After years of deliberation, I have come to the conclusion that Wolf Hawkfield is my favorite grappler, and a strong contender for the best grappler in videogame history.

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Anonymous Tue Jan 10 17:42:09 2017 No.3730485 [Reply] [Original]

After years of deliberation, I have come to the conclusion that Wolf Hawkfield is my favorite grappler, and a strong contender for the best grappler in videogame history.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 17:49:47 2017 No.3730495 >>3730485 Well, explain yourself, OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:00:48 2017 No.3730517 >>3730485 Well no shit. This is the reason why most people love Virtua Fighter. AM2 did a great job getting down fighting styles. The only thing they fucked up was moon physics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:01:14 2017 No.3730518 >>3730485 AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:04:40 2017 No.3730524
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>>3730495
Trying to explain it doesn't do it justice. You have to go play as him to truly understand.
When you clothesline someone and stomp their nutsack, or when you giant swing someone out of the ring, or when you just barely clip someone with a toe kick and link it into a stone cold stunner, or when someone is trying to get you with those fucking crouch jabs so you counter it for big damage, only then will you know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:05:00 2017 No.3730525 File: 311 KB, 884x903, 1478676858569.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3730518

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:10:35 2017 No.3730536 File: 661 KB, 1200x1600, 952415-insect__stun__5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3730485 Looks like a bit of a pussy, here OP have a better grappler

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:13:15 2017 No.3730539 >>3730517 That and the whole game was abysmal

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:17:53 2017 No.3730548
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>>3730485
Haven't played enough of VF, but from VF5 he seemed cool indeed.

Here's my favorite pick though. Clark is the easiest grappler I've seen in 2D games by far. He's like Terry, you can pick him up in any game and not worry you don't get something.

Second is probably Ale from SFIII… Great attempt from Capcom at making an accessible grappler character, but he still requires skill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:24:51 2017 No.3730557 My fav fighter ninja is from VF I just love how down to earth he is while still being a somewhat mystical character.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:36:31 2017 No.3730575 >>3730539 The first VF is pretty good. Way better than Toshinden and the first two Tekken. And better than any western 3D fighting game ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:38:35 2017 No.3730581 >>3730575 >And better than any western 3D fighting game ever. That's an extremely low bar to set

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:40:34 2017 No.3730586 File: 59 KB, 506x292, wain laughing cats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3730575 >western 3D fighting game

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:55:47 2017 No.3730614 >>3730557 He also canonically kicked the most ass in the series even though he isn't the main character. >>3730575 >>3730581 >>3730586 I can't even think of a single western 3d fighter

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 18:57:58 2017 No.3730618 File: 134 KB, 485x738, MarstoriusFHD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nah

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 19:07:17 2017 No.3730630 >>3730614 4d boxing!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 19:08:35 2017 No.3730632 >>3730614 MK4–7 I guess 5th–6th gen had more Western figthers but I don't really want to know about them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 19:39:42 2017 No.3730661 >>3730525 RAAAGH, I AM NUMBER ONE

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:08:27 2017 No.3730695 >>3730485 After years of deliberation, I have come to the conclusion that OP is a dweeb, and a strong contender for the biggest dweeb in /vr/ history.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:09:41 2017 No.3730696 >>3730575 >VF better than Tekken 1 and 2 You're a fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:13:09 2017 No.3730703 File: 294 KB, 500x372, dweebenheimer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3730695

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:14:09 2017 No.3730704 File: 18 KB, 210x240, kevin-ed-edd-n-eddy-the-mis-edventures-7.09.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3730695 Whatever, dork

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:15:57 2017 No.3730706 >>3730485 >His favorite grappler isn't King gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:20:19 2017 No.3730710
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>>3730485
Wolf is great. The physics, the howl. Part of a good run of solid Injuns in fighting games, Thunder, T. Hawk, Nightwolf - all good.

But hey. Titties.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:58:04 2017 No.3730770 >>3730696 Come on, the first Tekken game that wasn't dogshit to play was Tekken 3. That game was really good. VF1 was amazing for its time, and VF2 still holds up today imo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:32:13 2017 No.3730829 >>3730770 VF2 is great. But there's no way in hell that VF1 is better than Tekken 1 and 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:41:51 2017 No.3730841 File: 64 KB, 690x1002, doa2hcx01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3730710 I want Tina to grapple my penis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 22:24:37 2017 No.3730891 File: 25 KB, 103x137, 46624.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3730485 CAGE>WOLF

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 05:33:07 2017 No.3731390 >>3730770 >VF1 was amazing for its time It really wasn't, outside of using polygon graphics the game was awful and had literally nothing going for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 05:34:43 2017 No.3731391 >>3730770 >and VF2 still holds up today Not even close

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:27:06 2017 No.3731814
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Mine is Tizoc, but Wolf is pretty cool too, I guess.

