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Anonymous Tue Jan 3 22:59:02 2017 No.3716132 [Reply] [Original]

Why isn't there an adapter to plug a good controller into the n64?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:15:28 2017 No.3716154 File: 64 KB, 485x461, hori-n64.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who needs an adapter when you could be using the hori pad, the greatest controller ever?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:34:03 2017 No.3716180 File: 7 KB, 240x240, 1424486786779.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3716154 $100 on amazon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:36:07 2017 No.3716186 >>3716180 Cheapest I see is $69 on Ebay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:41:52 2017 No.3716195 >tfw two hands feels bad man

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:47:18 2017 No.3716207 >>3716186 That's still fucking retarded. I could get a Chinese Everdrive 64 for that price.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:48:47 2017 No.3716212 >>3716207 I wasnt telling him to get one. Just stated the price. I wouldnt get that controller either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:52:46 2017 No.3716217 >>3716132 Most of the games on the n64 were tailor made for this abomination, super mario 64 basically needs that thumb stick else it feels really loose. There is a mod to put a gamecube style stick on there, but I've heard mixed things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 01:19:02 2017 No.3716334 >>3716154 Not with that awful button layout.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 01:24:55 2017 No.3716340 >>3716334 It's not that awful. Sure, the d-pad looks silly, but it's not a wide controller so you don't have to stretch your thumb far to reach it. Plus it feels fucking great in your hands.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 01:25:38 2017 No.3716343 >>3716154 didnt know fisher price made n64 controllers

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 01:34:38 2017 No.3716349 File: 32 KB, 600x399, 20040417j.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3716340 >it feels fucking great in your hands.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 23:33:43 2017 No.3718345

>>3716154
I'm glad there is some smart people here. I have 4 Hori Mini 64 controllers, and while they are expensive, you get everything you pay for. They are PURE quality. The best controller you could ever use for the N64 (assuming its not one of the few games that use the D-Pad as primary control)

To answer OP, search rahpnet for different adapters. They have some awesome adapters you could buy (I have a few). I believe there is a few for the N64 (I know there is one that allows you to use a gamecube controller for the N64)

So there are options. But if you can, seriously grab a Hori 64 controller. Its quality is unmatched.

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 02:25:54 2017 No.3718604

>>3716217
Gamecube-style replacement sticks can work a lot better if you use a replacement PCB for your stick (micro's PCB v3), but it's still not ideal. There's also several different versions of the Gamecube-style replacement sticks so your mileage may vary. Aside from that, some people have replaced their N64 analog sticks with PS2 ones. There's also a Lodgenet controller mod that I've heard is decent. Raphnet makes a pretty good Gamecube adapter, and there's a few different adapters for Xbox/360 controllers and keyboards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 02:40:17 2017 No.3718619 >>3716154 Where's the z button fit in on these bad jacksons?

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 03:02:26 2017 No.3718650

>>3716132
The fucking thumbstick feels so fucking comfy. Maybe it's nostalgia or crt monitors or the textured grip or the space you can swing it around and have it stand up to shit. Maybe it's the notches for the 8 directions they sorta kept on the gamecube controller too. I DON'T KNOW but all I remember is comfy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 03:25:11 2017 No.3718679 >>3718650 I think it's the friction Mario 64 feels wrong on any other analog stick

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 03:39:45 2017 No.3718695 >>3718619 It's like a L2/R2 set-up. You have a Z button on both sides. And the 'L1/R1' is your standard L and R button for the N64

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 03:43:59 2017 No.3718707

If you want a good alternative to the N64 stick that won't be a fucking disaster, get that $35 gamecube controller adapter.

>>3718604
Most GC-style replacement sticks are incredibly low quality. Haven't seen or used a good one in the dozens I've handled.

>>3718619
there are two Z-buttons, one on each shoulder.

>>3718679
>>3718650
n64 sticks were designed in a very specific way that wasn't really emulated again, mostly because of how fragile the sticks are. It's sort of designed like a pestle and mortar. The stick ends up wearing into the base of the analog contraption (for lack of a better word, I'm tired) and becomes loose. You can fill it back in, but it's a temporary fix. High quality replacements are possible but you start veering into this is retard expensive and not feasible for mass production territory so the style was never revisited.

I'd like to see more Saturn style analogs, magnetic resistance and meant to be thumb centered instead of a stick you push on the edges of.

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 11:29:41 2017 No.3719281
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>>3716154
I only have one of those. I was unable to afford more than one (and didn't think I'd need more than one, since everyone else had their own N64 controller) back then, but now I really cannot afford another one of the Hori Mini controllers. Unlike SNES, Genesis, Playstation, and Saturn, where I have plenty of replacement controllers if one were to break on me, I only have one Hori Mini, and now with its inflated price according to >>3716186 I am now scared to use it any more than I already have. To be honest, I have average sized hands and I find the Hori Mini controller even more cramped than a Dreamcast controller. It is great, but knowing everyone has monster hands preferring the Xbox Duke controller in my country, I have no clue how only the smallest of Japanese persons can use the mini.

