How would you save the Metroid franchise?

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Anonymous Fri Jan 13 13:45:28 2017 No.3735648 [Reply] [Original]

How would you save the Metroid franchise?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 13:47:39 2017 No.3735652 Wrong board m8. Cheers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 14:10:03 2017 No.3735678 Making a game like Super Metroid, but >>3735652 is right

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 14:11:34 2017 No.3735681 >>3735648 Take the Super Metroid engine, polish it to a mirror sheen, take Samus' sprite and make it a series of components for flawless animation, and put it on Steam with extensive creation tools.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 14:24:01 2017 No.3735701 Can someone please explain to me THE BABY meme

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 14:25:09 2017 No.3735704 >>3735701 Go play Other M, it'll become self evident

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 14:40:48 2017 No.3735726

>>3735648
Here's my humble opinion: I don't know if they can make it.

You could take Metroid away from Western devs and make a 2D Metroid everyone has been praying for for years. This might even work if they allocate their GOOD staff to it. I'd gladly take something made by Fusion/Zero Mission team too.

But I'm almost sure they'd still fuck it up. Nintendo are their own worst enemy. They still preach their dogma of family-friendly casual fun, and they have stifled the creativity in their own franchises long ago. If they made a 2D Metroid in Iwata times, they'd make Metroid Returns or New Super Metroid U and call it a day.

But it's only half the problem. I hate that word, but without its atmosphere Metroid is just half a game it used to be. For me, either it returns to its Alien roots, where it's you against the labyrinth, or fuck this game.

I know only one thing for sure. They pushed themselves into the corner with FPS Metroid. FPS means they will depend on the West to make it, and they haven't had good enough hardware to compete with other Western FPS games since Wii. If they wanted an FPS game, they shouldn't have sacrificed Metroid for it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 14:52:36 2017 No.3735746

At this point in time, is safe to say that the metroid franchise is dead as we know it.

Your best chance is for a reboot of the franchise, given that the remaining fanbase is small, and the brand name doesn't have the strength and public presence it once had. So the reboot might be the only way forward.

Even the, that likely won't happen, as nintendo is very risk averse now.

I'll just be the Mario _________ games, and zelda as a AAA title.

Mario must die, if any other nintendo franchises were to live.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 14:58:19 2017 No.3735759 >>3735704 >Go play Other M That's terrible advice anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:00:30 2017 No.3735761 >>3735726 This post almost made me think I was on /v/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:01:52 2017 No.3735762 >>3735761 this whole thread in general, if you ask me

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:07:53 2017 No.3735768 Is Samus a slut?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:09:22 2017 No.3735773 I only like Super and Metroid Fusion 1 and 2 are too shitty and old Am I a pleb

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:13:12 2017 No.3735778 Metroid is dead now along with nintendo,thats why we are on /vr/ because games arent good anymore.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:15:07 2017 No.3735781

>>3735761

He is mostly right. You can see in the current presentation of the switch, that nintendo still wants to tap in the family friendly, casual, over socialized gaming market. It was clear from the very first game offering.

They seem to no have realized that this market is gone, forever. The wii was launched on very different circumstances, and the can't just repeat the same trick.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:17:38 2017 No.3735783 >>3735768 We really are on /v/, aren't we?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:18:40 2017 No.3735784 >>3735778 I'm on /vr/ because I like video games and some of them are old, speak for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:38:19 2017 No.3735812 Just bring out a sequel. Super Metroid 2 - Cant be that hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:41:26 2017 No.3735818 File: 4 KB, 512x446, Bikinisupermetroid.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3735648 Make Super Metroid 2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:50:29 2017 No.3735827 are you niggas aware that we are going to get a new metroid game LITERALLY TOMORROW?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 16:02:24 2017 No.3735851 >>3735781 There were only 2 games like that though for the reveal. Most of them were very traditional types of games

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 16:09:35 2017 No.3735869 Give the NuDOOM treatment for Prime and hire retro to do a 2dgame Or give a shitload of money to nintendo sell the rights to someone capable

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 16:11:31 2017 No.3735872 >>3735827 Whatchu talkin' bout?

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 16:13:40 2017 No.3735878

>>3735726

nintendo itself sis strictly buttfucken enough to keep using the Old Kyoto traditions when someone goes there to talk with the board

This is why Square jumped off the boar when they wanted to improve FF and nintendo gave them a big NO due to the shit limitations of the n64 and later GC

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 16:18:07 2017 No.3735884

>>3735648
That depends, do you want a 2d Metroid or 3d Metroid?
>>3735681
>Take the Super Metroid engine
Only a few words in and it's obvious your idea is complete shit
>>3735726
This, Nintendo makes way too much casualized baby shit now. It's hard to imagine Nintendo not fucking it up by making it on-rails or something.
>>3735746
>and the brand name doesn't have the strength and public presence it once had
I'm sure it still has plenty of recognition, even if it's not quite as much as it had in it's heyday.
>>3735773
Go play Zero Mission

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 17:05:31 2017 No.3735954 That one fangame that got DMCA'd was great, but Nintendo only DMCA'd it because they were butthurt that some nobody shitter made a better Metroid than they've made in over a decade.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 17:13:04 2017 No.3735974 >>3735648 Literally just make a new Metroid game. Not a spinoff but an honest to god Metroid, with modern tech (for Nintendo at least.) That's all they have to do, make one.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 17:28:03 2017 No.3735993

Why would they bother making a new game if the supposed "fans" are just going to bitch and moan that it's not a rehash of Super Metroid? And those same "fans" would then bitch and moan when a new game came out because it was a rehash of Super Metroid, despite having been asking for exactly that.