>>3730614
Time Warriors, Criticom, Dark Rift, Cyber Gladiators, Mace: The Dark Age, Thrill Kill, Wu Tang, Star Wars Masters of Teras Kasi are the retro ones I can remember.
All suck, all (but Time Warriors) are gimmicky and not a single one is "pure" 3D fighting like Virtua Fighter.

>>3730696
The first Tekken was awful, and the second was just playable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:24:24 2017 No.3732087 >>3730536 BR2 Stun is the best Stun but can he handle VF4FTDD Wolf? Even T6 AMK has a better chance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:32:22 2017 No.3732105 >>3730696 There was no Tekken when Virtua Fighter came out. Back in the 90's my arcade had a large projection screen Tekken, but everyone was too busy playing Virtua Fighter 2. I never even saw crowds around a Tekken game until 3 came out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:34:46 2017 No.3732107 File: 29 KB, 320x240, winner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My favorite virtua fighter was trunks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:42:39 2017 No.3732114 File: 81 KB, 640x480, completly chinheese.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3732107 >not Tao Pai Pai

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:45:44 2017 No.3732118 >>3730696 The first VF were great compared to Tekken especially VF 2. VF 3 isn't as good as Tekken 3 tho.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:55:52 2017 No.3732135 >>3732118 Tekken 3 is a broken mess of a game, virtua fighter 3 was absolute shit though. I wouldn't really say any of the virtua fighter or tekken games were "good"

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 19:59:59 2017 No.3732640

>>3732135
VF 1 is always interesting to see since I was born a year after this and how far we've gotten

VF 2 is still a fantastic game due to how well they improved everything in about a year. Any Model 2 game still blows my mind away. Besides the floaty jumps.

I really haven't played Tekken 3 since the early 00s but i remember it being good. Not as good as Soul Calibur on DC my favorite Namco fighter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 20:51:22 2017 No.3732771 >>3732640 T3 is a legit terrible game once you actually learn how to play it.

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 21:49:28 2017 No.3732874
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Any VF3 fans here, specifically those who played it in the arcade and on Dreamcast?? What are your thoughts on this port? It seems it's not faithful to the arcade version in terms of graphics, but it seems to run in 60 fps, so the gameplay is the same as the arcade version, is it not?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 22:05:21 2017 No.3732893 >>3730548 my nigga. also has best music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ZlT68DYZs

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 22:12:05 2017 No.3732914

>moon physics
And that's why you abuse of the moon physics with Kage
But Wolf is literally this >>3730524. Even in the first game it felt good doing that shit with him, specially that running clothesline. He was even better in 4Evo

>>3731390
>93 arcade game
>3d fighting game in 1993
>game was awful even back then

Yeah sure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 22:29:42 2017 No.3732949 >>3732874 There's some framerate drops but those don't happen during actual gameplay as far as I know. I think some of the hate comes from the fact that the DC could've handled VF3 but the port was done by someone other than AM2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 22:31:52 2017 No.3732951 File: 157 KB, 389x183, clark-xi-super.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3732893 RUN DIS YAAAARD Almost all of Clark's moves were taken from Kinnikuman

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:26:08 2017 No.3733520 >>3732893 >not Rumbling on the City https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKigbfYXQ4w

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:30:12 2017 No.3733529 >>3730495 not OP, but there was a god tier VF2 player in Japan who curbstomped everyone in the entire country with Lau's punch spam. They beat him by backdashing with Wolf so his punch spam misses, then giant swing him off the screen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:31:56 2017 No.3733532 >>3730696 The first two Tekkens were complete dogshit. It wasn't until Tekken 3 that the series became playable. VF2 was extremely technical and polished before Tekken even existed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:35:22 2017 No.3733538 >>3732914 >It was 3D so it must be good you fucking retard

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:37:55 2017 No.3733539

>>3732874
VF3 was too much ahead of its time, and because of that some of its improvements were too weird or broken. Like how kick animations "break" if blocked (I blew my mind when I first saw that happening, it was the one thing that always bugged me in fighting games - even when blocked, a punch animation will finish, when in real life you couldn't finish a spinning kick if the other guy blocked your leg, VF3 was the first to have this, but it looked odd.).
And the uneven terrain allowed for 100% punch juggles if you had the high ground on a slope.