>>3716132
Raphnet Technologies appears to have SNES to N64 as well as Gamecube to N64 adapters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 09:53:45 2017 No.3721131 >>3718695 Great, so you have to cross your fingers in basically every racing game where you drift with Z and R. Also Star Fox for rolls.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 13:31:59 2017 No.3721449 >>3721131 do you really suck that bad at video games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 17:48:54 2017 No.3721890 >>3719281 >being so poor you can't even dish out 70 bucks for a once in many years investment In typical 4chan style, I'm sounding sarcastic, though I don't mean to. That must suck. What do you do for a living?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 18:31:13 2017 No.3721971 File: 601 KB, 2592x1944, Stick_getting_looser_with_all_the_play.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3721890 I really cannot afford that, it is no secret. I flip burgers for barely over minimum wage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 20:56:40 2017 No.3722241 >>3721449 It's just a really shitty way to position your fingers. One on what would be R1 and the other on what would be L2, with DualShock button names in mind. And barely any N64 games used the L button anyway. It was almost always Z and R.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 21:11:07 2017 No.3722274 File: 579 KB, 250x220, insult_master.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3716343

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 21:12:32 2017 No.3722279 >>3722241 they could just add a switch that changes L1 to Z so for racing games or star fox the L1 works like your Z, and for other games like shooting games you can use L2/R2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 21:16:28 2017 No.3722286 >>3718707 What do you need "retard expensive", I've seen replacement gears going for like 20 cent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 21:18:07 2017 No.3722293 >>3721971 >colour your stock just went down

Anonymous Fri Jan 6 21:37:44 2017 No.3722348

>>3722279
So, with two R buttons and L/Z on the left. That would work.

Except if a game used the left and middle prongs of the controller only, but the only thing I remember with that setup was the Ekans minigame in Pokémon Stadium. And I think Bakuretsu Muteki Bangai-Oh might have had an input scheme like that. But for everything else, Z was basically what would have been the L button on other consoles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 01:11:44 2017 No.3722690 >>3716154 playing against someone using this for competitive smash is pretty brutal. huge advantage for that to be able to z cancel and use the joystick at a much faster rate

Anonymous Sat Jan 7 01:32:01 2017 No.3722706

>>3722690
It doesn't make a big difference for z-cancelling, but it does help taunt canceling, SDI, pivots, and dash dancing at the expense of making falling up-airs, walking, shield tilting, and low stick jumps harder. It also resets kind of forcibly which sometimes causes you to jump out of multishine if you're not careful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 04:11:38 2017 No.3722874 >>3716132 >le ebik n64 controller maymay All the good controllers for the N64 just plug straight in champ. >>3716154 Proof that even 20 years ago there were kids like you who couldn't figure out how to use an N64 controller.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 09:17:16 2017 No.3723130 >>3721971 >I flip burgers for barely over minimum wage. why? you can type coherently which is well beyond the limitations of the average retard. you should have a better job m80.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 11:17:13 2017 No.3723252 >>3723130 This. Mind fucking blown. Then again, I work for a god damned moving company and barely get by myself sometimes. But after seeing some of your collection, I just assumed you had dem dolla bills, y'all.

Anonymous Sat Jan 7 12:32:40 2017 No.3723370
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>>3722293
Oh no, my valuable 4chan stock, no!

>>3723130
"Should" to me is quite far from reality for a lot of things around me. If only my work doesn't drain me of energy, might I have the will to explore other opportunities. I at least get to try making the one orange-black with a loose stick better today while waiting on my laundry.

>>3723252
I feel your struggle. Having dem dolla dolla bills, would ease so much, but alas it is a far away dream.

I am so slow, takes so long for me to clean these.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 13:05:49 2017 No.3723428 >>3716132 Many Ocarina of Time speedrunners use Raphnet adapters to use GameCube controllers on their N64. They're pretty affordable, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 14:37:06 2017 No.3723574 >>3716132 Market forces I suppose. In other words they know nobody would buy it because, frankly, they're satisfied with the N64 controller.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 14:39:19 2017 No.3723582 >>3723370 Hey it's weird handwriting guy again! You should just get yourself a tripcode, the amount of notes you write.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 14:40:38 2017 No.3723586 >>3723370 >I am so slow, takes so long for me to clean these Last time I tried to fix one of he sticks I bent a wire too far and had to soder it back on. It was a terrifying and tedious experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 16:53:45 2017 No.3723846 >>3716132 >N64 controller >bad Oh sweet summer child.

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