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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>3692385

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1467/42/1467421002740.png
Doom download: https://yadi.
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1476/78/1476783249877.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent



irc.zandronum.com #vr (key in faq)




>> No.3696531

=== NEWS ===

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March; now is a good time to mirror any Doom-relevant files available through this

[12-24] Xaser has released a beta of a new map, dead.air

[12-24] Return to Ruins, a new mini-episode for Powerslave/Exhumed AND mapping documentation!

[12-22] Xeotroid released his cover of the TNT soundtrack

[12-21] Intermission, a Doom/Retro FPS podcast by Term and friends, wraps up the year with E1M8

[12-20] QUMP formalized; get mapping!

[12-19] DUMP 3 weapons finally finished!

[12-19] Arcane Dimensions 1.5 Patch released

[12-18] PortaDoom Alpha 2 released; a HUGE portable WAD collection in 90's disk-zine format

[12-16] A keyboard with displays on each key can run Doom

[12-16] DOOM-Crusher released; this tool can recursively optimize and reduce file sizes of your WAD and PK3 files

[12-12] DOOM Resurrected, a documentary series about Nu-Doom by Noclip, is being released in parts

[12-10] The 13th Cacowards were announced in celebration of Doom's 23rd birthday!


PROTIP: If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

>> No.3696541
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it's time

>> No.3696542

Full Noclip interview with Mick Gordon: https://youtu.be/Bthei5ylvZ4

>> No.3696545

the canonical ending to doom is that it's all a dream

>> No.3696546
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Happy Christmas, people.

>> No.3696548

Your wife's son is all a dream.

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my qump entry

is 1% complete

>> No.3696551

>the demons collapsed the temple on top of doomguy
>he was trapped and not able to kill

>> No.3696552

I will forever chuckle at "wife's son"

>> No.3696562

that was probably the ending that carmack was planning

>> No.3696567

is it just me or is vanilla doom more fun than playing with any mods?

>> No.3696569
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Ammo pickups for Booty are all finally done.

I'm not really an artist and the sprites could be polished up a lot, but they all look quite distinct from each other, so I'm happy.

>> No.3696571


I think both are fun

>> No.3696572

Moonman Doom really makes Doom 2 better.

>> No.3696573

Doom 1 maybe.

>> No.3696575

Merry Christmas you wonderful fags!

>> No.3696576

Merry Christmas, fellow faggots.
Everyone's favorite edgy French weeaboo made another mod.


This is going to be a glorious trainwreck.

>> No.3696580 [DELETED] 

brutal doom is for people who enjoy watching their wives being fucked by other people

>> No.3696581

I really like mods a lot, but sometimes it's just nice with some vanilla gameplay, it still holds up pretty well.

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I'm terrified, but curious.

>> No.3696585

>I'm not really an artist
You're not? Your stuff looks really tight for one that doesn't into art.

>> No.3696586 [DELETED] 


wtf, I'm uninstalling right now

>> No.3696590 [DELETED] 
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jokes on you, I'm virgin

>> No.3696591

what are some mods that really make you think?

>> No.3696593 [DELETED] 


>> No.3696596
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>the eotech sight on the gun

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>> No.3696598 [DELETED] 

people who play brutal doom aren't old enough to get married

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>> No.3696603

I'm not even mad.
I just feel sorry for him.

>> No.3696604


>> No.3696607
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im making a Hercules weapons mod.

>> No.3696608

>Jimmy played through all of it
Poor guy

>> No.3696612

Can anyone point me at a wad that gives all the demons a santa hat?

>> No.3696613

It's not bad that he cut it out of a screenshot.
It's bad that he cut it out of a screenshot with no thought, no editing, and no effort.

It literally looks like a paper cutout on screen.

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>> No.3696623

It sounds like a .wad made by a 12 year old who frequents /v/ and/or reddit.

>> No.3696648

doom 3 takes place before doom 1

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Sorry for shit quality, I don't have Fraps on this laptop and I haven't configured OBS too well yet.
I was thinking of streaming some mapping some day... And playing .wads I guess.

It's good stuff, don't sell yourself too short.

>> No.3696656


DOOM 3 is in its own continuity, and shouldn't be considered any more canon to DOOM than some random unrelated game.

>> No.3696663

Baby steps

>> No.3696665


>> No.3696672 [DELETED] 

no that's hdoom. youre literally watching waifus get fucked by doomguy

>> No.3696675

Yeah, I know - that's something I gotta touch later on. Add some foliage or something.

>> No.3696676 [DELETED] 

but you can self-insert so your argument is invalid.

>> No.3696679 [DELETED] 

you could say that about literally anything

>> No.3696680 [DELETED] 

Trying to poison the well with memes, huh?

>> No.3696697

Moonman doom

>> No.3696703
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Underground water cave section. I swear I will use more textures

>> No.3696706

I have a question:
Why can't you put a room above a room in DooM?

>> No.3696712

Because DooM-maps are essentially 2d.

>> No.3696714

Playable spaces just can't overlap other playable spaces. It's just how the engine was originally built.

This was redressed in Marathon and BUILD, to varying extents, and source ports have allowed both the shoehorning in of 3D geometry and the ability to "fake it" by stitching two separate spaces together via portals.

>> No.3696719

Definitely make that middle section, or at least the pillars, that more diluted brown rock texture, it'll help to keep it from blending in with the cavern walls.

>> No.3696723

because doom isn't a 3d game

>> No.3696726

Completely new to this stuff here, what sourceport should I get? I just want to play the original wad in singleplayer.

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>> No.3696730

Every time I see this, I "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" to myself.

>> No.3696731

zdoom is alright i guess

>> No.3696736

don't listen to anyone else

use prboom+

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>> No.3696738


>> No.3696739

don't listen to anyone else

use doom retro

>> No.3696740

are you kidding me

>> No.3696742

Have you looked at the So You Want To Play Some Fucking Doom image?

>> No.3696745

gzdoom. use zdoom with the qzdoom mod if gzdoom lags

>> No.3696746


There's a lot of ways to play Doom, dude.
"I just want to play the original wad in singleplayer" is like trying to decide on an ice cream flavor and your criteria is "I want it to taste sweet".

>> No.3696748


if you want the most features download gzdoom

>> No.3696749

A long time ago

>> No.3696756

I will. Thanks for everyone who replied, I guess.

>> No.3696758

GZDoom if you want a bunch of shitty features nobody needs.
Chocolate, Crispy or PrBoom+ if you want to play it how its supposed to be.

>> No.3696770

yeah play 240p have-to-make-shortcut-files-just-to-play-a-not-even-limit-removing-map-pack doom to appease some autist on vr

>> No.3696773

Is Ultimate Doom on Steam any good? It's like 1$

>> No.3696775

You shouldn't be buying Doom on Steam.

>> No.3696778

just pirate it http://doom4ever.free.fr/download_wads.htm none of the original devs are making money off of it anyway

>> No.3696779

Why would you buy doom?
Nobody gives a fuck if you pirate it.
Nobody cares

>> No.3696780

have half life 2 mods gotten as good as they were for half life 1 yet?

>> No.3696781

Where is that music from?

>> No.3696783

No because HL2 sucks shit compared to HL1.

>> No.3696786

it doesn't though, it's great, it's just different you fucking bigot

>> No.3696787

It's 'Metal Gear Solid'-remix of Lower Brinstar from Super Metroid, arranged by King Meteor.

>> No.3696789


>GZDoom if you want a bunch of shitty features nobody needs

speak for yourself buddy

>> No.3696790

the real problem is the sdk is anus

>> No.3696791

Is it in midi?

>> No.3696792

Fuck this autist. GZ has most of the top-tier gameplay mods.

>> No.3696794

wew lad

>> No.3696795

I wouldn't say HL2 is bad, I think it has some good qualities to it, and some fun gameplay, but the levels are not even close to as good as in HL1

>> No.3696801
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t. plays with max gamma

>> No.3696804

The guy asked about playing vanilla doom. There's no reason to use GZDoom for that.

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>> No.3696807

ive never actually used it. is it it's own sourceport?

>> No.3696808

Yeah. You can find it from VGMusic (newest additions page)

>> No.3696809


you can play vanilla doom with gzdoom

fucking autistics

>> No.3696812

For being so dumb you can't understand that Doom isn't 3d?

>> No.3696813


>> No.3696815
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What's the problem anon?

>> No.3696817

Play Zandro if you want a not-as-good-but-has-easy-multi GZDoom

Play ZDaemon if you like gamma rape and vanilla

>> No.3696818

>environments have volume
>height and angles
>you can even fall from heights
It's a three dimensional world, the rendering is just 2D.

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I don't understand what you're talking about, it looks fine.

>> No.3696824

top kek

>> No.3696825

it's 2d that looks 3d, but it's still 2d

>> No.3696832


don't forget to play at 320x200, 8 bit color and 15 fps

>> No.3696835

The world is three dimensional.

>> No.3696849

Today's Wadspiration:
Doomguy goes through his typical bullshit of demonslaying. He somehow ends up on fuckin' mata-nui.

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>the world is 2D

>> No.3696858


only in raycasting sourceports

>> No.3696862

what's the original doom fps cap?

>> No.3696863
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What's so funny? This is The Way The Developers Intended (tm)

>> No.3696881

Our world is 11D, but it looks 3D, so we call it 3D.

>> No.3696883
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it's like staring at the fucking sun

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Its almost Christmas

and Term will never update Dreadnought after The Booty project :(

>> No.3696889

What song was playing in Angry Anna level 4 i think (the one with the motorcycle ride)

>> No.3696890

Floors have height. Your argument is invalid.

>> No.3696919

>Demonsteele will never get player sprites that isn't 3D Custom Girl rips
Feels bad man

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i made a thing

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how about some drla

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>> No.3696978


but I like brutal doom

>> No.3696980

what is that?

>> No.3696985
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>that everything

>> No.3696997

>That demonic looking gun
hoy fuck what

>> No.3697015

Is this Supplice or Recurring Nightmares? I have a feeling it's one of the two.

>> No.3697026

Oh hi doomguy.

>> No.3697042
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I don't know. What do you guys think?

It's gonna animate faster in game but Aseprite only lets me export at a default speed, I think at least

>> No.3697045


I did not pet the cacodemon, it's not true! It's bullshit! I did not pet it!
I did NOT. Oh hi, Doomguy.

polite sage as this is a shitty post

>> No.3697052

He like yo Doomguy you forgot your popcorn in the microwave come get it

>> No.3697059

What is there to update?

