/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.3628462]

Game comes out, and I'm too young to play or understand anything. Brother plays the shit out of it and I watch. Don't understand anything.

15 years old, try to play it. Can't beat the first boss, give up.

22, finally buckle down and play through the entire game on christmas break. Loved it, truly a fantastic game and wish I played it when it came out.

[Anonymous No.3628464]

How do you fail the first boss?

[Anonymous No.3628480]

>>3628464
probably hit while the tail was up

[Anonymous No.3628491]

>>3628462
Literally me, except the part where you pick it up again and like it.

[Anonymous No.3628594]

>>3628464
Never played a final fantasy before or any rpg. Looking back I have no clue why I sucked so badly.

[Anonymous No.3629223]

>>3628462
>Be 11 year old me
>"Attack while it's tail's up!"
>"It's gonna counterattack with its laser."
>Oh, okay
>Game Over

Thanks, Barret.

Somehow I still managed to beat it in the 7th+ try.

[Anonymous No.3629248]

>>3629223
>>3628491
Wow, you all suck at video games.
I played this around 2000 when I was 12 and didn't lose once until the omega weapons, I got pretty much everything without a guide as welll.

Wtf is wrong with you people; Final Fantasy games aren't that hard.....

[Anonymous No.3629252]

When it came out I was 20 and working at Babbage's in process of moving into my own place and cheating on fat high school girlfriend with hot slutty early 20s girlfriend.

[Anonymous No.3629267]

>>3629248
You sound pretty hardcore

[Anonymous No.3629271]

>>3629267
This game is easy
>fight monsters
>level up materia
>get enemy skills
>do the tower thing
>fuck around in the battle square


Easy as fucking pie
Also I tend to explore alot and consequently get over leveled in rpgs.

[Anonymous No.3629280]

>>3629248
Watch out we got a real badass over here

[Anonymous No.3629319]

>>3629248
Whoa, badass alert. Here's your free internet gamer-cred drink, sir. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Anonymous No.3629321]

>>3629248
>until the omega weapons
Omega Weapon wasn't a thing until FF8

>Captcha is paseo police
Oh shit.

[Anonymous No.3629329]

>>3629248
>and didn't lose once until the omega weapons
I don't remember fighting Omega Weapon in FFVII.

But I do remember fighting the Qubeley, Neue Ziel and hungry skeleton Acguy, FFVII wasn't a good gundam game I'm afraid.

[Anonymous No.3629357]

>>3629321
>>3629329

>omega weapons

As in the combined set of the "Weapons" which includes Ruby, Omega (the one that you don't fight), Diamond, Emerald. It's like you guys really can't read.

[Anonymous No.3629371]

>>3629357
> (the one that you don't fight)
Sapphire. You know, the gemstone?

[Anonymous No.3629423]

>>3629357
>Omega (the one that you don't fight)
There is no Omega Weapon in FFVII, so you might be the one who can't really read.

Moreover, creating an arbitrary, and arguably wrong portmanteau term for a group of distinct entities and then complaining that normal people can't figure out what you mean due to your sheer autism is pretty damn tragic.

[Anonymous No.3629441]

>>3629248
In regards to my post >>3628491
Capability doesn't necessarily equate to interest, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.3629556]

I've loved this game for years, and I still can't ever play without Tifa in my team. It just feels right to keep her with Cloud.

I've swapped out the other on occasion, but gotta keep the twosome together.

[Anonymous No.3631347]

I had a similar experience...

What a game!

Loved viii and ix too, but this was the first final fantasy i completed, at a similar age to you.

[Anonymous No.3632685]

>>3628464
Attack whilst its tail's up!
*fucking line break*
It's gonna counterattack with its laser.

[Anonymous No.3634508]

I didn't have the patience for random turn-based battles my first time through so I often ran. Then I wondered why all the bosses were so tough. Good times.

[Anonymous No.3634526]

I wanted to liked it because it looked so cool, but I never really got that far in the game, I think I always dropped it somewhere after leaving Midgar. Eventually I beat it but I had played tons of other good RPGs and I thought VII was a decent 7.5/10 at best.
The loading times killed it for me, random battles with loading times was not a good idea at all for RPGs.

