/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.3630237]

Which is the more technical 3D retro fighting game: Virtua Fighter or Tekken?

[Anonymous No.3630270]

Fucking Virtua Fighter are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.3630296]

What do you mean by technical? Virtua Fighter is bare bones; punch, kick, block, while Tekken focuses on keeping the combos going. They're both technical in different ways, how does one measure which one is 'more' technical?

[Anonymous No.3630753]

>>3630296
>Virtua Fighter is bare bones

[Anonymous No.3630919]

>>3630237
Bloody Roar

[Anonymous No.3630927]

virtua fighter, only autists can maximize its gameplay, its fucking insane

[Anonymous No.3630960]

>>3630927
lolno

[Anonymous No.3630972]

>>3630753
You sure you're not this guy ? >>3622814

[Anonymous No.3630974]

>>3630960
nice argument, you've changed my opinion

nothing can beat tekkens superior limb based combat

[Anonymous No.3630979]

>>3630919
/thread

[Anonymous No.3631201]

dead or alive is the deepest

[Anonymous No.3631213]

>>3630237
Virtua Fighter is more realistic. Tekken lets you choose a bear. Its super fake.

[Anonymous No.3631229]

>>3630237
>more technical
VF

>more gimmicky
Tekken

[Anonymous No.3631249]

>>3631229
>more technical
>VF
How so?

[Anonymous No.3631256]

>>3631249
Not him, but they probably mean realistic and non-combo based. Tekken is about learning combos and doing enough poking to get to use one and hopefully execute the whole thing. Moves are flashy and the characters are crazy.

Virtua Fighter is very limited in terms of combos so its almost all about trading pokes back and forth. Also it's more down to earth with the characters using more traditional forms of martial arts and no characters that are aliens with swords.

So if you had someone who was good at their foosies game but bad at combos they would be better at VF, if you had someone who was less good at footsies overall but very good at executing combos they would be better at Tekken. The two types of players will never agree which is better though.

[Anonymous No.3631257]

>>3631213
>Tekken lets you choose a bear. Its super fake.

[Anonymous No.3631264]

>>3630237
Virtua Fighter vs. Tekken game when?

[Anonymous No.3631267]

>>3631256
Executing combos well seems like it would take more skill, though.

[Anonymous No.3631269]

>>3631256
Being "realistic" has nothing to do with how technical the game is, in fact the less a game is unbound by realism the more chance it has to become a more technical game.

Also more advanced combos makes the game more technical, and its not like combos in VF deal less damage they are just generally shorter and more simple.

[Anonymous No.3631270]

>>3631264
>Virtua Fighter vs. Tekken
Two of the most boring simple and basic button mashy fighters together at last!.

Hopefully never.

[Anonymous No.3631275]

>>3631267
Yes that's true. But it's a skill of memorization, where as being good at poking and footsies is a skill of reading your opponent. So they're both skill based, but different. Hence endless disagreement.

>>3631269
>Being "realistic" has nothing to do with how technical the game is

I agree, but I was guessing at what they meant when they said it. I could be wrong.

[Anonymous No.3631285]

>>3631249
VF is less about juggles and more about knowing which attack has the optimal range and speed for the situation you are in. This requires you to know a characters EVERY move by REFLEX ACTION to master the game. You can't just poke around for 98% of the game until you get a lucky hit in that allows you to start your pre-learned combo sequence, like in Tekken or Marvel VS.

Well, technically, you can and do poke around for 98% of the game in Virtua Fighter too, it's just that "poking" is like a game of rock-scissors-papers with 50 different counters instead of 3. And if you screw up you'll get pummeled into the ground in a few hits instead of a 12 hit combo.

Also even if one player gains an advantage, the defending site can get out of that extremely easy - as long as they figure out the correct counter. So for an attacker to maintain pressure, they also have to switch patterns nonstop, to keep the opponent off balance.

