/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.3689617]

So /vr/, what's the current best handheld for emulation?

My hacked PSP of 5 years is finally dying, and I looked into things and discovered the strange possibility that the best emu-handheld may still possibly be a PSP running CFW, which is really odd.

Problem is all I give a shit about are results. Sure, there are handhelds out there with way better specs, but the reality is a hacked PSP can still play everything Generation 4 and below IN ADDITION to the fact that it also plays PSX games near perfectly and of course ISO-loaders for PSP games perfectly. If you give no shits about piracy it still seems like the best device for a pure "what it can actually do" perspective. Especially for GBA emulation the PSP is absolutely GOAT, the only time I ever preferred playing an emulator over the original.

So my question is this: Am I wrong? Because I actually want to be wrong. Is there a handheld out there that actually matches this thing? How is 3DS emulation in comparison.

[Anonymous No.3689652]

Vita can do most things the PSP can do (it can literally install and run PSP homebrew/games as if it was a PSP) and more. It was only recently blown open, so most things are still in development. Right now it already does GBA and SNES emulation better across the board, and with some more development, it should also be able to do playable N64 and DS emulation in the future. Native PSX emulation will be unlocked in February, until then there's a RA emu available that works fine for most games.

Plenty of PSP games and even some PSX games (Ape Escape) play better on the Vita due to the availability of a second joystick. Of course you also have access to vita piracy if you care about that.

Granted, right now, the Vita is significantly more expensive than a PSP and it can't do a whole lot more yet in terms of retro. So if you don't care at all about PSP/vita/dual joystick PSX, you might as well just stay with a PSP.

[Anonymous No.3689662]

gpd win

[Anonymous No.3689670]

>>3689652
Before I leave I also want to mention that emu on the 3ds is fucking awful. Literally worse than the PSP in every goddamn way. It can run some things (GBA and I believe SNES?) natively, but only to an extent. Some games straight up don't work. Anything past gen 4 is a pipedream Avoid like the plague.

[Anonymous No.3689694]

Psp is the only non PC non android thing to emulate arcade games flawlessly, at least cps and neogeo. That, and native PS1 emulation, makes it my favorite emulation portable even after all these years

[Anonymous No.3689701]

>>3689652
>>Plenty of PSP games and even some PSX games (Ape Escape) play better on the Vita due to the availability of a second joystick. Of course you also have access to vita piracy if you care about that.

I thought Vita doesn't have iso loaders yet?

Because if it does, then yes that makes it significantly better.

[Anonymous No.3689706]

>>3689694

This. Right here. Is amazing about it.

Considering the specs of the PSP I still have no fucking clue how they managed to get CPS2/Neogeo2 running flawlessly.

The fact that you can play shit like garou mark of the wolves on a PSP and have it run at 60fps is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWQu6KxTZaQ

[Anonymous No.3689719]

>>3689652
>RA emu

a wat

[Anonymous No.3689723]

>>3689701
You can install dumped vita games as homebrew and they'll play flawlessly as long as you do the save fix (Google it if you care). Not a real ISO loader, but it works. Major flaw is that you can't play any games, even if they're legit, that requires firmware 3.61+.

It does have a ISO loader for PSP though. You can run most PSP games through the native PSPemu now, using Adrenalin. I think there are a few games that don't work for whatever reason, and native PSX emulation isn't cracked yet, but the developer will continue working on it in February.

The Vita is shaping up to be a great multi game system nowadays. It's only problem is the fucking expensive storage.

[Anonymous No.3689728]

>>3689719
RetroArch, new friend. PCSX-ReARMed to be exact.

[Anonymous No.3689731]

>>3689617
PSP Go is probably the best in terms of portability, but >>3689652 seems to be the best right now in terms of capability.

I've been wanting to buy one of the older Vita models because they have that sexy LED screen, but they're still expensive as fuck.

[Anonymous No.3689842]

>>3689731

Never liked PSP Go controls.

PS Vita looks promising though. If the full crack goes anywhere near the level of PSP homebrew scene it's going to be god tier.

