You can say this about anything, it's kind of an oversimplification.

The PlayStation is just an N64 that can play discs, for example.

Anyways it's not like the other two major companies are innovating that much. It's not like the PS4 or the Xbox One are drastically innovative compared to their predecessors, so it's really a moot argument.

>>3813468
The Wii was actually a pretty innovative machine. The motion gimmick caught on with the casual crowd. That's where a lot of the sales came from. People fucking love Wii Sports man.

All in all it was a decent console, although I agree it was a step down from the Gamecube. Not as bad as the WiiU though, which failed in part because it had so few attractive mainline Nintendo games (Just a few Mario ones I think, no Zelda or Metroid or Fire Emblem).

Nintendo needs to get its shit together when it comes to mainline games, and just make sure there's a good amount available from the start. Other M might have been shit, but that doesn't mean pepole don't want a new Metroid game. Just listen to your fans when it comes to the gripes about that game, and try again.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:48:42 2017 No.3813509

>>3813484
>3 hour batter life
Just like the 3DS. That sold more than 60 million units and counting and is nowhere near capable of delivering the kind of gaming experience the switch can.

>The future is and has been wireless. Not locking you to docks.
It's both.
In future you will have ONE device which pretty much does everything. You won't have a set-top box for your TV. You won't have music system. You won't have a PlayStation 7, 8 or 9.

Everything will be an app on one device. Your TV subscription will be an app - you will watch movies and shows on the go and then come home, drop it in a dock and it will be on your TV.

The PlayStation will an app on your device for which you will pay sony a subscription. You'll stream games direct to the device which you can play portable or, again, dock it with your TV.

This is a pipe dream. But it is absolutely the future that is heading our way in the next couple of decades. Some will be repulsed by it - I know I will have trouble - but if there is one absolute, undeniable truth about technology, it's that CONVENIENCE will always be the driving factor.

So in this regard, Nintendo are actually ahead of the curve.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:55:43 2017 No.3813518

>>3813509
>In future you will have ONE device which pretty much does everything.

Like some sort of...PC?

I get that it currently requires a lot of effort (for laymen) to get it rigged to actually do everything, but this probably won't become that much easier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:00:03 2017 No.3813526 >>3813518 I'm thinking it will be more of an amalgamation of mobile and PC tech. Even more so than they are right now. Just to be clear, I'm pulling this out my ass, it's a end point we're gravitating towards.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:00:07 2017 No.3813527

>>3813509
>Just like the 3DS. That sold more than 60 million units and counting and is nowhere near capable of delivering the kind of gaming experience the switch can.
Was cheaper and you easily get 4 hours out of it.

You're a fanboy man. That's all there is to it. Here's an example of how Nintendo could had been truly innovative but instead just makes a dock. Something that has been around for fucking ever. Fanboys like you just nut over it. Nintendo could had made a cheap and non laggy wireless hdmi signal. That might had been something.

All that app shit you're talking about doesn't exisit either. And judging from the Wii U either Nintendo or the streaming services don't care about each other. Maybe both. Wii U's streaming was basically limited to Netflix and Crunchyroll.

>So in this regard, Nintendo are actually ahead of the curve.
By your made up shit? Ya...

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:03:26 2017 No.3813534 >>3812904 Not gonna happen. And even if it did, you think that would make Nintendo loyailsts go away? Fuck no. Just look at the Sega fans and imagine it being like five times worse.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:05:15 2017 No.3813536

>>3813527

You can get about 4 hours out of the original 3DS. The switch is about 3.5 hours. Not bad considering the switch is running a AAA homr console experience. The battery life is a fucking non-argument. Otherwise the 3DS woulf have flopped.

>All that app shit you're talking about doesn't exisit either.
Of course it doesn't exist. YET. Did you even read what I said?

Also, I'll say it again, I have every PlayStation. I'm a fan of VIDEO GAMES period.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:11:15 2017 No.3813538

>>3813536
>The switch is about 3.5 hours. Not bad considering the switch is running a AAA homr console experience.
An ipad has far better battery life. So yes it's not bad, it's terrible.
>The battery life is a fucking non-argument. Otherwise the 3DS woulf have flopped
The whole point of the 3ds for many was a separate device to not drain your phones battery.

>Also, I'll say it again, I have every PlayStation. I'm a fan of VIDEO GAMES period.
You sound like cancer to me. I don't know how a true fan of a hobby supports its destruction.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:18:43 2017 No.3813542

>>3813538
>An ipad has far better battery life. So yes it's not bad, it's terrible.
Remind me how much an IPad costs again?
>The whole point of the 3ds for many was a separate device to not drain your phones battery.
So what's your point? The switch is also a dedicated gaming device.
>You sound like cancer to me. I don't know how a true fan of a hobby supports its destruction.
How am I supporting it's destruction?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:23:51 2017 No.3813547

>>3813476
Same with tablets.
Just press the cast button and plop it down.
The bluetooth gamepad is removable and you can add more than one for multiplayer games.
It's literally a tablet that only plays Nintendo licensed games and doesn't do anything else. Also remember the pay-per-month to play online or use any sort of online social app or whatever they replace Miiverse with. Also enjoy paying 60$ for ports of games that came out years ago and cost 3$ now (Skyrim comes to mind)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:25:10 2017 No.3813549 >>3813542 >Remind me how much an IPad costs again? The Switch is hardly cheap. >So what's your point? The switch is also a dedicated gaming device. It's a "hybrid" tablet. >How am I supporting it's destruction? Buying CoDboxes for one.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:30:05 2017 No.3813553

>>3813509
>Nintendo makes an inconvenient console
>see they're ahead of the curve ;)
Sorry buddy, they're not. The switch, besides games and a Miiverse-esque social platform, will at most, have Netflix. Now look at for example Xbox. Not only do they have Netflix but other streaming platforms, web browsers, live TV, multistaking, etc. I don't like the Xbox but it is way ahead of your predicted curve. It was called Xbox one because it was an all-in-ONE machine, games, TV, music, movies, YouTube, etc. Switch will have, again, at most Netflix. And knowing Nintendo, they'll only let you use it when it's docked. And if not, well good luck watching a series or more than 2 movies with that 3 hour battery life

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:33:50 2017 No.3813560 >>3813553 You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying the switch is or will be an all-in-one device. I'm saying that Nintendo are embracing the insta-dock concept which WILL be the future for us all.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:35:24 2017 No.3813562

