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What was the best year for video games?

My vote goes to 1983. The ZX Spectrum was hitting its stride with the beginnings of a great library, the C64 was hitting British shores with a bang, and arcade games like Star Wars and Tapper were released. It was a great year. 1994 was also great with games like Super Metroid, Doom II, Sonic 3, Jazz Jackrabbit, and Killer Instinct being released, as well as the Sega 32X and, in Japan, the Saturn. What do you think, /vr/?

>> No.3786693

1998, 2001 or 2004. No other years can compare to those three.

>> No.3786696

>>3786693
1983 and 1994 were better.

>> No.3786702

>>3786696

Nah

>> No.3786708

>>3786702
Yah

>> No.3786756

>>3786687
>ZX Spectrum
>a great library
Righto mate.

>> No.3786847

>>3786756
It's undeniable faggot

>> No.3786878

>>3786693
I agree with 1998, even if none of the games released in those years are my favourites.

>> No.3786963

1982, 1987 ,1992, 1993, 1998, 1999, 2001

>> No.3786984
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>>3786687
1993: daytona usa, super street fighter II, virtua fighter, samurai spirits, mortal kombat II, cadillacs & dinosaurs, samurai aces, nba jam etc etc

1993 really felt exciting because the whole industry actually started innovating and new tech was arriving everywhere. The neo geo started to have really cool games. Capcom released the cpsII system with qsound and everyone including CNN was like mortaaaaaal kombaaaaaaat.
What a year...

>> No.3786991

>>3786984
How could you forget Aladdin, Sam and Max, Day of the Tenticle, Myst and NBA Jam?

Unforgivable you forgot Doom.

>> No.3786994

1996: Kakyuusei, YU-NO, Kichikuou Rance, Kizuato, Pia Carrot, Sakura Taisen

>> No.3786996

>>3786984
I'd second 1993, if for no other reason than it seemed like 3/4 off the games I used on own on snes came out that year

>> No.3787026

>>3786687
I'm a Sega kid and all but this pic is ridiculous, pretty much reverse Nintendrone tier which goes right along with this Australia-kun leaning post. Good for /vr/ for not being derailed from the beginning

>>3786878
>>3786693
>>3786963
>1998
I'm inclined to say this myself. If I could live one year over and over again it would probably be 1998 and the video game releases were certainly a part of it.

>> No.3787057

>>3787026
I don't understand the problem with the chart. Which consoles were better?

>> No.3787060

>>3786687
>two Xbones
>implying Xbone has a quality anything
>implying the Wii U didn't win in terms of quality
>you

>> No.3787062

>>3787057
The NES is much better than the Master System. Phantasy Star alone isn't enough to carry it. Then at the other end I have a hard time thinking of a single reason to own an Xbox One.

>> No.3787093
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3787093

>Dreamcast
>Winner of Anything
I own one and is my less used console. The controller is really shitty, the exclusives aren't that good and it's useless if you can play Arcade games or ports in other platforms.

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>>3787093
>Controller is shitty
>Ports on other platforms

>> No.3787115
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>>3787104
>I like uncomfortable shit
>I'm 12 and what is Sonic Adventure 2 Battle?

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>>3787104
>I like uncomfortable shit
>I'm 12 and what is Phantasy Star Online and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle on Game Cube?

>> No.3787126

>>3787057
NES beat out SMS in every way. SNES beat out Genesis toward the end of the generation and has more memorable long term games, since the large library of sports games on Genesis are now irrelevant. PSX, PS2, and PS4 won their respective generations, although an argument could be made that N64 produced more classics that you'd want to revisit today.

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>>3786687
>this level of denial

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>>3787115
>>3787119
>Dreamcast controller is uncomfortable
>Playing Naomi ports when you can easily play them native

>> No.3787397

>>3787026
>I'm a Sega kid and all but this pic is ridiculous
It's bait. But Xbox 360 did win seventh gen though.

>> No.3787435

>>3787026
>I'm a Sega kid

bullshit prove it. OPs pic is 100% dead on

>> No.3787454

>>3786687
Jesus Christ every one of those is wrong

>master system
Never even fucking saw one irl until I saw one in the bargain bin of a game store in a large city. NES is the obvious and correct answer.

