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Anonymous Mon Dec 19 21:58:17 2016 No.3687945 [Reply] [Original]

Is the Master System the worst globally released Sega console?

Or should that title go to the Saturn, which was ultimately the reason for Sega's death?

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:21:07 2016 No.3687967

>>3687945
Nintendo had some sort of no compete clause Japanese developers had to sign in order to get a license to produce NES games. Aside from the reset button being on the console, the Master System hardware was decent. Still, it was probably the worst globally released Sega console.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:26:44 2016 No.3688036

>>3687945
The SMS did very successfully in Europe and South America and actually outperformed the NES in those markets. Europe got a lot of exclusive games and many ports of game gear titles to the system.

The Saturn did okay in Japan but pretty much failed everywhere else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:29:44 2016 No.3688039 32X or Game Gear

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:46:17 2016 No.3688047 >>3688039 >32X Add-on >or Game Gear Not a home console

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:18:45 2016 No.3688085 >>3687967 >Aside from the reset button being on the console, the Master System hardware was decent. I assume you mean the pause button being the problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:39:03 2016 No.3688110 File: 384 KB, 640x448, virtualonot-10.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3688039 You know, the Game Gear was the most successful not-Nintendo handheld until the PSP. 32X hurt though.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:50:41 2016 No.3688125

>>3688047

Didn't say home console, did it?

And Add-on or no, it's a platform for games that had a library exclusive to it

>>3688110

Sales =! quality, c'mon man.

Game Gear wasn't completely awful but the library is mostly ports and the battery life really kills the enjoyment of the thing.

Plus caps go bad but that wasn't really relevant in the 90s

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:06:25 2016 No.3688145 The SC-3000 was released in Asia, the pacific, Europe, and South America. Does that count as globally? >>3688036 >many ports of game gear titles to the system. No, most, if not all, of the GG/MS games were released on the Master System first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:12:22 2016 No.3688151 >>3688047 Those excuses are pretty dumb. The 32X is terrible, and like the Sega CD, it has it's own power supply. The Game Gear however may have backlight & color, they only last for a couple hours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:13:42 2016 No.3688156 >>3688151 Game Gear has an external power supply. The Mega CD and 32X can't be used without a Mega Drive, so they are add ons to the console.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 02:07:12 2016 No.3688193

>>3688125
The GG's selection isn't too bad. Sonic, GG Shinobi, loads of SMS ports -- some hurt badly by the screen resolution though, like Sonic 2 SMS, others are enhanced using the GG's 4096 color system palette (better than that on the Genesis, even if graphics still have the same palette count limitations) and stereo audio.
There's a lot of crap in there too, but that's something you could say for any machine.

battery life was a joke and you were fucking bound to the wall/car adapter, but the game selection was far from miserable

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 04:06:14 2016 No.3688310

Maybe. I think all of Sega's 'globally' released consoles are pretty damn good, however. They've made shittier consoles before the MS but they were only released in select parts of the word.

Master System, Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast are all great systems with great libraries of games. Master System is probably my least favorite of those four, but I still love it a lot.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 04:53:59 2016 No.3688367
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>>3687945
>Saturn, which was ultimately the reason for Sega's death

>implying the dreamcast wasn't trash and wasn't the final nail in the coffin
>fedora tippers or not, it was trash - a "next gen" system that barely looked better than n64 shared ports, a fucking disaster

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 06:04:10 2016 No.3688420

The master system has a pretty solid library, and things like the fm sound expansion really make it an interesting system. There's a solid library to get into there. Also, the Saturn was Sega's best console - the reason for sega's death was poor hardware launches and politics and communication between branches.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 06:25:21 2016 No.3688429

>>3687945
No, but this is one of the worst threads I've seen in a while.

>>3688047
>Not a home console
I could tell from the OP with "globally released Sega console" that you were an autist who was going to insist words mean what you think they mean. Words you didn't even write on top of that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 06:57:47 2016 No.3688446 >>3688367 If there was anything the Dreamcast did right, it was the graphics. It's true that some ports looked very ordinary. Episode 1 Racer looks literally identical to the N64 version.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 07:19:40 2016 No.3688460

>>3688429
>No, but this is one of the worst threads I've seen in a while.

It's pretty bad, but it's not as bad as the "How come Sega Genesis games are so much cheaper than Super Nintendo stuff?" thread. That one feels like it was made by a /v/irgin faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 07:37:12 2016 No.3688471 >>3687945 this and then

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 07:42:12 2016 No.3688475 >>3688036 The European SMS games are great. Has a ton of great games. The SMS was capable of awesome visuals, and even handled 16-bit ports with aplomb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 07:44:23 2016 No.3688478 >>3688039 Game Gear was around for 7 years. They should have released a smaller, more efficient version in 1993-94, which could have shifted the tide seriously.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 07:53:27 2016 No.3688481 >>3688156 > this much autism I bet you are a collector fag who spend his life making stupid 'rules' to store his 'collection'

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:52:15 2016 No.3688613

>>3688145
>No, most, if not all, of the GG/MS games were released on the Master System first.
Pretty sure a lot of the later Master System games after '91 (when they stopped supporting it in the U.S.) were Game Gear ports like all the Sonic games and Virtua Fighter Animation.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 11:00:07 2016 No.3688621
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Sales non-withstanding every Sega console released is good.

Now, I wonder what would've happened if they had released the 32x as a standalone system like they initially wanted to...

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 11:04:18 2016 No.3688627
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>>3688478
The Nomad was intended to also be a scaled up GG (aka Game Gear Plus), but kept being delayed due to battery issues.

The technology simply wasn't ready for a color handheld yet. I'm surprised Nintendo was able to get the GBC to have decent battery life.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 11:35:59 2016 No.3688645
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>>3688478
What about the Kid'ss Gear model they released in Japan?
>>3688621
It would've bombed just like the 32X, considering it would've still been cannibalized by the Saturn.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 11:38:04 2016 No.3688649

>>3688627
>The technology simply wasn't ready for a color handheld yet. I'm surprised Nintendo was able to get the GBC to have decent battery life.
GBC came out in '98 and they already made the original Game Boy smaller with the pocket revision. Technically speaking, the GBC was really a Game Boy 1.5.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 13:06:57 2016 No.3688773 >>3688367 Dreamcast lacked third party support because of the Saturn. The Saturn reached into the future and fucked the Dreamcast over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 14:35:05 2016 No.3688958 >>3688627 >I'm surprised Of course you are. Anyone who knows the first thing about LCDs isn't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:00:33 2016 No.3689340 >>3688367 Dreamcast was successful, it just wasn't enough to save Sega from the failures that were the 32X/Saturn.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:14:01 2016 No.3689363

>>3688773

That's not true you see they both fucked themselves over.

The Japanese Saturns owners & third party developers were mad that they had a console which had a strong and expanding player base in Japan, then all of a suddenly it's cut prematurely plenty of high profile games there were intended for release in 1999-2000 get canceled.

Japanese third party devs and saturn owners then ask themselves why the hell should we bother with the Dreamcast if despite being selling good they can at random just shaft the thing.

This sealed the fate of the Dreamcast in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:42:39 2016 No.3690282 >>3689363 Well lookie here. A 13 year old kid from brazil figgerd out that the CEOs of game giants have been trying to work out for years.

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