>>3813536
>AAA home experience
You do know that when it's undocked the CPU and GPU become extremely underclocked right? It's so it doesn't heat up and melt and push the battery life to 1 hour. You'll be getting Wii u like graphics or worse when it's undocked. A Vita could easily beat it graphically undocked. Do you want to play full made for TV/monitor games on a 7inch screen with everything on super low? I imagine some idiot will.find a way to turn off the underclocking and everyone will disable it only to realize it reduces its working life by a fuckton or immediately overheats and shuts down

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:38:07 2017 No.3813567 File: 493 KB, 320x240, 1484698847468.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3813560 >I'm saying that Nintendo are embracing the insta-dock concept which WILL be the future for us all. Stop

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:38:34 2017 No.3813570 >>3813562 All of this is misguided. Undocked, the resolution drops to 720p to compenstate for the battery. On a screen that size who gives a fuck. Everyone who has played it says it still looks great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:39:37 2017 No.3813572 >>3813567 I sense, like me, you will have trouble adjusting in the future.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:40:28 2017 No.3813573

>>3813542
>How much does a tablet cost?
Not much. I got a 100$ one and it's battery life lasts 5-6 hours of constant use, (i.e. YouTube webbrowser random work apps, a game or two) at minimum , and 4hours when I'm playing graphic heavy games without stopping.
The switch is like 400-500$ isn't it? For 3 hour battery? And that's, what in sleep mode? What about constant use?

>I don't know how a true fan of the hobby supports it's destruction
Exactly because I am a fan of the gaming hobby, I feel like it is my duty to criticize even more and have higher standards. I want this to flourish. I have seen this happen 3 times with Nintendo already, and they're doing the same shit again. I want Nintendo to make a good and successful console, but they refuse to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:41:21 2017 No.3813575 >>3813562 Its not gonna overheat in the dock so it wouldn't out the dock. However yes the battry gonna last like 10m if someone does figure out how to overclock it undocked. Im hoping for the switch tv in a year or two.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:41:43 2017 No.3813578 >>3813549 I'm an idiot, I meant >>3813538

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:44:15 2017 No.3813582

>>3813549
>The Switch is hardly cheap.
That's debatable. But it's moot. A tablet is not going to provide the same gaming experience the switch no matter how you try and spin it.
>It's a "hybrid" tablet.
Again, I don't understand what your point is? You're going off in tangents.
>Buying CoDboxes for one.
So by purchasing Sony and Nintendo consoles and games, I'm contributing to the destruction of the industry? The fuck?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:45:39 2017 No.3813586

>>3813575
The dock presumably has fans of some sort. GPUs produce heat.
>>3813567
Literally not even.
Every tablet, phone, mobile device, etc is using wireless streaming to TV or monitor or whatever. Why do you think you go and Google and search Android and many results are "best Android streaming dongle" or whatever. No one wants to plop their device in a shitty dock, everything is wireless now. Wireless headphones, wireless charging, wireless gamepads, wireless streaming, etc. To go back to docks would be a step back

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:46:43 2017 No.3813590 >>3813570 Dude, the reports and leaks and everything about it say that it heavily underclocks. Stop denying shit you don't want to be real

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:49:21 2017 No.3813594
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>>3813572
Docks have been around since the 80s. I'm not sure if you're underageb& or just computer illiterate. I couldn't even tell you the first computer with a "docking" interface since the idea is old as shit. To have external expansion hardware you can connect to has been around for fucking ever.

Sony has done it with their TVs and Sony products also.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:51:30 2017 No.3813601
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>>3813573
>>How much does a tablet cost?
That anon didn't say 'tablet' he said 'Ipad'. If you're going to quote don't make shit up. Also, the switch is NOT a tablet. Trying to compare it to one is ridiculous.

>The switch is like 400-500$ isn't it? For 3 hour battery? And that's, what in sleep mode? What about constant use?
$300 I believe. No idea about sleep mode. That's a good point.
>I am a fan of the gaming hobby, I feel like it is my duty to criticize even more and have higher standards. I want this to flourish. I have seen this happen 3 times with Nintendo already, and they're doing the same shit again. I want Nintendo to make a good and successful console, but they refuse to.

What would you have Nintendo do? Develop yet another mainstream console for the market? It would just be another shit-tier PC with it's own exclusives - which is all the PS4 and X-Bone are.

What would be the point? How would that be good for anybody? Love them or hate them, Nintendo are at least trying to bring something fresh to the table.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:52:08 2017 No.3813603 >>3813582 >So by purchasing Sony and Nintendo consoles and games, I'm contributing to the destruction of the industry? The fuck? You support modern cancer. Sorry you're retarded.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:54:39 2017 No.3813608

>>3813594
Pervious or current tech is not even on the same page of what I'm talking about.

This is why everyone was skeptical about the switches ability of being able to instantly transfer from handheld to TV and were genuinely impressed when they saw it working.

In the future, tech of this kind will be refined and perfected to the point where the concept is almost invisible to us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:56:00 2017 No.3813610 >>3813601 Not him but are you ready for this crazy idea? Adjust yourself in the chair. What if.. You with me? What if Nintendo just made an actual game console with no bullshit multi media features. A hardcore balls out piece of hardware.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:56:32 2017 No.3813613 >>3813603 If you can't evolve you will die. By your reasoning, I guess I'm not allowed to watch classic movies or listen to older albums if I also buy new releases?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:57:06 2017 No.3813614 >>3813608 That's a cool story bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:57:34 2017 No.3813615 >>3813610 >What if Nintendo just made an actual game console with no bullshit multi media features. A hardcore balls out piece of hardware. Because there is NO POINT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:58:27 2017 No.3813617 >>3813613 How is that my reasoning? How do the old games die if I only play old games? Oh right you've established you're modern gamer cancer. That's how you guys think. It's sad and comical at the same time how hiveminded you guys are,.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:59:30 2017 No.3813621 >>3813615 There's no point in making a real game console in modern times. Guess that's a sad fact.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:00:28 2017 No.3813623 >>3813617 You're suggesting that the entire vidya industry needs to die so that all we have to play are retro games? That is sociopathic.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:01:40 2017 No.3813624

>>3813601
Oh shit I guess an iPad isn't a tablet.