I recall some of the models also looked wrong, for example the way the arms bent was all wonky looking.

I wish they fixed all the experimental crap instead of outright removing them with VF4 though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:43:13 2017 No.3733551 >>3732874 I'm still mad that they fucked up the port and we didn't get a arcade perfect version. I bought a DC for this, you had ONE JOB sega.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:44:06 2017 No.3733552

>>3733532
>VF2 was extremely technical
Uh, no, vf2 was an extremely basic barebones game with very simple mechanics and gameplay.

lets look at some ACTUALLY technical fighting games from around that time.
Street Fighter Alpha
Vampire Hunter
King of Fighters
Super Turbo
Cyberbots
Samurai Shodown
XCOTA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:45:26 2017 No.3733557 >>3733552 >XCOTA Let's not get crazy here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:48:19 2017 No.3733562 >>3733557 XCOA was a very technical game regardless of what you think of it or how unbalanced it was

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 07:49:52 2017 No.3733564 >>3733532 >2 button game >extremely technical My sides are in orbit!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:00:24 2017 No.3733580 >>3733564 It's 3 buttons and there dosen't exist a 3d fighter more technical than VF3(fucking evades and height differences).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:05:11 2017 No.3733586 >>3733580 >there dosen't exist a 3d fighter more technical than VF3 HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:06:06 2017 No.3733589 >>3733586 Name a 3d fighter that's more complex and has more variables in a match.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:06:30 2017 No.3733590 >>3733589 Bloody Roar

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:09:02 2017 No.3733592 >>3733590 ayy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:09:25 2017 No.3733595 >>3733590 BTFO

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:12:03 2017 No.3733596 >>3733590 ding ding ding We have a winner

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:15:13 2017 No.3733597 >>3733590 >the game only fursuit owners defend ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:19:19 2017 No.3733603 >>3733597 >Gets BTFO >Resorts to ad hominem Hahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:27:45 2017 No.3733612 >>3733603 >no arguments except stating a title >BTFO yeah right, maybe it's time to wash your fursuit? BR engine dosen't take terrain nor character height difference into the equation so no it's not even in the same league of complexity as VF3

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:30:11 2017 No.3733615 >>3733612 Height differences didn't do shit in VF3 That's why it never showed up again

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:31:05 2017 No.3733616 File: 2.51 MB, 173x267, 1476630487704.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3733612 >BR engine dosen't take character height difference into the equation WRONG R O N G BTFOOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:32:39 2017 No.3733618 >>3733612 Bloody Roar has height and wight, not only that but they change depending on form, congrats outing yourself as a clueless retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:33:32 2017 No.3733619 >>3733615 >Height differences didn't do shit in VF3 maybe you should play it first. >>3733616 >has flat arenas >uses terrain height difference yeah go back to your dream land,

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:35:23 2017 No.3733621 >>3733618 >Bloody Roar has height and wight, I was talking about character height in relation to the terrain height difference. Character weight was something VF1 already did so BR is nothing special.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:38:02 2017 No.3733623 File: 2.84 MB, 650x486, vf broken trash.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3733621 >terrain height difference literal shit mechanic that broke the game and adds nothing but glitches

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:40:16 2017 No.3733627 >>3733623 >innovation is bad You're right, 3d fighters were a mistake 2d is all we need.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:42:56 2017 No.3733630 >>3733627 >innovation I just took a shit in your sandwich, why are you complaining its INNOVATION. Guess how i know you are clueless about fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:46:11 2017 No.3733632 >>3733627 >Lets add this horribly buggy feature that literally does nothing but fuck with the games hitboxes and causes glitches INNOVATION, GREAT GAME 10/10

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:46:23 2017 No.3733635 >>3733630 You're just bitching like a little child about glitches present in a shit rushed port made by a third party.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:47:35 2017 No.3733636 >>3733635 INNOVATION!

