/vr/ - Retro Games

sin and punishment 2 was pretty good

Astro Boy was actually really cool when it came out, if you happened to like Tezuka a lot

>>3706974
Not retro but astro boy omega factor is phenomenonal. I might even go as far to say the greatest license game ever made.

>>3707008
I've seen tons of people call this the best action game on the gba, sometimes the best gba game ever, and now the best licensed game ever. Is it pure Treasure fanboyism? I played it and it wasn't really that good, the combat got repetitive pretty fast and the visuals were ugly as is typical of a lot of Treasure games. I guess it's good in all the homage it pays to Tezuka's works, but not THAT much as a game.
It makes me sad because Dragon Ball Advanced Adventure is also a 2D platformer beat 'em up based on a classic manga series, and it's better than OF in every way, but nobody ever mentions it, opting to praise OF as the 2nd coming of christ instead.

>>3707210
>Dragon Ball Advanced Adventure
>but nobody ever mentions it
If it makes you feel any better, I have a friend who thinks it's fucking incredible.
I haven't gotten around to playing it yet, but it's contextually one of his highest rated games.

>>3707210
>the combat got repetitive pretty fast

It's hardly repetitive because the constant upgrades change the game all the time.

>and the visuals were ugly as is typical of a lot of Treasure games

I dunno, I think visuals are pretty good, pic related.

You just seem to have a hateboner for Treasure/have something personal against "Treasure fanboys".

Dragon Ball AA is indeed pretty great though, but I also see it being mentioned fairly often on GBA threads. Both are good games.

Polite sage for non-retro.

>>3706974
>shake shake shake
>shake shake shake
>shake shake shake

All the while, Richard Simmons is on my mind....

Fun game though.

Bangai-O Spirist was great

I mean there was slowdown everywhere but that's going to happen when you have that many missiles on screen

Gunstar Super Heroes was a let down for no weapon combinations but if you forget it's Gunstar it's a fantastic Run&Gun.

Point is, "The Last Good Treasure Game" isn't really a /vr/ subject

>>3707248
>muh Treasure-hating boogeyman
>muh autistic paranoia

>>3707569

The first one that started using a boogeyman were the ones talking about supposed "treasure fanboys". Eat it up.

People like Astro Boy because it's a great action game and is actually a pretty good licensed game, not because it's by treasure. Also, it's not 100% treasure, it was a collaboration with Sega's Hitmaker.

>>3706991
>>3706997

these

Best post-retro Treasure game coming through.

>>3707689

inb4 the guy who hates it because no Moai

>>3707248
I don't hate on Treasure in particular, and I don't think the game was awful or anything, I just don't think it deserves the "ultimate gba hidden gem" treatment it gets when it's not actually that good and there are much better gems out there.
Also I wanted to shill DBAA, it's a damn fun game.

>>3707689
I hate it because no Moai

>>3707689
Is it, dare I say it, the last great shmup ever made?

>>3707210
Original guy you're replying to.
>is it pure treasure fanboyism
It was my first treasure game and possibly my favorite. Of their selection the only other games I like are gunstar heroes and sin and punishment.
>visuals were ugly
Really? I hate treasure's art style, the art of gunstar heroes and mischief makers is terrible in my opinion. I love tezuka's style so luckily that's avoided here. Before playing this game I never had much interest in tezuka but this game single handedly got me into tezuka.

I love it a ton and I hate beat-em-ups. Omega factor is just a blast and the balance of beat-em-up and shump levels allows neither to get tiring.

>>3707734
>I hate treasure's art style
Nigga, you BEST not be hating on based HAN.

I'll let you know when they make their first good one.

>>3707689
Just wondering, what exactly is the relationship between Treasure and G.Rev?

This and Ikaruga gets a lot of love, but no one ever mentions G.Rev

>>3708061
>but no one ever mentions G.Rev
Pretty sure lots of people liked Border Down.