>Nintendo is trying to bring something fresh to the table
A gaming tablet with a dock, but let's say it is. Every console has been a flop since they started the stupid gimmicks, besides the DS. No one wants gimmicks. Remember the shitstorm when the switch was revealed to be yet another meme gimmicky console with motion controls? EVERYONE was mad. Even hardcore fanboys asking, why can't Nintendo make a normal console. No one asked for arm flailing controls for the Wii, and while it had good sales numbers, it was only because of hype and moms buying it for their kids or themselves to be active. Not even half a year later I was seeing them at GameStop for 70$, after the gimmick faded away. Remember everyone got mad when the Wii U was revealed to be yet another gimmicky console? No one asked for a shitty kind of a tablet kind of a TV console. Remember the storm when games forced people to use the gimmick even though it was uncomfortable to look at the screen and to the tablet and back and forth?? Remember the hype for starfox and how fast it died when people realized that they pushed the gimmick so hard that aiming and flying was nearly impossible
Because you had to look down at the tablet to aim but look at the tv to see where you were flying, at the same time?
I don't see people asking for yet another gimmick filled console, yet here it is again. Why not just make a normal console for Nintendo exclusives? It's worked from NES up till Gamecube, why wouldn't it work now??

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:02:28 2017 No.3813625 File: 149 KB, 1152x1124, thestartofcancer2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3813623 A collapse is needed. Not to go back to retro games. To get the cancer out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:06:31 2017 No.3813630 >>3812238 Died was always hyperbole. They've been relegated to shit status for over a decade now.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:06:54 2017 No.3813632

>>3813625
>Games I don't like are cancer
They're popular for a reason buddy.
I personally hate all the modern war shooter game genre but people like it and its popular for a reason. Any Nintendo console game couldn't even hit half of those game sales figures. I bet if you look at most played Nintendo games per console it'd be
Mario
LoZ
Mario spin-off
Donkey Kong

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:07:34 2017 No.3813634 >>3813625 Well I won't argue with that, I think it's in the mail.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:08:16 2017 No.3813635 >>3813632 I don't make excuses for cancer. Not sure why you modern gamers treat video games differently to other hobbies. Just casual shitters I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:10:17 2017 No.3813642 >>3813635 >Games I don't like are cancer >Why do you treat games differently? >Don't you know that if a game isn't what I specifically like it's cancer?? >Stop making excuses for cancer

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:11:30 2017 No.3813648

>>3813624
Nintendo have fucked up plenty of times.

But they've also had a lot of success by taking risks. By doing the thing no else dared or thought of. By pushing the envelope of what peoples expectations of interactive entertainment should be.

As a company, Nintendo are a bunch of cunts. But you can't deny the industry would be a sorry fucking state without them around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:12:18 2017 No.3813650 >>3813635 Seems all you think are "muh modern cancer gaymz" are cod and GTA. Can you name 5 games without googling that aren't Cod, battlefield, or gta?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:13:33 2017 No.3813653 >>3813648 >Nintendo has had a lot of success Sales figures prove otherwise Everything went downhill after the n64

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:13:38 2017 No.3813654 >>3813642 Nice excuses there cancer. >>3813650 >Can you name 5 games without googling that aren't Cod, battlefield, or gta? Not sure if this is a joke or you worded that wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:15:06 2017 No.3813658 >>3813654 >Is this a joke I guess you can't name 5 games. Can't name 5 games yet shits on everything because he doesn't like a few games

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:16:06 2017 No.3813661 >>3813653 Have you heard of the GameBoy Advance? The DS? The Wii? The 3DS?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:17:19 2017 No.3813662 >>3813658 5 games for what you retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:17:22 2017 No.3813663 >>3813635 Why does /vr/ attract retards like this? It's literally like the concept of different opinions is beyond your understanding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:19:23 2017 No.3813671 >>3813663 It's not opinions. That's the issue.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:20:24 2017 No.3813674

>>3813661
All of them portable consoles. Besides the Wii.
Again, after a few months I was seeing them for sale at 70$ used on GameStop. Best way to see success of a console.are game sales way after release. One thing is reeling them in another is keeping them there. You're also ignoring sales figures compared to others with the gamecube and Wii u.
GBA had literally no competition, 3ds has sold waaaay less than the DS

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:22:12 2017 No.3813676 >>3813675 Your ignorance of that fact is telling. There's a portion of people buying consoles like the PS4 just to stream and play Blu Rays. Nothing more. And you modern gamer cancer tells me shit like "it's opinion". Oh man.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:22:29 2017 No.3813678

>>3813671
>I don't like this game, this is cancer
>Ok, thats your opinion and many others beg to differ
>ITS NOT AN OPINION ITS FACT
>But the same game you call cancer has many sales so I guess it isn't cancer to others
>DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ITS NOT AN OPINION ITS A FACT

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:23:40 2017 No.3813679 >>3813671 How are opinions not opinions? Please explain this to us. How is your opinion of what the quality of these games are more correct or important than the millions of other people with their own opinions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:24:44 2017 No.3813682 >>3813678 Same shit from you guys every time. Pure ignorance. 3 years from now you wont care about the the PS4. Be onto the next cancer.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:26:12 2017 No.3813683

>>3813676
>People buy consoles to stream
>People buy TV's to not watch cable tv
>people buy PC's to not just game
>People buy cards to collect and not play
>People buy phones to not call
>People buy headphones and listen to other things that aren't music
>People buy retro consoles to collect and not play

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:26:48 2017 No.3813684 >>3813653 Contrary to what seems to be popular belief, the N64 was hugely profitable, at least for Nintendo. They made huge dosh on those cartridges.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:27:15 2017 No.3813685

>>3813679
/vr/ is a board where people will unironically try to tell you that climate change has nothing to to with humans because someone who has repeatedly shown he can't even check basic facts before running his mouth told them it's "just weather" and there's no real evidence. Expecting intelligent thought out of people like that is a bit much to ask.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:27:21 2017 No.3813686

>>3813674
The 3DS has sold 60 million+ and was still sold out in many store over Christmas - desite being 6 fucking years old.

And 3DS has competition not only from the Vita but from smart phones as well. I'm actually amazed it has sold as much as it did, especially after it's disastrous launch.

Their home consoles haven't sold as well as the competition and but that doesn't mean they were failures.