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:51:48 2017 No.3733638

>>3733636
How many features were stolen from VF by every 3d fighter? If VF haven't done it you'd only could cry that your genre is stagnating VF3 was a great game and great success in arcades. Cry all you want over shit ports but the reality is it was GREAT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:54:10 2017 No.3733641 >>3733638 More like how many features did VF steal from other 3D fighters

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:55:13 2017 No.3733642 File: 55 KB, 402x390, nevereverever.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3733638 >VF3 was a great game and great success in arcades

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:57:51 2017 No.3733647 >>3733642 >first Tekken that beat VF in arcades was Tekken 6 according to Harada. And that was when VF went on it's permanent VF5 phase.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 09:09:45 2017 No.3733660
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>Bloody Roar 3 universal mechanics:
Dodge
Heavy Guard
Light Guard
Guard Attack
Guard Break
Air Recover
Air Guard
Heavy Guard Tech
High/Low Throws
Just Frame Back Turn Throws
Beast Mode (2 forms that greatly effect gameplay)
Air Cancel
Cancel Points
Command Cancel
Hyper Cancel
Dash Cancel
Wall Jump
Wall Bound
Ground Bound
Character and Form Specific Defense Rating
Character and Form Specific Wight Rating
Offensive Quick Rise
Tech Roll
Pursuit Attack
Stagger
Crumple
White Life
Lever Recovery
Many MANY character specific mechanics (eg air dash, stance canceling, multi ring combos, etc, etc ,etc)

>virtua fighter 3 universal mechanics:
the ground is wobbly and it sometimes causes glitches

INNOVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 09:52:46 2017 No.3733703

>>3733660
Only new thing BR added to fighters was it's fursona mode which can be equaled to a second stance which almost every VF character has. Not to mention VF was the first 3d fighter to have stances changing base moves. Hell the drunken master drinking mechanic of Shun changes his style more than fursona mode in BR.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 09:56:22 2017 No.3733709 File: 938 KB, 285x200, You are so stupid.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3733703 >Beast is a stance >VF characters have beast mode OH GOD MY SIDES!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 09:59:30 2017 No.3733713 >>3733709 >Beast mode activates a one button combo >SO DEEP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:00:32 2017 No.3733714 >>3733703 >Beast mode is a stance Nope, Stance characters do also exist in Bloody Roar though. >yfw tekken stole most of its mechanics from Bloody roar and vf stole most of its mechanic from tekken

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:01:42 2017 No.3733717 >>3733713 >Beast mode activates a one button combo Um, no.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:03:01 2017 No.3733721 >>3733714 >vf stole most of its mechanic from tekken examples becouse as far as I remember a new Tekken only came out AFTER VF and after VF went on hiatus tekken since T5 was shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:04:48 2017 No.3733725 >>3733717 Um, yes it activates circle(on psx) as a attack button and mashing circle results in a 3hit combo for every character.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:06:42 2017 No.3733728 >>3733721 >VF is released >Its barebones game devoid of all mechanics >Tekken is released with new mechanic >New VF is released with mechanic taken from tekken

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:07:49 2017 No.3733731
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>>3733725
>mashing circle results in a 3hit combo for every character.
OH GOD MY FUCKING SIDES HAHAHAHA
HOLY SHIT YOU ARE RETARDED HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:15:32 2017 No.3733747 >>3733725 The fact you dont know the difference between a string and a combo, yet you are trying to talk about 3D fighting games and technical depth is pretty sad and telling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:41:45 2017 No.3733781 File: 113 KB, 600x572, tmp_26444-fighter-maker-usa-1983585576.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Deepest 3d fighter coming through you plebs have nothing on this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:52:49 2017 No.3733795 >>3733781 The music is pretty nice and it's fun as hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc4aiSqW39g

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 11:35:42 2017 No.3733872 >>3733725 Um, no an example of an actual real beast mode combo in Bloody Roar would be: 4PP xx 236P (kara cancel) 412369874P (air cancel) K6B 66B xx 214B (air cancel) K6B 66B xx 214B (air cancel) K6B 66B xx 236B/236236B

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:25:20 2017 No.3734157
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There's an awkward anon living in /vr/'s sewers who takes it as his duty to shit on Virtua Fighter every time it's brought up. Disregard his opinions.

