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3640042 No.3640042[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>perfect games don't exi-

>> No.3640048

It's been less than a week since the last one you made died. Please stop this.

>> No.3640070

>>3640042
I can't decide what's worse.

Rabid fanboys who have to praise a good game as if it's the second coming of Christ.

Or

That fag who is so mad about them they gotta spam this board nonstop pretending to be one hoping to get more people to hate the game out of spite.

>> No.3640102

>>3640070
>That fag who is so mad about them they gotta spam this board nonstop pretending to be one hoping to get more people to hate the game out of spite.

This is what's actually happening.

Anonymous shitposting 101, falseflag is a given.
I bet it's the same guy who uses "Treasurefag" to insult anyone who doesn't hate Treasure.

>> No.3640116

>>3640042
>perfect games don't exi-

By all means, go on, you would not be wrong.

>> No.3640120

>>3640042
good job OP

you're practically inviting the "Treasure is worst dev" people swinging around large dinosaur bones and propelling cars with their feet. do we really need that all the time?

>> No.3640253

Treasure went to shit when they changed their logo from the box to edgy flame font.

>> No.3640326
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>>3640042
>perfect games
Here

>> No.3640437
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3640437

this is the only perfect game

>> No.3640885

>>3640326
>cave shmups
>good
kek

>> No.3640901
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>>3640885
>shmups
>good

>> No.3640908

>>3640901
boast you're scorez :---DDDDD

>> No.3640920

>>3640326
As someone who was looking forward to this, it was really bad and incredibly generic. I was very dissapointed and a lot of people in the community were.

>> No.3640934

whats with shumps being so polarized, anyone who likes them goes fucking insane over them while others just dont care as much.

>> No.3640959

>>3640934
It takes dedication, patience and skills to enjoy shmups, traits which not everyone possesses.

>> No.3640963

>>3640959
Also ingenuity, if you're coming up with your own routes (i.e. for scoring).

>> No.3641050
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>>3640959
>not everyone possesses

Dedication and patience, okay. Skill? Eh... I think video games are made so that anyone can beat them, with enough dedication. It's not some genre made for the chosen ones of gaming or something, shmups were one of the most popular arcade genres, all throughout the 1980s since Space Invaders came out in '79. This genre was one of the most played by what you'd nowadays call "normies".

The problem with the shmup fanbase is that it's an already niche scene by now, and truth be told, a majority of today's shmup fanbase comes from Touhou. Like it or not. I don't personally like touhou and I'm not crazy for danmaku in general, but credit goes where it's due. Fans of games and series like Darius, Gradius, R-Type and many other konami/taito/irem shooters are shrinking, more niche games from devs like Treasure, Cave, Raizing, Toaplan, etc have even less fans around.
Some people around here say Ikaruga and Radiant are overrated by normies, but truth is, in this day and age, it's more likely a normie will know about Touhou (even if through some mix of Bad Apple) than either of Treasure's vertis.

>> No.3641071

>>3641050
I'd consider eidetic memory and sharp reflexes to be skills. Only a handful of people can claim STG ALLs, much less great scores.

>> No.3641115

>>3641071

Not everyone need to aim for WRs in order to enjoy the genre, though.
Most people would be happy to be able to beat the game using a minimum amount of credits, then move on to another one.
Obviously some people might have their favorite which they play more and then become really good at them, but that's a personal thing.

>> No.3641139

>>3641115
Credit feeding is playing the genre wrong. You lose that rush of urgency and the games become dull. If you're not striving for at least a 1cc, you should just drop shumps.

>> No.3641141

>>3640959
exactly what i meant, look at the holier than thou mentality they have. Once they get into shumps they act as if they are real gamers with abilities the common man doesnt have.

>> No.3641158

>>3641141
You'll understand after you get your first one coin clear, kiddo.

>> No.3641161

>>3641139
>If you're not striving for at least a 1cc, you should just drop shumps.

*tips fedora*

>> No.3641170

>>3641141

That's because they are real gamers. You need to be good if you want to talk shit. That's why /vr/ toddlers hate shmups so much, because they get called out and go back running to their JRPG and baby platformer threads.

>> No.3641175

>>3641170

LOL, nice parody of shmupfags. They act like that.

>> No.3641182
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3641182

For STGs: d-pad > arcade stick

prove me wrong

pro tip: You Can't

>> No.3641183

>>3641175
But I was being serious.

>> No.3641186

>>3641183

Oh shit, I'm sorry anon. Awkward.

>> No.3641195

>>3641158
>>3641170
Look im no god, but i've done no death runs of all the shumps I have (i.e. Truxton, Thunder Force(s), Musha) and i don't feel any different than someone enjoying a platformer.

>inb4 not Radiant Silvergun or Touhou gtfo scrub

>> No.3641202

>>3641186
Sorry for hwat? Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our autism.