The best example of this is Akira, the main character of the game. While other main characters like Ryu tend to be the most accessible ones with simple moves, Akira is the most complex character in nearly any fighting game. He has tight framing and it feels like a fourth of his moves are just there to shove you around or keep you off balance, to keep you guessing what is happening next, so you cannot possibly get ready for his next move. Then another fourth of his moves will hit like a truck if they connect properly, and another fourth are hit counters for every situation... but they all have so tight framing that you need to know EXACTLY which to use in any situation, hence why it is said that you need months of practice to master a single character.

And, incidentally, what makes the game realistic. Like Bruce Lee said: “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times”.

[Anonymous No.3631290]

>>3631264
>Virtua Fighter vs. Tekken game when?

Tekken characters would get absolutely destroyed. It would be impossible to balance the game properly.
Probably why they are adding Street Fighters and QTE events to the latest Tekken.

VF is closer to Dead or Alive, and incidentally the last DOA fighter had quite a bunch of VF characters in it.

[Anonymous No.3631292]

>>3631257
Fighter's Megamix is not Virtua Fighter, anon.

[Anonymous No.3631294]

>>3631292
It's literally Virtua Fighter 3 Saturn Edition.

[Anonymous No.3631306]

>>3631294
0/10

[Anonymous No.3631312]

>>3631285
>knowing which attack has the optimal range and speed for the situation you are in. This requires you to know a characters EVERY move by REFLEX ACTION to master the game
This is every fighting game ever made and not specific to VF in any way.

And once again VF combos deal just as much damage as Tekken combos they are just shorter and more basic.

I dont think you understand what poking and footsies mean, and trying to compare it to RPS makes no sense and even if that was true RPS guessing game would be far less technical than actual space control poking and whif punishing.

>Also even if one player gains an advantage, the defending site can get out of that extremely easy - as long as they figure out the correct counter. So for an attacker to maintain pressure, they also have to switch patterns nonstop, to keep the opponent off balance.
Again all you are saying is the game lacks any real technical depth and is nothing more than a guessing game that auto resolves itself.

>Akira is the most complex character in nearly any fighting game.
Haha no, just no.

[Anonymous No.3631325]

>>3631312
Akira doesn't even have pretzels.

[Anonymous No.3631327]

>>3631285
>Akira is the most complex character in nearly any fighting game
Actually had me up till this point, 8/10

[Anonymous No.3631346]

>>3631312
>This is every fighting game ever made and not specific to VF in any way.

Except that in VF all moves are equal and have an equal downside and upside, while in other ones you have shit like dragon punching your way out of a 60% damage unblockable Desperation EX Ultra Combo Hadouken.

>Again all you are saying is the game lacks any real technical depth and is nothing more than a guessing game that auto resolves itself.

That exact same argument could be used against any other fighting game. Countering an overhead or a crossup on landing, or getting dragon punched because you jumped in over a fake hadouken, they are all the exact same "guessing game that auto resolves itself".

VF has that same exact technical depth, it just manifests in a form that is more closer to actual real fighting than it is to the Zwee Fighting from Dragon Ball Z.

[Anonymous No.3631351]

>>3631346
>while in other ones you have shit like dragon punching your way out of a 60% damage unblockable Desperation EX Ultra Combo Hadouken.

Anyone who does a raw super like that so it can be countered by a dp is a fucking retard though.

[Anonymous No.3631364]

>>3631346
>Except that in VF all moves are equal and have an equal downside and upside
Like in every other fighting game ever made

> while in other ones you have shit like dragon punching your way out of a 60% damage unblockable Desperation EX Ultra Combo Hadouken.
Dragon punch is extremly unsafe and punishable, nor is it unblock able, nor does it deal 60% damage.

Im starting to doubt you even play fighting games.

[Anonymous No.3631376]

>>3631346
>VF has that same exact technical depth, it just manifests in a form that is more closer to actual real fighting than it is to the Zwee Fighting from Dragon Ball Z.
This has to be bait, no one is this much of a clueless idiot.