Super Metroid is already on the Virtual Console, and still being bought by people. Nintendo doesn't see the point in making a new one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 17:30:22 2017 No.3735997 >>3735993 Prime's pretty popular m8

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 17:32:52 2017 No.3736001 >>3735993 Because Nintendo has the chance to gain new fans instead of just letting everyone fall for the "Super Metroid is the best" meme

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 17:52:07 2017 No.3736021

The only way to save metroid is to change up the formula.
Maybe instead of a side scrolling shooter, turn it into a soccer type game or something? And instead of boring Samus, just use some generic robot looking folks.

There. I just saved the franchise.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 17:53:23 2017 No.3736024 >>3736021 I thought you were serious for an embarrassingly large percentage of your post before I realized

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:08:46 2017 No.3736047 >>3735869 >turn metroid into doom :^) The might just be the most outfuckingraging thing i've heard on this board. Fuck. If bait, 10/10 for you.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:11:32 2017 No.3736051

>>3735648
There's no reason to continue milking Metroid. It had reached its logical conclusion with Super, and for when you get bored of it, there are several mods of it available to play. Same with how F-Zero reached its peak with X, and Star Fox with 64, and Donkey Kong with DKC.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:15:56 2017 No.3736062 >>3736051 >F-Zero reached its peak with X This is an unpopular opinion. I am curious to hear to elaborate on it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:16:41 2017 No.3736064

>>3735884
It does not have recognition at all. Ask the average player of the overarching genre (kids that play Star Citizen and edgy Doom games) if he knows anything about or have played a Metroid game. They don't. Having "heard about it" doesn't count.

>>3735993
The bitching of fans is mostly justified. Try being in their position. After long periods of silence, Other M shat all over the franchise staples. Federation Force just borrows the Metroid name.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:18:42 2017 No.3736070 >>3736051 I can accept this argument if you apply it to 95% of all modern gaming jewchises as well. Will you? If not, fuck off.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:21:20 2017 No.3736075
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>>3736047

its not a bait anon, hes telling the truth.

i saw the most shiite nintendists and metroidfags all over the place praising NuDoom for being the 1st and real metroid prime game in years, even if is a doom game, its a game that took a lot from Prime for inspiration

WHICH IS ironical since Romero, Tom hall, Carmack said once that one of the inspirations for dooms atmosphere and the doomguy's earlier concepts were taken from Metroid series

and the praetor suit on NuDoom look a LOT with the Varia Suit mixed with the Classic Doomguy armor

as for the 2D game, id be glad if they took AM2R and SM as inspirations for a new game, but seeing how assholes in kyoto cares only about Mario and zelda...

its pretty much safe to say that metroid franchise is dead until they find someone who can do it right, and seeing how Fed Shitforce took a lot of flak from everyone, even the japanese fanbois, it will take a LOOONG time

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:22:32 2017 No.3736076 No dialogue, tell the story by showing the biggest bits in the beginning, middle, and end, and then all the building blocks of the story are told through scanning logs and runes like in Metroid Prime. I think that could work in both 2D and 3D.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:25:21 2017 No.3736084

>>3736047
If it had to rip off any FPS might as well rip off Unreal. Huge levels with a bunch of shit to find while exploring, excellent atmosphere, a wide range of movement options (although a good chunk of movement options only appeared in the UT games)
>>3736051
>It had reached its logical conclusion with Super
>Same with how F-Zero reached its peak with X
>>3736064
Brand recognition doesn't just consist of people who played the games, and having "heard about it" does count. Do you even know what the term brand recognition means or are you just saying random words that sound like they would fit.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:25:49 2017 No.3736086

>>3736062
I know most people prefer GX, but I think X has greater controls (e.g. the ramming is mapped to two buttons as opposed to one), more interesting content (like the X track), and sweeter artwork and music. The only thing that GX is better at is graphics, though some of the courses have a rather weird style, and the 'sense of speed'. Anyway, both GX and X are very good, but X just has better design overall.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:30:13 2017 No.3736101 >>3736086 AX though

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:32:05 2017 No.3736105 >>3736075 >its a game that took a lot from Prime for inspiration Gameplay wise? That's a complete crock of shit. NuDoom's main inspirations were Painkiller and previous Doom games.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:36:29 2017 No.3736116

>>3736075

I'll be honest here and take a step back, and admit that my gameplay experience with the new Doom was limited. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions.

With that said, the moments I've played were filled with over the top, gratuitous violence. Sure it's lots of fun when you're 12, but if you're old and jaded like me, at some point you begin to question the point of it, and when you can't find any, it gets old very fast. I'm not even trying to be a moralfag or sage guy here.

If they wanted to be Metroid like, I'd say they failed. Nowhere near the level of immersion, with that atmosphere, with that majestic synthwave music, and the narrative on a "self-service" basis. The balance between the calm investigative moments and action is unmatched in my opinion.