>> No.3697062

It wasn't meant to provoke a Room related quote, but I'm glad that you did it anon.

>> No.3697068


I think you should fucking take Christmas off. Same with the rest of our content creators.
Sit back, drink a beer, fuck your gf/masturbate, play a game you like, have some chocolate.

>> No.3697069

I'm no expert but, it it kinda looks too "sci-fi", and a bit weird, how it's a recktangle shape. maybe make it like an extended oval thing that covers the whole sword and have a "shwing" at the end of the animation.
what i'm saying is the rectangle shape just looks unnatural

>> No.3697105

I am probably making sort of unsubtle switch-hunt in my current map. Castle-map had it, but I don't think I am gonna finish it.

Already did that. Visited (dying) grandmother and some graves too.
Got Christmas spirits high.

>> No.3697109

>/v/ and/or reddit
There's a difference?

>> No.3697113
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Oh for fucks SAKE.

>> No.3697120

(You)'s vs +1

>> No.3697131
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>> No.3697136

He's right though, the place's infested.

Honestly, the filters is the least offensive thing in that picture.

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I will probably delete everything

>> No.3697148

looks homosexual

>> No.3697153


that's good or bad?

>> No.3697156

he's saying he'd fuck it, in other words
looks sexy dude, keep it up.

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>> No.3697162

can I import 3d models into trenchbroom?

>> No.3697205


what else is left from prime and Metroid 2 and SM/Metroid3?

i could try and make some hand rips for her zero suit and maybe portrait, but i dont have SFM installed

>> No.3697209


Mostly just cosmetic stuff, I guess. Replacing the biosuit pickup with the hazard shield from Prime 3 and having charging animations for the arm cannon like in all the Prime games comes to mind for me.

>> No.3697236
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>tfw you forget your steam-login and old email password after 5 years of automatic log-in but steam support won't send me my password
feels good man, I wasted too much time on tf2

>> No.3697278

>tfw finally being free

I asked this on the last thread: How can I see how the light is working on Trenchbrom?

I remember the old Unrealed and that texture mode/light mode, but nothing like this in TB. Should I use a second editor so I can have extra tools?

>> No.3697495
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merry xmas Dewm /vr/ and community


some anon came up with the idea of replacing her sprites with scaled SNES ones, but those doesn't have full 360º she needs only her back + back turning and walk sprites

>> No.3697501

I'm bored so I'm bumping my question

I enjoyed it even though it's retarded

>> No.3697507

What would be the best retro console for me?

I hate RPG's games

I hate pokemon games.

I hate the legend of zelda games

I hate war video games.

I hate shooting games.

I do not like games where there are deaths.

I like realistic and legal racing games.

I like FIFA games

I like Madden NFL games.

And I only play video games rated E for everyone in the ESRB

>> No.3697513

So let me get this straight about Descent ports. Comparing them to Doom source ports:
>DXX-Rebirth is more-or-less like GLBoom+
>D2XL is like Doomsday, but it runs the first game on the second game's engine.

Did I get this right?

>> No.3697514

x-com ufo defense

>> No.3697517

Brutal Doom.

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>> No.3697547

Merry Christmas /doom/, here's a thing I made 2 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu9AVhLPFbM

>> No.3697587


buy a simon

>> No.3697605

Anyone got comfy episode length WADs?
D1 preferred, super comfy

>> No.3697639

>the absolute very first fucking thing people do with the cyberdemon model rip from the new game is FNAF porn

what kind of ancient god we pissed off to deserve this?

quick, give me some eyebleach, post cute cacodemons

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>spend hours learning Doombuilder 2
>even made a demo map
>have a whole map idea drawn out
>this was like, late 2015
>fucked off and left it all
>now considering coming back to it

It must be how an artist felt leaving a studio with work half finished everywhere and coming back, taking sheets off everything and wondering what his thought process was at the time.

>> No.3697651

D2X-XL also has a bunch of fancy GL effects and such, also the development versions almost have had problems and weird graphical glitches for me.
If I had to compare it to anything, it'd be more like GZDoom than anything else.
DXX-Rebirth is somewhere between Chocolate and PRBoom+, more accurate to vanilla but with a modern renderer for modern systems.

While Descent is a subject, has anyone gotten D2X-XL multiplayer working? DXX supposedly works like a charm (I haven't tried), but D2X never has for me on multiple occasions.

>> No.3697653

Any snowy Doom wads?

>> No.3697679

if those christmas hats bothers you add http://s.4cdn.org/image/xmashat.gif as a custom filter in adblock

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>> No.3697686

wait what

no seriously i want to know the context.

why would cyberdemon fuck screaming robit?

>> No.3697732
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Sweet Christmas!

>> No.3697748

Merry Christmas to you too

>> No.3697825
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Done and done, señor.

You feel that? That feeling you get after deleting a huge chunk of your map and starting to rebuild it, except better?

That feeling is weakness leaving the body. Keep going! Cut and rebuild!

Second thing. First thing was image.

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I plan on it, and ultimately I've decided to go back to the drawing board for this transformation animation.

I'll work on it tomorrow. Merry christmas you guys

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>what kind of ancient god we pissed off to deserve this?

The great god Kek, of course.

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>> No.3697840

Absolutely terrifying.

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Way to fuck it up OP

>> No.3697854

Why did the cacodemon become the face of doom?

>> No.3697856

Cause it's a big smiling circle with horns that putters around shooting laser balls at you. People think it's iconic and/or cute.

>> No.3697879

classic episode.
there really need to be more episode-length wads, they're gr8

>> No.3697889
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What's a good way to signal a "point of no return"?

I got a sign saying "one way" or "no return" or shit like that.

>> No.3697893

A convenient cookie crumb trail of health, armor, rocket ammo and cells leading into an entrance framed by hanging and impaled corpses and other carnage.

>> No.3697896

Yeah I've seen that done often, that can be a good sign.

>> No.3697903

[EXIT] signes.

>> No.3697921
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A key on an illuminated pedestal in a dark room.

>> No.3697939
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Getting to work on an E1M3 replacement

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>> No.3697959

Oh dear, which demon you think SFM fag will go nuts over?

>> No.3697962

a jump down which there is no perceivable way back from.

>> No.3697970

The Facepunch thread where this porting stuff is going on is being plagued by some Russian kid who keeps begging for help porting Samuel Hayden and refuses to read the answers to his questions because, AND THIS IS A DIRECT QUOTE, "I Brony, and like most of the Bronies me sometimes too lazy to look for something or read. Therefore write to ask how to do it."

So look forward to witnessing the poorly-animated spectacle of Samuel Hardon ripping and tearing a cartoon horse sometime in the middle of next year.

>> No.3697983


SFM Fags are still waiting for the helmetless and texured doomguy model for their own pet projects with Elizabeth, Halo girls and Samus

and why facepunch doenst ban this faggot?

back then would would ban shitposters like him after this type of autistic quote

>> No.3698015

Umm... that sight is pointing at least 45° too much to the right. Looking at the gun from that angle you shouldn't even be able to see the hologram. It's supposed to be pointing at the target. Not the wall 10 meters to the right.

>> No.3698024
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I want to have a level with no (or a very limited) use of the SSG.

Crazy idea?

>> No.3698026

It's called Doom 1.

>> No.3698027

Double Impact

It's one very well made episode 1 replacement, no SSG to be seen.

>> No.3698028

Yes and it showed very clearly the limitations of the shotgun....but the SSG seems too overpowered and the Chaingun underpowered.

>> No.3698032

Play a mod, then?

>> No.3698034

no, but people expect the ssg even when you give them ample rockets and ways to use them

>> No.3698037

I'll check it out

Yeah I see you're not understanding why this is even being asked.

>but people expect the ssg

That's the thing, everybody expects it and it's probably the default gun for 90% of players as well but everybody falls into patterns with it, so it's a line of giving players a new experience without annoying them because fighting lots of anything above an imp with just a shotgun is annoying.

I can see why every gameplay mod changes it up.

>> No.3698041

How do I get better at Doom? I finished both Ultimate Doom and Doom II just fine, but TNT is kicking my ass hard

>> No.3698042

making chaingun viable would fix this imo, the way everyone treats it its just "I dont wanna waste good ammo" type of gun

>> No.3698045

It isn't TNT by itself. It's the long-range hitscanners. Also, if you've finished Ultimate, you have finished Thy Flesh Consumed, in which the first few levels are harder than anything TNT can throw at you.

>> No.3698047

That mapset by Skillsaw fixed it great.

But you don't even have to go that far, just making every bullet 15 dmg instead of 5/10/15 random.

>> No.3698049

E4M1 was only hard because they barely give you anything to work with. But it's not impossible.
E4M2 is just a matter of dying a few times until you learn the level and then it becomes manageable.

TNT just feels like bullshit, whenever I walk into a room it throws a gorillion enemies at you all at once, and even if you try to pick them all out one-by-one you always get fucked somehow. I'm playing on HMP by the way, I guess UV is even worse.

>> No.3698050

Are you playing Eviloution or Final Doom?

>> No.3698051

Evilution I guess, I'm playing the WAD in the OP.

>> No.3698052

Just uh....give us a screenshot.

If you're playing Plutonia it will explain a lot.

>> No.3698054

I'm not playing Plutonia. I'm playing TNT, the wad is called TNT.wad and the title screen says Evilution. I don't want to take a screenshot because I'm still on map 4 and you're gonna laugh at me.

>> No.3698056
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>Unloved 2 will never be finished

>> No.3698057

Isn't Unloved 2 that terrible source-engine game?

>> No.3698058

No, it's this.


It ends on a climax too.

>> No.3698059

With that terrible Unloved stand-alone thing on Steam made by the Doom WAD author, I don't think I even want to see an Unloved 2. Also Unloved 1 went into huge monster battles late game when it had no damn need to as it was actually a suspenseful horror mod.

>> No.3698060

Are you sure? It ramped up the body count very close after the start if I recall and then slowly built challenge until those last two or three rooms which were pretty tough.

>> No.3698063

>TNT is harder than E4M2


>> No.3698065

I didn't come here to have arguments, all I want is some tips to get better.

>> No.3698069

Use chaingun when dealing with big mobs of zombies.

