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Anyone play on a plasma? What are your thoughts? I know some are suppose to look amazing for retro (pic is a Pioneer PDP-V402EU, with BNC inputs).

>> No.3671967

I do. 55 Pioneer.
I scale everything with a dvdo vp30 with delinterlacing card, set to game2 and use vga. The scaler does hdmi also but I like the slg on vga.
It's a really nice image. Colors are correct and pop. Lag is not noticeable to me at all.
I don't know about units that have bnc inputs. I would be concerned that they were early monitors, like some nec models...I did not investigate your listed model #...
I will tell you, a big gripe with plasma is the damn thing gets hot. My game room is a 10x10ft den and after a couple hours it's uncomfortably hot in the summer. It really heats the room up a lot.

>> No.3672032

>>3671894
Panasonic TCP42-S1 here. My Saturn over S-Video is so damn crisp and vibrant. Response time is not a problem with NeoPDP plasmas. I feel I actually get a better experience than a decade ago with a 32" CRT. It's certainly got better color. I think the internal analog scaler in this particular set is actually really good compared to a lot of LCD's.

>> No.3672297

>>3671967
>>3672032
pics?

>> No.3672342

>>3671894
I use a 40" Panasonic Viera G10E.

I just connect the console to it via Scart directly. Wouldn't mind an upscaler to get rid of the interlacing artifacts and perhaps make it look a bit sharper, but that's about the only problem I have. There is no input lag that would affect gameplay.

>> No.3672445
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Both my biggest screens are plasma. Old ass 40" in the basement with a piss low native resolution, LG 60" 1080p upstairs. I think they're even more intense than OLED but they eat the amperes.

>> No.3672448
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My living room setup has a Pioneer Kuro PDP-428XD. I love it. Pic related is straight from Megadrive over SCART but it does amazingly well with line tripling from OSSC too, being a 1360x768 panel.

My PVM, BVMs and Trinitron PC monitors live upstairs. I love them too. My 1080p Samsung smart LCD lives in its box in the closet. I do not love it.

>> No.3672468

>>3672448
Oh, and I recently missed out on the fabled Hantarex equivalent of OP's Pioneer (640x480, 4:3 etc).

It went for £20 BIN on eBay. I was sad.

>> No.3672491

>>3672448
How does it fair to a PVM and Trinitron?

>> No.3672514

>>3672491
Plasma is the most similar to CRT out of all common flat screen technology. The blacks are as dark. Plasma does get ghosting worse than OLED. Delay isn't bad but CRT is better. On the plus side plasma is flat obviously though much heavier than other flat displays. My 60" was a bitch to get up there by myself. It's flat so glare isn't as bad as curved CRTs but much worse than LCD or OLED.

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>>3672491
Pretty well I'd say. Obviously it's a fixed-pixel display but Pioneer really knew what they were doing as far as handling standard def signals are concerned. Upscaling is exemplary, input lag seems very low - I need to bring one of my CRTs downstairs and daisy-chain it so I can run a side-by-side on 240p test suite.

Add in the fact that I got it dirt cheap and the expected half life of the panel means it has a good 50k hours to go and I expect to keep it for many years, perhaps even decades, to come.

>> No.3672551

What should you look for in buying plasma? Other than flaws like burn-in.

>> No.3672561

>>3672551
A Pioneer badge on the front

>> No.3672647

>>3671894
>I know some are suppose to look amazing for retro
Only with emulators + shaders otherwise it looks shit.
I have a plasma, the black levels/colour/contrast/and lack of motion blur is great.

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>>3672647
These look shit then?
>>3672448
>>3672521

>> No.3673064

>>3672514
>Muh glare.
CRT autist want glare though.

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>>3673064
>surely all those glare filters in that thread were dead serious
obviously glare is a drawback to crts and plasma but I could literally stretch a shower curtain over mine and still have brighter whites and deeper blacks than your lcd u mad?

>> No.3673114

>>3672448
Why are the scanlines misaligned with the pixels? Looks like some badly written retro shader. Looks like shit.

>> No.3673174

>>3673114
There are no scanlines. /crt/ is another thread entirely.

You're in the emissive fixed-pixel appreciation hugbox now.

>> No.3673184

>>3672468
Why are those models so good?

>> No.3673282

>>3673184
Much the same as the PDP-V402 (exact 2x integer scaling from 240p, good motion handling) but the Hantarex has higher build quality.

Fudoh's thread reviewing the PDP alongside the BVM-20F1 is pretty much what kicked off the widespread adoption of P/BVMs in the gaming community. The 4:3 plasmas are by comparison vanishingly rare...

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=43256

>> No.3673587

>>3671967
How would it not have the same lag as an LCD?

>> No.3673592

>>3673587
>600mhz refresh
>lag
pleb

>> No.3673607

>>3672647
>Only with emulators + shaders otherwise it looks shit.
How do you figure?
>>3672658
Street racer looks pretty good. Color on TJaE looks good, but that's kind of a bad screen to judge by, do you have photos of any other games?

>> No.3673615

>>3673592
600Hz*

>> No.3673625

>>3673607
Unfortunately I don't have any more at the moment and my camera's on the fritz.

In any case it looks far better in person than my limited photographic skills can convey. The resolution, scaling and general processing is extremely SD-friendly. Motion is also about as good as can be had from fixed-pixel displays, very smooth and free of artefacts.

>> No.3673627

>>3673625
>Motion is also about as good as can be had from fixed-pixel displays
Do you get ghosting?

>> No.3673661

I don't think you can get a plasma anymore. Last year when I went to h.h.gregg I bought the last Samsung model they were going to make. It looks fantastic it has multiple burn in curing Solutions

>> No.3673859

>>3672445

wtf is that tiny ass screen on the left senpai

>> No.3673862

>>3672445
Damn, pics with something retro please anon.

>> No.3673864

>>3673661
Craiglist though. I mean, there's nothing that can go wrong with them outside of physical damage and burn-in, right?

>> No.3673870

>>3671894
I play PlayStation 3/PC on a 60" plasma even though the blacks are starting to look grey and input delay is so low I can play the MAME beatmania games. Gave away a 45" Toshiba LCD since game mode still had like 100ms+ of input delay.

>> No.3673875

>>3673859
There's a pvm-14 with a 5" crt even further to the left.

>>3673862
Like what?

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>>3673862
Actually here's GC PSO in 480p from the Wii. The 60" doesn't do 240p but I can send it some 480p @60hz with fake scanlines if you'd like.

>> No.3673901

>>3673875
>>3673884
Something 2D with fake scanlines I guess

>> No.3674013

>>3673901
Anything specific?