Also, didn't one of Treasure's guys work there for a little while?

>>3708071
>Border Down
What I meant is, I feel like people don't even know G.Rev worked on Gradius V or Ikaruga

And all I know about G.Rev is it's a lot of Darius staff or somethin

>>3708076
isnt it only 2 or 5 ppl i mean the whole studio or team?

>>3706974
Treasure games were always overrated shit that lacked proper polish and basic play testing. They were only overhyped by Sega fags who couldn't tell a good game if it bit them in their asses.

>>3708124
>lacked proper polish and basic play testing

Could you point out an example of this?

The only Treasure games that I think everyone agrees lack polish and feel unfinished/tech demos are the Tiny Toon GBA game, and Stretch Panic.

>>3708127
Trashure games are so incredibly shit jesus christ you'd have to be retarded not to see how bad they really are.

>>3708098
I honestly really don't know, I don't know who makes what and how many people are involved.

What happened to (You)'s?

Janitors are babysitting treasurefags.

>>3708152
When's that stupid faggot going to get fired already?

>shitposters crying because mods delete their shitposts again

Grow up, niggers.

If you wanna say Treasure suck, at least give valid points. You keep using ad hominem and nothing else.

>non shitposts getting deleted because they're critical of treasure
Treasurecucks, the worse fanbase on /vr/

>>3708179

>critical

Saying "trashure" or "it suxxx" isn't being critical, it's being childish, especially when you cry about your shitposts getting deleted.

Give valid points, and we could discuss like adults.

>>3708182
For one, their shmups are a highly casual blend of puzzle with milking mechanics but they still got overrated out of proportion by the likes of IGN.

>>3708194
>casual

What do you mean? I don't see people playing Ikaruga on their phones on the way home.

Also, how many shmups do they have? OK, Ikaruga and Radiant Silvergun have "puzzle" elements, but how is that a bad thing? You might not personally like it, but others do, big deal.

They don't have a lot of other shmups, Gradius V doesn't have any puzzle element as far as I remember, unless you can point me out an example.

>overrated out of proportion by the likes of IGN

You care about IGN reviews? Why?

>>3708201
Gradius V is overly long and overstays its welcome. Also there's too much emphasis on story.

>>3708206
It's been a long time since I played Gradius V, but the only plot moment is "I'm you, from the future"

Granted, that's the beginning of the 2nd level which means you'll see it everytime and I understand that's dumb, but I don't think that's too much

>>3708206

But I thought you said Treasure shmups had puzzle elements? Where are they on Gradius V?

And as >>3708210 said, the only "story" moment were like 10 seconds of cutscene on the second level, there could be more but I don't remember, probably because there wasn't really much of it. As for the length, I didn't think it was too long but even if it was, it's better it to be long that too short.

Still, you said Treasure games "lacked polish and play testing". Where is that? Point out examples, so far you only said that you personally don't enjoy puzzle elements, and that gradius V is "too long", but I fail to see lack of polish or play testing, the games work, and don't have any bugs.

Anti-Treasure cynics getting btfo in this thread.

>>3708238
I'm starting to believe it really is just Australia-kun butthurt that Treasure started making games on non-Sega consoles.

Treasure threads are the new Castlevania threads it seems.

>>3708316
What is the Super Castlevania Bros. of Treasure games?

>>3708410
Ikaruga seems to be the scapegoat of the anti-treasure guys, so probably that. Although the guy who worked on Castlevania IV did Gunstar Heroes and Bangai-O.

>that kid who timestopped to Treasurefag general

>>3708731
Meh, I'd rather play Rayman than that cheap knock off.

>>3708732
>Are you sure you want to leave Fuckman's world?

>>3707689
>not Wario World
WHAAAAA HAHAHAHAAAAAAA

>>3706997
Astro Boy Omega Factor was my introduction to Tezuka and it was perfect, the overall atmosphere was so much like his work.