>> No.3698082

The chaingun is also good against chaingunners because it keeps them from shooting back. It's also good in long distance against them, which the the common affliction of TNT.

>> No.3698086

try gzdoombuilder

>> No.3698090

>Yes and it showed very clearly the limitations of the shotgun

The shotgun was perfectly fine for most Doom 1 monsters. Its only really the baron that takes too long.

>> No.3698091
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Just finished watching Romero do a commentary on his latest level, was pretty alright.

>> No.3698104
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The shotgun is the most important weapon in any fps. If the shotgun is shit, the game is shit. Do you agree?

>> No.3698105

Every weapon is the most important weapon in any fps. If the weapons are shit, the game is shit.

>> No.3698108 [DELETED] 

>The shotgun is the most important weapon in any fps.

Doombaby mentality.

>> No.3698109


shoo /v/ go play stillfall 2

>> No.3698112

TNT here again, the game just spawned a chaingunner right behind me while I was already being assaulted by two from the front. This was MAP05, you can check it for yourself if you don't believe me.

I don't even want to play Plutonia anymore if that's the one that's supposed to be full of bullshit.

>> No.3698113

TNT is literally badplutonia

>> No.3698117

Plutonia is a bit more straightforward in how it fucks you.

>> No.3698119


It's more
>"So I heard you hate revenants......"

>> No.3698120
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Finally got first actual section done.

...Now for the rest. Perhaps they should be smaller.

>> No.3698124
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Added some ideas.

>> No.3698126


>So I heard that Cyberdemons and Masterminds should be rare boss monsters

>> No.3698130


>So I heard you like texture variety

>> No.3698147

>guy didn't reply

Hey man I'm not digging you.
I just like drawing benis.

>> No.3698158

Pretty cool vid

>> No.3698162

>So I heard that Team TNT got some really good composers for cool new music?

>> No.3698176

Any reason why scroll wheel won't raise things in visual mode? I'm using the latest version of GZDoom Builder and I checked the key binds, but nothing works.

>> No.3698187
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>hitscanners were already bad in OG Doom
>add chaingunners in Doom 2

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g i t g u d f a m



>> No.3698210

The level design is the most important in any FPS.
If the levels are shit,the game is shit

>> No.3698213
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I know it's no longer saturday but I'm working on some Heretic voxels

>> No.3698214

Russian overkill is quite fun with colourfull hell.

>> No.3698215

Voxelbro is that you? It's been so long.

>> No.3698216

Nah I'm not him. Just someone else who really likes Voxels.

>> No.3698219

Wasn't home to reply. It's a nice penis.

It is sorta cascading thing. Mechanics influence weapons and enemies ( and both influence eachother ), which in turn give the workings to level design.
Doom 2 is great in that regard that the vertical design of monsters is an improvement from 1, although it is shame level design didn't quite step up a notch.

>> No.3698229

For some reason I've always preferred the Shadow Warrior / Blood type of voxels. The kind where there's just a bunch of billboarded colored squares forming the object.

>> No.3698257

>damaging pits with no way out

>> No.3698260

Is there a way to change the format for a level without having to start over?

>> No.3698263

nvm i'm stupid

>> No.3698309

I just lost my virginity thanks to DOOM. AMA

>> No.3698310


did American McGee pump your ass while Romero came in your face?

I don't care for any other answer than "yes"

>> No.3698312


>> No.3698318

Am I hearing this wrong or are there no bad music tracks in TNT?

>> No.3698358

I don't like the music for the last level

>> No.3698365 [SPOILER] 
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I told you fuckers we needed to fight them, but noooo.

>> No.3698368
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>that painting

>> No.3698370

I want to see hayden on haydee.

>> No.3698386

TNT is easily the worst classic Doom game
Plutonia was pretty great though

>> No.3698425
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hey what compile options should I use so my water is lit properly?
is it an issue with leaks? my map is not sealed yet

>> No.3698438 [DELETED] 

>durr furry menace lul

>> No.3698453

what about marathon

>> No.3698461

Go away Sarais.

>> No.3698472

Play Quake instead if you hate hitscanners so much

>> No.3698474
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TNT has excellent music, it's why I like it's atmosphere so much.

>> No.3698505

here you go

>> No.3698512 [DELETED] 

will this thread ever just go away... jesus christ

>> No.3698513

Nah m8.

>> No.3698518

I just finished the most infuriating level in TNT on UV and I didn't run into too much trouble. The level in question is M09 Stronghold, a cramped techbase where almost all enemies are hitscanners.

>> No.3698526

Cut off one thread, and another will take it's place

>> No.3698532


Jut like torrent sites!

>> No.3698539
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>its another 3DGE mod on the zdoom forums

>> No.3698542

>"Projects for any Doom-based engine (especially 3DGE) are perfectly acceptable here too."
>too dense to understand that
wew lad

>> No.3698543
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You first.

>> No.3698556
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3DGE has their own forums, and if people actually cared about that engine they would go there.

Its just an image, don't have a heart attack over it.

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>> No.3698563

someone answer me?

>> No.3698567
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>> No.3698569

Not caring about something does not give you an excuse to hate on it.

>> No.3698584

either make the zdoom forum for zdoom mods or stop giving edge special treatment and open it up for doom mods of all kinds

not that difficult

>> No.3698602



>> No.3698608

>Projects for ANY DOOM-BASED ENGINE are perfectly acceptable here too
are you two fucking retarded

>> No.3698612

That's an inconvenient fact to shitposters though

>> No.3698620

i haven't been playing DOOM lately due to work, so i'm really behind the news.

Did the LISA wad get finished? I remember it looked pretty good.

>> No.3698623

Doesn't water in Quake always glow like that? Same for lava and slime.

Make sure you have actual brushes underneath I guess 'cause water doesn't seal the map.

>> No.3698625

>LISA wad

What? It's a mod about the game or something else?

>> No.3698627


>> No.3698630

A guy a few months ago released a few webms of a mod he was working on with enemies from LISA, including Joy Mutants.

>> No.3698640
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I can't imagine how it can work, but l'm kinda interested

>> No.3698685


I keep having this problem when using "textures" in slade. Basically, often, when I'm modifying a few things (adding new switches and stuff), my entire "textures.txt" file becomes corrupted (adds SCALE 2,000 to a lot of entries, which gzdoom doesnt recognize)

it's a really weird issue and I have no idea how/why it happens.

>> No.3698687

>Food analogy.
And I thought this wasn't /v/.

>> No.3698694

It's actually 2.5D

>> No.3698702

How does a 1/2 dimension work?

>> No.3698713
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this got me thinking

what purpose does 3DGE actually serve? what does it do to differentiate itself from all the other sourceports?

>> No.3698714


Do you have a problem with food, anon?

>> No.3698715

Why are you crying this hard about something that doesn't affect you?

>> No.3698720


i would say that's a pretty legitimate question desu

>> No.3698721

I'm not
or anybody else ITT.

>> No.3698724


I'm pretty sure Ive seeing models in honey.zip

>> No.3698734


Wait a fucking minute, I think I know what's happening. I think the newer versions of slade are dependant on which decimal separator you use. Since I'm on a french pc, it probably switches to "," instead of ".", which fucks up .txt recognition, and then fucks up entries.

Any idea how I can change that ? I'm going to change the separator on windows 10 to check if that really is the issue, but I dont think I want to be stuck with the . instead of the , in other programs...

>> No.3698745


Why are you so defensive about someone questioning 3DGE?

>> No.3698746

Well in that case, EDGE/3DGE existed before DECORATE was implemented for weapons. I guess people make mods in it now just for fun.

>> No.3698749


What do you fucking know. That IS the problem.

Changed the decimal separator to "." in windows 10, but if anyone has a "per application" option, that would be pretty grand.

>> No.3698758

Is there's any taffer here, could you tell me what's the name of that fan mission where it grows increasingly stranger and stranger until it's revealed that Garrett was hallucinating everything and is in fact lying on an operating table to be vivisected?

>> No.3698789

>Malware 10 can arbitrarily change what decimal signs programs use when they write files
What the FUCK

How fucking bad can that piece of shit get

>> No.3698791

How can Microsoft fuck up this badly?

>> No.3698795

And I thought "I,0" was a pretty spectacular programming error.

>> No.3698803

This must be one of a biggest, stupidest thing I have read all year.

>> No.3698805

2016 just keeps topping itself.

>> No.3698820

I thought the "vaccines cause autism" thingy was the worst. And then the USA...

>> No.3698825

Which comes first TNT or Plutonia?

>> No.3698826

At least you're not even trying to hide the double standard anymore.

>> No.3698840

Easier one first I'd say.

>> No.3698846

If Microshill was in the medical business vaccines would definitely cause severe autism, on top of including lifetime tracking chips.

>> No.3698847
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>> No.3698862

>helmetless Doomguy

>> No.3698882


>> No.3698903

What double standard? Just stating my desires.

>> No.3698919


That guy seems to be convinced that this general has a double standard against foot fetishism and furries,

In my opinion, I don't think we accept them any less than any other fetishes. It's just that the people who have them tend to be a bit more obnoxious and visible than most.

polite sage and spoilers because off-topic

>> No.3698924

I fucking hate feet though. Shits disgusting.

>I don't think we accept them any less than any other fetishes.

>> No.3698925

I've seen a couple of neat Edge mods.

A bit of a shame that it's Edge though, it never looks right when I try to get it going proper

>> No.3698930

Not me. I do not give a damn what porn people enjoy as long as they keep it legal.

On topic.
Any one care to recommend a wad to play drla?
I tried it once but could not really get into it at the time. I think I am ready to give it a try again.

>> No.3698983


I don't care about porn. I want to talk about video games.
It just so happens some people want to tell how much they care about certain kinds porn, instead of talking about video games.

It's not that I hate porn. Hot women, 2D or 3D, are cool.
But there are some wonderful boards to talk about porn with people interested in the same things you are. This is not it.

>> No.3698993


I also agree that this isn't really the place for talking about porn (unless it's DOOM-related I guess). I just wanted to toss in my two cents on the matter of a supposed double standard.

>> No.3699001

That level is fun.

>> No.3699003

that level is fucking shit

>> No.3699004

TNT should be played first if you're still relatively new to doom.

>> No.3699006

Its one of my favourites. Fite me.