Doom satanism references don't add at all, just makes me cringe hard, and shit constantly screaming, exploding and splashing in your face, as I said gets old fast.

And about finding the right people, just get retro to do it. Worked then, can work now.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:45:20 2017 No.3736131

>>3736084

I'm not throwing random words, i'm trying to get a point across. I disagree with what you said about brand recognition being important, It might be, but to a smaller extent than people think.

For example, everybody that owns a phone surely knows about the blackberry brand. Does that mean they're selling like hot cakes? Surely not.

Maybe the better word is "momentum", or hype or whatever.

Whatever it is, Metroid doesn't have it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:57:45 2017 No.3736148 >>3735884 GBAshitter detected. >complains about casualized vidya while asking for shallower gameplay

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 18:58:11 2017 No.3736149 It's sort of embarrassing that the closest things we got to an actual Metroid this decade so far are a fan remake and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hqVWQzJlFo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 19:15:01 2017 No.3736185 >>3735954 >>3736075 >fangames >good tell us about your fanfic game, I'd love to hear how Samus was a brave spacetranny that saved the galaxy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 19:17:01 2017 No.3736190 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 19:19:11 2017 No.3736191 >>3736185 You don't even know what they're talking about do you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 19:38:46 2017 No.3736215 >>3736185 >>3736191 its just /pol/ trying to derail another thread, just report and let the janitor use the broom on him

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:04:47 2017 No.3736247 >>3736215 >>3736191 How about you two tell how fangames are any different from fanfics?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:07:13 2017 No.3736251 >>3736131 I can agree that Metroid lost alot of it's momentum, but an announce of an actual Metroid game that isn't gimmick shit would probably generate a lot of hype. >>3736247 Not them but AM2R is pretty much a remake of Metroid 2

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:46:51 2017 No.3736316

>>3735761
I simply thought of Super Metroid. Then I asked myself: "Can Nintendo really make a game like this today, with the same atmosphere and gameplay?". And I think the answer is "no".

I didn't try to blame it all on some bogeyman casuals/soccer moms. I just see that a new game like Super Metroid would clash with almost everything they've made since around 2005.

I try to imagine Nintendo making another dark, claustrophobic, enigmatic game, with huge, seamless world, exploration and puzzles like Super Metroid. But I can't. I feel Nintendo is just too different now for this.

To get that old Metroid, you'd need a different Nintendo. Today, they are too focused on keeping things the same, and they would never risk to make a scarier, gloomier, more mature game like Super Metroid. That's just my opinion.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 21:05:46 2017 No.3736351

Make spinoffs starring different girls in different powersuits with different skillsets.
The girls are all cute with anime-like designs and you can remove the powersuits whenever you feel like staring at a cute bikini-clad anime girl all alone in a dark and gloomy planet.

It could be 2d, it could be 3rd person, I don't know. When I played Metroid Prime I realized Metroid doesn't really NEED to be 2D, it just needs to put you in a big mysterious world and leave you the fuck alone to find a way on your own without any plot getting in the way. MP1 felt a lot more like a true Metroid experience than Fusion did, that's for sure.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:22:16 2017 No.3736514
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>>3735648
By not making any more. Metroid, II, and Super, Prime, Zero, and Fusion (debatable) were all fucking awesome, but let a franchise stop on a strong note, rather than fizzle out over time. If games were musicians, the former would be far more preferable.

To really drive this point home, none of the original talent from any of the originals are around. It's lucky we got a few extra great games from different studios. But this should really say something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:25:34 2017 No.3736518 I would kill the franchise. It's reached its full potential with the third game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:38:07 2017 No.3736542 >>3736518 You retro people have no appreciation for a game just because it falls outside the fourth generation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:39:10 2017 No.3736543 >>3736542 What did the Prime or GBA games do better than Super Metroid?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:39:58 2017 No.3736545 >>3736542 Fusion and Zero Mission were downgrades in every way. Prime was a fucking disgrace to Metroid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:41:11 2017 No.3736548 >>3736514 >To really drive this point home, none of the original talent from any of the originals are around. Who's the guy that made Super? Did he make any other games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:44:46 2017 No.3736557 RRRREEE /vr/ IS SHIT TOO.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:00:31 2017 No.3736589 >>3736557 Are you sure it's not you who is shit, lad?

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:06:55 2017 No.3736601

>>3736543
The GBA games had better controls and physics, Zero had better level design.
The Prime games were completely different and to think one is objectively better than the other is retarded. The important part is they tried something new for the series and it worked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:08:54 2017 No.3736603 >>3736545 Owww, I cut myself on that edge.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:24:15 2017 No.3736620 >>3735648 2 words. Virtual Reality

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:26:12 2017 No.3736626

I don't like how Super is treated like an untouchable sacred cow, like the Ocarina of Time of Metroid.
Yes, it's a fucking great game but Zero Mission improved on pretty much everything (unless you really like to grapple around and scan walls), including the graphics despite the lower resolution.
I mean, after I played the Super Metroid hack that makes the controls and physics resemble those of the GBA games, I couldn't go back to vanilla.
Fusion fucked up with all that plot and linearity so I'm glad ZM exists.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:27:19 2017 No.3736628

