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What are some good fighters NOT named Street Fighter or King of Fighters?

>> No.3685346
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rival schools.

that's it.

>> No.3685348

>>3685338
Virtua Fighter

>> No.3685349

>>3685346
This right here.

Though if you dont mind silly shit BAT is solid.

>> No.3685350

>>3685338
Guilty Gear X
Samurai Shodown
Tekken (specifically, 3 and Tag)
Marvel vs Capcom
Capcom vs SNK 2

Cyberbots
Dead or Alive 2

>> No.3685357

>>3685338
Tekken and >>3685346

>> No.3685364

Soul Calibur
Galaxy Fight

>> No.3685428

smash 64
melee

>> No.3685439

>>3685338
Gundam Battle Assault 1 and 2 are the most fun you'll have with a completely unbalanced fighting game. I definitely recommend them, me and my friends can spend longer playing them than "real" fighters because the shitty balance leads to hilarious situations and turn arounds.

>> No.3685494

>>3685338
Bloody Roar

>> No.3685531

>>3685338
Mortal Kombat

>> No.3685546

>>3685531
OP said good fighting game

>> No.3685556

>>3685546
Mortal Kombat

>> No.3685575

>>3685556
OP said GOOD fighting game

>> No.3685598

Mortal Kombat

>> No.3685615

>>3685598
OP said good fighting game, not shit button masher

>> No.3685617 [DELETED] 

>>3685615
>>3685575
*rattles tits* *rattles tits* *rattles tits* *rattles tits*

>> No.3685626

>>3685617
Im sure this means something in your autistic mind

>> No.3685653

>>3685338

Mortal Kombat 2
Killer Instinct 2

>> No.3685656

>>3685338
last blade 2 my nigga

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>>3685338

Samurai Showdown II

>> No.3685667
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>>3685653

>> No.3685669

Darkstalkers

>> No.3685673

>>3685662
>Showdown
McFucking disembowel yourself.

>> No.3685674

>>3685338
Vampire Savior
Bloody Roar 1, 2 ,3
Garou
Breakers Revenge

>> No.3685682

>>3685439
Some general info here.

First of all, most fighters really copy/build upon very few games: Street Fighter II, Marvel VS Capcom/Darkstalkers, and Virtua Fighter. There's also Smash Bros. which is neither of the above, but it just doesn't fit fighting game genre that well, and probably several other games like Power Stone or MK, but they're less important today anyway.

SF2 sparked the popularity of fighting game genre back in 1991. Needless to say, most old games from 1991-1994 were SF2 clones. Think MK1 and 2, Fatal Fury 2, Art of Fighting, Samurai Shodown, (insert SNK games)… The newer games in these series evolved with the genre, but in the core they remained mostly the same.

Most ArkSys games like Guilty Gear (and a lot of 2D other anime fighters like Gundam ones) are so-called "airdashers", named so for the main ability in the game—a sub-genre of sorts which started with Darkstalkers. It's not a very descriptive name though: these games usually also have the ability to chain normals, sometimes EX moves, air combos and so on. If you see a game where an anime character launches his opponent into the air and does a huge combo, that's probably an air dasher.

Marvel VS Capcom is also technically one of them, but it builds upon the formula with its over-the-top combos, striker/tag team system, and a lot of other stuff. These games are fun and still played competitively, but they're not everyone's cup of tea (some things seem plain broken to me, and often I simply don't understand what's happening on the screen).

Now as for 3D fighters, they were all hugely influenced by Virtua Fighter. Its formula is almost completely different from 2D games: juggles, hitting enemies on the ground, sidestepping, and almost no jumping—these are the key features of its mechanics. Tekken and Dead or Alive build heavily on this formula, but also alter it quite a bit, needless to say.

Aaand this covers most fighters really.

>> No.3685693

>>3685682
Actually almost all early "3D" fighters are extremely similar to 2D games, VF pretty much just being another SF clone when it was first released.

>> No.3685694

>>3685615
Mortal Kombat

>> No.3685697

>>3685694
You seem confused, OP asked for a good fighting game.