>>3708076
I don't know what role they played in Ikaruga, but G.REV I think mostly handled backgrounds and graphics in Gradius V.

I have a sneaking suspicion they contributed some design expertise as well helping out relative shooter neophytes like Treasure (with their whole 2 shmups under their belt), but there's nothing to verify that.

My guess is that with Ikaruga it was also strictly graphical - G.REV (who is or was like 3 or 4 guys) basically were or are jobbers most of the time between cobbling a few yen together to make their own game. And their last was... Kokuga? Yikes; been a while.

>>3707734
It's sorta both fair and unfair at the same time to compare HAN's style to Tezuka's. On one hand both are going for a similar simple exaggerated look, on the other hand Tezuka is one of the most iconic artists ever as far as cartoony styles go. Still, as >>3707746 pointed out I think Shyna for example has a fantastic design.

I really liked the atmosphere of Omega Factor - it's been a long time since I last played it so I barely remember the story details, but I remember the experience feeling epic, surreal and equal parts melancholic and optimistic. Which is exactly what a lot of Tezuka manga is like.

>>3707734
It's sorta both fair and unfair at the same time to compare HAN's style to Tezuka's. On one hand both are going for a similar simple exaggerated look, on the other hand Tezuka is one of the most iconic artists ever as far as cartoony styles go. Still, as >>3707746 pointed out I think Shyna for example has a fantastic design.

I really liked the atmosphere of Omega Factor - it's been a long time since I last played it so I barely remember the story details, but I remember the experience feeling epic, surreal and equal parts melancholic and optimistic. Which is exactly what a lot of Tezuka manga is like. It's basically crossover fanfiction but it's great crossover fanfiction.

>>3711079
they made silvergun (their magnum opus shump) without g.rev's help, so i don't think they needed their design input really

>>3706974
>Never played this when the N64 was current even though N64 was muh console

>Have had it in my collection for a couple years now

>Still haven't played it

Maybe today's the day.

>>3711087

>that page

Hi no tori is really incredible, it blew my mind several times.
Omega Factor is like a re-telling of the original Astro Boy story but with lots and lots of guest participation by other Tezuka characters, which makes sense given his "star system".
Sharaku as the main villain was pretty awesome.

Genesis vs. GBA vs. N64 vs. Saturn

Which system had the best Treasure works?

>>3711317
>collecting
Wew

>>3711651
t.poorfag

>>3706997
Astro Boy is great, regardless. I knew jack shit about Tezuka, and the game was amazing.

>>3707210
I played it because I found it for 3 bucks in a bin of GBA games about 8 years ago. I didn't know anything about Astro Boy or Treasure, and the game was fucking excellent.

Not everything is a meme. You could just try playing it and formulate your own opinion.

>>3711656
I have games I haven't played too but I feel silly for it

>>3711725
I have a bit of a backlog, I work for a living and I have other things I want to do, movies to watch, books to finish porn to jerk off to.

So sue me.

>>3706974
Mischief Makers is fucking terrible. There is not a single good Treasure game. Stop being a tumblr memelord.

>>3711382
I've only read the first 2 parts and I've not seen the any of the Rintaro OVAs yet; part 1 was kinda alright story-wise but worth reading for the inventive drawings & paneling alone and part 2 might be the most thought provoking writing I've seen from Tezuka so far. His other stuff can be clever in various ways, like using allegories to give people a fresh look at real-world issues (ex. robot president arc in Astro Boy, the Strongest Robot arc) but Phoenix v2 actually made me think about my general views of existence itself and that's fucking amazing for a shonen manga with Popeye inspired designs and silly comedy like this in it.

It also perfectly embodies the "melancholic but optimistic" feeling I got from Omega Factor.

>>3712030
Here's your dotted line.

>janitor deletes posters bashing Treasure's games
>doesn't delete the posters who posted non-retro games
gg

>>3712083
I love when you faggots cry about your shitposts being deleted.