>>3736545
>Prime was a fucking disgrace to Metroid.
Let me guess, you never played it.
Honestly, I thought the "it's actually a really good game and the conversion to first person actually worked" thing that everyone said about it was pure bollocks until I actually tried it myself. It really fucking works. It's a bona-fide Metroid game. You can tell that the people who made it understood Metroid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:47:39 2017 No.3736660 >>3736628 >lock-on shit >Halo-tier gameplay >less upgrades than Super >doesn't even feature Kraid It's barely a Metroid game. Only /v/kiddies get their dick hard over Prime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:52:00 2017 No.3736667 >>3736660 Either you've never played Prime or you've never played Halo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:55:59 2017 No.3736674 >>3736660 Yeah its such a fucking tragedy that they made new bosses instead of reusing the same shit every game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:00:24 2017 No.3736682 >>3736660 >All first person games are Halo Yeah, you never played Prime. Your loss, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:08:55 2017 No.3736691 >>3736667 >>3736682 >thinks Prime gameplay is as advanced as Super's Yeah, you're retards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:10:34 2017 No.3736695 >>3736691 BUT IT'S THREEE DEEEEEEE AND FIRST PERSON!!! MUH IMMERSSION!!! FUCK YOUR OLD 2D SHIT GRAMPS!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:11:52 2017 No.3736698 >>3736667 How does Prime not play like Halo? It's typical FPS shit. Only difference is sometimes you morph into a ball to solve braindead simple puzzles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:17:46 2017 No.3736708 >>3736660 Prime 1 has more upgrades than Super though. 21 vs 19 to be exact. You're pretty much talking out of your ass. Kraid isn't everything. He wasn't in Metroid 2 (And neither was Ridley).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:19:19 2017 No.3736714 >>3736698 >How does Super Metroid not play like Mario? It's typical sidescroller shit. Only difference is you shoot beams and missiles and kill braindead easy bosses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:25:06 2017 No.3736721 >>3736714 Spotted the faggot who's never tried to speedrun Super Metroid, which has some of the most intricate 2D mechanics of all time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:26:25 2017 No.3736727 >>3736721 >some of the most intricate 2D mechanics of all time. Play Zero Mission.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:29:11 2017 No.3736734 >>3736727 >handheld games Lmfao

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:53:26 2017 No.3736763
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>>3735648
Dead simple.

Zero G shooter/RPG/adventure game. Would work great with the controller. And it would just perfectly make sense, she already travels to other planets, it's only due that some of those would have low gravity, it would be totally natural for her to venture into those with a jetpack.

/saved!

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:59:46 2017 No.3736767
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>>3735648
Start by not screwing up the virtual boy. Wait until the technology is good enough to make it duochromatic. Then be sure to make the controller actually well suited for 3d, n64 styled or with an actual joystick, or even trackball.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 01:01:22 2017 No.3736768 >>3736601 >GBA games had better controls and physics >to think one is objectively better than the other is retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 01:18:33 2017 No.3736792 >>3736768 >I can't read

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 01:37:04 2017 No.3736815 >>3736792 >I contradicted myself within two sentences but...y-you can't read!

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 01:43:36 2017 No.3736824

>>3736815
>I
>>3736601 and >>3736792 are 2 different people
>contradicted myself within two sentences but...y-you can't read!
Zero mission and Fusion are 2d games that are a continuation of the kind of gameplay in Super Metroid.
Metroid Prime belongs to a completely different genre, so trying to say a game from one genre is objectively better than a completely different game from another genre is retarded, but I wouldn't put being retarded past you at this point.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 01:56:10 2017 No.3736834

>>3736824
Then you're both retarded. I'm pointing out the fact that he stated that to think one is *objectively* better was retarded, when he just asserted his *subjective* opinion about the GBA games having better controls and physics (how? can that statement be backed up by evidence?) as an *objective* fact. You stupid faggot.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 02:07:44 2017 No.3736842

>>3736834
I knew I shouldn't have put being retarded past you. Did you not read the post I originally replied to?

The point, which any functioning human being would have understood by now, is that you can't argue what Prime "did better" than Super Metroid because they're completely different games.
You can argue what Zero and Fusion "did better" than Super because they're from the same genre, are direct sequels from the same series, and have the same overall gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 02:15:24 2017 No.3736849 >>3736698 Again, it's blatantly clear you haven't played it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 03:26:00 2017 No.3736917 >>3736834 That was a good attempt, you almost got out of that one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 04:05:12 2017 No.3736950 >>3736734 This IS a metroid thread!

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 04:37:12 2017 No.3736971

>>3736075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xinw6In4To4

I love any chance to post this that I can because I would literally sell all of my female family members into white slavery for a chance to actually play a complete game version of this demo.

>>3735648
Stop the stupid shit: Prime 3, Other M, Federation Force, they all suck. Nintendo needs to stop trying to reinvent the wheel. It isn't that kind of fucking series. When they just polish the tried-and-true formula instead, they get great games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 05:52:59 2017 No.3737047 http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,18620.0.html ROGUE DAWN RELEASE NOW

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 06:34:36 2017 No.3737076 >>3737047 Awesome. Loving this, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 06:41:28 2017 No.3737082 >>3736660 HAHAHAHAHAHA Sasuga 90's childhood board!