>Genesis
Pretty good, but not better than snes by any objective metric

>Saturn
See Master System

>Dreamcast
Didn't really have a generation that it fit into. You're nuts if you think it is better than the ps2 in any capacity other than maybe arcade ports (and that's a big maybe)

>xbox360
Literally the exact same thing as the ps3 so I can see you giving this one the edge if you like Halo or something. It doesn't have Demons Souls though so no dice for me

>Xbox one
>2017
>owning a current gen system
Contemporary consoles are just budget build pc's with proprietary front ends and controllers. An actual desktop pc with a decent graphics card in it is better in every way.

>> No.3787496

>>3787454
>Contemporary consoles are just budget build pc's with proprietary front ends and controllers. An actual desktop pc with a decent graphics card in it is better in every way.
PS4 has Nioh_______

>> No.3787536

>>3787397
Nah, the Wii did, if you factor in both exclusives and amount of sales.

>> No.3787542

>>3786687

this pic is the worst bait I've ever seen

and yes I read your filename

>> No.3787547

>>3787435
how pray tell would you like me to prove it? Post a pic of my Model 1 stack next to my X'Eye on top of a thousand dollars worth of Saturn games? Still wouldn't prove what I was doing when I was a kid but Genesis released earlier and had consistently lower priced games. I did get an SNES in 1990 but I spent way more total time with Genesis and was firmly on the Genesis side of console war stuff.

>> No.3788103

>>3787062
>>3787126
So you just have a different opinion. I think the Master System, Mega Drive, Saturn, Dreamcast, Xbox 360, and Xbox One were better. Unless you have some substantial reasoning I don't see why you object. I also don't think Phantasy Star is even a top 20 game on the MS.

>> No.3788147

>>3788103
So you're baiting then. I'm always happy to debate the relative strengths and weaknesses of Genesis, Saturn and Dreamcast but Master System is a side dish even with FM. NES is in a whole different league but at least Master System has lots of unique games worth playing. I'd be curious to hear a single good reason to own an Xbox One.

>> No.3788352

>>3788147
What do you have against the Master System? You just sound like a NES fanboy.
Xbone plays the best games of the current and former generation, supports external storage, has 4k streaming, the best controller by far, and the best online store.

>> No.3788361

>>3786687

>Dreamcast won so hard that it failed

Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel special little snowflake

>> No.3788369

>>3786687
saturn may have won my heart but it is nowhere near as good as the ps1's library and not to mention the saturn's third party games were laughable at best, especially in the us

>> No.3788370

>>3788361
Popularity does not necessarily equate to quality.

>> No.3788372

>>3788369
Who cares about the US? That's the market where the bloody N64 was the second best seller.

>> No.3788380

>>3786687
I only disagree with the xbox one.
But I have no current gen console, so I can't compare.

>> No.3788394

>>3788372
Every market but Japan was the one where the N64 was the second best seller.

Weeb.

>> No.3788402

>>3788394
Saturn sold equally to the N64 in Europe.

>> No.3788405
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>>3788361
Man, that pic is a joke.
>Master "Only Phantasy Star is good" System
>Shitty Add-ons, farts and basically dead in 1995: the console
>Weebshit machine
>Port, ports, ports, some shitty exclusives and PS2's little bitch
>No good exclusives
>No good exclusives part 2
This guy must be a janitor or something to like this stinky trash.


>Inb4 the Nintendo Strawman
>The Sony Strawman
>The "You are jealous" argument.
>Muh Sega
>Muh M$

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>>3788402
It did not. Saturn also sold particularly badly in Australia, while the N64 had USA-tier performance there.

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>>3788409

>> No.3788415

>>3788405
>calls others weebs
>call Phantasy Star good
I think you're just recycling old arguments you've heard, kid.

>> No.3788417

>>3788414
Those figures are totally wrong. The Saturn sold over 6 million in Japan by 1996. What is the cutoff here?

>> No.3788420

>>3788417
Even if the figures are not fully accurate, there's no margin of error in the world that would account for the 600% N64 sales advantage in Europe.

>> No.3788426

1985
1991

>> No.3788431

>>3788420
Except that they give the N64 five more years than the Saturn when we all know that consoles sell well later in life in Europe.

>> No.3788437

>>3788431
No matter how you skew it, Saturn didn't sell those additional 5 million consoles in Europe.

>> No.3788440

>>3788426
1985 was alright. Hang On and Space Harrier and Gauntlet were released that year, right?

>> No.3788443

>>3788415
Forgot the "If he doesn't agree with me, he is a kid" argument.

But if you think that Phantasy Star has the same level of weebcancer, who am I to disagree. It's your, opinion bro.

