/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.3633286]

How is this worse than any other Atari game? They're all shit. Is it a meme?

[Anonymous No.3633292]

Because most Atari games had a defined ruleset and a clear objective. Nobody knew what the fuck you were supposed to do in ET.

In any case, to answer your retarded question, it was mostly because millions of normies who never played a home console game before bought ET because it's ET and it were shocked when it wasn't the same quality as the arcade games they were used to.

[Anonymous No.3633294]

No, it's not a meme. E.T. is a legitimate contender for the worst video game ever made, and is solely responsible for the North American video game market crash in 1983.

Just look up the gameplay on YouTube.

[Anonymous No.3633378]

>>3633292

It's called a "manual".
Back then in the box there was a little book giving the story and explaining the objective and controls. I know, weird, right?

[Anonymous No.3633381]

Watch AVNG: The movie, at least watch his review of ET at the end of the movie.

[Anonymous No.3633391]

>>3633286
its a pretty crappy game but the worst game ever thing is definitely a meme. there are worse games and most people have never played it. its infamous for being a massive financial failure more than anything.

[Anonymous No.3633398]

>>3633294
ET is an entertaining part of the video game crash but to say it is solely responsible for the whole thing is retarded. dozens of garbage consoles and hundreds of shovelware games all competing with each other caused the crash. ET was hardly unique

[Anonymous No.3633429]

>>3633391

It's actuallypretty damn amazing considering the time left to pull it together, unfortunately in the rush the infamous bug with the holes came into the game which reduces playing enjoyment drastically.

For those 2 people who still don't know what time left I mean, here is the very short summary of this game's production:
After getting the rights the brilliant minds high up wanted the game to be ready for the holiday season that year, meaning Christmas! Considering shipping and all that meant there were hardly 7 weeks I think left- for EVERYTHING! Developing a concept with the characters, programming, testing etc.!
In these 7 weeks a game was made for the freaking bleepbloop ATARI 2600(!) that has

- coherent storyline
- a game world (just a few screen but again keep the system we are talking about in mind!)
- TWO unique antagonists with different penalties for being caught
- an item system
- score system
- all while still maintaining a connection to the movie it is based on

As you see it is in fact pretty amazing considered the time it was created. Unfortunately with such a strict time limit the point playtesting was swiftly shoved under the rug- and such the whole game is pretty much destrovyed by ONE false bit that leads to the hole collision detection make you fall in right again- and again, and again, riuning the game pretty much entirely. If thist single thing did not happen it would be a solid game for the time, not a masterpiece but solid.
Now the mentioned high ups in their brilliance had more carts produced than there were 2600s in the ntire country! They actually firmly calculated with people buying systems just to play ET! We all know how that went...

But there you are, don't talk about ET like that, it is a solid and in fact pretty amazing game regarding the circumstances and all the WORST GAEM EVAR!!1 youtuber need to be thrown in a hole, pulled out, and then thrown in the hole again over and over...

[Anonymous No.3633436]

>>3633292
>what is a manual?
>>3633294
>No, it's not a meme
>Just look up the gameplay on YouTube.

[Anonymous No.3633439]

>>3633436
Yes, you are an ignorant baby.

[Anonymous No.3633441]

>>3633429
>the infamous bug with the holes
Just levitate sideways once you get out of the hole and back on the overworld map. The endless loop of dropping back into the pits is if you keep trying to levitate straight up.

[Anonymous No.3633443]

>>3633439
>hasn't actually played the game
>can only parrot bullshit from youtube
>no u!

[Anonymous No.3633448]

>>3633443
I have played the game. It's awful. Sorry for having standards. And I feel sorry for your baseless projections.

[Anonymous No.3633450]

>>3633441

Most people did not know this and did not have the idea.
If they had have time to test it they could have added this as a tip in the manual if not being able to correct it, maybe even pretend it's a feature to add challenge. Pity.

[Anonymous No.3633514]

>>3633294
>North American video game market crash in 1983.

When will people stop it with this meme? What was there to crash if there was barely any industry that mattered? Vidya only started being good (for home consoles) when the nips started producing them. Why do people stress so much on this "crash" if there weren't any good vidya to begin with?