VF series is like Dragon Quest in that it's barely even known or played in the West, because reasons. This doesn't make any less important and influential. VF was for 3D fighters what Street Fighter 2 was for 2D ones, it set the blueprint which most games in the genre still follow today. And needless to say, it's was the highest quality 3D fighter on the market by far. Give it its dues.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:31:36 2017 No.3734169 File: 1.71 MB, 480x360, vfisshit.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3734157 Meanwhile in reality

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:36:22 2017 No.3734256 >>3730485 Zangief R. Mika Hugo Clark Shermie Raiden (Big Bear) Tizoc (including the King of Dinosaurs persona) Blue Mary (if she counts) All better. He's still the best VF character though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:38:41 2017 No.3734259 File: 62 KB, 665x500, a1069401d39413d51507809146d8ce9b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3730485 >>3734256 Also Tsugumi Sendo from the shitty 3D Fatal Fury.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:42:55 2017 No.3734267
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Wolf Hawkfield was so popular, that an actual wrestling promotion, All Japan, got the rights to make him a real wrestler on their shows. SEGA Sound Team even gave him a custom made theme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:47:53 2017 No.3734269 >>3731391 Read up on how to play it from virtuafighter.com, find someone to play with, and enjoy your mind exploding. Have some footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTin8W6FR7I

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:53:23 2017 No.3734272 File: 11 KB, 200x200, awoos internaly.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he hates grapplers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:05:00 2017 No.3734292 >>3731391 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:15:34 2017 No.3734308 >>3734269 >literal super basic gameplay with zero depth LOL, yeah my mind was blown alright, blown by how anyone could be so shit at fighting games they thought this was impressive.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:16:50 2017 No.3734310

>>3734256
Personality-wise, I've always found VF characters flat and bland, so really every other fighter beats the old VF cast by far (especially since it was like a near copy of SF2). But it's all in the gameplay, and really, Wolf is a great character for his overall gameplay "feel".

Zangief is an iconic character and he set the blueprint for grapplers in 2D fighters. But that said, I've found that grapplers usually have to do WAY more work in SF than everyone else. Zangief is no exception, poor tovarisch is bottom tier in ST. I also hate 360 motions, I understand their appeal and depth but I still think they're just too annoying. After all these years, Zangi feels a bit too basic for me.

R.Mika is a character I never learnt to use properly in SFA3. My fault maybe, but she felt weak and needed more fleshing out imo. But hey, she had personality, design and tiddies.

Hugo is Zangief 2.0. An ugly, but very interesting character. Being an obvious rip off of Andre the Giant doesn't give him any points though. Still a nice evolution of Zangief's aged moveset, I feel he's very underrated in this regard. I loved those claps and clothesline moves.

For Clark see >>3730548

Shermie… Now I seriously tried to get into playing her, but frankly I think she's a bit lacking. She just had nothing new or special in '97 and '98—much of her movelist was the same ol' Clark, but her normals were pretty weird and slow. Worse movement, no air grab, and for this she gets what? That strange leg grab/anti-air?

Raiden… He appeared in too few games. Where he did, he really didn't feel like much.

Tizoc is bottom tier in Garou and it shows. Never got a feel for playing him.

Now Blue Mary is perhaps one of my favorite KoF grapplers. Unlike most grapplers, she has a good anti-air and even a quick ranbu super, making her one of KoF's better "hybrid" characters. She also has good mobility.

I'd actually add Vice to this list.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 20:59:37 2017 No.3734609 File: 875 KB, 1320x1002, VFaggots BTFO.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that even top vf plays say the game is not very technical and extremely simple.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 21:23:49 2017 No.3734647 >>3734157 >VF was for 3D fighters what Street Fighter 2 was for 2D ones I'd say it's more like Street Smart or Fighting Masters. Tekken was the SF2 for 3D fighters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 21:25:44 2017 No.3734652 >>3734647 Fucking tekken fanboys.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 21:54:28 2017 No.3734709 >>3734647 VF is recognized by everyone who doesn't have shit for brains as the most influential series in the genre. Tekken 1 was designed and directed by one of VF1's designers, Seichi Ishii, and the series remained mediocre until 5.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:04:34 2017 No.3734724

>>3734709
VF 2 and Fighters Megamix for the Saturn are some really complex game.
I was not expecting characters to have to many moves and combos. You wouldn't expect it but the Ninja could knock you around and throw you in the air then catch you with another move.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:09:30 2017 No.3734732 >>3734709 This is what brainless vf babies actually believe

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:10:38 2017 No.3734736 >>3734709 except Tekken 2 was the best selling and the most played 3D Fighting game ever, as the case with SF2.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:15:24 2017 No.3734742

>>3734724
>VF 2 and Fighters Megamix for the Saturn are some really complex game.
They arent, they are are extremely simple games

>I was not expecting characters to have to many moves and combos.
literally less than pretty much every other 3D fighting game, also they aren't "combos" they are stings

>ou wouldn't expect it but the Ninja could knock you around and throw you in the air then catch you with another move
This is literally something that exists in EVERY fighting game ever made.