>>3711317
Okay... Just stopped trying to uhhh... "play" Mischief Makers. Clearly I have fallen for some sort of meme..

I mean, what the fuck are you even supposed to DO? Collect all the gems in any given stage?

I got stuck at the... Amusement park? Because the balls that are supposed to bounce you around a stage are unresponsive as fuck and you rarely go the direction you're pointing... The warp gate won't open...

Seriously, what the fuck is the POINT? It sure as shit isn't "fun".

>>3712087
Yes, it must feel great to be part of the groupthink.

>WHAT? He doesn't like Treasure?!
>SHITPOSTER!! SHITPOSTER!! SHITPOSTER!!

>>3712186

Getting used to controlling Marina may take a bit, but come on it's not that hard.
Also, collecting games is not the point of the game. You want to collect all the golden gems though (1 per level), but it's not mandatory for your first playthrough, and you can come back to past levels later.

You got stuck on the third level? Really? shake shake, nig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agSA2kT9yxI

>>3712194


The post that was deleted was a shitpost though. "hurr durr all treasure games suck!!"

If you just say you don't like treasure, or better yet, give reasons, your post won't get deleted.

>>3712201
Just admit you want /vr/ to be your personal echo chamber.

>>3712196
Clearly it's more of a puzzle sort of game then I thought it'd be.

I was expecting more... Beating shit up I guess?

>>3712206

It depends on the stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5Er7voW60

>>3712205

I'm not the one going around all threads of stuff I don't like shitposting my opinions and then crying the mods delete them, so no.

>>3712205

You know, if you actually discuss the issues you have with the games or the company, your posts won't get deleted and we could have a nice discussion.

Until then, I'll continue hoping you fucking neck yourself already.

>>3712201
>>3712205
The post said "gb2tumblr memefag if you think treasure games are good"

I like funny ironic shitposts and critical seriousposts but that shit was just spam dude.

>>3706974
I grew up with this game and still love it, but now that I can play practically all their shit I gotta admit both Bangai-O and Sin & Punishment are way better.

>>3712201
>If you just say you don't like treasure,
Let's just say casual games masquerading as hardcore don't interest me.

>>3707727
No. At the very least Muchi Muchi Pork counts for something.
>inb4 it panders to otaku sexfiends so it must suck

PROTIP to people playing Mischief Makers, double tapping the dpad makes you dash faster than using the C buttons. This will come in handy in the olympics race level.

>>3712186
>Because the balls that are supposed to bounce you around a stage are unresponsive as fuck and you rarely go the direction you're pointing
I truly have no idea what you are doing wrong. To fling yourself off stationary objects you need to "throw" them in the opposite direction of where you want to go. It makes perfect sense wrt direction of force.

>>3712794

It will still take you days of furious mashing to get the fucking gold crystal, though. That last one-tenth of a second is a no-good dirty goddamn son of a bitch.

If only there was even one good Treasure game.

>>3712886
>>3712794

pro tip: use the music as a metronome so that you know exactly when to start.
Good luck.

>>3712963
You mean like most of their games?

>>3707689
PS2 is NOT RETRO,

>>3713123
Fuck off sperg

>>3713126
It's not though

>>3713136
Yes it is you stupid useless fuck.

>>3713117
I love that the buttblasted idiot mods are removing anyone that expresses the truth about Treasure games. Such pathetic and immature people. Continue your circlejerking about Treasure, man-children. It doesn't change reality.

>>3708076
>>3708098
>>3708150
They recently worked on Touhou Genso Rondo. Check this documentary out you get to see the G.rev "office"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHhkq7p3Qw

FUCK maegawa and FUCK treasure games

>>3714374

lewd

Holy shit, I've never seen a thread so heavily moderated in bias. Accept it, janitor. You have shit taste and you're wielding your "power" like a five year old that was just made hall monitor in a high school. Treasure sucks and you're a dick.