[Anonymous No.3634541]

Man, I really dislike FF7.

The only FF it's not worse than is 10

Play a better JRPG

[Anonymous No.3634551]

>>3634541
>Implying Final Fantasy VII didn't changed everything
IT CHANGED EVERYTHING

You probably don't like FFI either

[Anonymous No.3634554]

>>3634551
>change everything
Like what?

[Anonymous No.3634576]

>>3634554
It made terrorism and killing women acceptable

[Anonymous No.3634579]

For all the flack "random battles" get, their principle frustration, I believe, rather has to do with the frequency with which they occur than the fact itself that they do so randomly.

[Anonymous No.3634637]

>>3634579
wild arms 2 and shadow madness had the right idea, you could avoid random battles by pressing a button
pity more games didn't copy that idea

[Anonymous No.3634645]

>>3634637
Why on Earth would you want to do that? Literally if random battles aren't the entire reason you're playing the game, you are not a real man.

[Anonymous No.3634648]

>>3634645
There's a point where they become time-wasters than anything else.

>>3634637
LOD did it better; there's an item that resets the steps to next encounter. Cthulhu Saves the World did it best; there's a limited number of fights in each area and you can force them whenever you want.

[Anonymous No.3634654]

>>3634645
becuase sometimes I want to go from point A to point B with no interruptions
if it bothers you there's always the option of not pressing the button
>>3634648
>there's an item that resets the steps to next encounter
too bad you can only carry 32 consumable items, and I'm not wasting that limited space on charm potions

[Anonymous No.3634667]

>>3634654
It's not about the destination, man. It's the journey that matters.

[Anonymous No.3635970]

>>3634541
>The only FF it's not worse than is 10

And 8. And 13.

[Anonymous No.3635991]

>>3634541

And 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 13, and 4.0.

[Anonymous No.3636006]

>>3635991
4 and 6 were great you underage faggot

Should have mentioned 12 though, I literally fell asleep within 4 hours of "playing" that "game". And 5 was pretty bland overall.

[Anonymous No.3636013]

>>3636006

4 is easily one of the weakest games in the series and only nostalgia addled manchildren would argue otherwise. It's more restrictive on gameplay than Final Fantasy XIII but doesn't bring anything interesting to the table. The story is absolute garbage and every good aspect(some character arcs) is finished too quickly. Even the music is mediocre.

[Anonymous No.3636141]

>>3628462
I just started playing it with 24 and it's every bit as amazing as people have said, AND MORE.

That shit rarely happens to me. Usually I have high expectations for a classic that lead to me being merely satisfied with it, but this game is 11/10.

Somehow the anime style characters, the melodrama, the turn-based combat works even though those are typically things I dislike. Maybe the setting adds more weight to it, the many locations to visit, the different mini-games that you get thrown in, it just seems like a true labour of live.

[Anonymous No.3636149]

>>3628480
>>3632685
This deso

[Anonymous No.3636151]

>>3629357
So you decided to call "Omega Weapon" to that group of bosses and then bitch when people...fuck it you're clearly retarded.

[Anonymous No.3636162]

>>3628462
Here OP. Have this edit I did of the Final Fantasy VII image. The black bars make it more eye-caching while scrolling the threads,

[Anonymous No.3636190]

>>3636013
>doesn't bring anything interesting to the table
literally created ATB
>Even the music is mediocre.
kys pleb shitter

[Anonymous No.3636203]

Final Fantasy is already a game series that should have been a series of movies, but VII made it 500 times worse and brought a horribly confused, weak story to the table amplified by boring, one dimensional characters, clashing graphic styles, poor pacing, stupid minigames, and other bullshit that makes it absolutely the weakest FF game ever.

The nostalgia glasses of the fucking Playstation/N64 generation must be so thick that they stick out a half meter from the fucking eye.

[Anonymous No.3636236]

>>3636203
You must be either a jaded bastard or one insufferable little shit.