The only people who think vf is a complex game are people who are utterly clueless and dont know anything about fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:18:21 2017 No.3734749 >110 Replies >27 Posters I see the virtua fighter samefag is still hard at work desperately trying to shill his dead game.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:21:45 2017 No.3734760

>>3734736
True, let's not pretend Tekken didn't copy VF's homework every year.

Despite Saturn's low sales, VF2 managed to sell about the same in Japan as Tekken 2 and 3 (~1.30 mln copies). VF still remains big in Japan, despite the last edition of VF5 is very old now.

It was the flop of Saturn and the decline of arcades that buried VF in the West, and propelled Tekken to fame there, as it was basically the best VF clone available on PS, which also was a bit more casual and fun.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:35:52 2017 No.3734795

>>3734760
>let's not pretend Tekken didn't copy VF's homework every year.
Funny because VF literally copied Tekken after every release

>VF2 managed to sell about the same in Japan as Tekken 2 and 3
No, no it didnt

>VF still remains big in Japan
no its not

VF is literally the most casual 3d fighting game on the market and it stole almost everything from other games, theres a reason why no one plays that second rate garbage.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:36:28 2017 No.3734797

>>3734749
I seriously wonder how can you be so demented. No really, you're the possibly the most mentally unstable anon currently on this board.

Getting this ass mad because of a "dead" game few even heard of in US requires some next level of idiocy. The game is barely even remembered in the West now, even FGC doesn't care about it. The few mentions it gets on /vr/ happen not more than once a month, get few replies and then the conversation usually dies.

But you, anon, act like Virtua Fighter killed your parents. To devote so much time to shitting on it, you need to seriously have some mental condition. Because to get this pathetic because of some game no one cares about, you have to be seriously antisocial.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:37:10 2017 No.3734801 Reminder Soulblade had 3d movement/sidestep before virtua fighter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:38:36 2017 No.3734805 >>3734797 Who are you trying to kid, like seriously?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:43:29 2017 No.3734812 >>3734801 Soul Edge you heathen

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:45:57 2017 No.3734819 File: 95 KB, 800x600, Battle-Arena-Toshinden-Playstation-Screenshot-Sofia-Win-Pose.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3734801

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:46:50 2017 No.3734823 >>3734812 Soulblade sounds much cooler, deal with it nerd

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:51:28 2017 No.3734827 >>3734819 That game too, as well a plethora of other games. even crap like ballz3d had 3d movement before virtua fighter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:55:36 2017 No.3734832 >>3734157 >VF was for 3D fighters what Street Fighter 2 was for 2D ones More like VF was to 3D fighters what Shaq-fu was to 2D fighters

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:57:55 2017 No.3734836 >>3734169 >Saturn emulation

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 22:59:41 2017 No.3734839 >>3733623 >look guys! here's a bug that can happen if you go out of your way to see it and will never actually happen in a regular match! >th-the game is broken trash! xD

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:00:58 2017 No.3734842
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>>3734742
>The only people who think vf is a complex game are people who are utterly clueless and dont know anything about fighting games.

Actually, the people who know the most about fighting games are exactly the people who think that VF is the most complex fighting game ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:03:11 2017 No.3734846 >>3733641 >More like how many features did VF steal from other 3D fighters Considering that there were no 3d fighters before the first VF, I'd say none.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:09:47 2017 No.3734849

>>3733564
It was more technical because it relied more on reading the opponent and being able to pull the right move in any situation, than your ability to memorize a 38 hit combos from a flowchart.

One right move at the right time could win you the game. Street Fighter didn't have that until SF4, and there they called it a QCFx2 PP Ultra Combo, while in VF it is forward, forward, punch.

VF is the most technical fighting game exactly because it is the most simple fighting game.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:12:28 2017 No.3734854

>>3734842
Is this vid from VF5? Doesn't seem so, but looks great. I almost thought they announced VF6 and got really excited, but of course they didn't.