[Anonymous No.3689910]

I still use a PSP almost daily for gaming. It is still perhaps the best handheld for retro emulation out there. Installing CFW and the emus is easy. PSPs are damn cheap to buy too.

I'm not sure how well Vita can emulate buy you'll have to know beforehand that firstly, emus are still in development (whereas PSP are long finished and stable) and the fact that you'll have to pay a lot more cash.

Someone mentioned PSP Go here but I hated that, it was difficult to use and had a smaller screen, and IIRC it has a few issues with certain emulation software (correct me if I'm wrong)

So I'd say, stick with a PSP. If you *really* want an alternative, check out the GPD Win (Win 7) and Dragonbox Pyra (Debian Linux) handhelds/netbooks - but then again you'll have to pay a lot more money, even more than Vita. Good ol' PSP is your friend.

[Anonymous No.3690021]

>>3689617
It's not really that odd. If you were looking through your 5+ year old bookmarks.

[Anonymous No.3690083]

>>3690021
So name a better one then

[Anonymous No.3690201]

>>3690083
Your moms phone.

[Anonymous No.3690215]

>>3690201
Phones and their batteries were not intended for gaming. You're going to drain the thing within an hour.

[Anonymous No.3690241]

>>3690215
>my mom has a clapped out old iphone 4.
That's not the only clapped out old thing she's got

[Anonymous No.3690291]

>>3689652
>some PSX games (Ape Escape) play better on the Vita due to the availability of a second joystick.
Just saying but there's a remake of Ape Escape 1 in the PSP, the controls are more adapted to it.

[Anonymous No.3690427]

>>3689652
>N64 and DS emulation
Not likely. Emulation software of those two consoles are pretty bad on nearly all platforms. I mean, Drastic does a better job on a Mali 400 phone I have lying around than my old laptop. I mean, it is a laptop and it is old but still it is much better than a phone.

The chances of someone writing emulators from ground up for those systems is slim to none and Drastic is closed sourced.

Personally, a stable release of RetroArch is good enough for me so I am waiting for that while pirating Vita games and emulating stuff. Now if only memory card prices like you said wasn't ass. 8 gb just isn't enough ;_;

[Anonymous No.3690429]

>>3690427
>The chances of someone writing emulators from ground up for those systems is slim to none and Drastic is closed sourced.

Emulators for Vita I mean.

[Anonymous No.3690590]

>>3689706
>I still have no fucking clue how they managed to get CPS2/Neogeo2 running flawlessly.
As long as you write good code you can make things run on a toaster.
Have you tried the Doom/Heretic/Hexen PSP homebrews? They'll blow your fucking mind, smooth, stable 60 FPS, it's almost like playing the real things. Same thing with other stuff like Powder and the CPS2/NeoGeo emulators.

I'm not a piratefag but I can't wait for people to get more emulators and homebrews running on the Vita, the psp alone was pure wizardry, imagine the possibilities with a Vita, having those perfect controls and great Oled display.

[Anonymous No.3690607]

N3DS is has a higher base clock than the Vita so emulators run better. The N3DS also has a 240p screen which is perfect for emulation, everything SNES and down run at fullspeed minus fx chip games. Also the Vita OLED screen is prone to burn in for 4:3 games so that's a huge issue. The only thing the Vita is better at is PS1 emulation thanks to Sony's emulator, but even then not every game works unless you're in PSP mode.

[Anonymous No.3690625]

Android.

PSP is shit compared to android.

[Anonymous No.3690635]

>>3690625

[Anonymous No.3690646]

Android is shit. The lack of physical keys on a smartphone is already bad enough, let alone software wise. A real gamer would never use an Android to emulate.

[Anonymous No.3690654]

I know its not necessarily retro, but does anyone here have a Revo K101+?

[Anonymous No.3690927]

>>3690635
How is that even bait, psp snes emulation is laughable in comparison.

Don't tell me you think a psp is seriously more powerful than most Android phones on the market these days.
Not to mention android has way better emulators.

[Anonymous No.3690958]

>>3690927
top kek dude, it's not about power it's about playability. Have fun on your touchscreen or meme-mount for your dualshock.

