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Serpent Riders Trilogy Anonymous Fri Dec 23 17:02:12 2016 No.3694828 [Reply] [Original]

Heretic, Hexen and Hexen II. Underrated and overshadowed by Doom and Quake. I prefer this series. Thoughts / opinions?

Anonymous Fri Dec 23 17:16:15 2016 No.3694849

I agree OP. Hexen is one of my all-time favorite games. it has buttloads of atmosphere, it pushed the doom engine further, and I always liked the hub system of interconnected levels. people always complain about the puzzles, but that didn't really bother me. I personally like the idea of adding more layers and not making it a mindless FPS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 17:34:14 2016 No.3694874 nobody ever talks about Heretic 2 it was a good a game, at least I remember it being good, dont know how it holds up

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 06:32:16 2016 No.3695668 >>3694874 It plays different from the others, but it was a pretty good adventure game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 06:51:50 2016 No.3695680 I love Heretic but could never get into Hexen because of the backtracking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 07:10:48 2016 No.3695692 >>3694874 Holds up pretty well. Just finished it recently. The Quake fire model is the sexiest things ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 08:19:23 2016 No.3695736 >>3694828 Hexen 2 was weak and made a wrong move in reusing four similar antique visual themes to what had been used in Dissolution of Eternity. I really like Heretic and Hexen though.

>>	NESfag Sat Dec 24 08:21:55 2016 No.3695738 Hexen 2 is great but fuck some of those puzzles. The first two worlds are the worsts although there is a particular one in Egypt that's a pain as well. The add-on is great, puzzles aren't as obscure and the new character is tons of fun to play with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 08:29:33 2016 No.3695743 File: 20 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3694828 Reminder that Heretic II exists and it is NOT Hexen. It's also quite playable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 08:32:41 2016 No.3695748 >>3694828 D'Sparil on Black plague possesses thee is the tightest shit

Anonymous Sat Dec 24 08:37:54 2016 No.3695751
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Was Heretic the last colorful FPS?

It still got that Wolfensteinish funkiness while everything from there onward, including Hexen, is just brown-grey "realistic" colored or grimdark edgy black.

Anonymous Sat Dec 24 08:58:26 2016 No.3695776

>>3695743
I wanted to play this but couldn't get it to work properly, couldn't get the music to work iirc.

Also setting the controls seemed a pain in the ass as there seemed to be a thousand actions, but maybe they're optional I haven't played the game enough to tell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 09:04:40 2016 No.3695781 File: 110 KB, 917x1200, Heretic Brom.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Its easy to forget that Heretic and Heretic 2 are one of the few representations of an Elf main character in fantasy video games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 17:15:20 2016 No.3696872 >>3695751 What about Quake 3?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 17:16:51 2016 No.3696876 >>3694828 I like Heretic 2 most of this series. TPP action game fits better than FPP shooter for game with medieval weapons and magic. And it was more diffrent thatn Doom/Quake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 18:24:17 2016 No.3697012 File: 114 KB, 800x600, Quake 3 Arena Screenshot 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3696872 Better than I and II (that basically invented brown-greycore) but still pretty monochromatic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 19:37:30 2016 No.3697139 File: 31 KB, 543x273, 236347.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3694828 Great series, Hexen being my favorite game of all time. I only wish we got Hecatomb, the true ending to the trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 09:18:41 2016 No.3699660 >>3697012 >>3696872 Unreal 1 did a great job of being colourful

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 09:47:47 2016 No.3699678 I really do wish for another game like Hexen again. Bit sick of TES series and the like.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 18:37:37 2016 No.3700284
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>>3699678
I'm afraid that if they make a new Hexen it'll be dumbed down considerably. By that I mean it'll probably remove the class choices, likely being stuck with the Fighter or a new but similar version, and less backtracking if any at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 18:49:08 2016 No.3700301 not enough mods. serpents resurrection and wrath of cronos are the only good ones

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:09:00 2016 No.3700420

>>3695751
I'd say only E2 of Heretic was like that. Rest of the game was pretty drab

Heretic was an alright Doom clone.

I absolutely hated Hexen as a kid, but after playing it recently and with a walkthrough in some areas, it's a really great game.

Never tried Heretic 2 or Hexen 2, is it worth?

Best series of them all in the era was Strife. Wish it had a sequel. I'd love to see Hexen get a remaster like this game did, with improved automap and logging of messages.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:16:20 2016 No.3700432 >>3700420 >I'd say only E2 of Heretic was like that Episode 3 is really colorful too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:25:15 2016 No.3700447 >>3700432 Typo, meant to say E3. E3 really did wow me, especially when you enter M2.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:04:09 2016 No.3700504

>>3700420
After playing hexen enough times, the only hubs i find enjoyable are the Seminary and the Castle, since the whole elemental portals thing gets really boring, and the Shadow Wood levels just feel drab and tedious, you have 3 levels but you have to visit each at least 3 times to get each key, then revisit each one to press 2 switches

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:12:17 2016 No.3700516
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>>3700504
The more I play Hexen the more I dislike Seven Portals but appreciate every other hub more. Shame since Seven Portals has one of the best tracks in the game.

Also have you played Deathkings? It's fucking amazing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:13:16 2016 No.3700517 >>3694828 >>3694828 shit opinion >>Bad/confusing level design. >>Need a guide for some of these games >>Weapons underpowered and enemies bullet sponges >>cheap deaths doom and quake are better

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:14:17 2016 No.3700519 >>3700517 And here comes the shitposting.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:20:20 2016 No.3700528

>>3695743
I know what you mean but Hexen at one point was quite literally Heretic 2, until the devs realized how different the it was and made it both into its own game but also still a sequel to Heretic by following the same villains and some repeat inventory items.

Hexen 2 and Heretic 2 are products of Activision buying Raven and making them capitalize on the brand names to increase sales instead of following through with the planned trilogy (Heretic > Hexen > Hecatomb).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:21:45 2016 No.3700531 >>3700516 Ive tried deathkings a bit but the first hub always gets me in a bad mood to finish

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:24:20 2016 No.3700536 File: 432 KB, 640x480, 2589034640.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3700531 That's too bad, I always felt Deathkings was better in every way to the base game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:16:58 2016 No.3700627 >>3700528 Hexen 2 was originally published by id, actually. Only its expansion was Activision.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 05:51:53 2016 No.3701276 >>3700420 >Never tried Heretic 2 or Hexen 2, is it worth? Heretic 2 is pretty good but don't expect anything like the original. Hexen 2 is meh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 06:32:04 2016 No.3701330 >>3700284 Full of cutscenes and voice-acting. With none of the desolation and isolation that helped make the games so interesting in the first instance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 06:47:08 2016 No.3701345 >>3700284 90s games were strong in the goofiness department. It's completely gone now.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 18:58:28 2016 No.3702546
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>>3700420
>Never tried Heretic 2 or Hexen 2, is it worth?
Hexen 2 is easily the weakest game in the series but it's not bad, just not great. The Portal of Praevus expansion was a big step up from the base game, though.

Heretic 2, while vastly different than the prior games, is really good. If you like Jedi Outcast/Academy then you'll love Heretic 2.

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