When I played FF7 for the first time at age 13 I genuinely believed its story was great - and that's an understatement. It was, for me - and probably lots of other people, of many different ages - at the time, the greatest story ever rendered in vidya form.

That doesn't mean it "objectively" is that great. Now that I'm older - and anyone else can do this too - I can see, and am perfectly willing to admit that it does have its flaws - like every story, of course.

I'm not arguing its story is good because of nostalgia... I just mean to point out that it was, rightfully, very well received at the time; therefore, to shit all over that storyline 20 years later with no regard for that fact is to do a disservice not only to the story itself but also the historical record. Basically, I just think you ought to at least recognize the overall game's unprecedented achievements in that regard, for what it's worth. As I'm willing to admit the story isn't that great in hindsight, so too should you accept that, however imperfect FF7's story may be, it is not completely without merit.

TL;DR: pay respect where it is due.

[Anonymous No.3636248]

>>3636236
I'm 23 and I played FF7 for the first time last year, and I think the story is brilliant. At least until you left Midgar, then it becomes a wild goose chase after Sephiroth for the rest of the game. Still, I found it FAR easier to follow than later games in the series (barring IX). Plus the characters may not have been terribly deep (though I'd argue Cloud is) but they were still entertaining.

[Anonymous No.3636251]

>>3636236
7 was a great balance of story and gameplay. My two bests in each category are:

Story - VI

This had the best characters, the best storyline, the best plot progression and did very fucking well at balancing everyone's role in the story. Kefka himself is a Hell of a villain, and the best part is that he grows with the characters too.

Gameplay - XII/X

This one's a toss up - mainly because there was just much to do between the both of them. There were craploads of minigames, Superbosses and battle systems. The plot for XII falters a little, even if it does have the best characters. XII's endgame is a little weak, but it makes up for what it can't take from X in sheer friggin' size and treasure hunts.

[Anonymous No.3636253]

>>3636248
I will never forgive Advent Children for turning Cloud into a mope. What the actual fuck, man? This was a cocky, money-hungry, confused, socially-awkward-but-overall-serviceable character and he turns into fucking Gackt in 2005? Unbelievable.

[Anonymous No.3636280]

>>3636253
Worth a thousand words.

[Anonymous No.3636610]

in summary, Cloud's whole story is a mess, Tifa deserves better, Aeris is a turboslut, Barret had the best character arc, why does Red XIII exist, Cait Sith is a nigger, Cid saved the second half of disc 1 with his introduction, no one cares about Yuffie and Vincent was a mistake

Story:
everything up to escaping Midgar - 10/10
Calm Town to Gold Saucer - 6/10
Rest of Disc 1 - 4/10
Entirety of Disc 2 until Attack on Midgar - 2/10
Rest of Disc 2 - 7/10
Disc 3 - 6/10, was generous since Xenogears disc2 was garbage

Gameplay: good, extremely deep materia system, allowed for all sorts of customization. Downfall was mostly easy battles outside of a random few difficulty spikes (Demon Gate, Great Glacier)

Music: extremely good, disc 1 over world theme is fucking great. Lots of memorable tunes

Misc:
Lots of different mini games, and unlike most games I play, I generally enjoyed almost all of them. A couple cool areas/fights for high powered parties in disc 3. Hidden limit breaks/ultimate weapons that were hidden but not completely obscure.

>>3636280
Cloud back then had the autism stare going on, very fitting

[Anonymous No.3636987]

>>3636610
>Tifa deserves better,

Why? She's a manipulative cunt who lied to Cloud for her own selfish reasons.

[Anonymous No.3637234]

>>3636013

>even the music is mediocre

Oh I see, you're one of them "faggots". I hear about.

[Anonymous No.3638025]

>>3637234

It's okay anon, you're allowed to like mediocre things. I like IV as well, but I realize how weak it is.

[Anonymous No.3638026]

>Play the New Threat PC mod
>Cloud's flashback
>Cloud is Lv30 in the flashback despite being Lv10-12 at Nibelheim
Subtle. If the remake has any sense they'll do a similar thing to foreshadow his bald-faced lies.