[Anonymous No.3631383]

>>3631376
>This has to be bait, no one is this much of a clueless idiot.
Welcome to fighting game threads on /vr/. >>3623998

[Anonymous No.3631391]

>>3631383
>More of the ST cast is viable than 3S
What the hell am i reading

[Anonymous No.3631394]

For a moment I thought that was a king-show photo.

BTW, VF is better.

[Anonymous No.3631395]

>>3631394
>BTW, VF is better.
How so?

[Anonymous No.3631420]

>>3631395
Tekken is too shallow and casual.

[Anonymous No.3631428]

>>3631420
Explain

[Anonymous No.3631638]

>>3631364
>Im starting to doubt you even play fighting games.

And I'm starting to think that you have no reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.3631664]

Reminder that the best VF player in the world said Street Fighter is a more complex game that requires more skill to play than virtua fighter

[Anonymous No.3631670]

>>3630296
this

so much this

[Anonymous No.3631689]

>>3631670
Fuck off furfag

[Anonymous No.3631716]

>>3631664
Sweet appeal to authority, faggot.

VF is still the most realistic and skill-demanding fighter.

[Anonymous No.3631751]

>>3631201
boobies

[Anonymous No.3631830]

Does it matter? They're both good 3D fighting games.

[Anonymous No.3631836]

>>3631201
DOA has the best AI though, at least that's what I keep hearing. Not sure which game in the series, maybe 2?

[Anonymous No.3631853]

>>3631836
>playing fighting games single player
top cuck

[Anonymous No.3631862]

>>3631853
I don't have any friends who play retro games. My only friend plays mobas and is busy with his kid and work.

[Anonymous No.3631863]

>>3631716
>realistic
Who cares

>skill-demanding
Not even close, its literally babys first button masher

[Anonymous No.3631865]

Tekken didn't get good till 5/DR anyways.

[Anonymous No.3631868]

>>3631865
Probably because the development of DR was outsourced to a different dev team.

[Anonymous No.3631869]

>>3631862
>I don't have any friends
>My only friend
>my ONE and ONLY friend
hahahahaha holy shit. i think you should concentrate more on killing yourself rather than what fightin game has the best AI you stupid fuck

[Anonymous No.3631874]

>>3631689
??

[Anonymous No.3631876]

>>3631869
Nice avatarfagging, autist.

[Anonymous No.3631887]

>>3631853
>>3631869
Kids on vacation for thanksgiving already in burgerland?

[Anonymous No.3631891]

>>3631876
stay triggered salty CTR shill

[Anonymous No.3631904]

>>3631876
>autist
Says the guy with no friends, lol.

[Anonymous No.3631916]

>>3631863
I've never played a fighting game where button mashing actually works.

[Anonymous No.3631930]

>>3631716
>VF is still the most realistic and skill-demanding fighter.

[Anonymous No.3632318]

>>3630919
This

[Anonymous No.3632349]

>Again all you are saying is the game lacks any real technical depth and is nothing more than a guessing game that auto resolves itself.

there is no auto resolve, I'd say your description fits tekken better as it has an automated block feature as a core gameplay mechanic

>>3631428
>auto block
>bombastic effects on hit
>oki

vf on the otherhand is a game for autists: everything is so logically laid out and its adherence to the RPS design philosophy echo's throughout numerous aspects of gameplay

[Anonymous No.3632475]

>>3631270
>Two of the most boring simple and basic button mashy fighters together at last!.
>Tekken
>boring simple and basic

I have never really played VF, but I can tell you that Tekken is one of the deepest franchises in the genre....

Characters in Tekken all have extremely extensive combos, and every single character has moves lists that go on into the thousands......compare this to a Capcom fighter, where characters have like what....30 to 50 moves tops? I'm not exaggerrating either when I say thousands, Tekken games keep moves from old games and just keep adding more

This is why Street Fighter and MK are popular among "noobs" to the genre, they're much simpler and even still games like that have a big learning curve to people apparently

That being said I'm not saying Tekken is superior, I'm a SF/KOF guy myself but to call Tekken simple or basic couldn't be farther from the truth

[Anonymous No.3632520]

>>3631391
>What the hell am i reading

Welcome to what fighting game threads on /vr/ have become. Read the rest of the exchange and you'll see that he knew full well he had no idea what he was talking about. It's just simple plain trolling to stir up as much shit as possible.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this >>3632475
>I have never really played VF, but I can tell you that Tekken is one of the deepest franchises in the genre....