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 06:52:36 2017 No.3737091 [DELETED]

>>3736824
>but I wouldn't put being retarded past you at this point.
KEEEEEK

I think mindlessly asking for more Metroid is dumb. I really like Miyamoto's mentality of "what do you want us to do with a new game that we haven't already done", something he said when asked about a new F-Zero. Are you really asking for rehashes? Let good franchises stay good. And if it must, let it die good.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 10:33:47 2017 No.3737285

>>3735701
Other M was the first Metroid game to introduce heavy story/character development (before we just had the manga).

"Fans" got butthurt because the version of Samus portrayed didn't meet with their expectations of some hard, ice-queen bitch who didn't care about anything but herself.

This was exemplified by the way the voice actor (which sounded very "anime-like") exclaimed "the baby" during a scene.

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>>3736721
>Spotted the faggot who's never tried to speedrun Super Metroid, which has some of the most intricate 2D mechanics of all time.
There aren't enough words in the English language to describe how much of a faggot you are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 11:37:11 2017 No.3737404 File: 558 KB, 1364x1000, a0c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3737285 taking in fact that both manga and Other M are prettybad With manga being a clusterfuck of RIP AND TEAR and MUH PTSD IMMA SHIT MYSELF BCUZ OF RIDLEY

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 11:58:23 2017 No.3737440

>>3737285

Samus is a complete hardass in the manga but no one fucking read that, the characterization comes from how she's presented non-verbal--

Why the fuck am I having this same argument again? We've done this dance before.

Why on /vr/?

What the fuck are the mods doing? How is this thread still up?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:02:16 2017 No.3737447 >>3737404 >MUH PTSD IMMA SHIT MYSELF BCUZ OF RIDLEY is it time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:04:36 2017 No.3737452 >>3737447 >>>/v/ >>>/trash/ >>>/s4s/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 19:17:04 2017 No.3738217 >>3737440 >Why the fuck am I having this same argument again? Because every day is repost day and you're here forever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 19:19:08 2017 No.3738221 >>3738217 You had to bump the thread, just to kick me in the balls, huh?

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 19:55:39 2017 No.3738289 [DELETED]

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>>3735648
It's dead and Sakamoto killed it. Nintendo should just make a new franchise with a different name that has a woman in power armor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD_wU8P8ZxA
in this age she would have to be a fat feminist nigger so maybe thats not a good idea either

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 19:57:01 2017 No.3738293 >>3735818 >super metroid 2 That's Fusion, we need Fusion 2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 19:59:34 2017 No.3738296 >>3736185 >AM2R >fanfic It's just Metroid 2. Metroid 2 that's stuck on a terrible handheld.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 20:02:14 2017 No.3738302 >>3736185 >AM2R >fanfic It's just Metroid 2. Metroid 2 that's not stuck on a terrible handheld.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 20:16:44 2017 No.3738331 Being Nintendo. Hiring the AM2R team. Basically pull a Capcom with SFxMM

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 20:42:08 2017 No.3738393 >>3737285 >Other M was the first Metroid game to introduce heavy story/character development Fusion exists retard

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 21:11:04 2017 No.3738458

>>3737091

This is simply an argument for mediocrity and acomodation. It's "good enough" lets leave it at that. Let's not spoil things up. Fuck that.

If at least the story was finished, I guess this argument could have some weight to it. It's not, so we should keep pushing for more, better games that expand upon the franchise with untaped potential.

I just can't seem to understand why metroid fans get so much shit for being "entitled", when there's franchises out there with 3-4 times the size in installments, and people still demand more with no reprehension.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 21:26:51 2017 No.3738481 >>3738393 At least in Fusion you still didn't see Samus talking to anyone in person. But still, story in a metroid game is always a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 21:51:24 2017 No.3738509 >>3735648 >buy retro studios >make them create every future metroid title >kill team ninja

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 06:20:28 2017 No.3739051 >>3738331 >>3738302 But it is just as bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 06:26:23 2017 No.3739063 >>3735648 I wouldn't. Let every franchise die.

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 15:04:39 2017 No.3739650
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>>3737440
>Why on /vr/?
Why the hell not? We have threads about how a particular console or other such thing could have been handled way better, why can't- why shouldn't this question be interpreted that way?

Are you telling me people didn't actually answer it like that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 15:06:21 2017 No.3739654 >>3739650 >Why the hell not? Because Other M isn't fuckin' /vr/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 15:23:33 2017 No.3739682 File: 46 KB, 256x224, timewarp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3739654 Were you too lazy and triggered to read past the first sentence, or are you really too stupid to understand any of the rest of it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 18:42:11 2017 No.3740136 File: 82 KB, 217x215, gittinggudintensifies.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3735648 Give it to From Software

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 18:51:40 2017 No.3740154 >>3740136 So the Power Suit is be fully customized and I can attach shoulder weapons and give Samus have quad-legs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 19:03:06 2017 No.3740176 >>3739682 Because it's NOT. FUCKING. /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 19:11:37 2017 No.3740196 >>3740154 also the game will cans speak english then probably too also.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 19:31:38 2017 No.3740221 File: 37 KB, 386x400, way too easy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3740176 Damn, no wonder they start threads acting sore about why gamecube isn't allowed on this board so often.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 19:33:25 2017 No.3740225 >>3735648 >3D Give it to Retro Studios >2D Give it to whoever made AM2R

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 19:49:39 2017 No.3740245 >>3735851 >Making the entire system portable as if actual gamers give a shit about actually being playing games outside >Not an attempt to capitalize on the nonexistent casual market still

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 20:03:27 2017 No.3740270 >>3740136 >metroid, kings field style i'm entirely ok with this.