>> No.3699019

The current maintainer of 3DGE is codebros with Randi, that's why 3DGE gets a little bit of elbow room on the ZDoom forums. Not much more or less to it than that.

>> No.3699032

I wanna play all the master levels from DOOM 2 put apparenlty only some of them work while others don't, what do i do?

>> No.3699036


Some of them replace maps other than MAP01. Try warping or opening up the WADs to see which one they replace.

>> No.3699052


Virgil = map03
Minos = map05
Bloodsea = map07
Mephisto = map07
Nessus = map07
Geryon = map08
Vesperas = map09
Blacktwr = map25
Teeth = map31 and map32

>> No.3699072

i just noticed this, thanks

>> No.3699081

Any idea why inquisitor is slow as fuck for me, like sub 10 FPS? My drivers are up to date.

>> No.3699123
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>tfw reading for the first time the Regarding Brutal Doom sticky post on the zdoom forum.
Who were you, Sergeant_Mark_IV?

>> No.3699135

I'm amazed there isn't some kind of Encyclopedia Dramatica style entry or article on him somewhere.

>> No.3699191
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>Lum no Love Song plays

>> No.3699220


>> No.3699234
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Call it controversial but I don't mind him at all.

He (somewhat inadvertently) did a lot of good for the community. Namely inspiring parts of 2016 Doom which may have pulled it away from being a shitty COD clone like it was before and brought new people to the game.

Though he acted foolishly on other things and antagonized some people unnecessarily (to say the least) who are forever sour at him and all he does, sure you can say they're being petty but it's the internet and here grudges seem to be eternal.

>> No.3699236
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>3ds max
>unreal editor 4
>gzdoom builder
>all those fucking shortcuts and behavior mixing together

>> No.3699267

>inspiring parts of 2016 Doom
but the glory kill system and the overly gratuitous violence were settled in long before BD even came to be.

>> No.3699270

A Hell where creation is possible is no Hell.

>> No.3699272

Yeah, no. Mark doesn't have anything to do with the glory kills.


>> No.3699278
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REELism is cool
God,what have I been missing out on in the years I didn't play DooM.
This is a fucking Toybox.

>> No.3699281

>Hasn't been involved in Doom in years
Holy shit man, there's so many good things out right now.

Just go to Cacowards for some easy top tier pickings

>> No.3699285

It's why devs should release their source code more often

>> No.3699329

Isn't 2.5 a 3D models on a 2D plane?

>> No.3699331

Welcome to the club

>> No.3699356

Best track in W3D in my opinion

>> No.3699373

My biggest gripe was not ever having much ammo.

I want to go wild, not hunt for ammunition.

>> No.3699376

As far as I can tell enemies drop ammo for the weapons spawning in that round.
So if the wolfenstein weapons spawn,you get enough clips to constantly use the chaingun.
And if shotguns spawn,you get shells.
The problem comes when explosives spawn.

>> No.3699379


Reminds me, the biggest threat in Reelismwas the dogs.

>> No.3699380

Fuckers clutter up the map and make you stuck.

>> No.3699382

That level is fun with the Brutal Doom chaingun

>> No.3699387

How do I make interesting level designs?

>> No.3699389

Use real buildings for blueprints.
Watch star Wars for ideas on textures/details.

>> No.3699391
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So, how do I get DOOM II on Steam to run with the overlay?

Tried following this guide: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=351474657

But it appears to be outdated, as appdata.vdf gets deleted and re-made when I run Steam again.

>> No.3699393

Just mark the file as read only.

>> No.3699394


don't use real buildings for blueprints>>3699391


throw gzdoom in the folder and rename gzdoom.exe to dosbox.exe

>> No.3699397

That only lets me run GZDoom on Steam, but not have the overlay.

I'll try that.

>> No.3699404
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>Running Doom on steam

My dude...

>> No.3699405

What's the problem? I want to be able to talk to my friends while playing.

>> No.3699407

fuck off

>> No.3699408

Source ports are much better man, I'm amazed you can tolerate the game with Dosbox.

>> No.3699409


put the doom2.wad in the the doom 1 folder and select it from the gzdoom menu

>> No.3699410
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I am using GZDoom on it since the day I bought it off Steam.

>> No.3699414 [DELETED] 


don't mind him, this thread is full of autistics

>> No.3699415

Oh right, sounded to me like you were just playing through steam.

One of the guys here even made an image on source ports which mocked it, funny.

>> No.3699416

If you're trying to broadcast Doom 2, use something else. If you want to talk with your friends, you don't need to add GZDoom to Steam.

>> No.3699417

Just launch gzdoom as a non-steam game you fucking retard holy shit.

>> No.3699418

Oh yeah
>talk with friends

Skype, man.

>> No.3699423


>being an autistic

My dude...

>> No.3699425
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I meant in text. Who the fuck uses Skype anyway? That shit is clunky.

I'm super autistic about games being launched "in-game" and not "non-steam game", also, I want to track hours.

Worked out like a charm. Thank you very much, anon.

>> No.3699426


use teamspeak

>> No.3699427
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>not being autistic

My dude...

>> No.3699428



hi grandma

>> No.3699429


for the record, I have tried discord and curse

>> No.3699430
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Where's my Christmas present, asshole?

>> No.3699451

Doomguy too big4her! Rip AND Tear most girls to ahegao!

>> No.3699454

I think hell knight is sexy

>> No.3699463
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I'm amazed at some of the scripting talent I've seen from people here.

If it wasn't for you guys I don't think my map project would get off the ground.

I'm speaking of something I tried a year back (but I left it and now I'm coming back to it). I can think of map setting and design easily enough and enjoy doing it but I just cannot stand scripting to the point where I'd just not map because I dislike it so.

Yet some scripters I see do it as easily as breathing, shows this community takes all sorts I suppose.

>> No.3699464


I've been struggling with this problem for two months... Fucking hell, anyway, I'm happy it's resolved.

>> No.3699468

>"I Brony, and like most of the Bronies me sometimes too lazy to look for something or read. Therefore write to ask how to do it."

>> No.3699473

I haven't had any problems with Dosbox. I have custom keybindings that let me use wasd and aspect ratio scaling that doesn't stretch the image on widescreen. Though I would prefer scaling that doesn't resample pixel dimensions, but that I can get windowed.

>inb4 playing Doom @ hardlocked 35fps

Speaking of ports, how do I get a more authentic midi emulation? Or do I just need to actually get a Sound Blaster 16?

>> No.3699475

>Or do I just need to actually get a Sound Blaster 16?

I'd laugh if anybody really has hunted one down just to get the MIDI they always wanted.

>> No.3699485

Mick Gordon did. He couldn't recreate the cheesy artificial drumstick klacks from "The Imp's Song" so he sampled it from an actual SB16

>> No.3699487

>doesn't stretch the image on widescreen
If by that you mean "pillarboxing" there's most likely a setting that can be set for your GPU to do that. It's how I got it with mine.

>> No.3699490

Noice effort.
Though he's a sound producer so it's not weird if he does it.

>> No.3699497
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Doom mappers.

How big is your monitor?

This one goes up to 1920x1080 but I think I'd like a bigger one to view more of my map instead of spending so much time scrolling.

>> No.3699504

This is obvious trolling

>> No.3699505

1920x1080 here as well. Pretty comfortable with it so I never felt the need to go into the larger resolutions.

>> No.3699510

It's not possible. Doom 2 is only doom engine game on steam where the overlay won't work.

>> No.3699515
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quake mapping question
clipping staircases, yes or no?
I have 64 unit tall staircases with 8x12 unit steps, all of them are clipped as you can see on pic to avoid jerky movement when walking on them, my issue here is that steps may be a bit too steep, when standing on them, player will slowly slide down, also when transitioning from slope onto flat platform there is some sort of slight "landing" effect
any advice on that?

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>> No.3699526

My monitor is 23inch that goes up to 1920x1080.

I actually prefer playing Doom in 1440x1080, though. Just feels more right playing in 4:3.

>> No.3699532

>Any threads about "what's so bad about Brutal Doom, anyway?" should not be posted, because we've been over the subject countless times and it's getting tired. The common consensus is that Brutal Doom itself might play "just fine," but from a coder's perspective it is a nightmare of spaghetti code and things that only half-work
the fuck is spaghetti code?

>> No.3699534

As a non-mapper I never expect stairs to act like smooth slopes and I wouldn't want mappers to start doing it because that would be inconsistent to what I'm used to. If a mapper puts smooth slopes in a map, I will always try to launch myself into the air with them to get an advantage in combat or to try to reach/discover a secret. I think using them needs to be pretty deliberate and to serve a purpose more significant than just aesthetics.

>> No.3699536

the fuck is google?

>> No.3699552

Code that instead of having proper structure that makes it easy to follow, jumps allover the place (often with straight gotos) that makes it almost incomprehensible to anyone that is not the author.

This approach also invites assloads of bugs.

"things that only half-work" in this case means implementing a feature in one of the worst possible ways that causes conflicts. Prime example is putting stuff and scripts that should've been done in global ACS into DECORATE of various actors, Player included, that causes all sort of bugs and incompatibilities. For instance it makes several levels of Scythe 2 autofinish after 20-30 seconds, because scripts that run on player actor get transferred onto his voodoo doll that is used for map progression. Also causes unintended infighting in numerous scenarios before player even reaches the spot, so some of the planned encounters just flat out break.

>> No.3699560

Sounds like a really dickish way to make sure nobody will steal your stuff.

>> No.3699561

its more the working style of someone who isn't very methodical, or doesn't like to have things neatly arranged and easy to understand.

I was going to say it sounds like he's a stoner, but even when I smoked a shit ton of weed, I would still write my decorate code in logical and easy to understand format.

>> No.3699568

He's probably just very ADD, I programmed like that in high school.

But SgtMarkIV is a programmer from what I've read, so he should know better. Though I think a lot of it carries bugs from when he was first starting out and he didn't go back and fix it when he was better.

>Spaghetti code

Lol, ask anybody whose an American programmer what they think of Indian programming.

>> No.3699582

>to anyone that is not the author
Sometimes not even the author knows what's happening. Everyone who has ever programmed has had this happen to them at some point, where they come back to old code and have no idea what they're looking at.

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>map by American McGee

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>map by American McGee

>> No.3699589

You'd be surprised, but in Russia, what you call "Spaghetty code" we call "Indian code"

>> No.3699591

Hey, his early Doom 2 maps are some of the most memorable parts.