[Anonymous No.3690970]

>>3689617
My vita ticks all these boxes.
Albeit my first and only experience with handheld emulators i think henkaku is awesome. They're still working on optimizing alot of the retroarch ports, at this stage GBA and PSX have fairly buggy sound but previous generations are flawless so far. I'm looking forward to more compatability with NDS and PSP emu support

[Anonymous No.3690980]

A Pyra if it ever comes out

[Anonymous No.3690981]

>>3690215
If you can properly admin your device you can control what runs and thusly its discharge rate

[Anonymous No.3691367]

>>3690981
>thusly
Protip: don't use millennial words if you want to be taken seriously. You're right. Don't ruin it with that shit.

[Anonymous No.3691374]

>>3691367
Protip: Don't use the word millennial if you want to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.3691420]

Is SNES emulation on the PSP actually bad? How can it be so bad, or is it just some autistic fucks who can't get over some slight gfx glitches?

[Anonymous No.3691429]

>>3689617
GPD xd.
It is an Android handheld with gamming controls. It runs pretry much everything before ps2 era.

[Anonymous No.3691447]

>>3691420
It's actually pretty unbearable. I don't buy into the emulation is the worst thing ever, OG console or bust meme but the slowdown on action games is actually unbearable.
It's pretty simple, the PSP isn't really powerful enough to run SNES games, the original 3ds can't handle them either.

[Anonymous No.3691520]

can someone recommend me some emulators for NES and game boy color?

for some reason retroach just freezes every time I try to save or load savestates, and the games get wiped clean as soon as you quit

[Anonymous No.3691526]

>>3691520

on the PSP

[Anonymous No.3691540]

I love this thing

[Anonymous No.3691965]

>>3691374
>taken seriously by a millennial
Toppest of keks kid. Pic related is all the fucks I give.

[Anonymous No.3691969]

>>3691540
What is it?

[Anonymous No.3691976]

>>3691447
when's the last time you've tried snes on an o3ds? there's a port of snes9x built for it that is quite good for what it is

[Anonymous No.3691982]

>>3690241
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.3691984]

>>3691969
Shitty Chinese handheld with an explosive battery. Don't bother with it.

[Anonymous No.3691994]

>>3691984
See I've been using GB Micro for GBA, NES, Sega, and GB. It's great.

For more, I have a PSP, and if I need more than that, I have shit on TV's with comfy controllers.

Micro does it for most shit and is tiny though.

[Anonymous No.3692126]

>>3689652
>and it can't do a whole lot more yet in terms of retro

It can play Wild Guns at almost a consistent 60FPS without frameskipping which is enough for me.

[Anonymous No.3692129]

>>3691982
You know god damn well who he was quoting you memeing underaged fuckwad.

>>>/v/

Stay there until your balls drop kiddo you're not welcome here.

[Anonymous No.3692208]

>>3692129
>Hurr only underage play modern video games!

You're the only one memeing, friend.

[Anonymous No.3692247]

>>3691982
>Which underage autist are you quoting?
You

[Anonymous No.3692264]

>>3692247
>autist
You're no older than 20.

[Anonymous No.3692273]

>>3691984
Can run Yoshi's Island at fullspeed tho.

[Anonymous No.3692284]

>>3692273
I wish they'd make a handheld with the Vita's layout already. The GPD XD seems swell (apart from its battery), but it uses the same crap layout as the 3DS which is shite for nearly all retro games.

[Anonymous No.3692293]

>>3692284
Literally the model before the XD, the Q9

Same internal specs too

[Anonymous No.3692294]

>>3692284
And there's nothing wrong with the battery from what I've seen

[Anonymous No.3692295]

>>3692293
Too big, looks like the Wii U gamepad. Perhaps if I used a backpack I'd consider it portable.

It's still a step in the right direction though.

>>3692294
It dies permanently if you use the wrong type of USB to charge the system.

[Anonymous No.3692382]

>>3692264
More that double that kiddo. Project much?