The GameCube had to compete with Sony and Microsoft's mutimedia home entertainment systems. It held it's own pretty well considering the GameCube was simply a dedicated gaming system - funny how people keep crying out for Nintendo to make another.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:27:37 2017 No.3813687 >>3813663 Don't forget, these are the people who think they are "saving us" from becoming /v/

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:28:47 2017 No.3813691 >>3813687 Meanwhile /v/ feels like a friendly vacation compared to this place now. /vr/ has some really special trolls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:29:17 2017 No.3813692 >>3813601 You know the switch is just an upgraded nvidia shield tablet right?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:29:38 2017 No.3813694

>>3813682
Idk man, most people moved on from retro consoles and onto more modern ones. We're a (comparitavley) small group of reto game afficionados, not everyone cares about the NES or the SNES or the genesis.
Anyways I still see people play the ps2 so guess they haven't "moved" on

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:30:23 2017 No.3813696 >>3813683 Irrelevant to the discussion. >>3813679 A game like Black Ops 3 on PS4 is objectively different to a game like Super Mario World on the SNES.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:32:31 2017 No.3813697 >>3813685 So there is scientific proof that modern games are cancer, or is it something I just heard from your mouth?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:33:07 2017 No.3813702
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>>3813694
I just like games from all eras. There's never been a year that goes by that at least a few games I've come to totally love have come out.

I still attest that people who have an arbitrary cut off for when it all "went to shit" or whatever aren't really fans of video games they're just fans of nostalgia and video games happen to hit that nostalgia button for them.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:35:04 2017 No.3813707 >>3813696 >A game like Black Ops 3 on PS4 is objectively different to a game like Super Mario World on the SNES. That's a fact. Now show me why it's objectively cancer for being different to super mario

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:35:14 2017 No.3813708

>>3813697
I am saying the guy saying modern games are all cancer is in the same boat as the person who says climate change has nothing to do with humans because an idiot who doesn't bother checking any facts told them and they were stupid enough to believe him.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:36:11 2017 No.3813710 >>3813703 I see click bait, or in this case, readbait was alive way back then huh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:37:41 2017 No.3813714 >>3813708 Games being good or bad aren't facts or fact checking. It's an opinion

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:40:08 2017 No.3813717 >>3813692 >You know the switch is just an upgraded nvidia shield tablet right? No it's not. Don't be such a joyless cynic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:40:10 2017 No.3813718 >>3813707 Leave subjective things like gameplay out. -DLC/season passes -Release broken -Pre order incentives -Achievements

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:43:47 2017 No.3813723

>>3813714
That's exactly my point. "modern games are cancer" dude is too stupid to understand that though. Not understanding opinions is essentially on the same level as not being able to check basic facts. It's just sad that /vr/ attracts so many people who are that stupid.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:48:24 2017 No.3813728

>>3813718
I'd suggest that the modern vidya industry is comparable to modern Hollywood - governed by greed, managed by small mindedness and focus grouped up the ass to point of utter consumer fatigue.

But, there's still plenty of greatness there. You don't have to throw and entire industry under the bus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:52:14 2017 No.3813732 >>3813625 Wow that list really turns to shit with madden. Everything above it is a great game. Ps1 and ps2 still the best home consoles ever made though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:52:32 2017 No.3813734 >>3813728 When the industry is 90% cancer you do. >>3813723 It's sad your kind is here.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:53:12 2017 No.3813735

>>3813718
The only one of those that's universally bad is broken releases but that's been par for the course with PC games since the retro era. If I were this turned off by shit like that I would never have got into gaming in the first place.

DLC is great for certain games and genres, like fighters specifically.

Preoders are fine for people into that.

Achievements give incentive to do extra things in a game. I like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:55:06 2017 No.3813738 >>3813734 My kind who can check basic facts and don't take kindly to bald faced lies being peddled as truth? I bet that really upsets you! Fucking simpleton.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:56:32 2017 No.3813740 >>3813735 You can't say X is good because 5% of the time it's good. That's illogical.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:01:24 2017 No.3813747

I think Nintendo's reluctance to use CD or at least some other optical disc format was a grave mistake. It was because of this that many SNES-exclusive series moved to PS1 instead of N64, e.g. Metal Gear, Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Castlevania etc. It's all their own fault.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:03:11 2017 No.3813749

>>3813740
I wouldn't agree it's only 5%, but if it was my point it still that it's the 5% that's good that I care about. When DLC is expensive and bullshit it's easily avoided so I don't care. When it's great then I'm happy it was there all along.

The end result is that every year a bunch of games get released I end up loving playing. That's ultimately all that matters. If Call of Duty was super popular with teenagers that year it makes no difference to me.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:07:36 2017 No.3813759

>>3813749
You could say X is garbage but this one time it was good. CoD has had multiple map packs that were basically paywalls for online.

Same thing applies to you. If you found a game that's good on PS4 that doesn't make modern games good.
>>3813738
More bs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:13:46 2017 No.3813765 >>3813718 >Dlc So basically expansion packs. >Broken day 1 Just don't buy those games, it's like shitting on the NES because some shitty game was released on it. >Achievements 100% completion in games like Metroid and collectathons

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:15:13 2017 No.3813768

>>3813759
>Same thing applies to you. If you found a game that's good on PS4 that doesn't make modern games good.

So good games aren't good games now? If I enjoy a game that's what matters to me. I can't speak of CoD because I don't play it, but clearly a lot of people are enjoying it enough to keep buying and playing. If they're happy with what they're getting it's of no concern to me.

>More bs.

How is this bs? How is having a world leader who is at best too stupid to keep basic facts right (like how many votes he got), or at worst knows he is lying and hoping no one else will check that what he is saying is false. How is not being okay with that "bs"?

He literally has people convinced there's no evidence of human influence on the climate because he counts on them being too fucking stupid to look into it themselves. That's horrific to me and that there are people here who still ironically defend him is mind boggling.

That they are the same people who think their personal opinion on modern games is a universal objective truth isn't surprising. But it is pretty sad.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:19:11 2017 No.3813772

>>3813768
OK,
Number 1. He's baiting at this point please ignore him now

Number 2. Don't bring politics into this

Number 3. Some studies indicate that it's not caused by humans and is natural climate change by earth, some studies say it is by humans, just like some studies say vegan is the healthiest thing ever and other studies say vegan is the unhealthyest thing ever. You're not gonna change anything so just like you let other people believe what they want for vidya, do the same.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:22:18 2017 No.3813778

>>3813765
>So basically expansion packs.
No. Expansion packs are usually standalone updates.
>Just don't buy those games, it's like shitting on the NES because some shitty game was released on it.
Just don't buy the generation defining games that the vast majority of modern gamers play. Good advice. Totally like not buy shitty NES games that nobody played! Good point. I've learned the error of my ways.
>100% completion in games like Metroid and collectathons
You installed the game! Here's your PSN points.
>>3813768
>>3813772
Nice cancer and global warming redirect. Seriously that's actually funny. Cancer is still cancer though.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:27:12 2017 No.3813784

>>3813772
I'm not bringing politics into this, it's an illustration of his lack of intelligent thinking. He is truly convinced that modern games all suck because that's what he personally thinks.