>> No.3699593

There are bunch of local names, like in Finland it is called "purkkakoodi" ( {chewing}gum-programming )

>> No.3699595

I stopped caring long ago.
Viva la Filter

>> No.3699597
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I think Circle Of Death is Romero's best map.

It just all comes together so well.

>> No.3699598

I like his runic levels in Quake.

>> No.3699601

In France, it's called "C'est quoi cette merde?".
It means "Redo it".

>> No.3699602

In my language we call it something that roughly translates as "kludge-oriented programming"

>> No.3699604

What software creates these isometric maps I keep seeing?

>> No.3699605

I quite like it as well.

>> No.3699609


This is the page I got it from.
The author used a java program he wrote himself.

>> No.3699612

The thumbnails reminded me that the latter half of DOOM II is so terrible.

>> No.3699614
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>E3M2 is a hand

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>> No.3699629

>BFG on Entryway
on what difficulty?

>> No.3699632

on deathmatch

>> No.3699636

Do people still play stronghold anymore?

I don't do MP at all.

>> No.3699637 [SPOILER] 
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Confirming. Ammo drops are based on weapon reel. I think some reels like Melee do random ammo type drops, but I'm too lazy to crack open the source code to confirm.

see image

>> No.3699643

Honestly,that is one of the easier bosses.
Maybe because I have choose a better level,but he wasn't a challenge az all.

>> No.3699650
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Whatever mobs spawn will drop ammo relevant to your weapon reel on their death. If it's not the weaponless one or anything too overly specific like melee or boss round, the ammo drops are random. So this obviously means that tanky shit like Hell Barons certainly aren't worth killing for ammo (and so better just let them infight) whereas the BoBs, bronies, and Strife hobos are ammo pinatas.

Most of them are quite manageable with circlestrafing, though less open maps can make things a lot harder or up to chance. Like the Imp Tank being easy to circle strafe from a distance, but if you have to peek around a more confined area then you can die pretty easily.

I must say that the skull tank thing from 3.0 certainly doesn't fuck around.

>> No.3699656

The giant pinky is a bitch
One hit kills you.

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Ms. Jerk is stupid fast, you practically have to be on the run and try to avoid the lunges. She's huge though, so I guess in some maps she'll be stuck in some areas that you could probably use to cheese.

>> No.3699663

How can I change the HUD to be bigger?

The internet machine is a good map,she can't get up to the platforms and there is enough ammo and such there but I keep killing myself with rockets.

>> No.3699669

- and + keys on the row of numbers on your keyboard. Note that most mods with their own fullscreen HUDs rely on the 'alternate style hud' option set to false in ZDoom's settings. Setting it to true might lose you some mod-specific information, seeing as it defaults to a generic HUD regardless of what you loaded.

>> No.3699675

never opened the map before?

>> No.3699681

>a secret requires the player to be boosted by a an archvile

I like it when maps do that

>> No.3699684

>secret has monsters
>and a required key
>need an arch vile to reach it
>no health beforehand

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I need star-skyboxes for this map, probably. Outdoor areas are kind ass...

>> No.3699695

I wish he distributed the his program so people could make such maps of other wads.

>> No.3699708

This sounds like that fucking Wolf3D secret from pccp @ map23, except it requires 3 keys from other secrets to enter and double AV blast to reach the door. But it has -secret- invulnerability nearby.

>> No.3699712

>and double AV blast to reach the doo

I bet the 100% speedrunners loved that.

>> No.3699729

Use anything with at least episode-lenght
Anything less, and it's frustratingly short
Anything more, and you either get fucked by the RNG or end up with uselessly powerful weapons

>> No.3699731

They weren't the biggest problem. Out of all attempts to record UV-Max for that level only 1 or 2 times I've had to start all over because invulnerabilty ran out before I reached the secret door. These 2 Archviles were pretty cooperative actually.

>> No.3699742

how do you enjoy speedrunning?

>> No.3699768

Just finished for the First time doom 2, what an incredibile ride, i'm already feeling inside of me That every fps now Will feel like shit in comparision. Icon of sin FUCK YOU!

>> No.3699798


are you fucking blind?

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>> No.3699809

according to romero himself it's a hand with a booger on the middle finger

>> No.3699812
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>You fly to the top and now the dogs can't get you
And now we just hope we don't get any flying twats

>> No.3699824
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>> No.3699828

you dont

>> No.3699831
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genuinely comfy

>> No.3699838


look like prime forest area mixed with The Island wad

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>> No.3699850
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Alright what the fuck sort of devil magicks is this

>> No.3699851
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I dunno, the most interesting part is finding the route that seems to be the fastest and doable. When it comes to executing that route everything turns into grindfest where you perform absolutely the same set of actions in absolutely the same order time and time again until planets align in the right way and you get your fast time.
Now I look at my old demos and see that there's actually a lot of room for improvement but I can't be bothered to redo any of them simply because I don't want to do all this shit again.

>> No.3699854

I'm just a random /vr/ anon passing by, but what the fuck have you people done with DOOM

>> No.3699858

I've been thinking about attempting linguortals for my mod, but I get the impression that zdoom based ports will never support them... What are the odds? They seem powerful and backwards compatible enough that I feel they really should be supported...

>> No.3699859
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Welcome to /doom/
To be honest, I'm not sure what he's done, but it looks very comfy

>> No.3699862

zdoom won't support them because it has actual, not-a-gigantic-hack-and-you-can-walk-through-them line portals

I doubt any port besides chocolate doom even supports them

>> No.3699867

shame, because looks good.

>> No.3699870


Thats is GZdoom folks

even if graf is Anti-Carmack, he still does get shit done

>> No.3699872

Very few. But they've been known about for a year, and they'd make for across-the-board compatibile linedef portals instead of zdoom only, if they were supported. Can't go back and alter vanilla/chocolate (without defeating the purpose) at this point.

Just curious if anyone knew if any future plans regarding them.

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>> No.3699883
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Sound Blaster 16.

Anons, I'm looking to install one of these bad boys in my modern PC, but the issue I'm having is that my mobo has PCIe + 2 x1 PCIe.

What kind of adapters should I get so that I can enjoy that sweet FM synthesis?

>> No.3699885

Does winter's fury works with Dreadnought?

>> No.3699889

We're breaking the conditioning!

>> No.3699892
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it's not me, is some russian


>> No.3699906


>Brutal doom facebook group

No thanks, i rather fuck my self with a tinitus than give them views

>> No.3699912


Turning doom into the cry engine and giving no fucks I guess

>> No.3699915
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Lighting is difficult, bargh.

...How many linedefs is that?
Looks pretty, but damn. Looks rather difficult to read.

>> No.3699932
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Whatever we want, really.

>> No.3699935


>No thanks, i rather fuck my self with a tinitus than give them views
>giving views to a facebook group


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That's from IDDQD russian doom community forums and have nothing to do with BD.

Link to the test version goo gl/5q8tqX

>> No.3699993

>I've been thinking about attempting linguortals for my mod
hahahaha good luck with that. it's a ludicrously complicated hack unless you write some sort of tool to manage it.

>> No.3700078
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Im thinking of entering QUMP, never did any mapping beyond fucking around in trenchbroom which ended with a single cubic room.
What kind of aesthethic/theme and size do you guys recommend for a first map? Or is releasing your first map a no-no move?

>> No.3700089

Way more trouble than they're worth.

>> No.3700094

its a general rule to never release your first map, but hey I am breaking it and its going well so far
I say go for it, ask for feedback and advice here and you will get your answers between occasion /v/ tier shitposts.
I think generic castle stone thingy might be easier than techbase because you will have more freedom with textures.

>> No.3700112

well my DRAM died today and all of my doom wad stuff is frozen until i buy a new one this week

until then, im using a 2006 dell notebook

So, does the /vr/ link for Quake 1 + OST still lives or what?

>> No.3700141

I tried installing Blood Crossmatching and the high res patch but the graphics are all fucked in the menus (random sprites replacing the text and the cursor) and in game the character floats to the ceiling unless I crouch. Any idea of what I've done wrong? I feel really dumb.

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>> No.3700239

Tried deleting and redownloading?

>> No.3700242

This just made me realize
Is it just me or does Between Levels sound like Facing the Spider? (D1's E3M8, Dis) (the trash metal one)

>> No.3700251


From what I heard, Between Levels is supposed to be a remix of Zero Hour from Wolfenstein 3D.

>> No.3700293

Sergeant_Mark_IV is nothing but a demonstration of how a considerable amount of this fanbase are millennial manchildren. Just check >>3699906 for a quick example.

>> No.3700323

go cry about it somewhere else.

>> No.3700328

Hi Mark.

>> No.3700361


continue crying a river mark, and watch out for the feds

>> No.3700363 [DELETED] 


I thought the stereotype was that millennials loved Facebook.

>> No.3700371

don't give it attention.

>> No.3700387

I think enemies can melee you regardless of height if you're adjacent to them.

>> No.3700391

>i rather fuck my self with a tinitus
Don't joke about that, I have Tinnitus and it's hell.

>> No.3700397
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how can someone play this fucking slowly jesus christ

>> No.3700448

He's playing on the realistic difficulty.

You die very quickly on it and also you move slower.
Generally a single shotgun blast will instagib you even with blue armor on.

>> No.3700474


Sounds like HD, only shitty.

>> No.3700502

Eh just choose a theme for your level and have fun!

"releasing your first map" is essentially the entire point of QUMP. It will be a pretty casual "release" just an excuse (and impetus) to make a map.

Check the QUMP google document, there's some good links on how to make maps and how to make maps better.

>> No.3700527

but i've played realistic and even i try to play faster than that
that must be why i suck at it then lmao

>> No.3700583

It isn't 2D. It isn't 3D. It's 2.5D~ish.
Some levels have Escher shit going on, featuring geometry which couldn't exist in 3D.

>> No.3700604

examples please

>> No.3700648

I would also like examples

>> No.3700720

Which is better: Doom 1 textures, Doom 2 textures, or both?
I ask in regards to making maps for Doom. But feel free to answer with your preference even if you only play the games.

>> No.3700729

It's not that bad but you have to like Brutal Doom in the first place.
Enemies are more fragile on that difficulty too.

It's kind of a middle point between HD and Brutal Doom without all the micromanaging different things like recoil/stamina/etc.