>> No.3685706

>>3685697
mortal kombat

>> No.3685708

>>3685706
No anon no, OP asked for a good game, not a bad game

>> No.3685717

>>3685693
Have you even played the first VF? It was very different for the reasons I've already mentioned. Add to that different blocking mechanic, no fireballs, dragon punches and so on. It was an entirely different engine, only with some very general similarities.

>> No.3685728

>>3685717
I have it is very similar, being on a different engine means fucking nothing, of course it was on a different engine all the SF2 clones are on different engines what difference does that make.

> It was very different for the reasons I've already mentioned
Except it wasn't VF1 had no side stepping and jumping was the same as what you see in standard 2D games, you also have DP style moves not that that matters since a DP is not what defines a 2D game.

The games evolved overtime to be something different but saying they started out like that is just ignorant.

>> No.3685747

>>3685682
>>3685728
Juggling is also not mutually exclusive to 3D fighting games

>> No.3685749
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DBZ Super Butouden 2

>> No.3685751

>>3685749
lol

>> No.3685762

>>3685749
Game sux

>> No.3685775

>>3685708
Mortal Kombat 3 Ultimate

>> No.3685783

>>3685749
game bad!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.3685785

>>3685775
OP asked for a good game, not a shit game anon, please learn to read

>> No.3685789
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>>3685785
Mortal Kombat 3 Ultimate

>> No.3685796

>>3685789
Op asked for a GOOD fighting game, not a shit one

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Not a traditional fighting game but Bushido Blade is amazing.

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>>3685796

Mortal Kombat Trilogy

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>>3685762
>>3685783

git gud

>> No.3685808

>>3685804
OP asked for a good game not a shit game, anon

>> No.3685815
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>>3685808

Mortal Kombat is good.

>> No.3685816 [DELETED] 

>>3685808
>>3685796
>>3685785
>>3685708
>>3685697
*rattles tits even harder* "IM NOT MISBEHAVING I HAVE B'AWWTISM"

>> No.3685827

>>3685815
>Mortal Kombat is good.
No its not

>> No.3685880

Garou, Mark of The Wolves, Virtua Fighter series. Virtua Fighter 2 is to 3D fighters what Street Fighter III is too 2D fighters.

But, as >>3685682 said, fightans boil down to the same few formulas. Garou is basically SNK's Street Fighter III.
The fighting genre can't evolve beyond that, that's why its popularity is quickly dwindling. Or we're playing Street Fighter 2 clones, or Virtua Fighter clones or gimmicky shit like Mortal Kombat and anime crap.

>>3685749
Bad anime shovelware. Hyper Dimension is the only good retro Dragon Ball game.

>> No.3685893

>>3685880
>Hyper Dimension is the only good retro Dragon Ball game.

HD is a good game, but it doesn't really do anything better than SF II.
Super Butoden 2 has enough differences to other fighting games in a unique way, and it still has a fanbase that plays it online (mostly asians and mexicans, though).

Anyway, do you have any actual complaint about Super Butoden 2? How much have you played of it?

>> No.3685901

>>3685880

>[x] is [y]'s SF III

I hate faggots like you, parry my cock if you can, bitch.

Also MOTW is just Fatal Fury dumbed down for casuals.

>> No.3685905 [DELETED] 

>>3685880
Virua fighter 2 had no side step or 3d movement either.

also virtua fighter is a garbage series overall whos only claim to fame is using polygon graphics when most games in the genre were sprite based.

>> No.3685938

>>3685682
>Now as for 3D fighters, they were all hugely influenced by Virtua Fighter

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO! Just... NO! Virtua Shitter may have been first but Tekken is what influenced it all you dumb bitch.

>> No.3685942

>>3685938
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve. if you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

>> No.3685952

>>3685804
Isn't MK Trilogy broken as hell?

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>>3685905
>also virtua fighter is a garbage series overall

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>>3685338
Virtual On is incredible.

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Rage of the Dragons

>> No.3686038

>>3685938
Seiichi Ishii was one of VF's designers along with Yu Suzuki. After finishing the game he joined Namco and made Tekken.