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 21:01:12 2017 No.3740369
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This question should have been made easier. We should have posited an alternate course when Sega seized the N64s GPU for themselves, or possibly teamed up with sony and ended up making the SaturnStation distinctly bloated, leaving the SNES successor as a much more 2d-capable system.

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 21:08:44 2017 No.3740384

Just make another 2D Metroid. It's as simple as that. Give it a good amount of development time and budget and give it some good presentation and tight controls. It shouldn't have any story at all other than some really small excerpt of it in the manual and two or three lines of text for the opening and ending. That's all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 21:12:01 2017 No.3740390 File: 1.60 MB, 1177x804, tumblr_m90vmufrHG1re8zjko1_1280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Give it back to R&D 1 and Intelligent Systems, and make it in 2D again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 21:16:59 2017 No.3740406 File: 102 KB, 540x274, 1479710287466.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3740390 I'd like a new 2D Metroid in the original art style

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 19:45:57 2017 No.3742721 >>3735726 I agree with this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 19:47:17 2017 No.3742725 >>3736316 that is also very right.

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 20:02:30 2017 No.3742748

>>3735648

>What made metroid generaly great?
Isolation and hostility provided the atmosphere and exploration was main focus of gameplay.

>Do we need complicated storylines?
No. That's what killed Other 'M' and almost was a nuisance in Fusion. Just gives us a vague premise, with hints of lore here and there. Don't impose the story to the players, let them search for it. Make the main story some thing really simple - Kill all metroids. Kill mother brain. Recover the last metroid, and so on...

>Why do we loved Samus?
Because she's a hardass. She's basically boba fett. You don't hear him talking much, and neither should Samus. She doesn't need to be a full on bitch mode - she can be tender, but rarely. Those Feelings have to be buried deep down.

>But where in the timeline should a new game fit?
Maybe a reboot? Or, she could be a fugitive from the GF In a new 2d game, that happened just after Fusion. She could get cancer or some other disease as side effect of the metroid vacionation. It would be a perfect justification for why she, once more, lost every upgrade. Maybe she has to keep runing from the GF, while trying to find a cure or some shit in ancient Chozo Ruins.

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 20:12:47 2017 No.3742759

>>3742748
In summary:

>2D game.
>No fucking dialogues.
>No hands holding like on fusion and zero mission. Let me be the explorer.
>New mechanics to keep it fresh like X-Samus was on fusion. She could travel to other planets, or she could scavenge parts and shit. Maybe she's sick and dies a little everytime she uses the Armor, forcing the player to play as Suitless Samus - She would be weaker and the game would be like a cinematic platform (Prince of Persia). The game would, make you feel really overpowered when using the Suit, but at a price. Think Dragon Quarter,but not stupid.
>Fuck ADAM, and any other supporting character. It's just her.
>Let Riddley Kraid and motherbrain be dead. She could find another one of his species. But god, no more clones or mecha version of the same dude.
>Seriously fuck ADAM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 22:32:04 2017 No.3742996 >>3735648 on a disk card as the developers originally intended.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 22:40:03 2017 No.3743012 >>3742759 It's funny but in Metroid, the coolest thing is when you're actually left alone with absolutely no one to talk to. Really makes you think huh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 22:41:53 2017 No.3743014 File: 38 KB, 446x449, 1350276137175.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3735648 Make Metroid X

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 22:46:41 2017 No.3743023 >>3743014 What would that entail exactly?

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 23:27:49 2017 No.3743102

>>3735681
Fuck that, there's no reason not to have it 3D these days. There's been enough 3D sidescrolling games that it makes sense, plus it could scale to any size from 640x480 to 8K and beyond and look slick as fuck doing it.

Here's a shitty example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie5FO_BetOE

But if you're not a complete retard you can grasp and expand on that concept. The lighting in the room in the pick up, dynamic lighting etc... all would be nice. Physics effects could be added, proper distortions. The smaller scale of gameplay window would allow for decent performance as well even with AA kicked to 11 on most things especially these days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 01:03:51 2017 No.3743262 1. Adopt AM2R and release it officially on Eshop 2. Hire AM2R guy to start work with full team on a Metroid Fusion follow up 3. Meanwhile have retro make prime 4

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 02:07:45 2017 No.3743329 >>3743262 god no