But I like doing that stuff in HD, and also that lightning gun is so fucking cool

>> No.3700740

Both games have basically the same textures, Doom 2 is only missing a few Doom 1 textures.

>> No.3700889

>and watch out for the feds
What did he do?

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>> No.3700904

Except trying to get a depressed guy to kill himself (which is a felony), stealing copyrighted content and acting like a little bitch?

>> No.3700908

He's in Brazil man, I doubt hueh-cops will notice much less even care.

>> No.3700914

So because he's a foreigner, it's going for him to be an asshole. Okay.

>> No.3700925

No, because he's in another country you'll need more than a passive aggressive attitude to see him arrested as you desire.

I don't care about your e-mob.

>> No.3700936

>Except trying to get a depressed guy to kill himself (which is a felony),

>> No.3700938

i routinely forget that stuff that is very benign/daily on chans is serious business in forums with name tags

i see that here and just think the person doing it is a bad person (and tell the guy not to kill himself) and forget about it later

>> No.3700949


>Except trying to get a depressed guy to kill himself (which is a felony)

I had to check if I was in reddit

>> No.3700950

Unfortunately there is a lot of overlap between Reddit and other forums.

For whatever reason, 4chan occupies permanent "edgy evil" status. I have to wonder the shit /vr/ mappers face saying "I'm from /vr/" on doom forums.

As if we're going to beat them up, take their lunch money and key racist insults on their car.

People are mature enough to know the distinction, they're just lazy.

>> No.3700951


>4chan occupies permanent "edgy evil" status

and that's how it should be

>> No.3700952

To soccer moms and normie plebs, yes.
To our fellow Doomers elsewhere, hopefully the can see past it.

>> No.3700953

go away, edgefag

>> No.3700957

>telling edge to go away on 4chan

Lost, kid?

>> No.3700958


and you go back to plebbit, if you can't handle a dude saying to you kill yourself this is not your place

>> No.3700959

take a hike off to 9gag where you belong

>> No.3700960


kill yourself dude, stop contaminating this place, this can be /vr/ but still is 4chan

>> No.3700962

simply ebin, your fellow stains would be proud of you

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*unsheathes katanas*

Gave you your last warning, kid.

>> No.3700964


Grow the fuck up, kids.

>> No.3700978

I suspect ol' Mork has far bigger problems on his mind than Internet Forums Stuff. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/09/brazil-austerity-cuts-un-official

>> No.3700981

Why do people keep whining here about him.

You don't like him, we get it.

I don't even play BD....this is like meeting a person that won't shut up about their ex you've never even met.

>> No.3700986

man, a whole five posts out of the topic

yeah, that's really a lot

>> No.3700989

5 too many.

Get lost with the personal army requests.

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He's popular and a lot of his fanbase is loud and annoying. Do we really need any other excuse?

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Playing some megawad called Evilstar and it's pretty slaughtery though usually fair, but fuck this lava level. Jumping puzzles ahoy with eventual hordes of lost souls

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They're annoying because they're reflective of BD's ritalin overdose frantic nature. So like a little kid being annoying at a shop, they're easy to avoid.

People that piss and whine about Mark are annoying like Mormons who come over and knock on your door and try and convert you to their faith and firmly convinced they've got the moral high ground and they're doing you a favor.

I am just flat out not interested in joining your stupid movement. I don't like/dislike Mark....I just don't care....I am indifferent to Mark.

I'm not interested in joining you and am comfortable in my current beliefs, now get off my property and stop coming back every few days pretending to be somebody else or I'll have to call the police.

>> No.3701004

No they can't.
I would have bitched about it already.

>> No.3701013

Is that the guy from Sodom? What the actual fuck is that?

>> No.3701032

It's literally against the law to incitate someone to kill him.
I'm not sure how grave it is, but I think that talking someone into killing himself is considered as bad as giving him the rope to hang himself.

>> No.3701038

>"Man, I'm totally not Mark's fanboy, but the guys who shit on him are totally assholes!"

>> No.3701043

If you're for love and tolerance, perhaps this is the wrong board for you. We have /mlp/ for that.

>> No.3701049

>Mormons are annoying
Have you met one?
I haven't,but I would accept a free copy of Book of Mormon to be honest.

Is your bitching about other people bitching better?

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>join our movement or we'll try and ostracize you and say you're our enemy

You can think what you like, to be honest.
You're not going to turn this place into your personal cesspit....get a life.

Yes, Jehovas witnesses as well. The second time around they even brought over a pretty girl my age to think I'll keep the door open longer.

>Is your bitching about other people bitching better?

Yes, objectively so.
I want this "have I told you how much I hate my ex" crap to stop.....you want it to go on forever.

>> No.3701056


Surprisingly, Mark is not the first person on the internet to tell someone to commit suicide. Worse cases have happened, with much higher display of desire of making someone kill itself, no over the top jokes involved, and which actually have lead to deaths, and nothing really happened.


>> No.3701060

It's worse when it's Mark because he's famous.

If a random guy in the street tells you to kill yourself, you'll punch him in the face. If it's your boss or someone famous that you respect, it'll cripple your self-esteem. Mark is just a low-level bully belonging to high school.

>> No.3701064


I could walk past him today and have no idea who he is.

Why don't you just tell us the real reason you dislike Mark, because I highly, highly doubt it's the suicide thing. Did he steal a resource of yours? That's legit, he's done that.

Was there a political discussion and you disagree with his politics and pretending it's about suicide is a good moral cover to get rid of him? Because I'll tell you right now I never go into "off topic" sections.

>> No.3701067

>because he's famous.
Mark was literally nobody back at 2012-2013. I mean, he is not much even right now.

>If a random guy in the street tells you to kill yourself, you'll punch him in the face.

Actually that is battery. Can easily turn into felony.

>> No.3701071

I'm also an egoist cunt who thinks his bitching about bitching is more worthy of thread space.

>> No.3701075

Are you an only child?
Serious question.

Reason is you seem to react very heavily to people disagreeing with you that you can't easily get rid of. That and the talk about hitting people who say things to you.

>> No.3701080

>Everyone is the same person on the board,except for me
Nice thinking mate
Too bad it's incorrect

>> No.3701084

I never said idiots come one at a time.

Though you both seem to have the same mentality. Like you seem *really* pissed off about this and I want to drill down as to why.

People whine about Mark when I've only seen him here once.

>> No.3701089

No, it's really the suicide thing. Stealing ressources is one thing, it's low, but using your fame to bully other people is childish and despicable.
I'm not saying you need to listen to every sob story, and I agree that a Doom forum is a bad place to complain, but abusing someone's vulnerable position is a really shitty thing to do.

>> No.3701090

I don't know who is this Mark guy,but I love me a good argument.
If you get angry about someone over a screen you are prime neckbeard material to be honest,

>> No.3701092

>using your fame to bully other people is childish and despicable.

How did Mark exactly "used his fame"? Did he sent a horde of BD fanboys to harass the guy's FB?

>> No.3701098

How tall is Keegan irl?


>> No.3701101
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Eh, I can respect that.
It's a more noble one than the guy that's incapable of shutting up because Mark said a racist thing and "anti racism" is his religion or some other garbage nobody with a brain cares about.

When I was reading that infamous post of Marks I got the impression Mark is actually a bit mental himself. Not saying that in the insult sense but in the "possible mild Aspergers" sense.

Like why would he even say that, he even honestly thought he was doing the guy a favor....so continually being annoyed at him is kind of pointless because he's not likely to "Get it" anyway and that's just who he is.

Ironically, I'll just accept that as I don't have to meet or work with him. He's probably figured it out by now anyway and if he hasn't he probably never will.

I like to take Doom stuff "as is" without really thinking who the author is.

>I love me a good argument.
>If you get angry about someone over a screen you are prime neckbeard material to be honest

Damn, you're a real forum genius man.

>> No.3701105

>Damn, you're a real forum genius man.
It's the result of long years.
Not like anything on 4chan matters.

>> No.3701106

That's the best approach.
But I still prefer 4chan, because people will talk shit to each others here, but everyone is familiar, so it feels like friends fucking with each others.

>> No.3701112

*sheathes katanas*
*dons fedora*
*starts motorbike*

You're better than me, kid....well done.

*rides into the sunset*

That's fair.
I actually think it's funny that over the years on 4chan we've probably had a laugh with the same person we've agreed with or told to fuck off at some point and never been the wiser.

>> No.3701113

>I like to take Doom stuff "as is" without really thinking who the author is.

This is me in general, really.
Separation of author and artist is a good mentality to have, especially when it comes to things like good music and the shitty musicians. You can't really be a metalhead without it.

I just can't get really worked up about all the Mark drama, aside from making a couple jokes about it every now and then. I'd just rather make stuff.

>> No.3701116

This is why I like 4chan and the whole Anonymous thing. You can tell a guy to fuck his mother, strangle his retard brother/son and kill himself, and then share porn with him the next second.
On forums, everything you say is monitored, and you're always the mod's little bitch. If you say something that doesn't please a mod, your post is deleted without a notice, and after three deleted posts, you're banned.

>> No.3701117

Same.....if I had to put every piece of art I've consumed through a political interrogation I have no idea where it would be.

Though I can't play HD because Vaecrius is a tosser....and Ed something (guy with old Duke Nukem lagging as his avatar) is a tosser on wheels.

>> No.3701120

>I'd just rather make stuff.
has anyone accused you of being jealous of Mark?

>> No.3701123

>You can tell a guy to fuck his mother, strangle his retard brother/son and kill himself, and then share porn with him the next second.

I almost thought that was a Chris Benoit reference for a second.

>> No.3701126

>Chris Benoit
I know better than to ask who this is.

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A lot of people, actually. Some people take jokes too seriously.

Which means it's only funnier, really.

>> No.3701129

This reminds me of listening to InternetAristocrat argue with people on his stream.....that man is a gem.

>> No.3701132

>arrogant name
>argue live with streamers
No offence but that sounds cringy and embarassing.

>> No.3701136

>arrogant name

The name comes from a reference to a group of freaks, if I remember. Also from a community that consists of names varying a form of "Ultimate Doomer" we're in no position to talk.

>> No.3701140

Sorry, but everyone here is Anonymous.

>> No.3701145

Not anymore, kiddo.

>> No.3701148

You tell him!