[Anonymous No.3633523]

>>3633514
Sigh.

Please go back to /v/ if you're not even going to try to find out how gaming was back in the old days. Fucking children.

This is why /vr/ should be pre-1995 only.

Seriously, just about every post I make on /vr/ ends with "this is why /vr/ should be pre-1995 only". Can we just do it now? N64 and PS1 babies don't know anything about actual retro gaming.

[Anonymous No.3633532]

>>3633294
>solely responsible
>gameplay on YouTube

[Anonymous No.3633534]

ET is okay as adventure games on Atari go. A lot of people get upset with Superman because of its similarly unclear objective but I guess the difference between the two or even Adventure or Swordquest is that it's pretty easy to die in ET and when you do, it's not always obvious WHY you died. I think that in particular is the main source of real unparroted frustrations with ET in particular, compounded by it being a game that was heavily promoted and sold many copies.

[Anonymous No.3633542]

>>3633448
>"It really was so bad that it crashed the industry!"
>"I-I just meant that it was awful!"
Shifting goalposts just as a child would be expected to do. Please quote where it was said that the game wasn't bad.

[Anonymous No.3633549]

>>3633542
>Shifting goalposts
Except I didn't you blithering retard.

>>3633532
Great argument.

[Anonymous No.3633556]

>>3633549
It wasn't supposed to be an argument, it was me trying to tell you I've heard your retarded incorrect opinion before and I think you're a fag for going this long without doing actual research
Go back to your youtube celebrities faggot

[Anonymous No.3633558]

>>3633556
It is correct though you fucking fruitcake faggot.

[Anonymous No.3633564]

>>3633558
no you dumb fag
it is not "solely" responsible for anything except a lot of wasted money
fuck off

[Anonymous No.3633608]

>>3633549
>claims that the meme is true
>cites youtube footage
>gets called out for ignorant youtube parroting
>"NUH-UH!"
>shifts goalposts and pretends this is a challenge to the idea that the game is bad at all
>gets called out on that too
>"YOU'RE the retard!"
>continues to fling insults
I know you have more free time than you know what to do with during Thanksgiving break, kiddo, so how about you spend some of it actually looking things up before shooting your mouth off?

Oh, and be careful not to choke while rattling-off your secondhand opinions to your family at dinner tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.3633632]

>>3633564
>no you dumb fag it is not "solely" responsible for anything except a lot of wasted money fuck off
It seems you haven't done your research. Not only did the game bomb financially, but also critically and commercially. Retailers and parents were hesitant to invest in video games after a game from a popular franchise completely bombed.

>>3633608
Admit that you're wrong and just move on gracefully. You're shitting up the board with your incompetency. E.T. was a bad game that directly contributed to the crash.

[Anonymous No.3633637]

>>3633294
I'll grant you that E.T. is shit, but to say that it's solely responsible for the '83 crash is disingenuous. A lot of shovelware was being pumped out by multiple companies (including Atari itself, but also including a lot of companies that had no business being in the gaming business, like General Mills), which caused consumers to lose interest in home video games. Had E.T. not been made, some other game (for example, Atari's crappy port of Pac-Man) would have been the headliner of the crash.

[Anonymous No.3633662]

It's actually a mid-tier quality Atari title and above average for a licensed game.

Of course it wasn't very good overall but then again 99% of licensed games aren't very good.

[Anonymous No.3633775]

>>3633381
>Angry Video Nerd Game

[Anonymous No.3634374]

>>3633632
>"If I move the goalposts closer to where they used to be, would you pretend that I was never in the wrong?"
>"Oh, and I'll throw in some more attitude to help sell it."

[Anonymous No.3634485]

E.T. is a bad game. But its not THAT bad.

The reason it is notorious is that it is more or less the first example of a licensed, big named title with tons of marketing that totally sank in the market place.
Its the precursor to other over marketed titles that have bombed in the market place (Like what happens with half of all "Triple A" titles now a days).

Before ET this hadn't really happened before since the gaming market was still so new.

[Anonymous No.3634530]

>>3633523
t. 1995 babby

[Anonymous No.3634532]

You are a bunch of retards. You guys should be ashamed of never playing an atari game.