KoFXIV looks worse than VF5 and I wish I was kidding or biased

On a side note, VF's flaw is that it's doesn't have any showing off.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:24:09 2017 No.3734870 [DELETED]

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>>3734842
Funny because the best VF player in the world said the game was brainless casual garbage compared to Street Fighter.

Lets be 100% real here, people who nut hug VF dont play fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:28:33 2017 No.3734871 File: 153 KB, 449x280, 138823634101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3734842 I like how the best you could do to show off VF's depth was a mashed dial a combo

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:32:36 2017 No.3734874

>>3734849
>It was more technical because it relied more on reading the opponent and being able to pull the right move in any situation
Literally LITERALLY every fucking fighting game ever created.

>One right move at the right time could win you the game. Street Fighter didn't have that until SF4
You are unbearably ignorant and clueless

>VF is the most technical fighting game exactly because it is the most simple fighting game.
I dont think you even understand what technical means at this point and you sure as shit dont know anything about fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:34:10 2017 No.3734876 >>3734846 VF is not even Sega's first 3D fighter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:41:48 2017 No.3734885 I can't tell who's trolling who anymore.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 23:58:19 2017 No.3734907

>>3734849
>One right move at the right time could win you the game. Street Fighter didn't have that until SF4, and there they called it a QCFx2 PP Ultra Combo, while in VF it is forward, forward, punch.

Ill just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7hkwbKmBM

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:56:11 2017 No.3734980 File: 610 KB, 820x1024, DarunMisterSFEX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Let's get back to grapplers Wrestling moves + random Indian words? G. O. D. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQa1iNEtVHM

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:12:19 2017 No.3734993

>>3732874
I remember the first time I saw it in the arcade. I cried myself to sleep that night knowing I would have to wait years for a console port. To put things into perspective, Tekken 3 came out a year later and still didn't look as good as VF2. I was crushed. The Dreamcast port wasn't terrible, but it was by no means arcade perfect. I think AM2 could have done a better job, but I guess they were busy working on Shenmue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:20:54 2017 No.3735002 >>3734876 You've piqued my interest. What was their first true 3d fighter?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 02:42:02 2017 No.3735080 >>3734267 Fun fact: in Giant Gram you could play as both VF Wolf and Real Wolf

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 02:44:16 2017 No.3735082 File: 536 KB, 320x240, MFW my jackass dad survives and throws me into a volcano.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >It's a /vr/ talks about fighting games episode

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 12:47:15 2017 No.3735582 >>3735082 /vr/ is even worse than /v/ when it comes to fighting games, its quite a feat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 13:09:05 2017 No.3735614 >>3735082 >>3735582 >it's a FGC autist fest episode

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 13:11:35 2017 No.3735615

>>3735582
>>3735082

>boards are a single person

Anyway, what are you complaining about? There's a lot of people with different opinions ITT, who are you addressing your disdain to?

If your answer is "all of them", then explain why and make your argument and stance, so we can judge you as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:24:09 2017 No.3735794 >>3734993 >I think AM2 could have done a better job, but I guess they were busy working on Shenmue. That and they were actually working on a Saturn port for VF3 that never released, the VF3 DC port was handled by some other group.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:09:58 2017 No.3736493 >>3730614 FX fighter, OMF battlegrouns, star wars masters of terras kasi, ravenloft blood and iron, thrill kill, pray for death, Bio FREAKS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 03:41:54 2017 No.3738909 >>3734980 That takes me back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 06:23:10 2017 No.3739059 How would you rank the VF series?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 10:38:04 2017 No.3739313 >>3739059 Casual garbage with zero depth

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 12:21:24 2017 No.3739404 >>3739313 I mean like: >1>2>5>4>3

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 12:30:37 2017 No.3739410 >>3739313 You still can't explain why.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 12:48:08 2017 No.3739437 >>3739404 Tekken > VF5 > VF4 > VF2 > VF1 > VF3

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 12:55:23 2017 No.3739445 File: 30 KB, 640x480, Kill_You.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3739437 >Tekken 1 better than VF2, 3, 4 and 5 Fucking Tekken shitposters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 13:03:42 2017 No.3739457 >>3739404 He hasn't played them anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 13:25:01 2017 No.3739480 >>3739404 4>2>3>1 I'm not sure where to place 5 2bh

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