Anonymous Tue Jan 17 02:18:38 2017 No.3743335

>>3735648
Everybody knows that no new game will ever compare to Super Metroid. If Gunpei Yokoi hadn't decided to go play in traffic maybe Metroid wouldn't be dead today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekGq85P1W0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAzpejmR8E8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM-pz1IweC8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 02:41:07 2017 No.3743356 Make a sequel based on the Super Metroid ending where Samus didn't save the animals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 05:18:27 2017 No.3743518 >>3743262 AM2R is shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 05:25:15 2017 No.3743523 >>3743356 This one could actually happen!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 09:57:03 2017 No.3743757 >>3736971 That looks really fucking shit, I'm guessing you're either 16 or a retarded "epic" metalhead faggot who jerks off to Doom every night.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 10:32:47 2017 No.3743791 >>3735648 I think we need less franchises. I'd much rather see Nintendo try making a new game than keep giving us the same 5 titles over and over and over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 11:45:06 2017 No.3743864 >>3743791 They keep doing this and no one ever cares except Splatoon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 11:47:31 2017 No.3743871 >>3735648 Shadow Complex is the closest thing we've gotten to an old-school Metroidvania style game in years. It's not /vr/ but I'd recommend that anyone who enjoyed Super Metroid check it out. Damn, I just realized that was 8 years ago now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 11:48:17 2017 No.3743872 >>3743864 What are other new Nintendo franchises?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 12:41:46 2017 No.3743946 >>3743872 Dillon, W101, Pushmo, Pandora's tower Xenoblade but people cared about that

Anonymous Tue Jan 17 14:25:16 2017 No.3744113

>>3736626
>I mean, after I played the Super Metroid hack that makes the controls and physics resemble those of the GBA games, I couldn't go back to vanilla.

My one complaint with that hack was, when in ball form, you can't hold R to select Power Bombs like you can in the GBA games.

Anonymous Tue Jan 17 14:38:24 2017 No.3744135

>>3742748
>Or, she could be a fugitive from the GF In a new 2d game, that happened just after Fusion.

Nintendo would never make a modern Metroid with Samus at odds with the GF. Not after making Federation Farce.

If they were to make a continuation to Fusion, it'd play out something like this:

>Mysterious Man seen in conversations w/ Adam AI is the head of the Metroid breeding program
>It was a secret program and the GF didn't know what was being done.
>Mysterious Man started the program because he was convinced the GF had to breed Metroids to match the power of the Space Pirates.

...But this is all a moot point because if Other M stays canon, no Metroid game after 1 can happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 14:46:45 2017 No.3744148 >>3744135 >...But this is all a moot point because if Other M stays canon, no Metroid game after 1 can happen. Why?

Anonymous Tue Jan 17 14:50:28 2017 No.3744158

Other M was fun in terms of gameplay but the story sucked. I'd be happy with another game with a similar style without them trying to make Samus human but ultimately turning her into a weird codependant mary sue character. I'm not saying she has to be a tomboyish Turbo Ellen Ripley type character but they need to find a middle ground.

Anonymous Tue Jan 17 15:13:33 2017 No.3744210

>>3744148

Other M states that Mother Brain directs Space Pirates so that they can actually accomplish shit. Kill the Brain, and the Pirates go back to being dumb animals.

So anything chronologically after Metroid 1 can't happen. No Super, no Prime, no Hunters, and no Fusion. Possibly no FedFarce either, but it wouldn't exactly be a problem if that game got shot into the sun.

Sakamoto is such a thin-skinned fuckboi that he couldn't stand the fact that Retro made some good Metroids, so when he got his hands of the IP again, he ended up making a game that not only retcons PIGGU AMERIKAN GEIMU, it retcons the game that is a prequel to Other M.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 18:56:07 2017 No.3744646 >>3735648 By letting it r.i.p. and be remembered as an awesome series.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 18 03:51:03 2017 No.3745257 What could the next threat even be?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 18 05:55:27 2017 No.3745358 >>3744210 It's implied that Ridley is high-ranking and holds shit together though. But either way, no biggie. It's not like they couldn't just change their story down the line or pull some alternate universe shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 18 07:07:08 2017 No.3745414 >>3744646 Amen

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 18 07:43:55 2017 No.3745443 >>3744646 Wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 18 13:47:23 2017 No.3745928 File: 22 KB, 425x292, 1402131515485.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3744210 Yo, I got this A 2nd Mother Brain

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 09:42:19 2017 No.3747670 >>3745928 That was already done in Other M.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 09:46:46 2017 No.3747678 File: 60 KB, 347x292, 1484765243529-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3747670 Picture it now... a... THIRD! Mother Brain..

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 09:49:17 2017 No.3747681 File: 47 KB, 960x539, tmp_32396-switch-screen-2032674999.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3735648 Better question. How do we safe nintendo?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 09:50:59 2017 No.3747683 >>3747681 Release original games on apps the way they were intended to be played. Not like how they mascred mario. Imagine a 4 player goldeneye via app...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 10:06:54 2017 No.3747696 >>3747683 I imagined it, now I'm vomiting uncontrollably. Thanks, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 10:35:02 2017 No.3747727 >>3747683 wow that sounds fucking terrible

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 10:54:47 2017 No.3747745 Would kill for new 2D Metroid game on 3DS even if it will be 1/10 as good as Super Metroid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 11:23:11 2017 No.3747784 >>3747678 kek

Anonymous Thu Jan 19 11:26:02 2017 No.3747789

>>3747683
No thanks.