Is the same guy.

[Anonymous No.3632579]

>>3631391
>>More of the ST cast is viable than 3S
>What the hell am i reading
>>3632520

so are we operating on "3S is balanced because Kuroda" logic or what

[Anonymous No.3632609]

>>3632579
That's not the point. He brags and acts like a know it all until pressed to explain himself when he comes clean that he had no idea what he was talking about in the first place. It's all just to stir shit because he hates people who play fighting games.

Why did you sage?

[Anonymous No.3632990]

>>3632475
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve. if you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

[Anonymous No.3633000]

Virtua Fighter had that drunken old guy.

Therefore, VF is better.

[Anonymous No.3633013]

>>3632475
>Tekken is one of the deepest franchises in the genre....
I can tell you its not, and im willing to bet you know very little about Tekken or fighting games.

>Characters in Tekken all have extremely extensive combos, and every single character has moves lists that go on into the thousands
Untrue, even with duplicate entry's and "sample combos" being listed the average movelist size is around 80

>compare this to a Capcom fighter, where characters have like what....30 to 50 moves tops?
Ryu alone in SF4 has 58 moves and thats not including any combos, juggles or strings and they are many characters in the game with way more moves than Ryu.

>I'm not exaggerrating either when I say thousands
Yes you are, i play Tekken.

>This is why Street Fighter and MK are popular among "noobs" to the genre, they're much simpler and even still games like that have a big learning curve to people apparently
Except the exact opposite is true, Tekken has a much larger casual player base while SF has a much MUCH larger competitive player base, this is not even something you can debate.

>That being said I'm not saying Tekken is superior, I'm a SF/KOF guy myself but to call Tekken simple or basic couldn't be farther from the truth
Iv been playing Tekken since T2, its an extremly basic and simple game, thats why people like it, simplicity =/= bad

[Anonymous No.3633018]

>>3632579
Are we just going to pretend ST is not a horrendous unbalanced mess with O.Sagat and Claw shitting on the entire cast with literally 1 move even at the highest level of play?

[Anonymous No.3633030]

>>3632609
>Calling multiple unrelated people the same guy in a desperate attempt to try and win people over to your flawed argument
>Claiming anyone who disagrees with you "hates people who play fighting games"
This is some next level damage control

[Anonymous No.3633032]

>>3633018
That's why you play SF2T. Super a shit.

[Anonymous No.3633034]

>>3631916
That's because it doesn't in any semi-decent one. Button mashing is a real good way to lose quickly.

[Anonymous No.3633035]

>>3632349
>Oki makes a game shallow and casual

[Anonymous No.3633036]

>>3633030
What flawed argument? I wasn't even part of that original conversation. I'm pointing out that he showed his hand. Loudly boasting as if he's an expert and then the very next post admitting he didn't even know the game he was talking about.

Maybe it's one guy, maybe it's ten but there are hardcore haters who come to these threads and say intentionally stupid shit just to stir the pot.

[Anonymous No.3633037]

>>3633032
Is this bait?

[Anonymous No.3633039]

>>3633036
>say intentionally stupid shit just to stir the pot.
Yeah, things like ST has more viable characters than 3S

[Anonymous No.3633042]

>>3631916
>I've never played a fighting game where button mashing actually works.

Dead or Alive tournaments used to have top level players beaten by casuals because it was so masher friendly.

[Anonymous No.3633046]

>>3633039
Yes. Along with a HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OHHH GOD MY SIDES. And then when asked to explain how ST is less balanced he just says he doesn't even know that game. That's pure shitposting, plain and simple.