Also, VF2 was a breakthrough hit for Sega in Japan, and a system seller for Saturn there. The game still maintains a following there, although of course it got smaller after Sega's sad fate. AFAIK Tekken has been getting less and less popular in Japan with every new installment.

VF2 was just as big as Tekken 2 or 3 in Japan, selling about the same amount of copies (around 1.3 mln). Tekken 1 sold roughly half of that (0.77 mln). VF is to Tekken what Dragon Quest is to Final Fantasy, it simply never caught up in the west due to circumstance but in fact inspired its counterpart.

>> No.3686042

>>3685338
The Real Bout: Fatal Fury games
You niggers need to play these games now.
>>3685938
Get a load of this guy

>> No.3686048

>>3686042

>RBFF

This, RB Special is the pinnacle of 2D fighting if you ask me. (not the PS1 port that got the double plane mechanic removed though)

>> No.3686054

>>3685984
Hes right, VF is an awful game(s), which is why its dead

>> No.3686063

Seconding strongly:
Real Bout Fatal Fury 2
Vampire Savior
Samurai Spirits 2
Virtua Fighter 2
Project Justice
Bushido Blade
Last Blade 2

>> No.3686097

>>3685728
I don't know what else to say. Did we play the same game?

By different "engine" I mean that it differs vastly from most SF/MvC mechanics.

> Except it wasn't VF1 had no side stepping
True, but there's still some side movement involved. Some moves take advantage of it, like Wolf's grab. It appeared later in VF3 (1996).

> jumping was the same as what you see in standard 2D games
Not really. VF jumps are long and barely controllable, with pauses after landing, so using them is very risky and requires technique. There's no such thing as move cancelling in VF, so jump-in kick doesn't come with "free" frame advantage. I think it's redundant to mention there are no "aerial rave"-style combos in it too. And also there are OTG finisher jumps which aim automatically, a feature unseen in 2D fighters.

This goes a separate way from almost every 2D game convention about jumping: jumping as evasion, mixup, crossups, jump-in combos, etc.

> you also have DP style moves not that that matters since a DP is not what defines a 2D game.
It is still very different from most conventions in 2D games. It has no cancelling, no hitboxes, no projectiles, the jumps play very different role, you're vulnerable on the ground, etc. It's as different from SF2 as a fighting game can possibly be.

>>3685747
It isn't of course, but the way it's handled in 3D games is very different. In 2D games usually you can't just juggle with normal moves because you will get a reset after 1 hit. Or you can make a chain combo like in MvC, but it's just different.

Technically, they can be a bit like each other. There are games which specifically allow for longer juggle combos, take SFA3 or KoFXIII for example. But 3D allows for much longer and easier juggles which may involve walls, OTG hits, and even OTG launchers.

>> No.3686107

>>3686063
>>3686042
>>3685901
Never played Real Bout 2 but looked into it after seeing some matches online.

I've played FF2, 3 and Special, and Garou of course. I'd try RB but the art style is a bit off-putting for me. And knowing FF Special, sidestepping is a bit broken.

What is it about RB2 that makes it special?

>> No.3686109

>>3686054

>all dead series are awful

get a load of this casual pleb

>> No.3686117

>>3686107
Nothing about RB2 is that special compared to the other RB games. In fact it's the least special out of all the RB games, although this was done mostly for balance.
What makes RB2 different from the other FF games is how it was the last game with the 2 line system and that it's probably the most balanced game in the series.
RBFF 1 is quite a bit different from RB Special and RB2 though, so I guess you can say that one is the most special.

>> No.3686132

>>3686097
>There's no such thing as move cancelling in VF, so jump-in kick doesn't come with "free" frame advantage.
Thats not how jump ins work in 2D games

>And also there are OTG finisher jumps which aim automatically, a feature unseen in 2D fighters.
Except its literally in multiple games most notably Vampire/Darkstalkers series.

> It has no cancelling
It has strings, strings are a form of canceling

> no hitboxes,
Uh, yes it does, dont be retarded.