>>3747745
Fusion and Zero Mission are both better than Super Metroid and they were created after it. Personally I hope It's a 3D Metroid myself, because while a lot of people are excited for Sonic Mania, they are just selling original trilogy Sonic with pretty indie graphics and a new maneuver or two. That's not what I want for Metroid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 13:10:05 2017 No.3747987 >>3747789 >Fusion and Zero Mission are both better than Super Metroid and they were created after it are you serious?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 13:11:09 2017 No.3747990 >>3747987 Yes, why do you disagree?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 19 18:34:05 2017 No.3748563 >>3736548 Sakamoto's the only one still around. Gunpei Yokoi got killed by yakuza, if you want to believe the stories.

Anonymous Thu Jan 19 21:55:47 2017 No.3748941

>>3747990
Not that same anon, but while Fusion and Zero Mission are a blast, the pacing is too choppy with the constant hand holding, and it really breaks the atmosphere of loneliness that I find important in the older titles. Super doesn't do itself any service with the long-ass unskippable item-pickup-explanation-text, but everything else is nearly perfect immersion-wise.

Anonymous Fri Jan 20 03:02:40 2017 No.3749431

>>3748941
>with the constant hand holding

Man, so much this. I recently fired up Zero Mission for shits and giggles. Within 5 minutes, I have Chozo statues showing me where to go next on the map 3 fucking times. After the 3rd one, you can say fuck that and go explore Kraid instead of Norfair, but I was already pretty turned off by the whole affair by that point.

I would literally rather play the NES Metroid and just go exploring. But to each their own.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 20 03:59:50 2017 No.3749487 When Nintendo goes third party hopefully they will be smart and port some metroid games to PC or a modern console. I think the series could see a huge boost in popularity if the mainstream gaming demographic could get a hold of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 20 04:16:46 2017 No.3749503 >>3735648 >How would you save the Metroid franchise? You wouldn't. There is no hope for AAA games these days. And making Metroid not be an AAA game would be commercial suicide. It's over guys, video games are finished, get over it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 20 04:24:33 2017 No.3749507 >>3749503 >video games are finished, get over it. Don't worry, sports, racing and sims will live for ever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 20 04:27:35 2017 No.3749509 >>3749507 With micro transactions, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 20 21:02:27 2017 No.3750659 >>3744646 There needs to be at least 1 more good Metroid to make up for the blight that Other M left us.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 20 21:03:42 2017 No.3750661 >>3737091 I wish they had that same philosophy towards Zelda.

Anonymous Sat Jan 21 01:54:59 2017 No.3751054 [DELETED]

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Ignore Metroid Prime kiddies. They don't know shit.

Go back to Metroid 2D with sprites or make it pseudo 2D like Other M.

Either that or hand it off to WayForward or IntiCreates and keep an close fucking eye on them so they don't fuck me over like they did Inafune.

Keep Zero Suit Samus.

Try and bring back the fusion suit because I like it alot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 06:20:54 2017 No.3751271 >>3751054 >Ignore Metroid Prime... >Keep Zero Suit Samus. Fuck. Off.

Anonymous Sat Jan 21 09:28:09 2017 No.3751469
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>>3751271
>>Ignore Metroid Prime.

I said ignore Metroid Prime kiddies.

>>Keep Zero Suit Samus.

The Zero Suit is nice. Deal with it. Samus has wore less in the past.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 09:29:22 2017 No.3751471 >>3751469 Damn metroid 2 is kinda the sexiest

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 09:38:26 2017 No.3751474 >>3751471 It's pretty nice but I find her being barefoot weird. Should have some kind of shoes on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 09:49:12 2017 No.3751478 >>3751474 wasn't ripley barefoot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 18:47:51 2017 No.3752306 File: 155 KB, 500x500, tumblr_mihny9guWU1rw70wfo1_500.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3751469

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 18:51:25 2017 No.3752308 File: 1.31 MB, 2096x1680, because fuck Fed Force.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3735648 heres the old metroid general order to play

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 19:02:20 2017 No.3752323 >>3752308 >Skipping original Metroid and Metroid 2 Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 19:10:55 2017 No.3752330 >>3752308 >Telling people to play Hunters >Putting down on there >Including a fangame This guy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 19:11:08 2017 No.3752331 >>3752323 I was thinking the same, but it gets posted so often that I've pretty much just given up. To Hell with it. People who enjoy themselves and want more will inevitably be curious enough to load up the original games, anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 19:12:57 2017 No.3752338 >>3752323 >One is outdated as your dick >Other has more bugs than your mother, aunt, sister and grandma's cunt trying to suck and fuck dicks on /v/ to pay your jewish and yellow asian internet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 19:16:36 2017 No.3752343 >>3752330 >Doom**

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 02:11:15 2017 No.3752980 >>3735704 No. Don't play Other M.

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 03:04:06 2017 No.3753042

>>3735648
Someone needs to figure out how to make a 3d platformer with controls as tight as the 2d metroid series, that feeling of always knowing your location and inertia enough to shoot enemies mid jump, gliding through the map. shit just hopping from platform to platform feels extremely smooth. add in some tight third person shooting with a spazer beam, open world exploration, maybe add in new tools, x-ray scope in late game for hand holding, maybe be able to actually run fast wall jump up a skyscraper. have full omnidirectional air control while jumping.

also
Clone samus, teach her wrong, dosent say shit and is bounty hunter, travel around and kill. maybe get conscience and save some shit. go pillage ruins. maybe mother brain is your master, who knows.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 05:11:38 2017 No.3753147 >>3752338 >outdated

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