And yes, the earth does have natural cycles which is part of the real problem. We are living in a historically extremely calm period in earth's history and it's in our best interests to do anything possible not to rock the boat. Major climate scientists are in almost universal agreement that human activity is having an impact.

The person who claims to their followers that it's "just weather" and that scientists aren't in agreement can't even be bothered to look up his election numbers. So listening to him on an issue as complex as this is just pure stupidity.

However, unlike "CoD is shit and DLC so modern games suck!" this is something that actually matters. And people's stupidity and ignorance are in prime position to fuck us all over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:30:06 2017 No.3813792 >>3813784 I respect your beliefs.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:34:44 2017 No.3813796

>>3813792
I don't respect your acceptance of lies because you're a simpleton retard.

Seriously though, what's your take? When he says something like "I have the highest incoming numbers of any president since Regan" and is then told that's blatantly false just just dismissed it as "I was told that"

So is this guy you like so much just a blithering idiot? Can he not even remember or check basic things like that? Or did he know what he was saying was untrue and just hoped he wouldn't get called on it?

Which of those do you even think is better? Can you offer some insight into why you would support someone who fucks up that much? It's astounding to me that people like you actually exist so I'm very curious what your thought process is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:35:17 2017 No.3813797 >>3813784 Earth is getting hotter, Video games are getting shitier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:44:01 2017 No.3813812 File: 9 KB, 246x227, 1485561867801.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jesus fucking christ, I had to stop eating because this thread is so salty... People get fucking autistic when they feel the need to defend "muh special klub"

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:44:58 2017 No.3813814 >>3813812 Why would you ever come to vr then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:46:20 2017 No.3813819 >>3813814 Not him but I used to come here to avoid /v/'s stupidity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:46:55 2017 No.3813820 >>3813814 To talk about old video games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:47:23 2017 No.3813821 >>3813812 >salty >"muh special klub" Thanks for being here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:47:41 2017 No.3813824 >>3813819 You took a wrong turn then, this place makes /v/ look like a mensa convention these days.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:54:28 2017 No.3813839

>>3813778
>Just don't buy the generation defining games that the vast majority of modern gamers play.

Exactly. Just because a game (or movie or song or book) is popular doesn't mean you will necessarily like it, and there's nothing wrong with that. I never cared for platformers, but Mario's popularity didn't keep me from playing other SNES games. This is the same situation except outside of the top games there's a lot more variety now than there used to be.

CoD being popular is only bad if you only want to play what's popular. I think that's a short sighted and stupid attitude to have though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:57:29 2017 No.3813847 >>3813839 And ignore all the shit that CoD establishes to be ok? Like the DLC etc. Also not seeing the logic of calling modern games not bad if you have to avoid the games that are the top sellers.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:03:17 2017 No.3813856

>>3813847
>Also not seeing the logic of calling modern games not bad if you have to avoid the games that are the top sellers.

Because if I went with that logic I would also think 8 and 16 bit games are bad because it was the height of popularity for platformers which I find almost all boring.

I'm just saying it would be foolish for me to discount all 8 and 16 bit games because I happened not to like the most popular genre. That's exactly how I feel about modern FPS games. I don't care about them, but that doesn't matter to me because there's already a ton of other stuff to play.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:06:47 2017 No.3813858 >>3813856 You're saying all the top selling games from 8 and 16 bit era are bad?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:11:34 2017 No.3813864

>>3813858
No I am saying the opposite. I am saying my personally not liking them doesn't make them bad. It just makes them games I happened not to like.

Exactly the same as my not liking modern FPS games doesn't make them bad, it just makes them games I happen not to like.

The 8 and 16 bit eras are fundamentally the same as the modern era in that regard. The most popular games don't necessarily appeal to me all that much, but there are still plenty of games from every year that I end up loving so that's what I care about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:14:45 2017 No.3813868 >>3813864 Not making much sense. >The 8 and 16 bit eras are fundamentally the same as the modern era in that regard. Not at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:17:56 2017 No.3813876 >>3813868 It's all there in that post. If you can't even read a couple of simple sentences and understand them in context with each other there's not much else to say. Are you pretending to be stupid at this point? It's surreal.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:24:10 2017 No.3813885

>>3813876
You're just an ignorant retard as I said multiple times. You keep thinking it's my opinion I dislike these games. It's not an opinion.

For example a brand new game like For Honor would be something I like. But I'm not buying it because Ubisoft, season pass, p2p servers, and shit DLC/create gambling everywhere. I don't support cancer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:26:25 2017 No.3813893 >>3813885 >It's not an opinion. You keep telling yourself that, but you're plain wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:27:47 2017 No.3813894 >>3813893 Called logic and comprehension. Two things you clearly lack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:31:12 2017 No.3813902 >>3813894 Nice try, but you're still wrong. Hate things all you want, it doesn't turn your opinion into fact. I can understand how for someone like you that would be hard to understand though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:32:28 2017 No.3813904 >>3813902 Man you're some serious cancer. Any mental gymnastics to support trash like releasing a game broken.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:38:40 2017 No.3813918 >>3813904 Nice buzzword, but that doesn't make what you're saying true. A shitty broken game is still a shitty broken game, but that's not a purely modern phenomenon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:39:07 2017 No.3813920 Thanks for ruining the thread, fags

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:40:27 2017 No.3813924 >>3813920 >implying it wasn't a troll thread from OP's post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:40:39 2017 No.3813925 >>3813918 >A shitty broken game is still a shitty broken game, but that's not a purely modern phenomenon. It is as I said before. You'll defend that game too like that cancer you are. Everything I said is true and there's little opinion involved.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:43:32 2017 No.3813931 >>3813925 Okay you clearly just plain can't read or you're purposefully acting stupid because that's your plan. I should have known better than to expect someone like you to understand something so basic.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:49:37 2017 No.3813940

>>3813931
No you and your kind are just straight cancer. Just retards.There's little to opinion involved in going through logical steps to see modern games are cancer.

We have an agreed upon baseline that shit like DLC, releasing a game broken, preorder shit, etc is bad.

-All the top selling modern games have that.

-Therefore the vast majority of modern games are cancer.

-Modern gaming is cancer.

There's no opinion there in those steps, dumbass.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:54:11 2017 No.3813949
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>>3813263
>Consoles are DEAD. They're on their way out.
By pure sales, "traditional" consoles are doing just fine. Just look at the numbers on picrelated. The 2 big consoles sell about the same if not more as in the previous gen, it's simply that PS4 has way bigger share over XB One. The market stayed about the same since PS2, despite lowering interest from Japan. If one console is dead today, it's Wii U.
Consoles really face no competition from anything. PC? Piracy killed it. TV smart boxes? They're a joke and not suited for gaming.