>>3715146
Differing opinions are NOT allowed on /vr/. Everything must be an echo chamber of agreement in accordance to the mod and janitor's personal opinions.

>>3715146

>he thinks there's only 1 janitor

Your posts get deleted because mods already got your IP locked and you keep posting the same shit over and over

>treasure sucks

Nobody cares about your opinion, but get ready for your shitpost getting deleted, I'll enjoy your tears.

>>3715153
>>3715146

If what you're saying was true, then why wasn't this post deleted?: >>3707210

It talks about "treasure fanboyism" and calls Treasure games ugly, but since he's actually giving arguments, as opposed to just "treasure sucks!", his post was not deleted.

learn from him, you want to bash Treasure, for whatever reason? Do it with arguments, even if they're flawed, at least try. Lazily posting "sucks, shit, treasurefags" will only result in mods deleting your shit and your ass getting, once again, hurt.

Think before posting. You're not little kids anymore.

>there are people who dedicate hours, days even weeks of their lives to shitpost against a company they don't like, possibly due to brand loyalism reasons

>>3715163
My favorite developer > your overrated developer

>>3715163
>having shitty tastes in companies and reaction images
wew

>>3715193

As long as the reaction image can generate a (You), it's good enough.

>wew

Nice meme speak.

>>3715180
>>3715193

I like how you ignored my post: >>3715159
and only went for the bait one.

Really shows your IQ level.

>3715207
Stay butthurt you didn't get a (You), kiddo.

>>3715156
>he doesn't know how moderation works
>he thinks mods deleting stuff just because they disagree is a good thing

>>3715159
>he thinks anyone on this board is older than 12

>>3715163
>he thinks treasure isn't just another run of the mill production factory that puts out completely forgettable and generic games that don't matter

>>3715468
What are some games that the Treasure Haters approve of?

Treasuredrones can be categorised into two types of shitposters:

Shitposter A: the Nintendildo. Has only played Mischief Makers and Wario World on the Wii e-shop and thinks they're the best games ever. Never leaves his comfort zone. Very nostalgic memories of Nintendo, and little else.

Shitposter B: the Segaspie. Thinks the Sega Mega Drive is the greatest gift to mankind. Worships the fuck out of Gunstar Heroes and Alien Soldier, despite being mediocre run 'n gun shooters, to put it politely. Thinks Ikaruga is the greatest shump of all time because IGN told him so. Will get laughed out of belt scroller threads for liking/praising Guardian Heroes.

>>3715537
Treasure Haters can be categorised into two types of shitposters:

Example A - the console fanboy jealous that his console didn't receive any great Treasure games and has to play them emulated either on his computer or non-retro systems.

Example B - the arcade elitist who thinks he's too good to play Treasure games and can't explain with facts why Treasure games are inferior to his favourite arcade games.

>>3715537

>because IGN told him so

go back to your containment board, shitposter.

>>>/vg/164368812

>>3715660
>knowing of /vg/'s cancer in the first place
pot, kettle, etc.

Treasuredrones can be categorised into two types of shitposters:

Shitposter A: the Nintendildo. Has only played Mischief Makers and Wario World on the Wii e-shop and thinks they're the best games ever. Never leaves his comfort zone. Very nostalgic memories of Nintendo, and little else.

Shitposter B: the Segaspie. Thinks the Sega Mega Drive is the greatest gift to mankind. Worships the fuck out of Gunstar Heroes and Alien Soldier, despite being mediocre run 'n gun shooters, to put it politely. Thinks Ikaruga is the greatest shump of all time because IGN told him so. Will get laughed out of belt scroller threads for liking/praising Guardian Heroes.

OH SHIT janny's on a mass pruning spree, watch the FUCK out niggas.

can someone explain the autism some people have against Treasure on this board?

I could understand if it happened with other small developers that people praised, if it was a general thing, I could understand it as it being some people just being contrarian and that's it, but why is this autism specifically condensed in Treasure?