>It's as different from SF2 as a fighting game can possibly be.
Its not, it shares all the same basic concepts.

> In 2D games usually you can't just juggle with normal moves because you will get a reset after 1 hit
This is completely false, at this point im not even sure you actually play fighting games, even a quick search on youtube is proof on how wrong you are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN7S2Sci7aQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRJfuUYRz2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BG58tywljI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSu6SeJuhzU

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>>3686109
>Plays VF
>Calls others casual

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>>3686143

>VF
>casual

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>>3685338

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>>3686152
>VF
>Not casual

>> No.3686164

>>3686132
>Thats not how jump ins work in 2D games
It is. The whole point is that your normal gets cancelled by landing. You get frame advantage and you can combo jump-in into standing/crouching normal.

> Except its literally in multiple games most notably Vampire/Darkstalkers series.
Not to the same extent.

> it has strings, strings are a form of canceling
I mean cancelling moves into specials/supers, cancelling of jumping normals by landing, special into super cancelling like in SF3 and so on. It's not cancelling, it's more like "target combo" in 2D terms. A pre-determined combo of sorts.

> Uh, yes it does, dont be retarded.
VF is all about frame data and priorities. Hitboxes are technically there but they play almost no role to speak of.

> Its not, it shares all the same basic concepts.
It's similar only in a side view, giving the players a few selectable characters, etc.

> This is completely false, at this point im not even sure you actually play fighting games, even a quick search on youtube is proof on how wrong you are
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN7S2Sci7aQ
Find me at least one tournament video with any of these combos. I'll wait. These are obvious bugs which are specifically replicated.

> SFIII Oro
Notorious buggy move.

> Zero 3/Aplha 3 V-Ism
See >>3686097 : "There are games which specifically allow for longer juggle combos, take SFA3 or KoFXIII for example."

You might as well post any other bug or even hack of a game and call it the same as VF and other 3D games.

So the point stands: VF, Tekken and other games with similar mechanics break almost all SF2 game mechanic conventions.

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>>3686152
>VF
>not casual

>> No.3686176
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Gundam Wing Endless Duel

>> No.3686192

>>3686164
>It is. The whole point is that your normal gets cancelled by landing. You get frame advantage and you can combo jump-in into standing/crouching normal.
Um, no its fucking not, jumping attacks have landing recovery, the only time you combo of a jump in is when you link because of the hitstun from the jumping attack, holy fucking shit.

>Not to the same extent.
Its exactly the same mechanic, like literally the same mechanic.

>VF is all about frame data and priorities. Hitboxes are technically there but they play almost no role to speak of.
Either this is bait or you are entirely clueless when it comes to fighting games, which going by everything else you have said doesn't surprise me at all.

No one plays CE, look at literally any ST tournament and you will see juggles, especially from DeeJay and Bison

>Oro's chicken scratch combo is a bug
Ok its obvious you are just trolling at this point

the point stands VF was just another Street Fighter clone and did literally nothing new nor did it change the formula in any way.

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>>3686161
>VF
>casual

>>3686168

can you translate that memepic into english?
Oh wait, it just seems to be some nigger on twitter, don't bother. VF is an asian game, blacks can't get into VF's technical gameplay.

>> No.3686205
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>>3686203
>VF
>not casual

>> No.3686212

>>3686205

how does Daigo fare on VF tournaments?

>> No.3686214

>>3686176
This. Best fighting game on SNES, and one of the best Gundam games.

>> No.3686218

>>3686192
not him but ST came out after VF

>> No.3686221

>>3686218
Precisely why i dont post ST to begin with.

>> No.3686224

>>3686214
Tallgeese has a perfect frame advantage tho

>> No.3686225

>>3686143
>>3686161

What are you on about? VF is widely considered to be hard to learn and hard to master, and only japanese players actually got good at it.
What 3D fighting game would you say is "less casual" than vf?