>Nintendo are the ONLY company making innovative hardware right now.
Biggest-selling Nintendo games are literally the same as their older games. Pokemon? Smash? Zelda? Mario? Mario Kart? Animal Crossing? Are you seriously implying they're innovative? They're all incremental updates, or slight evolutions at best.
The few exceptions only serve the rule, and unsurprisingly, other consoles also have those.

>All Sony and Microsoft are bringing to the table is "muh graficks".
Because that's what sells. High budgets mean high risks. Also, you disregard completely that Sony's 1st party output is very small in comparison. It's mostly 3rd parties that grant them console sales.
Nintendo simply know that they can't compete in that niche. That's why they deliberately went separate ways with everyone. It worked for them with Wii, not so much with Wii U.

> And Sony's next console will be yet another shit-tier PC rig with it's own exclusives.
Yes. Explain how it is bad on its own, please. It will still sell and get all the 3rd party support.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:02:14 2017 No.3813959 [DELETED]

>>3813940
Well given that you don't even understand what the word cancer means it's getting harder and harder to take you seriously.

This is why I brought politics into it. People like you vote for and support idiots who spew random false information and try to pass it off as facts. That's exactly what you're doing here. You don't like modern gaming so you attach a buzzword to it "cancer" and then insist that's simply a fact.

You are a retarded hick. And for all your whining about how terrible everything is now, all my concern is how I am going to spend my limited time on all the great games there are to play.

So stay angry and stupid I guess. Keep raging at the games industry because people exist who like different things from you. I'm going to play some video games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:04:45 2017 No.3813965 >>3813959 >more opinion bs Getting stale, champ.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:06:50 2017 No.3813969 File: 20 KB, 260x320, john_mccain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3813965 I agree. You're pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:08:42 2017 No.3813973 >>3813476 >shilling this hard for a faceless corporation So when the Switch inevitably flops are you going to cry yourself to sleep and wet the bed every night?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:12:51 2017 No.3813982 >>3813969 80/90s politics were better also.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:15:45 2017 No.3813986 >>3813560 >that asshole who is convinced that their notions about the future are objective facts

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:16:30 2017 No.3813989 >>3813982 Nothing was worse than it is now. Trump followers are some next level retards. And that's what people think of when they think Republican now which just makes everything worse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:22:26 2017 No.3814001 >>3813682 Man your autistic ass says cancer like every other sentence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:28:32 2017 No.3814008 >>3813989 You find a way to make every conversation about Trump, don't you? I bet you are fucking insufferable in person.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:30:46 2017 No.3814013 >>3814001 Ha ha then I kept reading and your dumb ass said cancer like 20 more times. Jesus what a dumb faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:31:17 2017 No.3814015 >>3812948 Nintendo doesn't own Pokemon. They partly own it with GameFreaks and Creatures.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:31:52 2017 No.3814016 I'm finding it extraordinarily difficult to hate one of these faggots any less than the other, desu

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:34:27 2017 No.3814019 [DELETED]

>>3814008
Up here in Canada I've literally only met one person who wasn't horrified by what an idiot he is. So when I encounter people who actually support him even now that he's shown he just blatantly lies (or is a literal simpleton) I find it so fascinating I have to point it out.

I mean seriously, what did someone like you think watching that press conference? Or when he talked about all the terrible events in Sweden that not even Sweden knew what he was talking about. How do you actually still support that level of buffonery?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:35:54 2017 No.3814020 >>3814019 >Up here in Canada This explains so much.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:38:29 2017 No.3814026 [DELETED]

>>3814019
Ohh and before you spout the typical /vr/ line about how I'm a commie lib tard, I've voted Conservative in every single election since '93 so you can shove that troll response up your ass.

Actual conservatism in the US is dead in the water these days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:41:25 2017 No.3814031 >>3814019 >>3814026 I detest Trump and think he is a total fraud, you presumptuous moron. I just don't feel the need to bring it up in every conversation I have.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:41:51 2017 No.3814034 [DELETED]

>>3814020
I bet it does, we have an education system. So care to address the actual point. Why do you still support someone who can barely get a couple of sentences out of his mouth without either lying through his teeth or saying something he just plain made up?

How is "that's what I was told" an acceptable response for saying things that are objectively false?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:48:14 2017 No.3814046 [DELETED]

>>3814034
It explains...

1) Why you would get into a sprawling, hours-long argument with an aggressive troll

2) Why you would feel the need to repeatedly shoehorn le Trumpepe (who I'm sure many of us also dislike) and global warming into an autistic non-argument about vidya

3) Why you would feel the need to announce that you're a fucking LEAF

4) Why you would assume that anybody who is criticizing you (or even responding) is the same person

I'll be honest, at the start of this thing, I thought the other guy was in the wrong, as he represents a lot of what I find cancerous and terrible about this board. The latter part of that might still hold true, but you yourself are a cancerous, Canadian vagina, and that's ultimately much worse.

Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:48:48 2017 No.3814047 >>3814034 Are you seriously stupid enough to try and reason with a Trump supporter? It's just going to be an endless stream of "alternative facts", ad hominem and insults. And what the fuck does it have to do with retro gaming? Take a fucking walk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:52:08 2017 No.3814050 Gas all /v/ermin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:54:14 2017 No.3814054 >>3814026 Wow so you were old enough to vote in 1993 yet you're on 4chan writing these college freshmen tier screeds apropos of nothing? Holy fuck dude you must be the biggest faggot in Canada.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:04:19 2017 No.3814170 If there were any justice in this word Cancertard and Canuckcuck would end up on a deserted island together for the rest of their pointless lives.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:10:20 2017 No.3814181 [DELETED]

>>3814047
I know I shouldn't but it's just too funny not to. It's amazing that there are still people still dumb enough to take him seriously and even though it's shooting fish in a barrel, making fun of them is just too good.

>>3814054
>apropos of nothing

lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:25:14 2017 No.3814202 >>3814181 It's funny that someone with your obvious deficiency of intellect enjoys teasing people who are even stupider than you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:59:10 2017 No.3814261 >>3813796 Stop shoehorning politics into a god damn retro videogame board go to /pol/ for that

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:25:50 2017 No.3814327

>>3813940
>We have an agreed upon baseline that shit like DLC, releasing a game broken, preorder shit, etc is bad.