>> No.3641204

>>3641195
>(i.e. Truxton,
arcade or console port?

>Thunder Force(s), Musha)
both extremely easy shooters

>> No.3641205

>>3641182
I mean I love the Sega Saturn controller as much as the next guy (I own 5) but I like making short movements by quick tapping the stick in a direction vs the dpad (which does feel like a dream to move in fluid motion for sure)

>> No.3641428

>>3640326
>pedoshit
>good

>>>/tv/

>> No.3641432

>>3641050
I gotta disagree with your post mainly because while Touhou has a lot of shmups in the franchise the Touhou fanbase itself is pretty distanced from the shmup fanbase,

>> No.3641446
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3641446

>niche devs that are overrated by normies don't exi-

>> No.3641452

>>3641446

>niche devs that are underrated by angry poser-elitist shmupfags don't exi-

FTFY

>> No.3641457

>>3641446
>Treasure
>niche
They were Sega's Rare in the 16-bit wars, mate...

Also
>overrated
Nice buzzword.

>> No.3641462

>>3641428

Good meme, thanks /v/

>> No.3641468

>>3641457
>>3641452
>>3641446
>>3641462
Stop with the blatant sameguying.

>inb4 you post a pic you shopped the (You) away from at multiple times from four different cellphones to cover your ass


I know all the tricks you can't fool me.

>> No.3641473

>>3641468
Schizophrenia kicking in again, m8? I was only one of those posts.

>> No.3641474

>>3641468

The treasure shitposting has become pretty ridiculous on /vr/

Fucking shmupfags, they don't even play videogames. I bet they don't even own any PCB either.

>> No.3641481

>>3641474
>shmupfags
>implying it's not butthurt Sonydrones who got the short end of the stick from Treasure (at least until Gradius V)

>> No.3641487

>>3641473
>>3641468
>>3641474
>>3641481
WHAT THE HECK DID I JUST SAY ABOUT THE SAMEGUYING?! STOP!

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>>3640326
>>3640042

>Japshit
>perfect

Kek. True perfect game reporting in.

>> No.3641494

>>3641493
>SJW bait games
Fuck off, anita.

>> No.3641496

>>3640437
>Overrated expensive meme game with shitty fanbase circlejerking over it
>Perfect

>> No.3641501
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>>3641481
Gradius V... was a mistake.

>> No.3641614

is there such a thing as a good shmup?

>> No.3641617

>>3641493

>western video "games"
>perfect

kek, I bet you also think Torment is "deep"

>> No.3641623

>>3640437
Perfectly awful
Undertale is superior.

>> No.3641632

>>3641614
Check out Sand Scorpion.

>> No.3641637
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3641637

Find a flaw.

>> No.3641650

>>3641637
Its on a Sony console.

>> No.3641674

>>3640042
Silent Hill 2 is perfect.

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3641697

>>3640042
have a seat kiddo

>> No.3641703

>>3641697
1v1 me on fightcade fagit

>> No.3641715

>>3641703
i only play local on my saturn because pc gaming is for fags

>> No.3641769

>>3641050
>a majority of today's shmup fanbase comes from Touhou
and Cave
2hu fans are kind of like. I don't know how I'd put it

Anyways the reason Darius/Gradius and R-Type will be known is because Irem had the good decency to create the methodical masterpiece that is R-type Delta. though Leo also had a bitchin soundtrack Bydo remain one of my favorite evil entities ever and it's criminal that r-type tactics II will never be translated. The Bydo campaign of the first game gives as much insight into that bydofication process that I dreamed of you get bydo'd up in R-Type Final and your pilot has no clue why everybody is attacking him.

That and for the longest time you couldn't trip over Gradius inspired games. Moving on, with the decline in arcades I think we also saw a decline in shmups. I always wondered if this also wasn't a fault of no advertising. I mean I remember when r-type delta showed up in my game reviewing outlets but I don't recall seeing some like g-darius on a playstation demo disc. Actually if I hadn't stumbled on Ray'z big box containing music of the Ray series I would have never known that existed.

There's also other things like G.Rev releasing Border Down to the dreamcast well deep into the end of it's life and only in Japan. But given that there's all this engrish in it that makes it (somewhat) import friendly, I wonder if they didn't intend to at one point try to get it published over here like they did with Under Defeat (eventually) Okuga, and Starnia.

>> No.3641809

>>3640042
How's that memory game going on? You solved it yet Billy?

>> No.3641818

>>3641809
I get the insult, but I should remind you that R-Type 1, 3, and Delta requires some wicked memory and Super R-Type requires wicked memory and wicked skill.

Super R-Type is also a crime against humanity.

>> No.3641895

>>3641204
>you'd understand if you had 1cc'd a game :^)
>no wait those don't count
>no wait post your scores

Never fails