[Anonymous No.3694238]

what do you think of my psp? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSBbTQ5dmIk&t=5s

[Anonymous No.3694261]

>>3694238
nice, i have on my psp 30 psp and 10 psx games. have only a 32gb Memory Card, but works all this games on your psp? you should test it

[Anonymous No.3694268]

>>3690607
Not really. When you compare RA emulators you'll realize that vita is much faster than n3ds. N3DS doesn't have to emulate GBA and it has a very capable snes emulator as you say. However, since RA has integer scaling and some lighter shaders aren now possible + dat OLED it really looks nice.
Burn-in isn't much of an issue desu.

I'd say you can't go wrong with either but buying N3DS or PSVITA solely to emulate is a waste.

[Anonymous No.3694276]

Your phone with a clip on controller.

[Anonymous No.3694332]

>>3694276
Enjoy your red hot phone after 30 minutes of play.

[Anonymous No.3694483]

>>3694261
It all works fine there is only 2 downsides when you select the game menu from the home screen it pauses for like 3 seconds to load everything the other downside is the fact memory cards that large cost like £80

[Anonymous No.3694560]

>>3691374
yeah, nor greatest generation, silent generation, boomers, gen x, or gen y.

It's a word to describe a generation, but you make it sound like it means the same thing as hipster or something.

[Anonymous No.3694906]

What button do I press on PSP to change the shoulder buttons from L1R1 to L2R2 or to change the analog nub from left stick to right stick?

[Anonymous No.3695271]

>>3690607
No, the 3DS' 240p screen is horrible for emulation. Why? Because it isn't a 4:3 screen, so your only options are keeping it in a distorted 8:7 "pixel-perfect" mode or stretching the image to 4:3, but due to the 3DS' low screen resolution the latter will lead to bilinear filtering over some really shoddy scaling. On the Vita you can do an integer scale and still have a crisp, clear image.

>Burn-in
This meme is overblown, and there is a Slim model with an IPS screen.

Also I should mention that the Vita has the best D-pad to ever grace a handheld. The 3DS' D-pad, sadly, is in a horrible spot due to Nintendo giving priority to the Circle-pad. It feels like utter shit and will make your hands cramp up after extended use.

[Anonymous No.3695885]

>>3694906
errr is there a button to do that?

[Anonymous No.3696123]

>>3690646
>Autism Personified: The Post

[Anonymous No.3696250]

>>3694268
People on /hbg/ like to complain about the RA snes and gba cores running like shit, I guess that's changed? I'll take a OLED panel over my shitty TN display any day, so you got me there.

[Anonymous No.3697024]

>>3692208
Listen little shitface, don't you EVER memetext at me like that again cause I will fucking end you immediately. Now get the fuck off of my board you underaged shit for brains before I force you off.

[Anonymous No.3697241]

>>3697024
Look out lads we've got a real bad ass here.

[Anonymous No.3697314]

>>3690958

I mean they do have legit Android game console portables. Some of which are literally in a PSP case.

I dunno if they are any good though

[Anonymous No.3697351]

>>3694483
Can't you get microSD adapters for the PSP memory cards though?

[Anonymous No.3698036]

I think the Vita might die with the release of the Switch, so it could be open for hacking and would be a nice successor to the PSP. Though the memory cards might still be very expensive.

[Anonymous No.3698183]

>>3698036
>I think the Vita might die with the release of the Switch

This is so hilariously stupid.
Let me be very clear about this so that you won't be able to turn this into a non retro consolewars shitposting competition, I owned both a 3DS(now sold) and a Vita, I have no bias against either and enjoyed both, at least until the 3DS stopped getting games I liked.
/v/ and all the videogame boards have been calling the Vita a failure for years and praising Nintendo at the same time, let me remind you once again that the fucking Wii U got discontinued after barely four years while the Vita is still selling despite all the fuck ups from Sony and 4chan memes and they have no plans to discontinue it anytime soon.
To this day the Vita sells by sheer third party support alone, which is greater than the 3DS for the record, whereas the Wii U was so catastrophically bad on that they had to discontinue it, and now you come out and say the successor to the Wii U, which is repeating its very same mistake, might kill the Vita? You'll need some kind of planetary alignement for that. The Vita sells in japan, the only reason why Sony is bothering releasing new firmware is that it's selling steadily and people buy games, despite them fucking it up royally, which means Nintendo fucked up the Wii U much harder than Sony did with the Vita, which is actually impressive. Why do you think they still havent discontinued the 3DS and explicitly said it won't compete with the Switch? Because they know the Switch is a huge gamble to begin with and they desperately need a safety net, if it catches on they'll be fine, if it's a Wii U 2.0 they'll be in deep shit.