>> No.3701149

just a wrestler who brain damaged himself retarded by headbutting opponents and who killed his family and himself

>> No.3701153

That's not funny. That's sad.

>> No.3701158

I would agree.

>> No.3701159
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that name is highly offensive and i must insist that you change it immediately

>> No.3701160


>> No.3701161

With a name like "ElfKiller9001" you should know better than to fuck with him.

>> No.3701162


>> No.3701164


Just passing by. Cleaning my... Rods.

And staves.

And wands.

And an etheral crossbow.

>> No.3701167

We're using names now?

>> No.3701169

At least it's not anime avatars.

>> No.3701170

I am a namefag too.

>> No.3701171

yes, due to discussion about mark we have channeled enough autism to turn this place into abomination worse than shittiest aspects of 4chan, reddit, zdoom and doomworld combined

>> No.3701172
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fugg rekt again

I was actually going to ask about Heretic. I guess Corvus IS an elf but nobody really cared much when the game was about blasting monsters with totally not-Doom weapons.

>> No.3701173


Yeah, Corvus is an elf.
Pretty rad for an elf, desu.

>> No.3701174

>worse than shittiest aspects of 4chan, reddit, zdoom and doomworld combined

- no avatars
- no discussions on "transgenders and racism in the community"
- no mod worship
- no edward

Face it man, we suck at being shit ironically.

>> No.3701175
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Fine, what about this one?

>> No.3701176


>> No.3701178

Hey guys.

>> No.3701182


>> No.3701184
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>people with actual mapping talent can take the time to make Terrywads

>> No.3701190

Are we getting raided by /v/ or what?

>> No.3701192
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Heh heh.
I really gotta catch up on dungeon meshi someday, great stuff.

>> No.3701197

No, we're mocking a prude from earlier in the thread.

>> No.3701198

I really like your Doom art and I hope a modder will bring you on board his project someday or you can get a modder to code stuff for you.

>> No.3701203
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How did Terminus get Jon St. John to do a voice clip for Samsara?

I'm trying to see what it'd cost to get him to say 1 line.

>> No.3701204

It's "ironic" so it's okay.
Saw this kind of stuff happen a bunch of times on other boards.

>> No.3701208


A while back, before the Gearbox kerfluffle, Jon St. John was offering commissions to say anything people wanted in Duke's voice.
Then Gearbox happened and now he doesn't offer this service anymore.

>> No.3701209

Thanks for advice, i'll sketch up a map
Besides i released my first doom map and people said that albeit it was very short they would never know its my first map if i didn't state it in description

>> No.3701210

>Then Gearbox happened and now he doesn't offer this service anymore.

Damn.....I'd be willing to pay him to say something :(

>> No.3701212

Just contact that LGR guy, he does a pretty solid duke impression

>> No.3701214
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Thanks, mostly I just push out a fast sketch of characters I am familiar with rather than work on polishing anything so the limits of what I can produce is pretty low. I'm glad that you like my sketchy drawstuffs though!

>> No.3701215

LGR guy?

Link pls.

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>> No.3701218

Young people getting into irony is the worst thing to happen to the internet.

>> No.3701219
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I be agreeing with da fellow elf, such vulgar, terrible name, yes?
pls meet at woods elf friend
do not bring weapons

>> No.3701221

This is why we shall pursue post irony.
It's the next big thing

>> No.3701223

I will never get how he does it.
It shoudn't sound so similar,yet it does.

>> No.3701225

I'll bookmark him.

>> No.3701226


That doesn't sound anything like Duke.

>> No.3701234

He's kinda on and off. Sometimes he sounds more like Duke, sometimes less.

>> No.3701238


Enough of this hmm haha brutal talk, what's going on lads? How did it get to this point?

>> No.3701243

graf decided to quit again?

let's see how long it lasts this time.

>> No.3701285

Check the next page. He's (understandably) grumpy about the project leader vanishing for months on end during a period of lots of change in the engine, so he's probably going to keep his work to GZDoom until there's some actual leadership or direction to decide what to do next and where effort should go.

Which is a shame, but also reasonable. It's just very poorly posted about initially because Graf gets angry on the internet while posting through an ESL filter.

>> No.3701294

Just announced and coming "very soon", D4T, a simplified rewrite/fork of D4D intended for GZDoom 1.8.6, Zandro 3.0 and D-Touch on Android. So now you can punch a devil(s) on a potato with your friends.



>> No.3701298

Maybe in some parallel universe.

>> No.3701309

I know, I know, but it would at least be a good idea to not piss off the "owner" of the project by completely changing the carpeting while they're away. Baby steps!

>> No.3701316

stimpack-chan player skin when?

>> No.3701325

Which game had the Mancubus first?
Is it a doom 2 or a doom 1 thing?

>> No.3701327

Mancubus were in Doom 2 first.

>> No.3701332

pretty sure there's already one

>> No.3701334

Well, I couldn't find it in the /vr/skins wad, which is where I would expect it to be.

>> No.3701335

They were introduced on the level "dead simple",right?
What a spectecular introduction.

>> No.3701352

You know what an enculeur is?

>> No.3701368

I think Arachnotrons were also introduced in Dead Simple.

>> No.3701372

Yeah,but they are secret on that levek,aren't they?

>> No.3701373

You fight them after you kill the Mancubuses and the walls open up. Have you even played Doom 2?

>> No.3701374

They're on the outer ring once you take care of the mancubi. At least on UV. Now that I think of it... I've never played Doom2 on anything except UV.

>> No.3701379

They are there on all difficulties. The skill setting changes how many there are (4 on easy, 8 on normal, 12 on hard)

>> No.3701381

I just ran to the exit.

>> No.3701386

>>Just used Gzdoom jump to get to the exit

I'm fairly certain there was no Doom rocket jumping or SR50 involved

>> No.3701402

I thought that you could just run to the exit,thus the name "dead simple"

>> No.3701405


im starting to think that MIFU died and no one gave the news

well now that both Doom and GZdoom devs are stagnated until the next quarter

how long until someone decides to remake JDoom using said Code?

>> No.3701416


you don't jump or crouch in doom, ever

>> No.3701418

Stupid crap like that is exactly why I played Doom vanilla before trying ZDoom and GZDoom.

>> No.3701419

Fucking hell, why must my country be so full of scum?

>> No.3701425

Tell me about it, you elected ex marxists ffs.
[email protected] nation

then again at least that twit got impeached...and you're not as fucked as venezuela

>> No.3701428

Just a hundred retards are enough to ruin everything.

At least the retards aren't in charge in Brazil.

>> No.3701432

I didn't vote for her. Either way it's not like we have any option: our right is left and our left is extreme-left.
You sure about that?

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>At least the retards aren't in charge in Brazil.


>> No.3701439

take in fact that Corvus is voiced by Alduin World Eater

so he can pretty much deliver a badass voice in heretic II, even if the game itself wasn't that good.

>> No.3701441

Herectic/Hexxen reboot when

>> No.3701443

Also, who the fuck let /pol/ get in?


>> No.3701447

People are just corrupted, not retarded, right?

>> No.3701449

Unless you get socialists, who are corrupted and retarded.

>> No.3701451

A little bit of column A, a little bit of column B.

>> No.3701453

Okay, I take back what I said about Brazil "not being that bad".

>> No.3701454


>> No.3701463

Raven can't be trusted to do their own thing anymore after the dog's breakfast they made of Singularity's development. :(


> For a day, the game was cancelled. Dates had been missed, and the project was nowhere near complete. So when the VP from Activision visited the studio and saw the true state of affairs, her assessment – while a shock – wasn’t overly surprising. She made it clear that she was going back to HQ to tell them to cancel Singularity.

> Perhaps the most painful realization was that we had brought this on ourselves. At the time, Singularity was the only original IP in development at any Activision studio. Unfortunately, the game was in bad shape. At least half of Singularity’s maps didn’t run on the PS3, several didn’t fit in memory on the 360, and even on high-end PCs we would see the framerate slow to a crawl during many combat sequences. This was after the deadline for the second Alpha had long since passed.

> The decision to can the game wasn't complicated.

>> No.3701465


In other words, level is done when everything is dead

>> No.3701471

In defense of DeadSimpleTard, I don't like the absence of jumping in Doom. I think there's no excuse for it since the engine has always supported gaining height and using it to clear gaps. But when level design relies on the absence of jumping, you don't jump.

>> No.3701483

Where do you guys post your wads? Doomworld or ZDoom forums?

>> No.3701484


Here, Moddb, Doomworld for Idgames archive and Zdoom forums

>> No.3701485

I burn it to CD's and drop them in people's letterboxes.

>> No.3701486

Does anyone even check that website? I know I don't.

>> No.3701494


its the only place where they can host Brutal doom, since the mods there are stupid about "muH Assets" just look at the shitstoms on Dawn of War area about certain mods like Sisters of Battle and TitaniumMod

Also, Foursite is Hosted there

>> No.3701495

The Brutal crowd.
The uploading-other-peoples-mods crowd.
You know the sorts

>> No.3701496

JohnnyDoom is pretty aight. My """favorite""" BDclone thus far. Think it's about time to go back to ketchup+Smooth tho

>> No.3701497
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>ywn be a good mapper

>> No.3701501

>The uploading-other-peoples-mods crowd.

Why the christ do these people do this?

Do they think they're doing the person a favor or something?

I may as well upload my own stuff there since these fuckheads will put it there anyway.

>> No.3701516

All it takes is practice practice practice. Most really good map packs/mods take years to do, even for so called good mappers.

>> No.3701518
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>It's another anon keeps falling down episode
Fucking holes

>> No.3701519

So far I have posted only on forums of Doomworld. Once it is finished proper, I'll put it up to Idgames.

>> No.3701521

I know, I've only been mapping for a few months but I feel like I'll never manage to replicate that feel that a good map has... I can't even explain it properly, when I play a good map I can instinctively tell it's good, but I can't seem to replicate that on my own maps.

>> No.3701525

Stream yourself playing Reelism. It's fun to watch.

>> No.3701527

>The uploading-other-peoples-mods crowd.

>> No.3701528

So says everyone. Even the good mappers.

Keep making and releasing things! If you're scared of feedback, release it here first and hide behind anonymity until you get a bit of confidence under your belt!

This is good. It means you have good taste. Go google that one long-and-cliche Ira Glass quote about creativity.