>>3686205
This pic will never not be stupid because they guy is comparing 2 completely different kind of games, and he's only saying that VF is a lot less random, so basically you need to know what move to do as a counter attack, as opposed to something like SF which allows for shit like footsies and mindgames. But he never implied VF is easier or more casual than 2D fighting games, in fact I'd say it's the opposite.
But anyway, that bait pic from /v/ will continue to be used by ignorant people like you, so whatever, bait away with it.

>> No.3686227

>>3686212
Why would Daigo play casual kusoge such as VF?

>> No.3686228
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>>3686227

>VF
>casual kusoge

You're a funny dude

>> No.3686229

>>3686225
>VF is widely considered to be hard to learn and hard to master
Said no one ever

>> No.3686231 [DELETED] 

>>3686225
>What are you on about? VF is widely considered to be hard to learn and hard to master
lolno, the only people who claim this are clueless VF dickriders who dont even play the game.

>> No.3686232

>>3686229
>implying
Why don't you answer the whole post?
What other game do you consider to be harder? Tekken?

>> No.3686235

>>3686231

>vf dickriders

Nice meme, kid. Why don't you reply to the rest of the post? You can't, right?

>implying you play video games.

The only video game you play is the shitpost on 4chan one.

>> No.3686239

I see fighting game threads on /vr/ are as shitposty as always, but where is the guy who always spammed the board saying "you fags only play fighting games on single player", etc, etc? He was always on these threads.

>> No.3686241

>>3686225
>What 3D fighting game would you say is "less casual" than vf?
Zero, VF is literally the most casual 3D fighting game, even super casual shit like DoA has more depth to it, which is why they could add VF characters to the game so easily.

>> No.3686246

>>3686241

So you genuinely think Tekken is more hardcore than VF?

>> No.3686247

>>3686232
>What other game do you consider to be harder? Tekken?
Pretty much every fighting game, VF is about as basic and casual as a fighting game can get while still being a fighting game

>> No.3686251

>>3686246
So you genuinely think its not?

>> No.3686254

>>3686241
>>3686247

>a fighting game where button mash doesn't lead you anywhere
>casual

>actually think Tekken require more skill than VF

Yeah, you niggers are either trolling or retarded.

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>>3686251

You genuinely believe it is?

>> No.3686257

>>3686254
>2 button garbage
>literally super easy to mash
>literally zero mechanics outside of very basic mashing
>Actually thinking this 2 button mash fest requires more skill than Tekken

You probably dont even play the game

>> No.3686265

>>3686254
Is virtua fighter 2 for genesis any good?
I dont have saturn or 32x

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>>3686232
>What other game do you consider to be harder?
Bloody Roar

Debate me.

>> No.3686269 [DELETED] 

>>3686257

>he thinks the "2 button" meme matters when VF is all about sequences
>he thinks Tekken actually requires skill at all

You probably don't even play video games.

Also you type like shit, not related to the discussion but still.

>> No.3686272

>>3686265
Not him but it's surprisingly playable, but not really much like the actual VF2.

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>>3686269
>Gets BTFO
>you type like shit

Classic

>> No.3686284

>>3686276

>ignores the point made in the post
>only points out the part that actually announced wasn't about the actual discussion

>> No.3686285

>>3686284
He's shitposting you nigger stop giving him (You)s

>> No.3686287

>>3686284
>>3686285
Almost exactly a minuet apart.

Really makes you think.

>> No.3686290

>>3686287

>a minuet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1DDSLdDOo

>actually believing Tekken requires more skill than VF

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>>3686287
embarrassing desu

>> No.3686298
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>>3686292
Like literally the only people who try this are the ones samefagging.

>> No.3686302

>>3686290
Im not even the Tekken guy (though he's right)

Im >>3686268

>> No.3686303

>>3686298

I'm >>3686284 and >>3686290

but yeah, taking screenshots really doesn't do anything, anybody can easily MS Paint over them like you did.

Still, it's pretty funny that you went from "arguing" about vf being casual (which you olympically lost), to crying samefag as your only way to defend yourself. Shitposter.

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>>3686302
>though he's right

Tekken is as casual as it gets when it comes to 3D fighting.