And no way Sony is gonna lower their guard on the Vita, the thing is making profit despite what this shithole says, they've pulled two fimware updates in two months just to show how much they "care".

[Anonymous No.3698194]

>>3697314
>Some of which are literally in a PSP case.
Sauce me

[Anonymous No.3698201]

>>3698194
Perfect PSX, some N64 (Mario, Zelda and GoldenEye run fine, Conker's runs like shit, but thats to be expected)
Also phone.

Not phone, but a bit more power in clamshell NDS-like case is GPD XD.

[Anonymous No.3698424]

>>3689706
>The fact that you can play shit like garou mark of the wolves on a PSP and have it run at 60fps is amazing.

Is it possible to have multiplayer on a hacked PSP?

Can two PSPs play together a game by WiFi or Bluetooth?

[Anonymous No.3698427]

>>3698183

Who cares nintendo makes smartphone games now.

[Anonymous No.3698440]

>>3698201
>3G

[Anonymous No.3698447]

>>3689617
How is it dying?

[Anonymous No.3698450]

>>3698440
>mobile internet

[Anonymous No.3698475]

Snes9x Euphoria runs Megaman X and Wild Guns perfectly.

The only problem is that it freezes games if I go to the menu while playing, and the savestates dont work, so its a piece of shit. I need one that works.

[Anonymous No.3698495]

>>3694906
Home button, Controller settings.
If you're on a vita, help yourself to the analogs, I don't own one.

[Anonymous No.3698528]

probably a psp with a ds3 controller with one of those phone holder things

[Anonymous No.3698546]

So, /vr/, what's the best model of PSP to hack into an emulation machine? I have the original PSP-1000 fat (owned it since the midnight of its release and it still looks brand-new except for some dust that's gotten between the screen and the case over the years), but I hear the 2000 and 3000 models both have better screens.

Or considering it's now finally getting hacked and homebrewed, is it time to invest in a Vita?

[Anonymous No.3698572]

>>3698546
3000 or E1000. The Go is great too if you don't mind the form factor.

The 2000 was an overall mediocre revision. Its screen is still pretty terrible and the D-pad is just meh.

>Or considering it's now finally getting hacked and homebrewed, is it time to invest in a Vita?
If you can find a model running firmware 3.60 or below, go for it.

[Anonymous No.3699372]

With Vita being hacked and most if not all of PSP homebrew working on it, is PSTV a good choice if all you want is a cheap compact system to emulate on TV and don't need portability?

[Anonymous No.3699458]

>>3699372
Yeah, especially since the PSTV has been discontinued. It's super cheap and you can buy it new without worrying if it's running a firmware above 3.60.

[Anonymous No.3699610]

>>3698572
Any guides on figuring out which firmware each model is running out of the box? I wouldn't mind one of those spiffy Japanese compact models.

[Anonymous No.3699620]

my trusty old PSP is still emulating everything i care about perfectly

maybe if vita gets a decent DS/N64 emulation down the line (which i doubt) i'll get one, but theres just something about the psp that i cant replace. perfect size/button positioning/fit for my hand

[Anonymous No.3699654]

>>3689617
I still have my psp1000 which still works since it barely got used.
It's hacked, with gb/c/a emulators and some psx jrpg's.
The square button was always a bit fucky by design, but still functional
Am I missing out on much by not having a 2000/3000/Go?

[Anonymous No.3699679]

>>3697351

Yes, but be careful -- the one I have cracked within a few weeks and if I'm not careful with it, the SD card doesn't seat correctly.

[Anonymous No.3699790]

Either the GPD XD, or probably now the Vita, if you can get one on 3.60

Probably the XD, if you can afford it.

[Anonymous No.3699794]

>>3699610
Any new, unopened Vita currently on sale is running 3.55 or below.

[Anonymous No.3700535]

>>3699654
bump for curiosity