[Anonymous No.3633049]

>>3630237
Virtua Fighter of course. It's the most intense game of "Rock-Paper-Scissors". It's funny how there are games with more buttons but less depth in their core mechanics.

>Street Fighter
>6-buttons
>combos only started in this series because of mechanical bugs
>very few ways to creatively dig into your opponent's health bar

>Mortal Kombat
>5 button game, 6 if you include run in the later games
>cheese-out-your-opponent-the-game

>Tekken
>4 buttons
>becomes a FMV sequence once your competent opponent lands a juggle

>Marvel VS.
>6 buttons, 4 in MvC2 which is gay
>becomes an anime once your competent opponent lands a juggle

[Anonymous No.3633050]

>>3633046
See >>3633018

[Anonymous No.3633059]

>>3633050
I saw that and chose to ignore it. If you're not him you seem to be doing a very good job of mimicking.

[Anonymous No.3633064]

>>3633046
>And then when asked to explain how ST is less balanced he just says he doesn't even know that game.
Except this literally didnt happen, you are trying to take 2 completely unrelated posts by 2 completely different people and use them in your argument as 1 post, you are literally shitposting.

[Anonymous No.3633069]

>>3630296
But being bare bones is what makes VF technical. You have to rely on actual skill instead of crossup traps or long-ass combos.

[Anonymous No.3633070]

>>3633059
>I chose to ignore any posts that prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.3633073]

>ST has many viable characters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvAI4V_ksNg
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOWWWWW

[Anonymous No.3633082]

>>3633064
Like I say maybe it's 1 maybe it's 10. People post in these threads with the precise intention of shitting them up with random nonsense. Doesn't matter to me, but it makes for some super cringy threads around here is all I'm saying.

>>3623998
>>3624062
>>3624391

[Anonymous No.3633093]

>>3633082
>Repeating himself
>Linking 3 different people, one of which was probably you and trying to claim they are the same person
>Conveniently ignoring anyone who proves you wrong
>Shitting up an entirely unreated thread because you are a butthurt faggot who cant let go after being proven wrong.

Seek help

[Anonymous No.3633103]

>>3633070
Go read the other thread if you're genuinely interested.

>>3633093
If it's three different people, it's three people pretending to be one person in the way they are replying and that doesn't make the situation better.

The only point to this is these threads attract those people, be it one or many who intentionally shitpost as you are doing and have no interest in actual discussion of the games. Which is why I avoid these threads almost as much as shmups and castlevania these days. \

Enjoy your shitshow.

[Anonymous No.3633105]

>>3633013
>Ryu alone in SF4 has 58 moves and thats not including any combos, juggles or strings and they are many characters in the game with way more moves than Ryu.
That's much less than Tekken characters have by a large margin

>Except the exact opposite is true, Tekken has a much larger casual player base while SF has a much MUCH larger competitive player base, this is not even something you can debate.
More people play SF competitively because they can

>Iv been playing Tekken since T2, its an extremly basic and simple game, thats why people like it, simplicity =/= bad
Please tell me how SF is more complicated than Tekken, because I really don't fuckin' see it.

[Anonymous No.3633112]

>>3633103
>it's three people pretending to be one person
I think you might just be braindamaged

[Anonymous No.3633136]

>>3633105
>Please tell me how SF is more complicated than Tekken, because I really don't fuckin' see it.
All right.
SF has a much wider move pool and more importantly a much wider variety of different moves with different functions, space control is more important and the effective range of each character is much greater, furthermore various play styles and archetypes exist in street fighter.

Contrast to this Tekken characters have very few effective moves with the vast majority of moves being useless filler which is why you see 5 useful moves lists in the character forums on TZ, furthermore everyone in tekken plays the same, and by that i mean has the same gameplan, whifpunish/land a juggle, wall carry, oki. matches in Tekken are rigid and almost turn based which is why you tend to see more perfects in Tekken than in street fighter.