You barely see people discussing Treasure anymore, the last time I saw people mentioning Treasure in this board was people posting that one pasta about "treasurefags divided in 2 categories" and the like.

What happened? what did I miss?

Anti-Treasurefags are the scum of the Earth.

>>3715723
Advanced autism treading into uncharted territory.

>>3715751

I can't even be angry at them, I just don't get it.
Why the persistence? It's obvious their shitposting is not welcome and deleted all the time, it's obvious they don't have arguments to present to form actual discussions. All they (or he) does is keep posting the same pasta over and over, only to get it deleted, then complain about the janny, and the cycle repeats.
It's sad.

I wonder why did they choose Treasure, of all developers or /vr/ subjects, as their one scapegoat.

>>3715723
Treasure fanboys claiming all their games are good or that they're a perfect and innovative company is the reason for the backlash.

>>3715761

So it's just you getting angry that other people enjoy stuff?

Also, can you show me an example of said "treasure fanboys" saying all their games are perfect? Use the archive if you must, because I don't see anyone in this thread doing it.

Treasuredrones can be categorised into two types of shitposters:

Shitposter A: the Nintendildo. Has only played Mischief Makers and Wario World on the Wii e-shop and thinks they're the best games ever. Never leaves his comfort zone. Very nostalgic memories of Nintendo, and little else.

Shitposter B: the Segaspie. Thinks the Sega Mega Drive is the greatest gift to mankind. Worships the fuck out of Gunstar Heroes and Alien Soldier, despite being mediocre run 'n gun shooters, to put it politely. Thinks Ikaruga is the greatest shump of all time because IGN told him so. Will get laughed out of belt scroller threads for liking/praising Guardian Heroes.

>>3715758
One of the easiest ways for shitposters to get results is by going after something well-liked by most of the board. As for the persistence, never doubt the power of autism. To these posters, laughing at their own repetitive jokes and the responses to them feels like the best blowjob imaginable.

>>3715790

You'd think if they really wanted the "waaahhhh!!! janitor is abusing power!!! triggered safe space!!!" to be at all effective, they wouldn't chimp out and repost low-effort copypastas the moment someone gave them the boot.

>>3715795
That's why they've resorted to falseflagging as radical Treasure fans so they can justify shitting on them and the company.

>>3715771
>Also, can you show me an example of said "treasure fanboys"

Endless praising of Ikaruga in shmup discussions, Guardian Heroes in belt scroller discussions, Alien Soldier in run 'n gun discussions, Sin & Punishment in rail shooter discussions, and so on, along with shitting on games that aren't near the quality of said games according to them.

>>3715820
For the last year, the only "discussion" of Ikaruga I've seen on this board is either people whining about it being a "hipster pleb babby casual reddit IGN" game, or "ironic" retards pretending it's the best game ever.

>>3715820

Can you give me actual examples? You insisting that treasure fans say this or that isn't proof.
All I'm seeing on this thread is people discussing treasure games in a civil way (without ever mentioning things like "best ever" or "perfect") until the anti-treasure brigade of 1 or 2 guys arrived and started throwing the stale pasta, then crying mods deleted them, and all that jazz.

>>3715723
They just make video games that range from average to unplayably bad, but /VR/ memebois shriek like howler monkeys about them and elevate them to a level of quality they don't deserve, so they can fuel their superiority complexes. Then they silence anyone who dares disagree with the shitposting hivemind. Basically, /r/truegaming leaked into /VR/ a long time ago and the cancer metastheicsed.

>>3715795
>Straw Manning this hard

>>3716108
Guaranteed that the Treasurefags are Redditors.

>>3716108
>>3716124
so you have no argument

got it

>>3716146
Fuck off, trashurecuck.

>>3716108

Which Treasure games are unplayably bad?