We have no agreement on that though. Only releasing broken games is actually bad and that's always been bad. You not liking DLC doesn't make it universally bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:27:34 2017 No.3814329 >>3813258 That's correct though. Jumping flash has doujin roots on the x68000. They were years ahead of the curve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:34:21 2017 No.3814339 >>3813709 >j-just wait for us guys! >o-our 18 fps easy games are going to be really awesome, honest!

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:20:45 2017 No.3814435

>>3812964
They HAD a nice warchest due to the Wii and DS sales, but shortly after that was publicaly stated and known as the norm so posts like yours can exist, there was other articles released that they're down to 2B or so due to reinvesting money into things like a new R&D building and other things.

Have to spend money to make money, as they say.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:48:54 2017 No.3814486

>>3814339
>The game was highly acclaimed by the gaming media and sold over eight million copies worldwide, making it the third-best-selling Nintendo 64 game. It also received multiple year-end awards, including the BAFTA Interactive Entertainment Games Award, and four awards from the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences: Console Action Game of the Year, Console Game of the Year, Interactive Title of the Year, and Outstanding Achievement in Software Engineering.

>Retrospectively, GoldenEye 007 is considered an important game in the history of first-person shooters for demonstrating the viability of game consoles as platforms for the genre, and for signalling a transition from the then-standard Doom-like approach to a more realistic style. It pioneered features such as atmospheric single-player missions, stealth elements, and a console multiplayer deathmatch mode. The game is frequently cited as one of the greatest video games of all time.

Mmm, yes.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:06:14 2017 No.3814516

>>3814435

The warchest fluctuates, but at minimum they always have some x billions of dollars. Also I checked vgchartz and the 3DS is the highest selling console this generation which sells at a profit. Combine that with their pokemon sales and all in all they actually are having a successful console generation this gen even with the WiiU bombing like it has.

Nintendo STILL has the handheld market completely cornered, but bizarrely the Switch looks like a console which will compete with Nintendo's own handheld, which seems like a good way to cannibalize your own monopoly.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:12:23 2017 No.3814526

>>3813474
i'm actually glad to hear it was good for that long, i stopped reading game mags altogether around the time of the ps2 release in 2000.
the whole squad was great though, even the art team had a ton of personality. i just looked up eugene wang's linkedin and he's still working around here.

the only time i've ever been "starstruck" in my life was when i was about 13 years old, getting off the escalator on my way to the EB in the mall and having 5 or 6 of the PSM guys walk past me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:20:12 2017 No.3814628 >>3812247 woah thats like arguing with /vr/ The questions are awesome and even more awesome that someone is answering them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:28:13 2017 No.3814637 >>3813258 How stupid do you have to be to take issue with this? Jumping Flash was made before anyone knew what a 3D platformer even was, they were making everything up as they went and it still holds up as a really good game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 23:11:10 2017 No.3814959 >>3812214 More like the Nintendo six to four good exclusives

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 23:16:35 2017 No.3814967 >>3813536 Not comparable because handheld and console experiences are different. Most handheld games are only bearable for playing 20 minutes to an hour at a time while console game session are designed to be 1-2 hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 23:53:27 2017 No.3815017 Fun read, anyone know where I can get more retro mags? I used to read them all the time back when.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 23:58:23 2017 No.3815023 >>3815017 retromags.com https://archive.org/details/gamemagazines&tab=about

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 23:59:27 2017 No.3815024 >>3815023 Thanks mate

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 22 12:01:52 2017 No.3815529 >>3814327 So you support map packs?

Anonymous Wed Feb 22 16:04:24 2017 No.3815889

>>3813949
>By pure sales, "traditional" consoles are doing just fine. Consoles really face no competition from anything. PC? Piracy killed it. TV smart boxes They're a joke and not suited for gaming.
I hate to break it to you, but you're not going to get a PlayStation 7, 8 or 9. Consoles are going away. Or more accurately; the way we play games is going to evolve.
>Biggest-selling Nintendo games are literally the same as their older games. Pokemon? Smash? Zelda? Mario? Mario Kart? Animal Crossing? Are you seriously implying they're innovative? They're all incremental updates, or slight evolutions at best.
I said Nintendo are the only company making innovative HARDWARE. I didn't even mention software.
>Because that's what sells.
No, GAMES are what sell hardware. Power and performance are just a selling point.
> Explain how it is bad on its own, please. It will still sell and get all the 3rd party support.
It's not 'bad'. It's just fucking boring and it stagnates the industry. And that 3rd party support will be the same on PC. So what's so unique about that?

>3815024
Also check outhttp://www.outofprintarchive.com/magazine_catalogue_UK.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 22 16:42:10 2017 No.3815954 File: 25 KB, 249x400, Jumpingflash_boxart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3813382 Dat soundtrack tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5J24Npm2vQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHrk2YSoobE

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 06:46:21 2017 No.3817180 >>3812214 kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 06:46:41 2017 No.3817182 >>3812214 Kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 08:47:02 2017 No.3817367 >>3815529 I though I was clear about that. Yes I do wholeheartedly, the same with DLC. That's not to say you have to agree with me, but understand that your opinion is really that, your opinion. It's not universal

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 08:57:17 2017 No.3817376
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>>3815889
>It's not 'bad'. It's just fucking boring and it stagnates the industry.

How is it "fucking boring"?

Personally I don't care if the traditional console goes away or changes so long as we keep getting amazing games and I see no sign of that changing. I know it's hip and cool around here to say modern gaming sucks because we're here to talk about old games, but as much as I loved and still love many of the games of my youth, I think gaming in general just keeps getting better and better.

I should note though I've never been a console exclusive gamer. Always played both PC and consoles a lot so the two blending or merging doesn't bother me at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 09:16:27 2017 No.3817409 >>3812240 >>3812241 Funny how all those five complaints can still fit the Nintendo Switch and every consoled released after the N64 nintendo never learns

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 09:34:05 2017 No.3817435 >>3813709 >The speed of silicon cartridge >sold as a novelty

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 09:37:09 2017 No.3817440 >>3817435 whats the matter shithead afraid that the POWER of switch cartridges will blow your silly console away??? YOU'RE TOO CD SLOW

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 09:41:20 2017 No.3817448 >>3817409 The Gamecube wasn't out of date. The Wii wasn't too safe, so no. I'd argue the Switch is neither too.