Street fighter also has many more mechanics and sub mechanics than Tekken with Tekken outside of the Tag games being very barebones mechanically, street fighter is also a much faster game with decisions having to be made much quicker.

t. Suzaku rank Tekken player

[Anonymous No.3633229]

>>3633105
Gen has more moves than any tekken character

[Anonymous No.3633946]

fucking goddamn thread gone to shit
ruined by crapcom drones spouting their non vr shit about a series of games that have been broken and shit since their inception (bar 3S of course)

[Anonymous No.3633952]

>>3630237
Virtua Fighter being technical was just a marketing sham by Sega to hide the fact that it's slow bland shit with only three buttons.

[Anonymous No.3633958]

>>3633952
t. oatmeal cookie face

[Anonymous No.3633962]

>>3633958
>>>/tv/

[Anonymous No.3633964]

>>3633962
>a shitposter telling me to leave
Ironic.

[Anonymous No.3633967]

>>3633964
Telling the truth about Sega's marketing ploys is not shitposting.

[Anonymous No.3633980]

>>3633952
>only two buttons.
Fixed that for you

[Anonymous No.3634007]

>>3631395
VF2's graphics aged the best.

[Anonymous No.3634010]

>>3631664
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/VFdickriders%20BTFO.png/

>you will never be this autistic

[Anonymous No.3634014]

>>3631664
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/filename/VFdickriders%20BTFO.png/
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/filename/%20VFaggots%20BTFO.png/

>you will never be this autistic

[Anonymous No.3634025]

>>3634014
hoooly shit lmao

[Anonymous No.3634319]

>>3633112
Like I said, might be one, might be several but the overall outcome is the same. Fighting threads here have gone from bad but interesting to almost all blatant bait posts.

>>3633946
>>3633952
>>3633967

[Anonymous No.3634324]

>>3634014

Sometimes I think about the family that has to take care of autists like that and I feel bad for them.

[Anonymous No.3635032]

>>3634014
I dont think you understand what being autistic means.

[Anonymous No.3635049]

>>3635032
Hi, VFaggot-poster.

[Anonymous No.3635115]

>>3634014
Which one is supposed to be the bad one? The autist who wrote the posts or the autist that made the pictures? Serious question.

[Anonymous No.3635120]

>>3634014
>Posts 11 times over a year
>a-a-autism
Are VF fans really this desperate?

[Anonymous No.3635125]

>>3635120

Posting the same shit 11 times over a year is kind of autistic, though. And the worst thing is you're still at it.

[Anonymous No.3635136]

>>3635125
This is how desperate VF fans are

[Anonymous No.3635182]

>>3635125
>Posting the same shit 11 times over a year is kind of autistic
Uhh huh. He's almost as bad as this guy
>>3634023

[Anonymous No.3635230]

>>3635182
Autists like >>3634014 are the reason people like >>3634023 exist in the first place.

[Anonymous No.3635257]

>>3634014
He's also responsible for shitting-up beat em' up threads on /vr/ by calling SoR2 a broken mess and claiming SoR3 is superior to it. You can tell it's the same guy because he always responds to arguments with "0/10", reaction images with "HAHAHAHA OH GOD" text, and also appeals to authority in the form of cherrypicked youtube videos and tourney tier lists.

I really wish someone would make an infographic of this autist's posts so that people would stop responding to him.

[Anonymous No.3635267]

Who's the most autistic /vr/ resident: VFaggot, Ogg Guy, Autismo or Australia-kun?

[Anonymous No.3635269]

>>3635267
What if they're all the same person

[Anonymous No.3635279]

>>3635230
I still want to know if the poster or the image maker is supposed to be the autist.

[Anonymous No.3635409]

>>3635279
what's worse a pile of shit or someone who smears the shit on their face?

[Anonymous No.3635427]

I don't get why that guy generalizes 2D and 3D fighters. What makes 2D more complicated and strategic?

[Anonymous No.3635436]

>>3635427
>I don't get why that guy generalizes 2D and 3D fighters.

Because he doesn't understand them

[Anonymous No.3635636]

>>3635257
>Anyone who disagrees with me is the same person.

Ironic giving how hard you are samefagging.