>> No.3686305

But to get back on topic

Mortal Kombat

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>>3686304
So you concede defeat? Bloody Roar is a harder more complex game than virtua fighter.

>> No.3686310

>>3686307

I actually refrain from opinionating about it because I only played once, thought it was funny in an edgy way, but didn't actually invested much time on it and its mechanics, so while I'm not conceding defeat, I'm conceding you the benefit of the doubt.

Tekken is definitely more casual than VF though, no doubt about it.

>> No.3686329

>>3686305
kek

>> No.3686334

>>3685338
World Heroes 2
Kabuki Klash
Rabbit
Waku Waku 7

You know, SNK fighters, most of them in the beginning were kinda blerg with the sole exception of WH2 (i am not counting the main series like FF, SamSho & AoF) but once we got more Faitans developed by other companies for the NeoGeo, many of them were quite decent, like the ones i mentioned before, and you know what at least the have that Capcom for the most part did not?

Variety.

To me SF didn't reached its full until Super Vanilla and Super Turbo, at least in the competitive scene, then there's Darkstalkers which was the 2nd main series, and then there was the Marvel series, XMcota was more of an experiment that was just there, but led to the MUCH refined MSH, and of course the Vs series. but aside from those, they only have the SF sub series Alpha, and Cyberbots.

>> No.3686342

>>3686029
>developed in mexico
>not even joking

>> No.3686350

>>3685893
Only Dragon Ball fans can stand Butouden. It's slow as fuck, the movement is strange and it boils down to spamming the same attacks, just like other Dragon Ball games like UB 22 and Final Bout (the fucked up Butouden).

Hyper Dimension, Power Rangers Fighting Edition and Gundam W Endless Duel are the best SNES-only fightans. And HD is the worst of the three.

>> No.3686358

>>3686350
>It's slow as fuck

Use the turbo mode.

>the movement is strange

Strange? What do you mean?

>and it boils down to spamming the same attacks

The same attacks? You've got normals, ki-based powers (both offensive and defensive), meteo attacks... there's enough variety, I doubt you can win against an experienced player spamming the same attack over and over.

>just like other Dragon Ball games like UB 22 and Final Bout

What? Nah, those are legit shit games, don't dare to compare SB2 with these.
Also, how the fuck is Final Bout a "fucked up Butouden"? UB22 I could understand, but Final bout?

>> No.3686380

>>3686257
Go play VF2 against a skilled human opponent and not just against the CPU on the easiest setting then. VF2 on a competitive level is quite complex.

>> No.3686383

>>3686380
Its really not, its barebones and lacks depth as far as fighting games go. it literally has nothing that pretty much every other fighting game doesn't already have, the game is extremely basic.

>> No.3686385

>>3686383

>t. Tekken baby

>> No.3686386

>>3685338
Breakers Revenge is amazing fun, and so is Fighter's History Dynamite (Sho is 11/10 fucking retarded, and then half of the rest of the cast is also retarded, and I love just how stupid it is).

I dunno if I'd say they're actually good fighting games though. They're definitely enjoyable.

>>3686029
I wish this was actually a good game. It's cool as fuck.
it's also more busted than either game I mentioned above

>> No.3686392
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>not a single mention of shaqfu
never seen a thread so full of scrub

>> No.3686407

>>3686386
>Sho is 11/10 fucking retarded
He's literally a 28 years old high school student. Also, the Clown in that game was a pedophile.

>> No.3686447

Kaiser Knuckle

>> No.3686462

>>3686385
Even Tekken has more in the way of depth and complexity than vitua fighter

>> No.3686472

>>3686462

How so?

>> No.3686493

>>3686472
How is it not?

>> No.3686513

>>3685901
Agreed. Art of Fighting 3 did it before SF3 did

>> No.3686563

>>3685827
>and that's how that's how a Clayfighter fan got sent to the gulags

>> No.3686572

>>3686392
I agree, everyone here is such a fuckin' pleb

Shaq-Fu is the greatest fighting game ever made.