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 09:43:47 2017 No.3817454

>>3817448
>The Wii wasn't too safe
the games were as safe as they could be, that was the selling point of the console even

>switch not safe
>so safe that its made with the 3DS public in mind to keep it even safer
>32gb max storage and cartridges in 2007 not out of date

nah

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 09:56:18 2017 No.3817486

>>3817409
My biggest worry with Nintendo is that they seem to have forgotten how to code for their own systems. Not being able to make SNES roms run on regular 3DS is embarrassing and the new Pokemon game cut all the 3D but still runs choppy as fuck at about 15fps when the models aren't even impressive.

I look at that mess compared to what Capcom is squeezing out of it with MHX and XX and it's crazy. They make some great games, but the big N seriously needs some new staff to show them how to make full use of the hardware they put out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 09:57:19 2017 No.3817491 >>3817454 >the games were as safe as they could be, that was the selling point of the console even How so?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 10:06:48 2017 No.3817509 >>3812240 Oh noes! The C-word!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 10:09:24 2017 No.3817515 >>3817367 Not my opinion. Most people don't support that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 10:11:45 2017 No.3817520 >>3817454 You don't recall how every business analyst in 2006 said it was financial suicide to release a console that wasn't HD and with non-traditional controls?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 10:50:36 2017 No.3817562 >>3817515 Even if it is "most people" which I don't think you're correct on it still doesn't make it not an opinion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 10:58:07 2017 No.3817573 >>3813601 An iPad mini 4 is just $99 more expensive than the switch, and at least it has a web browser.

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 11:00:46 2017 No.3817575

>>3817454
Nigga, carts are the future.

CDs were good back in the day because they offered much larger storage sizes and were cheaper than masked ROMs.

However, nowadays solid state storage is cheap as fuck and a thousand times faster than a wimpy DVD/Bluray drive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 12:06:11 2017 No.3817657 >>3817409 >nintendo never learns Yet they keep doing well in the market...

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 12:18:49 2017 No.3817672 >>3817562 See the CoD sales on PC vs console. You kids really need to learn what an opinion is. But cancer like you never will.

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 12:30:42 2017 No.3817680

>>3817672
>kids
>cancer
All you do throw out the same buzzwords over and over as if it will suddenly make them mean something this time. You have an opinion and that's just fine, but trying to say your opinion is a universal fact is just plain ridiculous.

Console vs PC sales is completely irrelevant.

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 12:35:32 2017 No.3817689

>>3817680
They are perfect descriptors for you. The problem with arguing this shit is there barely an argument to begin with. At best you have "well I like the game anyway so I don't care about the shit practices the devs did". There's no opinion in it other than you liking the games and supporting the cancer.

>Console vs PC sales is completely irrelevant.
That's bs right there because CoD sold very well on PC until they started with this shit DLC and releasing broken games. Among other things.

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 12:42:02 2017 No.3817696

>>3817689
>At best you have "well I like the game anyway so I don't care about the shit practices the devs did".

No it's actually, I like the game and I like most of the practices the company did with it. All you do is keep saying "cancer cancer cancer" like that means anything at all. You don't have to agree with me, but please at least try to speak like a human and not this meaningless drivel.

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 12:53:39 2017 No.3817712
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>>3812904
>being this much poisoned by console wars

kek, I love seeing autists like you.
Nintendo will die, but not in your lifetime!

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 12:59:18 2017 No.3817716

>>3817712
Until /vr/ I thought console wars were the exclusive domain of the children of poor parents. Even in the 8 and 16 bit days I worked to buy both consoles because they all had cool games on them and I just like playing games. Clearly there's more at work, but it's all surreal to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 13:19:19 2017 No.3817740 >>3817696 Thanks for proving me point.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 13:32:22 2017 No.3817753 >>3817740 >Thanks for proving me point. And thank you for proving mine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 13:39:06 2017 No.3817776 >>3817753 Is the goal to just shitpost or?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 14:19:02 2017 No.3817850 This thread contains an autistic cunt who is incapable of accepting other peoples opinions. See if you can guess who it is! Seriously nigga, seek fucking help. Not even joking.

Anonymous Thu Feb 23 15:37:53 2017 No.3818026

>>3817776
The "goal" as such as there is one is to try and get you to stop wagoning around your opinions like they're objective truth. You say we're all agreed DLC etc is cancer (whatever the fuck that really means) and modern gaming sucks. I say as a life long gamer I think things are great and you call me cancer more. But I'm the one that's shitposting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 15:49:50 2017 No.3818068 >>3818026 Made my argument and I'm just repeating myself. Nothing left. You're cancer and will be cancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 16:24:23 2017 No.3818141 File: 559 KB, 1659x1647, 94.5 - Edge Supplement - Project Reality Overview.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 16:26:37 2017 No.3818148 >>3818068 >You're cancer and will be cancer. This is why I compare you to a Trump supporter. No intelligent thought or argument, just repetition over and over that any viewpoint other than yours is basically evil. You're as stupid as they are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 17:24:35 2017 No.3818282 >>3818068 >You're cancer and will be cancer. I still say this is no real argument and you thinking your opinion is fact is pathetic. Hollow insults and rhetoric in place of discussion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 21:02:58 2017 No.3818704 >>3812889 Despite them actually listening to fans and not only bringing back 3D Mario again to sandbox, but also making a new Zelda game based on Zelda 1?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 22:07:59 2017 No.3818821 >>3817657 >Yet they keep doing well in the hanheld market wheres no competition because it doesnt enough give profit... FTFY

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 22:09:22 2017 No.3818828 >>3818821 >it doesnt enough give profit me tarzan you jane

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 18:19:46 2017 No.3820393 >>3818821 >doing well in a market >doesn't give enough profit So are they doing well or not? If they're doing well in a market then clearly there is profit to be found its just that apparently they have a monopoly on it.

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 19:11:51 2017 No.3820510

>>3820393

Nintendo still makes money, but compared to the other 2 companies is the one who makes the less. No one can deny that. As for the handheld market, Sony after the "disaster" of the vita (even if outsold the WiiU and is doing great in Japan) doubt they will ever make another portable. And Microsoft doesnt even bothered to make one. I guess they think trying to take over Nintendo at this point is useless, specially with the tablet/phone market growing so fast.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 19:19:16 2017 No.3820529 File: 24 KB, 225x300, s-l300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >single most important publication in the history of game magazines I dunno, I think the one where they announced the GOTC is more important.

Anonymous Fri Feb 24 21:26:20 2017 No.3820773

>>3820510

Even if they are making less money total having a market cornered is a great way to ensure longevity. I could see Nintendo somehow becoming an exclusive handheld company sometime in the future, which funny enough looks vaguely like what they are doing with their newest console simultaneously being a handheld system.

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