>> No.3701532

I regret this map's design. I mean, the visuals work, but the layout, yeesh...

Go play Grid Based Combat instead! It takes that ball and runs a lot further with it.

Yup. People upload other people's mods, and usually don't update them so the original creator gets yelled at for bugs they already fixed. Term talked about this recently.

>> No.3701537

Pretty much.
Doesn't only happen there. For example, steam workshops and whatnot also had this problem ( which became momentarily infinitely worse when paid mods were enabled ).
It is rather scummy in general.

>> No.3701538

I don't know if looking at someone sucking massively is fun to watch.

>> No.3701540

It is, I love seeing people get desperate when they roll dogs.

>> No.3701541

graf took a nap and explained his position in a less inflammatory way http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=54749

tldr; zdoom devbuilds will likely stop until randi pokes their head back out, gzdoom and qzdoom development will continue as usual in the meantime

>> No.3701543

I wish GZDoom didn't have bullshit netcode, or that Zandronum was up to date enough to play it.

>> No.3701545

Thanks man, I'll keep at it.

>> No.3701546

Yeah. HD multiplayer is something I've been hounding about doing.

>> No.3701548

Reminds me of Banished's workshop. There are at least 3 different mods proposing Japanese buildings.

>> No.3701549
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it hurts

>> No.3701552

I don't understand how some people actually like this look.

>> No.3701553

What's wrong? I've seen uglier Minecraft textures pack, if that's the complain.

>> No.3701557

>the rocket launcher actually looks like a dick

i see nothing wrong here

>> No.3701560

>textures a higher resolution than what the original level geometry is capable of pulling off aesthetically
>everything unpleasantly sharp looking (probably the brightness applied to these textures)
>3D models for HUD icons

>> No.3701621
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Ain't made sprites in a while, got some new tricks. All the clay models look pretty thick, but usually models are more realistically proportioned, or just thinner in general, but you can inflate them a bit with the displace modifier if there's no gaps. Also I think we better recognize things if their heads are bigger so I gave her a fat head.

>> No.3701654

That looks incredible.

>> No.3701656
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Still shit at animation.

>> No.3701663

I need that girl modded in H-Doom.

>> No.3701669

No :(

>> No.3701670


We need Samus and Crash too, but no one wants to do it

>> No.3701671
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>> No.3701676

he mouth look like my nanime buttswoles

>> No.3701681 [SPOILER] 
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seeing how there's fanart already of her Doom 4 incarnation

>which is cute as fuck, but somehow she looks like Noin and hilde from gundam wing

>dunno if its shitposting or autism

>> No.3701683

Ah, my favorite Doomchick

>> No.3701685

I would unironically have loved having Doomgal.
And not a sexy beauty like Samus, but a ugly scarred, muscular one.

>> No.3701691
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To beat the dogs,you have to become one

>> No.3701693

I don't think she is.

>> No.3701697

so close to achieving DOGPOT :(

>> No.3701703 [SPOILER] 
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you know that samus body is pretty much like crash in this fanart right?

>> No.3701709
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So a friend and I were discussing the BFG, and he came up with the idea of making a gun that shoots BFG tracers.

I tried to hack one together. I think it turned out OK.

I've put the wad at
if anyone's interested in it.

>> No.3701718
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>Finnaly at the end of endurance mode
>Mecha hitler

>> No.3701725

>only now I understand that Crash is the Doomgal from Quake 3

>> No.3701730
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It's like I'm really playing wolfenstein 3D

>> No.3701738

That's not Crash.

>> No.3701746

That's just genderswap Doomguy, even says "Doom Lady" and not "Crash".

Wouldn't be a bad concept for Crash though, but I always thought of her as the type that stays on base and trains newbies, rather than the type that actually goes out into the shit like Doomguy.

>> No.3701750


Crash names in Quake 3

>Doom Gal
>Doom Lady
>Shiny Butt


Pretty much this, Unless she pretty much saw action and cleared the starbase along with the doomguy in doom 2

>> No.3701794

>Crash names in Quake 3

>> No.3701795

From the bot chats.

>> No.3701796

The bots talk to each others in Quake ?

>> No.3701803

no shit sherlock

>> No.3701807

In Quake 3, yeah.

"Now that was nice manners. Bet you fart in public too.";
"Keep that up and you'll be REAL popular here.";
"I'm tougher than I look. Really.";
"My ~momma didn't raise no cream puff.";
"Just a flesh wound.";

>> No.3701809

Okay, but that's still not Crash.

>> No.3701819

Holy shit. That's way better than Unreal Tournament's insults.

>> No.3701825

Since we're speaking of Samus, Crash and Zdoom since yesterday


she and a few bots were programmed to keep talking, even if they were stuck on a map

Mr elusive did a great fucking job when he did Q3A bots system

>> No.3701828

Reinstalling Quake 3 as we speak.

>> No.3701838

The Q3 bots also have a shitload of text chat responses to react to certain key words in text chat, like swear words or late 90s memes like "evercrack".

>> No.3701840
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>> No.3701860
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>"still shit at animation" + filename

I don't think so, Jim

>> No.3701904

I made one but never added it because vrskins was already getting kind of large and I wasn't feeling like most people cared about skins by that point.


>> No.3701909

Priss lookin really good tho

>> No.3701912

Could work as some sort of radiation gun.

>> No.3701974

try playing shitty maps and dont do what they do

>> No.3701993
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Just don't do shit like this and you'll be fine.

>> No.3702006

>not "teleporting in a room full of hitscans enemies"

>> No.3702035

>archies behind fake walls
Pretty annoying most of the times, yeah.

>shotgunners behind the door
React fast, close the door, run for cover, or kill them before they can hit you.

>le distant chaingunners meme
Don't stand out in the open, use their constant stream of fire to cause infighting.

>> No.3702046

It's your fault for not using the report button.

>> No.3702054
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This ended up pretty cool. Soon done with main-parts of the map.

>> No.3702070

Nothing annoys me more than teleporting enemies behind the player, especially when it's overused.

>> No.3702074

Teleporting is overrated anyway.

>> No.3702089

I'm surprised there hasnt been any maps that are built around dreadnaught, with heavy exploring and actually needing the use of abilities to progress

>> No.3702123
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It's pretty interesting to find out that bots advice you to get a life when you mention programming.
Picrelated isn't that

>> No.3702189

What textures do you use? Or is that your own?

>> No.3702197

cc4-tex which is a mishmash of things.

>> No.3702241
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Term said yesterday on his page that Dreadnought is free to anyone who wants to mod it, in fact 2 people asked him about it, one i think being the anon who wanted to update the mod here on /vr/

also someone posted these news on /r/metroid, due to the week of Doomtroid Arts posted there from most images posted here on /vr/, to see if this is enough to make the community there wake up and do something on the same scale as we do every fucking day, mainly now that AM2R is "Dead" until someone manages to do something with the "released" SRC

in fact, i feel sorry for them, both G/Q/ZDoom supports the entire fucking map of Zebes, SR388 and Prime, even the videos posted it here before and the platformer code demonstrates that, also Dreadnought is compatible with a lot of megawads.

But the lack of motivation and maybe even the fear of nintendo hunting down their asses, as they did with AM2R and Uranium pretty much killed that, even Games Workshop, which was Worse than Nintendo in terms of Protecting their assets, Changed and stopped with that, shit there's even rumors of a "partnership" with hasbro for late 2017.

And Fed Force was a Financial failure, with most fans pointing that AM2R and even NuDOOM were the 2d and Prime metroid games that they were waiting for a long time.

its sad to see that, and its a franchise that i hold it dearly on my top 5.

>> No.3702278

These days I'd never work on a Nintendo related-thing.

>> No.3702323

Is there a place where I can find the total kill count of all Doom games (considering 100% kills)?

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All I have is this. Only counts Doom 1/2 I'm pretty sure.

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>tldr; zdoom devbuilds will likely stop until randi pokes their head back out,

So Hexen is going to stay borked for a while?

Well that's just fucking great.

>> No.3702361


all brazillian mappers, besides daniel are complete fuckwads

i used to visit the so called BRDOOM community, and it was a travesty of RE fansite disguised as doom community, also it was LoganMTM's sanctuary for his hatred against DoomWorld and other doom websites

>> No.3702367

No, everything`s just going to be happening in G/QZDoom.

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At this rate, I'm fairly convinced some people are more interested in the idea of continuing Dreadnought than the logistics of continuing Dreadnought.

There really isn't a lot more you can do to it, sans turning it into a TC.
I've noticed when people bring up the "what would you update?" question re: Dreadnought, very few of the answers are anything significant.

>> No.3702390

I honestly think that Metroid Dreadnought is complete. All it needs now are maps.

>> No.3702392

I've been trying to figure out how to remove hideous blood pools from BD for what seems like a year now. The ones that spawn under dead sprites.
I'm too retarded/ignorant of scripting to get it figured out.
Any doom-boiis have some input?

>> No.3702396

You mean beside the obvious "don't play BD"?
You can try to look for the flag that triggers when a corpse is generated.

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Thanks for the help, senpai.

>> No.3702415


i think is mostly this term

1. Fear of doing something bad, in case its the fear of any newbie mapper, in their case its the fear of do something that it doesn't honor Prime series, Valiant Itself feels like a "metroid" megawad already in most parts

2. Do something that would probably affect Metroid and Doom community, its Nintendo of America and Reggie is a fucktard.

3. Lack of interest due to Laziness, lack of planning or unity, the community itself is pretty much divided as doom was before. mainly due to the the prime x SM discussion

in fact both G/QZdoom supports pretty much everything by now.

Tl;DR there's nothing stopping them or even us in doing so, but the lack of interest, and in their case, Ebenizer Reggiscrooge Haunting them, pretty much kills it.

also from the reddit thread

"Why no Quake 3 engine?" Idtech 3 is boring to work

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>tfw your serious sam 2 saves keep getting corrupted after like the first 6 levels for no reason

>> No.3702452

>playing Serious Sam 2

>> No.3702453

TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItem ("GrowingBloodPool")

Remove this line from every monster.

>> No.3702509

I mean it's only Serious Sam 2. Even Croteam wants to distance themselves from that piece of a shit game.

>> No.3702512

Can't be as bad as Postal 3.

>> No.3702530

despite the numerous questionable design decisions, i thought it was a decent game. Co-op is funsies

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