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Overrated Difficulty Anonymous Tue Dec 20 11:41:28 2016 No.3688652 [Reply] [Original]

Games that ain't even that hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 11:56:59 2016 No.3688665 Medusa heads are overrated in difficulty, and the holy Water makes the game a cakewalk, but it still packs a decent enough challenge.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:15:54 2016 No.3688678 ikaruga

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:16:54 2016 No.3688679 >>3688665 Still only average or a bit above for an NES game

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:29:59 2016 No.3688709 CVIII will push your shit in though

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:30:51 2016 No.3688712 >>3688652 I agree. The only true bullshit difficult part is the hallway before death and the battle against death. Now 3, especially the US release, is another story.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:40:02 2016 No.3688723 File: 1.67 MB, 1546x794, 1417603122143.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3688652 >"nes" hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:46:24 2016 No.3688739 >>3688712 Yeah,that was a pretty random difficulty spike. Still got through it after a few tries though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 13:14:23 2016 No.3688790 GHOSTS N GOBLINGS BATTLETOADERS ANY CASTLERVANIA (HURR IM 2 RETARDED TO TRY HOLY WATER)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 13:54:29 2016 No.3688881 >>3688709 Played it. It felt about the same to me, actually.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 14:02:39 2016 No.3688897 File: 4 KB, 256x240, 56746-Rockman_(Japan)-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3688652 Once Yellow Devil's pattern learned is normal difficult

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 14:07:17 2016 No.3688905 >>3688897 This. I would even argue Mega Man 4 is harder overall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 14:09:07 2016 No.3688909 >>3688712 what the hell do you even do in that hall

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 14:19:36 2016 No.3688921 >>3688909 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 15:59:22 2016 No.3689112 >>3688679 But the NES average equals quite hard, so above average, even just by a little, means a damn hard game.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:02:30 2016 No.3689119

CV1 is hard, but how hard it is has been blown out of proportion. Like, the hallway before Death isn't that hard. It looks hard, it's daunting for sure, but at that point in the game you should be able to cartwheel around Medusas as easy as breathing. You should also know how to reliably beat Knights by this point. The only real challenge in the hallway is figuring out how much to move forward between attacks. Though I could see how it'd be harder if you never practiced jump attacks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:05:33 2016 No.3689124 I always have a good laugh when some people say Mega Man X is hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:13:45 2016 No.3689135 Contra is easier than any game posted ITT so far

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:15:39 2016 No.3689138 >>3688790 >battletoads >isnt even that hard go fuck yourself

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:27:06 2016 No.3689167

>>3688652
Pretty much.
Medusa heads are the only real annoyance.
Saw some lets player a year or so back fail terribly at it and so I just brought up the game in a browser I think.
Hadn't played in over a decade.
In general bishops are the most commonly challenging enemy in retro games.
If you can move diagonally than you present at least some difficulty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:36:41 2016 No.3689197 >>3688652 Still can't beat Dracula

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:38:09 2016 No.3689201

>>3688652
Yeah Castlevanias not the hardest game on the planet. However I think it's a good introduction to retro difficulty given how many elements that define Castlevania have become tropes. The knockback, clunky controls, items and enemies all blend together perfectly to show a newer player what these kinda old platformers are like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:53:58 2016 No.3689228 >>3689197 How hard have you tried?

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:54:18 2016 No.3689229

>>3688897
Yeah. 1 has some tricky sections but isn't that bad.

Now on buster only, absolute hell. Elec man and yellow devil go from fun to bullshit.
>>3688905
4's boss's always seemed to have the most competent AI to me. Yeah you have toad man but when they were idiots and designed him to have a unmissable attack they realized they had to make it stupid.
>>3689119
Death is pretty hard. A homing attack in a game as stiff as the classicvanias is brutal

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 16:56:19 2016 No.3689232 >>3688709 Truth Second loop is brutal

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 17:09:49 2016 No.3689249 >>3689138 t. casual shitter who never beat a hard game

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:28:04 2016 No.3689391 File: 205 KB, 256x363, Comix_Zone_Coverart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Once you learn to fight by alternating between punches and kicks the game's difficulty becomes average. Jumping past gaps are still a bitch though

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:40:04 2016 No.3689409 File: 167 KB, 351x463, 1482103823676.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Arcade style games with limited continues and password systems on old consoles are all absolute trash

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:43:35 2016 No.3689415 >>3688665 >>3688679 What I appreciate about Castlevania 1 a great deal is how it had unlimited continues. I don't think I could have stomached the game if I would ever have to restart from the beginning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:45:32 2016 No.3689416 >>3689409 t. trash

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:47:02 2016 No.3689420

>>3688897
I think a lot of MM1's difficulty comes from strange design quirks that weren't as present in the other games, and once you adjust there's harder games out there.

No e-tanks or upgrades besides the magnet, a few levels demanding you have a weapon fueled to progress, spikes bypassing mercy frames, weird shit like that can throw you off if you started with newer games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:48:48 2016 No.3689424 Batman (NES)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 19:02:45 2016 No.3689449 >>3688909 HOLY WATER O L Y W A T E R

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:51:51 2016 No.3689752 Can someone explain whats so hard about following the damn train?It's such a simple mission.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:59:16 2016 No.3689771 >>3689228 I tried so hard and got so far but in the end it doesn't even matter

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 22:02:20 2016 No.3689772
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>>3689752
>my first playthrough on the ps2
>that offroad racing mission where you have a sports car with shit wheels
Holy fuck the train was nothing. I remember going the opposite direction ,spawning tanks on the , and waiting for the other racers to come hit them and explode so I could win easier

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 22:03:22 2016 No.3689775 >>3689772 on the bridge*

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:26:49 2016 No.3690023 >>3688897 Even after looking up a guide specifically to beat yellow devil, I am still too slow or retarded to ever get past him. I don't know why. Never could get further.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 12:24:42 2016 No.3692541 >>3689201 >clunky controls I'll fight you

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 12:41:48 2016 No.3692557 File: 4 KB, 243x190, 1390739301693.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3689201 >clunky controls

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 12:56:59 2016 No.3692589 >>3688909 Jump the medusa heads and whip on your descend. You can stun lock the armors, but you must NOT miss your timing. Or you can jump and holy water for a cake walk.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 12:57:36 2016 No.3692591 >>3692589 >jump and holy water They just walk backwards out of it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 13:00:31 2016 No.3692596 >>3692541 >>3692557 Compared to Ninja Gaiden (that have almost the same jump philosophy) and Mega Man, they feel hella clunky.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 13:00:59 2016 No.3692598 File: 1013 KB, 352x348, 1391217455555.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3692596

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 13:01:50 2016 No.3692602 >>3692596 Not the same jump philosophy but putting that aside because it's unimportant, the difference is enemy placement and expected means to handle an encounter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 13:04:13 2016 No.3692603 >>3692591 Walk foward between the attacks. The whip will stun them enough to kill them and eat their axes away. Just don't stop moving foward while attacking.

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 13:36:34 2016 No.3692640

>>3692602

I feel they're the same, with Ninja Gaiden wanting you to go non stop and Castlevania being metodical. But jumps are much more of a commitment than other games.

>>3692598

Fixed jump arcs are clunky anon. They're not inherently bad, but they feel clunky to someone used to Mega Man or Mario.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 14:20:27 2016 No.3692729 >>3688881 You are objectively incorrect. In the final stage of CV3 a single bat literally takes off 1/5th of your life bar. And you can't exploit holy water stunlocks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 14:30:10 2016 No.3692756 All of them. Git gud, SonyMillennialBabbys.

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