[Anonymous No.3635657]

>>3635636
Proofs?

[Anonymous No.3635704]

>>3635427
>What makes 2D more complicated and strategic?
see >>3633136 you have already been told

[Anonymous No.3635712]

>>3635704
But that anon was comparing Tekken with SF, not VF with SF.

[Anonymous No.3635929]

>>3635712
VF is just Tekken for babies

[Anonymous No.3636045]

>>3635657
You think it's not obvious when you post?

[Anonymous No.3636081]

>>3630237
it sucks that stupid people keep talking up how DEEP AND TECHNICAL virtua fighter is, when it's actually easier to pick up and understand than tekken. thats the whole fucking appeal of it: easy to play, hard to master.

[Anonymous No.3636094]

virtua fighter was the last big fighting game designed by people who actually knew when to show restraint

[Anonymous No.3636103]

>>3636081
tekken isn't hard to understand, especially when roughly 75% of each characters move list is completely irrelevant and all you need to know are some basic fundamentals, and after that pretty much every character has the same game plan.

this thread proves that people actually and unironically believe that tekken is deep or complex, no doubt because they have never played it before, and simply heard people who do play it talking about it, but they just don't understand the discussion so they mistake it for something it isn't

[Anonymous No.3636117]

>>3636081
>thats the whole fucking appeal of it: easy to play, hard to master.

That's any decent fighter, not just VF or Tekken.

[Anonymous No.3636368]

>>3630237
Virtua fighter, but tekken is way more fun and it's not close

[Anonymous No.3636383]

>>3636103
>this thread proves that people actually and unironically believe that tekken is deep or complex, no doubt because they have never played it before, and simply heard people who do play it talking about it, but they just don't understand the discussion so they mistake it for something it isn't

quoted for da muthafucking truth

people here all ignore how namco always aimed for a compromisebetween hardcore sim and no frills arcade fun while leaning more towards an easy to up and play game, and tekken is no different

[Anonymous No.3636385]

>>3635929

underrated shitpost, have a (you)

[Anonymous No.3636393]

Trying to learn to play VF was one of the most humbling experience in my life.

[Anonymous No.3636395]

>>3636094
>virtua fighter was the last big fighting game designed by people who had no imagination or drive

Fixed that for you

[Anonymous No.3636402]

>>3636395

>Yu Suzuki and AM2
>no imagination or drive

[Anonymous No.3636404]

>>3636393
Do you have downs?

[Anonymous No.3636551]

t. played tekken 2/3 as well as vf4/evo

tekken 3 was the most popular fighting game at the time, pretty easy to get into, friends found it fun, was fairly simple

Vf4 was fucking unforgiving, each character was like a different fighting game altogether, game was extremely deep.

I think my favorite game of all in either series was vf4 evo though. Very deep but it had by far the best tutorial/training mode of any fighting game I've played to date. I think at highest levels the AI was a tad easier than 4 but it felt really accomplishing to get good enough and run through the story arcade mode

Unfortunately I've yet to play vs any real people at it because no one plays the game. The one thing that helped me learn the most is how evo has actual top level pro players at their character play vs each other in replays that are already on the game. It's one thing to grind training mode but it's a whole new way to learn when you see two good players at their mains go at it. And back then, that was unheard of

[Anonymous No.3636858]

>>3636551
>Comparing VF4 and EVO to fucking Tekken 2 and 3
Really faggot, really, now compare that shit to Tekken 5 and T5DR, you stupid fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.3636959]

>>3636858
I mean if anything I should compare vf4 to t4 since they were released same year but I never played more than a couple of hours cumulative for tekken 4 so it wouldn't be a fair review

[Anonymous No.3636996]

>>3636959
>t4
N-no T3 is fine

[Anonymous No.3638763]

So in conclusion, VF takes more skill to play than SF, which is just memorizing combos and praying you get a lucky opening where you can use said combos, so that to win you have to turtle like a faggot.

[Anonymous No.3638781]

>>3631689
*facepalm*