Also, penguin poster, go back to /b/ where you belong

[Anonymous No.3634570]

>>3634532
>I'm totally not samefagging to try and save face

[Anonymous No.3634589]

theres worse games on the atari than ET

[Anonymous No.3634592]

There are far worse games than ET. They just didn't sell like ET.

[Anonymous No.3634605]

>>3634570

Im not him, because i actually have an Atari

Also you should fuck off and stop ruining this board.

[Anonymous No.3634714]

>>3634605
>Atari XE
Mah nigga. Best console Atari put out next to the 2600.

[Anonymous No.3634752]

Seanbaby in EGM. Literally died from laughing at this Worst 20 list when it came out.

[Anonymous No.3634759]

>>3633294
lots of things lead up to the video game crash dipshit, not just ET, what the fuck

no single game can be so bad that it crashes an entire market

[Anonymous No.3634780]

Because it sold 1.5 million copies, making it the 7th best selling game on the system.

That's why people shit on the Atari 2600. Between it and Pac-Man (which was #1), it's clear no one had a clue what a good game looked like.

[Anonymous No.3634782]

>>3634780
Pac-Man wasn't bad if you'd never played the arcade version before.

[Anonymous No.3634783]

>>3634752
Fuck, I remember this. Issue 150. I was 12 and that whole list was pure gold. Going back and reading some of it again, I didn't realize how cringe it is. Right place right time I guess.

[Anonymous No.3634910]

>>3634752
Whatever happened to that hasbeen anyway?

[Anonymous No.3635008]

>>3634752
>>3634783

[Anonymous No.3635020]

>>3633381
You realize that movie was technically dogshit right?

[Anonymous No.3635071]

>>3633286
BIG FUCKING RIGS !!!!

[Anonymous No.3637456]

>>3635020
Just needed a better script, honestly. The concept of the movie was pretty solid. Writing the nerd as some kind of retro gaming messiah was dumb as shot though.

[Anonymous No.3637464]

>>3633286
of coruse its bad didnt u watch avgn?? xDD

[Anonymous No.3637475]

>>3633523
WELL I AM 12 AND I CAN APPRECIATE REAL QUALITY VIDYA NOT LIKE THIS GARBAGE WE HAVE NOWADAYS I WAS BORN IN THE WRONG GENERATION.

[Anonymous No.3637536]

>>3633632
admit you are wrong you smug cunt.
funny how you went from "solely responsible" to "directly contributed to the crash." you are a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.3637628]

I bought this game for my wife's son for Christmas of 1982. He still hasn't forgiven me. What should I do, should I buy him a car or something?

[Anonymous No.3637656]

>>3633294
>and is solely responsible for the North American video game market crash in 1983.

Oh yeah I completely remember seeing homeless E.T. in Wreck-It Ralph as a reference to it.

Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.3638783]

>>3633450

I find it unlikely that most people didn't have the idea. There are four directions you can go when leaving a pit, and three work just fine. Granted, you're already going up on the pit-view screen so when you move to the ground-level scene you might be most naturally inclined to continue trying to go up. That's a big problem. But I'm sure that very, very many people tried going other directions, and if you tried that once then you'd see that it worked, so you'd probably try it again later. It's a significant bug, but not a totally game-destroying one.

[Anonymous No.3638786]

>>3633286
Yes, it is a meme. The only part they fucked up on is they made waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy more copies than they needed to.

[Anonymous No.3638793]

>>3637536
You? Well you're a pee pee head. It's soaked in pee pee and then dunked in liquid doo doo. enjoy being so grossed out bc of it

[Anonymous No.3638801]

>>3633286

It has its problems but it's unusually good by Atari 2600 standards (which are, of course, rather low). It's just too unfriendly for the audience it was supposed to have.

Its popularity today (as a scapegoat and target of derision) is 100% bandwagon effect. Nobody cares about what the real "worst game ever" is, because the actual worst game, whatever it may be, is probably unknown and uninteresting. Nobody cares about most of the various other similarly mediocre games that have been released for all manner of platforms. This game is only famous today because of kids on the Internet wallowing in the pleasure of their negative emotions.

[Anonymous No.3638806]

>>3637536
I'm not wrong. And your literacy is piss poor. Get the fuck over it.