>> No.3788452

>>3788437
They sold very close to that. Estimates say it sold 2 million in the US, and 10 million in Japan. That leaves 5 million of the total estimated 17.

>> No.3788484

>>3786687
1983 - The Famicom was finally released in Japan.
1985 - The birthyear of Super Mario Bros., but not the Mario franchise in general, the Famicom finally came stateside as the NES and saved video games from the crash of 1983.
1986 - The birthyear of The Legend of Zelda and Dragon Quest.
1987 - The birthyear of Final Fantasy.
1989 - The Game Boy started it's long legacy, Dragon Quest went stateside as Dragon Warrior.
1990 - The savior of gaming: the Super Famicom, came out in Japan, Final Fantasy was introduced stateside for the first time.
1991 - Super Famicom finally came out stateside as the Super NES, A Link to the Past, one of the greatest Zelda classics, came out.
1995 - The year of RPGs, classics such as Chrono Trigger, Tactics Ogre, Front Mission, Tales of Phantasia, Terranigma and Earthbound were released.
1997 - One of the greatest RPGs of all time: Final Fantasy VII, was released.
1998 - Another classic RPG came out: Xenogears, Ocarina of Time was released, became one of the greatest games of all time.

>> No.3788485

>>3788452
>Sega Saturn
>estimated 17 million sales
wahahahaha

>> No.3788502

>>3788485
That's the official estimate.
>>3788484
There was no crash in 1983, unless you are referring to only the US home console market and you're calling a downturn a crash.

>> No.3788507

>>3788502
Yes, the home console market crash of 1983.

>> No.3788517

>>3788502
>That's the official estimate.
[citation required]

>> No.3788524

>>3788507
The American home console market downturn.

>> No.3788526

>>3786847
Nothing produced in PAL land has ever been worth playing. And learn how to brush your teeth

>> No.3788532

>>3788526
Learn to universal healthcare.

>> No.3788548

>>3788517
Evans, David S.; Hagiu, Andrei; Schmalensee, Richard (2006). Invisible engines: how software platforms drive innovation and transform industries ([Online-Ausg.] ed.). Cambridge (Mass.): MIT Press. p. 131. ISBN 0262050854. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5Wx6-uv-DSkC&pg=PA131.. Retrieved 31 January 2012. (with reference to Table 2: Worldwide Video Game Console Annual Shipment History - 1989-1998. Video Game Consoles: Sony, Nintendo and Sega Brace for Microsoft Challenge. In-Stat (NPD Group) (December 2000). Archived from the original on 2001-05-01. Retrieved on 31 January 2012.)

>> No.3788561

>>3787547
>Post a pic of my Model 1 stack next to my X'Eye on top of a thousand dollars worth of Saturn games?

yeah go ahead, i fucking dare you

>> No.3788562

>>3788548
It's funny how when I do a Google search for the source cited by your source, the only thing that comes up is your source.

It really makes you think.

>> No.3788616

>>3788562
Google is shit and you shiuldn't use it.

>> No.3789456

>>3788103
Saying that you like system A over B is your own personal preference. But if you're going to claim a certain system "won" a generation of gaming consoles, you'll need more objective supporting arguments than "that's like, your opinion, man."

>> No.3789464

>>3788507
>>3788524
The video game crash is something that's blown out of proportion to make Nintendo's success with the NES more important than it actually was.

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>>3787536
The Wii was just a sixth gen console that came out during seventh gen. It's an overclocked GameCube with waggle gimmick.

>> No.3789502

>>3787397
IBM won seventh gen and AMD has already won the current.

>> No.3789507

>>3789470
>tfw nintendo knows there is a wall made of silicon looming beyond 9th gen
moore's law's a bitch, eh lads

>> No.3789516

>>3787026
I'm a Sega Kidd and I approve this message >>3786687

>> No.3789525

>>3787093
Dreamcast is consistently ranked in the top five systems ever produced, right along with the likes of NES
>but muh better ports!

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>>3788561
>yfw

>> No.3789810

>1998

OoT
MGS
FFT
Half Life
Banjo Kazooie
Oddworld Abe's Exodus
Xenogears
Baldur's Gate
Fallout 2
Parasite Eve
Grim Fandango
Panzer Dragon Saga
Pokemon Red/Blue
Resident Evil 2
Unreal
Gran Turismo
Thief
Starcraft
Suikoden 2
Sonic Adventure
Spyro
F-Zero X

>> No.3789818

Here's your (you)
Made me fucking reply.

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>>3789810
That hit me in the feels