>but /VR/ memebois shriek like howler monkeys about them and elevate them to a level of quality they don't deserve

Any example of this? I haven't seen anyone treat Treasure like gods, a lot of people enjoy their games, but I don't see the supposed "overrating" that anti-treasure guys talk about. If you can point me out to a post that is like this, I'd be thankful.

>Then they silence anyone who dares disagree

Then why hasn't this post been deleted: >>3707210?

According to you, mods delete every post that talk about Treasure negatively, but I think this isn't the case.
The only posts that get deleted are the ones that are obvious shitposting, such as "treasure is shit!"
Maybe if the anti-treasure guys didn't force their hateboner so much, mods wouldn't mind, but I guess at this point they just consider it spam, and understandably so.

give proper arguments as to why you don't like Treasure, and your posts won't get deleted.
Ad-hominem like "treasurefags" aren't arguments, by the way.

>>3716153
Doesn't happen here, but on /v/, Mischief Makers gets fellated hard by the kids that grew up on N64. And it's not even one of Treasure's better games.

>>3716158

>but on /v/

Then why do we have to put up with your "revenge shitposting" if it doesn't happen on this board?

man, anti-treasure guys are stupider than I thought.

It's been months since I started monitoring Treasure threads on /vr/, and so far not a single actual argument from the detractors, it's always just "treasurefags this", "treasurefags that".

You guys really need to stop caring about other people's tastes, it just makes you angry, you gain nothing from getting angry because other people enjoy things you do not. You care way too much.

>>3716159
Guess because people will lump Treasure fans in with the shitty ones they've met, so they'll get triggered by even just seeing the word Treasure.

>>3716197

I still don't think that's true at all, unless they can show me a /v/ thread where they treat Treasure games as "the best ever/perfect", I'll keep thinking there are WAY worse fanbases out there: Sonic, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Castlevania, you name it.

Why do they choose to center on hating Treasure? Just because IGN praised Ikaruga that one time 15 years ago?
I dunno, seems weird.

>>3711087
Original guy you're replying too.

HAN's style is just unappealing in my opinion. I like some designs like the generic enemy soldiers but the features are just too weird. I know its a wacky anime style but things like the eyes and the stick limbs are just not appealing. Just my opinion.
>>3711382
Sharaku is pretty great, Rock was good as well. Rock is probably Tezuka's most dynamic and interesting character. His various levels of evil in all his manga is real memerable.

>>3716351
I forgot to say the soldier in gunstar heroes.

Mischief Makers is amazing. Some of the best movement mechanics in a 2d platformer post-Super Metroid.

I don't even know if I've played any other Treasure games.

>>3716892
It is really good and feels nice when it works. But I feel the N64 controller is not really well made for those 2D platforing commands. I dont knof if its because the D-pad is a bit stiff or what. Sometimes I have trouble getting out, what I want to do, which doesnt happen to me in other 2D-plattformers on other systems.

>>3717342

The N64's d-pad is just a SNES d-pad. The reason it's stiff is because you haven't used it enough (understandable since most N64 games didn't use it).
A brand-new SNES controller's d-pad also feel stiff.

>>3706974
see: >>3706991

>>3706974
S&P2 was fantastic ya cunt.

>>3717758
What happened to "We don't make sequels to our IPs" ~Masato Maegawa?

>>3706974
They're all complete trash

>>3717768
inb4 ban

>>3717768
>>3717774
read:

>>3716164

>>3717794
>demanding constructive criticism on 4chan

That's where you fucked up, kiddo.

>>3717350
I dont feel that way. The N64 D-pad sticks out more and the material is a bit different. maybe more enduring but the feel of using a SNES and a N64 d-pad is definitely not the same. I think something about going to diagonals on SNES just feels more natural/easy.

>>3717826
you know, you're right about the n64 d-pad sticking out more, however it compensates by having a sort of cavity surrounding it (as opposed to the SNES which is flat).
But it still works just fine for me, doesn't feel different to do diagonals than on SNES.