>superior to Street Fighter in terms of gameplay balance
>more technically impressive than both Virtua Fighter and Tekken
>provides more action and fun than Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct
>critically acclaimed
>published by EA

There is nothing objectively wrong with this game, making it the ultimate fighting game

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>>3686572
>Shaq-Fu
Wow you fucking casual, real men play Rise of the Robots, a true masterpiece.

>> No.3687197

>>3686493

>answering a question with another question

Nice argument, bro.

>> No.3687552

>>3687197
So you literally have no answer, just as i thought.

>> No.3687594 [DELETED] 

>>3687552
You are the one that replied to a question with a question, not me.
You are the one without an answer, junior.

Go play your casualekken, let the adults play Virtua Fighter.

>> No.3687608

>>3687594
VF is wayyyyy more dumbed down than Tekken

>> No.3687618

>>3686574
This game would just be forgettably bad were it not for the heavy hype in all of the magazines to push this piece of shit in 1994. Someone in the marketing department was doing a good job earning their paycheck.

>> No.3687725

>>3687608
I'm fucking terrible at fighting games and typically avoid these threads, but I noticed how stupid your post was and needed to let you know. Even plebs like me know that VF is way more technical than Tekken.

>> No.3688283 [DELETED] 

>>3687725
>I'm fucking terrible at fighting games
VF babies in a nutshell

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>>3687725
>VF is way more technical than Tekken

>> No.3688370

>>3687725
>Admits he's shit and knows nothing about fighting games
>Thinks he's qualified to say how technical games are

>> No.3690042

>>3685749
DBZ Mugen was way better. And on PC

>> No.3690049

Weeb animu fighters are trash.

Mortal Kombat is the only true options

>> No.3690740

>>3690049
>same punches and kicks on every character
>noob saibot is fucking cheat
>no balance
Man, only good thing in MK is lore. Weeb animu fighters are superior.

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>>3690042

>MUGEN
>better than unique games like the Butoden series
>better than the best Butoden game, Super Butouden 2

Nah

>And on PC

How is this relevant at all? Are you a mustard rice that found his way out of /v/?
Anyway, most westerners that played japanese retro DBZ games was through emulators on PC.

>> No.3690781

>>3686350
PRFE and GWED was build with the same game engine, in GWED was refined

>> No.3690803

>>3685338
Why is SNES so much better for fighters compared to genesis? TMNT: Tournament Fighters is a perfect example of this. The sprites in the genesis version are ok, but everything else like the background and hud are so much worse

>> No.3690830

>>3685801
This. The sequel is good, too.

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3690860

>Ctrl + F Weaponlord phrase not found
For shame /vr/.

>> No.3690861

Garo
Capcom vs SNK 2 (it's unbalanced af, though)
Tekken since 3

>> No.3691080

>>3690861
But Tekken 2 has the best physics in the series.

>> No.3691091

Street of Fighters

>> No.3691094

>>3691080
That's why the juggle combos are so good in that one

>> No.3693120

>>3685338
The Rumble Fish and Rival Schools

>> No.3693437

>>3686407
Source? I love this kind of trivia

>> No.3694919

>>3685338
vampire savior

>> No.3697168

>>3694919
This.

>> No.3698514

>Visit arcade in the late 90s, early 2000s.
>Play nothing but Mortal Kombat, Soul Calibur, and Tekken Tag.

I got really fucking good with Lei too, could dance through all of his combat styles and execute most of his chaining combos through them. Never did master Paul though like I wanted to.

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3698956

Breakers Revenge is fantastic. It basically mimics SFII, like so many other games did at the time, but it did it to such an extent that they actually incurred the wrath of Capcom.

It's really, really fun though. It feels like everything chains and it's super easy to just mash out cool combos and stuff. This type of fighter is fantastic at parties.

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3698963

>>3698956
Also, here's a bonus not-Chun Li

>> No.3699185

>>3685350
proper example on using spoilers right

>> No.3699192

>The state of this fucking thread

/vr/ is dead outside of Doom threads.

>> No.3699196 [DELETED] 

>>3699192

t. doombabby

>> No.3699469

>>3698963
Tia's a 10/10 girl.